User talk:Poyt448

Red triangle slugs
Thanks for the great image Peter! Snek and I will enjoy making an article about them, they are a really cool amazing-looking species. I will let you know once we have the article put together. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 13:32, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi again Peter, Nice to hear from you. I hope you settle in well at Wikipedia. I have only been editing here for a year and a half, so there are plenty of things I don't know... but if there is anything I can help you with I will be glad to, so just ask me any time. I see you have 4 websites! Like you I am self-taught and don't have any degrees. I have been interested in mollusks since I was a toddler, so over the years I have learned a lot about them. You are lucky to have such interesting creatures around as the triangle slugs! Invertzoo (talk) 22:18, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Your question about Sour Cherry
Let me have a go at sorting that out today (or tomorrow). We could do a Disambiguation page giving the options, but as there are currently only two options, perhaps the Prunus Sour Cherry simply needs a note at the top directing people on to the other sour cherry article. I should be able to do that OK. Invertzoo (talk) 14:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Land snail shells in New South Wales, leeches etc
Hi, I also wanted to say that at WikiProject Gastropods we are certainly happy to accept photos of empty shells in order to represent a species or genus or family of snails that currently have no images at all. Those images will definitely be good to have until we are lucky enough to get a picture of a live specimen. I imagine we currently have hardly any images of Australian land slug or land snail species at all, so if you have photos of dead shells that are even half reasonable, please go ahead and upload them. Thanks so much! Images of leeches and other invertebrates will no doubt be very valuable to Wikipedia also, although I have only written a few articles on other invertebrate groups. Very best wishes to you Invertzoo (talk) 14:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

DYK on red triangle slug
Hi, Me again. I thought you would like to know that right now your pic of the slugs is on the Wikipedia Mainpage as part of a Did You Know? hook, actually the lead hook! (You will find it on the lower left of the mainpage.) Thanks and congratulations! Invertzoo (talk) 12:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Peter, You are very welcome. Actually I meant to write you in as one of the authors, but I forgot, so next time we will do that. I was thrilled to get your very nice image of the red triangle slug in the first place, because it meant that we could write the article and it would look good. They are a really amazing slug. if you see any white ones or the other interesting colors we could put an image of those on there too.

And, I believe that the "worm" thing with the yellow stripe that you saw in your garden is a terrestrial planarian, a turbellarian also known as a flatworm. Most of them are aquatic (marine or freshwater) but there are terrestrial ones in tropical Asia. The one you saw sounds like the introduced species Bipalium kewense. Someone from Sydney sent an image of that planarian to the site "What's That Bug" last year. And if you google Bipalium kewense and look at Google images you will get lots and lots of good images of the various different colored versions. Is that what you saw? Did you take a photo? If not, then next time. I could write an article for that. Best, Susan Invertzoo (talk) 14:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Guide to permission
Hello, that are great images of red triangle slug!

If you are not an author then an author have to send this email to (or you have to resend an emaile from the autor to).

permissions-commons@wikimedia.org

I am the author and the creator and sole owner of the exclusive copyright of images at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triboniophorus_graeffei_-_Dungog1.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triboniophorus_graeffei_-_Dungog2.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triboniophorus_graeffei_-_Dungog3.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triboniophorus_graeffei_-_Dungog4.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triboniophorus_graeffei_-_Dungog5.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triboniophorus_graeffei_-_Dungog6.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Triboniophorus_graeffei_-_Dungog7.jpg I agree to publish that work under the free license LICENSE.

Instead of the word LICENSE the author will choose:
 * GFDL, GNU Free Documentation License v1.1, 1.2, 1.3 - Attribution, ShareAlike, FullText,
 * CC-BY, Creative Commons Attribution v1.0, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0 - Attribution,
 * CC-BY-SA, Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike v1.0, 2.0, 2.5, 3.0] - Attribution, ShareAlike,
 * public domain,
 * FAL, Free Art License v1.2, 1.3 - Attribution, ShareAlike, FullText.

Then they will answer you. Then I will be glad to help you move these images to commons.

For more infomatation see: --Snek01 (talk) 19:14, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Donating_copyrighted_materials
 * http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Email_templates
 * OTRS

I uploaded all 7 images to Commons. Feel free to upload such great images to Commons directly next time. Thank your for cooperation and I am looking for other great images of gastropods next time. Have a nice day. --Snek01 (talk) 22:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with File:Robber Fly Dungog Australia.jpg
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I have sent off a request email to Ros Runciman (photographer) and am waiting for her reply Poyt448 (talk) 03:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

To Peter, please don't give up
Hi Peter,

Yes, thanks for asking, I am indeed going to Nevis in just a day and a half. And yes it is a very attractive and interesting place, with lots of cool archaeology.

I'm very sorry however to hear you are feeling discouraged here on Wp. It's not easy when you first come to Wikipedia to get used to the hang of things. I feel badly, and I should apologize, because although I welcomed you, I did not give you links to all the necessary pages that you need to read to really get the hang of things here at Wikipedia, so think it is partly my fault that you are disappointed.

I don't know exactly what got changed in your articles, because I haven't looked at them yet, but one of the main things to bear in mind about Wp is that more or less everything you write needs to be backed up with a published source. Because of this, you can't just write from your own experience, even if everything you write is completely true, because that counts as "original research".

If on the other hand you did give references or citations for what you wrote, and nonetheless someone deleted it, then you can legitimately put it back again. But it is a good idea first to look at the edit history,and if the edit history is not helpful, to politely ask the person who deleted a section of your stuff, what they thought the problem was with it. They should be able to explain, especially when you let them know that you are a new user. You may even want to look at WP:ADOPT where you can sign up to get an experienced editor to agree to mentor you, in other words answer all your questions and explain things to you as needed.

If I wasn't packing to go away I would offer to help you understand what was going on...

I will say this: because it takes quite a long while to get familiar with Wp and how things work around here, it is sometimes good to do a lot of small edits first on other articles for a few months before launching into multiple new articles. Also it is necessary here on Wp to learn to develop rather a thick skin, and to try not to take things personally when stuff gets altered. Your photos may disappear from one article but they are still on Commons and will get used one way or another before too long.

If you stick around for a while longer you may come to understand better what is happening, and when I come back from my trip, if there is stuff I can do to help you, I will gladly try to explain things to you.

All good wishes to you. One small thing, you sign your name simply by typing 4 of these things "~". That piece of code will automatically put your screen name as a live link, and the time and date too.

All the very best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 21:57, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I am back
I don't know if I can really be of much help to you, but I am back from my trip now and willing to try. Invertzoo (talk) 21:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

About the new article on Citronella moorei
Hi Peter. It looks very good. Thanks for pointing it out to me. Just one thing I have to say, and I can't tell if this is applies here, so please do forgive me if it isn't the case at all, but perhaps you don't yet realize that (with some exceptions) technical descriptions of a species cannot be copied from a source (whether it's a book or on-line) and put into a Wikipedia article, the info almost always needs to be re-written in your own words. If info is used "as is", copied from a source, the info has to be in quote marks and given proper attribution. And if used as a quote there has to be a good reason why the original wording needs to be used. There are legal copyright considerations and that is why these rules apply. As I said, forgive me if that is not the case here. Let me tell you about Nevis tomorrow when I am less tired. Best, Susan Invertzoo (talk) 00:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

I think what I found the most pleasing about this visit to Nevis was how very nice the local people are. We have a lot of friends there now. The shells always please me too. In one area there were still some that had been thrown up by the edge of Hurricane Omar in mid-October 2008. Invertzoo (talk) 20:58, 12 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm so glad you enjoyed a good trip to Nevis. It sounds like a wonderful place. Thanks for reminding me about the descriptions. You are quite right. I've re-written several articles and will go through all of them to make sure I'm putting them in my own words. For some reason I started out writing them in my own words and then forgot for the last few articles. I've been in recent e-mail contact with the author, and that seems to have thrown me off the right path. Sorry, I feel very embarrassed. However, I will fix them all up in the next few days. Pete Poyt448 (talk) 02:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

OK Peter, I'm glad you weren't offended by my question. Sometimes in articles about mollusks we do quote the original type description of a species, because that can be useful just as it is, but we put it in quote marks and give the citation for it. Don't be embarrassed, it's a mistake that many of us make at first, and to be fair it can be really often quite hard to completely re-write formal descriptions in your own words from scratch. I tell people if it is too hard to rewrite it from scratch then just leave out the description and let someone else do it later, that's the advantage of a wiki. (I am watching that kind of thing quite closely now because we had one editor who did a lot of mollusk articles as well as other stuff, and over the past 3 years he was putting chunks of text from other people's writing into literally thousands of articles from several sources, including a book that is hard to get hold of here in the States, so it took me a long time to be certain he was copying stuff. Then we had to deal with cleaning up the consequences of that.) Anyway, I'd better try to get in gear with my "real life" now I am back in NYC rather than in lovely laid-back Nevis. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 14:23, 13 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for your encouragement. All the previous articles have been re-written when necessary. But I'll check them again. Today I've written another article on a New South Wales rainforest tree (all my own words of course) Ailanthus triphysa.


 * Earlier today I was most fortunate to photograph an extremely rare plant Pherosphaera fitzgeraldii, and I added it to the current Wiki article. The article had some pretty ordinary prose, and an out of date scientific name too. So I cleaned all that up. For the past 15 years I've been photographing rainforest plants, and many end up on Wiki. It's very nice that you should be so kind. Thanks PETE Poyt448 (talk) 10:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I read your new additions, how nice for you to find such a rare plant and photograph it. Nice for Wikipedia to have the image too! When I started on Wikipedia it so happened that no-one welcomed me for quite a long time and therefore I know how nice it is to have some encouragement. By the way, and about time, here is an official welcome. Invertzoo (talk) 22:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Blue planarian
Dear Susan,

I've photographed an invertebrate entering the house where I live. And put the photo on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terricola

It's a worm, not a mollusc. Please let me know if you or any of your invertebrate colleages would be interested in writing an article on this flatworm.

The Blue Planarian (Caenoplana coerulea) came knocking on the door, wishing to get inside. That's one invitation you can't refuse.

kind wishes, PETE Poyt448 (talk) 01:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Pete, Well... they sure are amazing creatures. I find it extraordinary that very simple creatures like flatworms can get so large, exhibit predatory behavior etc. I suppose a lot of people think they are slugs, and some of the more colorful large marine ones are often mistaken for nudibranchs. Let me think a bit. I don't know much about them, but I probably could throw together a basic stub article. Probably you could too. A stub does not have to be elaborate or complete: other people would add to it I'm sure. We create a lot of stub mollusk articles over at Project Gastropods. Since you have a nice image of the species that's a very big help in a stub. If you wanted to draft a stub on a subpage of your talk page I could help you with it maybe? (I don't really know who likes flatworms on WIkipedia, although you could look and see who does a lot of editing on the flatworm articles we do have.) Best to you as always, Invertzoo (talk) 20:13, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Images, categories and links
Please excuse me if you already worked this out, but I wanted to say that in my experience often the best way on WIkipedia to find out how to do something, is not by reading a page that purports to tell you how to do it, many of which are too hard to understand, but by looking for actual examples where editors did that thing, and then looking at the code (the edit page) and then seeing what that person did to make say a category or whatever, and then doing the same thing. It's usually a good beginning anyway. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 21:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again Pete, I am sorry, I actually posted the above note to you by mistake, it was User:Seascapeza who was asking me about how to do categories and links for images! I got confused... But in any case the basic idea is good advice I guess. Best wishes Invertzoo (talk) 01:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Blue Planarian
The article looks fine, don't you think? Great, well done. Invertzoo (talk) 01:25, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Submitting a DYK
Hi PETE,

Yeah, these things are really hard to get the hang of at first, plus they recently changed the template they are using for submitting a DYK. In this one case, copying another person's submission is not really the best way to do this. Actually the new template is a real improvement on the old one they had previously, and it is not hard to use once you get used to it.

1. Go to this page. You need to use the new template that is shown where it says "Usage" on that page. The "Usage guidelines" underneath the template explain exactly how to fill it in.

2. I would say the easiest way for you to do this is to open an extra window in your web browser. Have that template page open in one window, and in the other window open the DYK hook page at

3. Scroll down to "Candidate entries", and where it says "Articles created/expanded on May 31", click on edit. When you are on that edit page (or code page as I call it), paste in there one copy of the template as it is shown on the first page I mentioned, the new DYK Template page.

4. Then fill in all of the relevant parts on your copied template, using the "Usage guidelines" on the first page to see exactly how to do it. Once you have it filled in, you are done. Just hit "Show preview" and if it looks good with image and all, then just press "save page" and you are all set.

You may in fact want to have 3 windows open in your browser, with my instructions in one of the windows. Do you routinely use extra windows? extra webpages? You just go up to the File item in your menu bar in your web browser and select "New window".

If anything I have said is not clear when you try to do this, please ask me again.

Oh, and do bookmark the DYK page so that you can go and check often and see if anyone has questions about your hook or comments or whatever, anything they think needs fixing.

Best, Invertzoo (talk) 14:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi again. Yes, I do agree that unfortunately almost all the Wikipedia instruction pages are virtually incomprehensible, especially to a beginner, even a really bright beginner, probably for the reason you suggest. I found it to be a big pain, and still do. I sort of doubt that the community would allow me to completely rewrite the ones I do understand though, but I guess you never know.

As for your DYK image problem, I quickly tried looking for your hook submission just now and could not see it. Did you put it up on the DYK page already, or do you have it on a subpage of your user page? If it's on the DYK page, which day is it under? In any case I reckon your most likely error is to have written the image in as "File:Zanthoxylum brachyacanthum Tooloom NP April 1998.jpg" rather than simply as "Zanthoxylum brachyacanthum Tooloom NP April 1998.jpg". Or maybe vice versa...

Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 12:48, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes I believe it should be "File:Zanthoxylum brachyacanthum Tooloom NP April 1998.jpg". Invertzoo (talk) 00:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Save your Thorny Yellowwood DYK!
If you can find one more reference, on-line, or in a book or whatever, please put it in the article, and then you will be all set! As the person commented on your submissions says, two or three refs are great, one ref is not enough for a DYK. Once you have added another ref or two, write a little note on the DYK page explaining that you have done that, and then once the person checks out the new ref or refs, you should be fine with it. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 20:02, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Here is what the person wrote on the DYK page:


 * Symbol possible vote.svg A single reference doesn't cut it, unfortunately. Two or three reliable sources would be great!  —  Jake   Wartenberg  18:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi there! I see you have added a few more sources, so all we have to do now is add inline citations to the article. There is an example of how to do this here. I realize that the technical side of this can be quite intimidating at first, but keep at it. It gets quite a bit easier once you get the hang of it. Thanks for your submission! — Jake   Wartenberg  12:48, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK Problem
Hello! there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath and respond there as soon as possible. — Jake   Wartenberg  18:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK
Hi Pete, The problem you asked me about is now fixed, because "Smackbot" (a piece of robotic software) put the ref notation in for you. Actually all that was missing was the little bit of code right after the References title, that's all.

If you now create a few more in-line citations you will be all set. You need to make the main book reference (Floyd) into several inline citations too. I think it is OK to do that very simply, by adding:

(Floyd, 1989, p. 202)

or whatever page the info was on, right after where you mention the piece of info.

Do that once for the info in the Intro section anyway, and elsewhere where appropriate.

I know this is not easy to have to learn all this under time constraints of submitting a DYK, but it is worth the struggle to learn how to do this. Doing a DYK so early on in your career at Wikipedia is quite a challenge!

Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 12:28, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

When you get a chance, and if you have not already done so, you can look at and the rather overwhelming page,

Best, Invertzoo (talk) 12:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Another question on your DYK submission
As you may already have noticed, there was another comment on your refs on the DYK page:

"The online reference, ref 2, only mentions the plant as part of a long list. Simply put, the reference doesn't say what the article says it says. (Also, there's no rush with the DYK nominations...it's unlikely to be failed with less than 3 days of inactivity.) Shubinator (talk) 00:13, 4 June 2009 (UTC)"

It seems that the tree is mentioned on the list because it is a food plant for the caterpillars of the Orchard Butterfly (Papilio aegeus aegeus), and of Papilio ambrax and Papilio fuscus capaneus. In fact you could put that sentence in the article and use the ref to support it if you wanted to.

best, Invertzoo (talk) 01:00, 4 June 2009 (UTC)


 * You have now added the cite for the thorny trunk, which is great. From my point of view, the one thing missing is a cite to say that it is part of the citrus family. See my note at the Template Talk page. It may be self evident to a taxonomist - I'm not sure - but I couldn't actually find something that says this. Does Floyd? Cheers. hamiltonstone (talk) 07:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the addit. ref - sorry if i am seeming obtuse, but my issue is: how do I know that Rutaceae is the same thing as citrus? For example, several of the refs, including the one you supply, tell us it is Rutaceae, but don't use the word "citrus". To underline the point, when you go to the Wikipedia article on citrus, it begins by saying citrus is a genus within the Rutaceae, suggesting they are not the same thing. You could drop the word citrus from your DYK hook proposal, and that may solve the problem. Cheers. hamiltonstone (talk) 07:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance. I'm removed the citrus reference in the opening part of the article and hook. Rutaceae is known by botanists as the Rue or Citrus family. It contains many genuses, including the genus Citrus and the genus Zanthoxylum. cheers, Peter Poyt448 (talk) 07:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Your service badge, sir!
I have just now "awarded" you a service badge, which you are entitled to. I placed it near the top of this page. If you want to, you can move it anywhere else you want, for example onto your user page. The code for it looks like this:. If you like the service awards, you can see the whole range of them here:

And if you want to, you can update yours as the months and years and number of edits go by! All good wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 20:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Citrus and the perils of WP
Your first DYK should end up on the main page sometime this week, which is great. Do keep on contributing to WP, you'll get the hang of things, especially referencing, as you go along (as you already are). You left a note about citrus being referred to at the Rutaceae page, viz: "Rutaceae, commonly known as the rue or citrus family..."

I thought I would come back to you on this just to highlight Wikipedia's ... erratic ... reliability. If you read the Rutaceae article carefully, you will see two things: 1. There is no citation in the article for the claim that the Rutaceae is commonly known as the citrus family. This is probably related to: 2. the point made twice in the same article that the citrus genus is the most important branch of the family. So, maybe some people call the Rutaceae the citrus family, but WP's own article provides claims to suggest this is simply wrong. And we know that the Thorny Yellowwood is not of the citrus genus.

So there you have it - another Wikipedia article is either wrong or misleading. Dont' worry - one gets used to that! Of course, if it is true that the Rutaceae are "commonly known as" citrus (even though that is only one genus within the family), then it is OK for the article to say that - provided that there is a reliable source that says so.

Notwithstanding all that, welcome to WP and thank you for contributing. From a fellow lover of the NSW rainforests (of which I used to see a good deal more when I lived in Armidale and Brisbane). Best wishes. hamiltonstone (talk) 01:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Dear Hamiltonstone, thanks so much for your support. It's great to hear from someone who also loves the Australian rainforests. Kind regards. Poyt448 (talk) 03:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome!
Hi again Pete, You are very welcome to all the help I can give you. As for the "medal", it is only a service badge, but it is pretty, and you are certainly entitled to it.

By the way, here is a reference from a botanical garden that you could maybe use to confirm in the Thorny Yellowwood article and in the Rutaceae article that Rutaceae is indeed referred to as the "citrus family". 

When I need to find a ref for something like that I just google it. This time I put "citrus family Rutaceae" into the google search slot. Here is another ref, in case you prefer this one, this time it's from a Palomar college website in California. 

You can go ahead and put one of those refs in both article if you want to. The article is not "frozen" as its DYK hook waits to go up on the main page, the article can be improved now or later on of course. Only the DYK hook is set and cannot be changed.

By the way, a very small thing, when you reply to someone's message right below it, you can "indent" your message a bit by putting a colon : right at the very beginning of your message or of each paragraph you write in the message. The little indent makes it easier to see who is speaking. I put one in on your message to Hamilton above so you can see how it works. Two colons will indent even further, three even more, and so on.

You are fortunate to have access to such lovely places. I live right in the heart of NYC. My nearest "nature" is Central Park. We don't have a car, but go places by bus or train instead.

All good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 12:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Well done!
Your DYK is on the Mainpage right now. I hope you see it. I say that because they change the DYKs every six hours, so if you are asleep or out somewhere, you might miss seeing it. It looks great: it is the lead DYK with its picture and all. 

We don't usually give out this for someone's first DYK, but I figure you deserve it for succeeding with this tricky task when you are still a new editor. So, here it is:

Reply
Hi Pete, I apologize that it took me a few days to answer your message. I can certainly understand your being disappointed with the response you got from A.G. Floyd. I can also understand his not liking to identify species from images, I know myself it is often very hard to ID shells from images. And in general, older people are not that comfortable with the electronic media. A malacologist who still comes in to AMNH, Bill Emerson, who is about 82, never made the transition to computers at all, despite being bright and having enough money to afford all that. So he doesn't have email, and gets left out of the loop a lot because people don't use the phone nearly as much as they used to for informational purposes. I am 61 and a lot of people my age never really got to be computer literate, it's a shame. Most people my age, when I mention Wikipedia they still don't really know what it is, whereas young people use it all the time and really appreciate it.

As for your intelligence, intelligence isn't really something you can assess properly with one kind of standard test. Neither is beauty. You seem plenty bright to me. A lot of brilliant people did badly at school (like Einstein and Darwin), school is way too boring for them to pay attention to the lessons.

Most of the books we all use for identification are full of errors and wobbly assumptions, but it's only when you get really deep into a subject that you start to understand that.

Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 12:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Thorny Yellowwood
I added the Citrus family thing to this article, but I was lazy and instead on in-line citations I put just ordinary links to the pages I was using as references. Maybe you will want to change them to real citations? Best, Invertzoo (talk) 14:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Mount Banda Banda
You could submit this article to DYK, as long as you choose the hook carefully. The fact in the DYK hook has to be backed up with a good reference. So you could maybe say:

"Did you know that... Mount Banda Banda in New South Wales is home to many interesting native species, including the Hastings River Mouse?"

Or maybe you can come up with a better one. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 15:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, I got your message and have cleared this DYK, including an alternative hook. Cheers. hamiltonstone (talk) 00:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Elaeocarpus eumundi
I expected this link to be red, cheers for creating that :-) Just out of curiosity, was 'smooth-leaved quandong' given in that source, or in another? cygnis insignis 16:58, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
 * PS You may want to say hello at WT:PLANTS or the fauna wikiprojects. Nice contributions! cygnis insignis 17:12, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for writing to me. Yes, the smooth-leaved quandong is the common name given in both references.

I've written some 96 articles, almost all on rainforest plants of Australia. However, I need some help with my most recent article. Acmena ingens is so described by the Royal Botanic Gardens here in Sydney: http://plantnet.rbgsyd.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/NSWfl.pl?page=nswfl&lvl=sp&name=Acmena~ingens July 9th, 2009

However, other less formal references put it in the Syzygium genus. Could someone please advise whether it is an Acmena or Syzygium?

I believe the rainforest myrtles are not well understood, and there is much debate regarding their taxonomy.

Kind wishes, Poyt448 (talk) 00:54, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarifing that quandong. I added refs to the names, Sorting out the confusion: Phylogenetics of large genera and the lessons from Syzygium (Myrtaceae) gives some general discussion from one of the authors. Ask at WP:plants if you want a proper answer, or add a bit about the new combination Syzygium ingens to the article. If you have any queries, I may be able to point to a solution. Regards, cygnis insignis 05:34, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the references to Acmena ingens. I'm still just as confused as before. I'll leave it in the Acmena genus for now. Later, if anyone would like to swap it over to Syzygium, then that's OK. kind wishes Poyt448 (talk) 01:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Landslide
Thanks for the interesting update! You are doing great with all the stuff here, congratulations on the Mount Banda Banda DYK. Your real life sounds fascinating. As a naturalist stranded in the city I am quite jealous! I am currently prepping for the first Wiki-Conference New York this weekend, I am part of a panel discussion on collaboration and projects, I will talk about WikiProject Gastropods. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 12:51, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your long and interesting note. How well you express yourself! I enjoyed Snek's article about the freshwater clam Velesunio ambiguous. If you would do me a favor and measure how wide your hand is (approximately) I will put that in the caption so people have a better idea of the scale. And I did not know about that interesting centipede in Central Park, although it was folks from the AMNH where I volunteer once a week, who discovered it. Yes, I really want to do a mollusk survey of the Park, but I would like to have someone come along with me in the search, more productive and more fun that way. Your spider reminded me of a trapdoor spider I found in California back in 1970. That is also Mygalomorphae. I kept it for a while as a pet. If you run out of things to write about and are casting around for something to do let me know, there is always lots of work to do at WikiProject Gastropods. I have been interested in mollusks since I was a toddler. I was born a naturalist it seems, and maybe shells were the one thing that my mum did not mind my bringing into the house, unlike rocks or caterpillars or whatever. I also think that empty shells from the beach or wherever were a good thing to collect that did not harm the animal that created them. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 22:10, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and yes the conference went really well, thanks for asking, and my talk went very well indeed I guess. The founder of Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales was there, and he gave me a barnstar on my user page and left a note on my talk page too. A great honor. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 23:28, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

DYK for rainforest plant
Hello! I have noted some issues that need clearing-up before your article, Wilkiea huegeliana, can be featured on DYK. Please see them here: Template talk:Did you know. Thanks! Bob Amnertiopsis ∴ChatMe! 16:09, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry, meant to tell you I nominated it there - cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for nominating the Wilkiea article. I've made adjustments per the DYK request. Please check and scrutinize them for review. I've written dozens of articles on NSW rainforest plants. This Wilkiea is one of the least beautiful, least glamorous and superficially unimpressive of all of them. Glad to know someone likes it. cheers PETE Poyt448 (talk) 08:02, 15 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I just felt a warm inner glow. I planted one in my garden once and it died..... :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:39, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your contribution. It's cleared the DYK approval. This plant is now in fruit. If you visit the main track on Barrenjoey, they may be seen on the right side walking up the rock. It's illegal to grab a fruit or two, which of course you wouldn't do. But they're not difficult to grow from seed. Poyt448 (talk) 23:00, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for editing some of my articles on plants of New South Wales. I do need an editor to clean up the errors on my Wikipedia articles.

I see on your profile that you are a psychiatrist. I've got bad memories of psychiatrists, seeing a few of them in the 1980s.

One of whom was an associate of Harry Bailey. Not only was he a psychiatrist, but Harry Bailey was a rapist and a mass murderer. Another psychiatrist doctor from Northside Clinic was investigated by the medical health tribunal, for his malpractice to me. I received an apology for his disgraceful behaviour.

It seems that mental health workers are often more bad than good. And many have mental health issues of a considerable degree, much worse than the average person. In my experience, their narcissism and vigorous desire for self aggrandizement appears to be a necessary quality to become a mental health worker.

Apparently psychiatrists have a higher than average suicide rate. And from meeting some of these people, the more they kill themselves, the better society will be.

Some doctors do good things, and I hope you are one of them.

Poyt448 (talk) 07:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Talking about the health system is tricky in a public arena such as this, so I feel a bit stuck on a reply, but I am sad to hear of your experiences, and I hope that you have found other and more successful methods of healing/therapy since those times. I try to do good and many of my patients seem to think so (which is nice :))


 * I am happy to help out with any plant articles and am pleased to see you and User:Aareo arrive on the scene here. Barrenjoey is the opposite side of the city to me so I don't get up that way often. Also, aiming for Good articles and Featured articles is a way of preserving one's edits. See Banksia integrifolia and Banksia ericifolia as a couple of local examples :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * PS: Aha! Another plant in my garden that I meant to do a page on one day... :) --> Atractocarpus chartaceus


 * PPS: Tried a DYK for it, not very interesting I know...Template_talk:Did_you_know. Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:32, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

how about "DYK the Narrow-leaved Native Gardenia has edible red fruit and beautifully scented flowers"

This might be more interesting, perhaps a better hook. Please adjust if you wish.

I collected the fruit from Hayters Hill near Byron Bay. And the esteemed botanist A.G.Floyd identified them for me.

regards Poyt448 (talk) 15:52, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Heh, cool. I might have to come by and pick up some seedlings :) I got one from a nursery but I have to say I found the smell sort of faint. I have also grown Gardenia scabrella which had no smell at all, but Atractocarpus fitzalanii I have planeted alot and I like (nice big green leaves...hmmm another redlink....Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)


 * PS: Are you a member of the APS too? Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Update

 * I made this --> Template_talk:Did_you_know into a triple-decker. The new growth on my fitzalanii loks lovely at this time of year. Now if we can expand Atractocarpus, it'd be four...Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi,

I don't know what APS is. Why should I join APS?

A post doctoral research scientist read one of my Wiki articles. It was on my most favourite plant in the world. So, now I have to get fit and try to find this Gondwana relict for his scientific paper. He will provide the necessary legal documentation so I can collect samples. He is comparing chloroplast DNA from these far northern outposts of this southern plant.

The first site I'll try is Mount Imlay. Someone called Broad said this plant occurs here. But I reckon this wrong for a number of reasons. A.G.Floyd didn't find it there. It's too isolated, the sedimentary geology is wrong, the rainfall is too low. It also doesn't occur at the nearby Mount Dromedary.

But you never know. In the field, anything is possible. Finding the Atherosperma at Mount Imlay is not impossible. Nor is it at New England National Park. And I succeeded with spectacular success at the head of the Tia River, west of Port Macquarie.

Finding samples of this plant at the Tia River is easy, as I've done it several times before, and all is documented. However, the 100 minute climb up Mount Imlay, then the descent into the southern rainforest gully is daunting.

Now I need to get fit and ready for such a difficult physical challenge. To search for this southern plant is a great joy. And any result in these beautiful cool temperate rainforests is a success.

Poyt448 (talk) 08:55, 22 August 2009 (UTC)


 * APS = Australian Native Plants Society (Australia). You lost me, which plant are you referring to above? Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance in getting the Atractocarpus article on DYK. Last night I had two DYK, the other was on the Red Mahogany. This indigenous plant is growing in the garden. Not too many DYK subjects are from one's own garden.

In my previous message, I mentioned the Atherosperma, and I'll be off on Wednesday to legally collect samples for the plant scientist and his DNA research. Poyt448 (talk) 06:10, 31 August 2009 (UTC)


 * That sounds wonderful - good luck with it. I am just expanding Doryphora sassafras at the moment and am thinking about what other plants I might plant in my garden to expand next..Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:41, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the work on Doryphora sassafras. All but one of those photos on that article are mine. I found one of those trees this morning on the great dividing range, at 1350 metres above sea level. Plant Net and A.G. Floyd place this plant in the family Monimiaceae. And this was not mentioned in your article. Why not?

My quest this morning was to find the rare Atherosperma at its most northerly limit of distribution. It took a long time in the wilderness this morning. This is a big country, and there's a lot of space between where you are and the goal. However, finding rare plants in situ is what suits me best. The result was another spectacular success. See attached photo taken this morning. regards Poyt448 (talk) 09:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)




 * Congrats on plant hunting, nice photo (I will have to look up where mt grundy is...) - as far as Monimiaceae, 2nd Ed. Floyd just says Atherospermataceae only. Presumably there has been research between 89 and now. Plantnet as been copied from old Flora of NSW, not sure if it has been updated since. PS: Article is not mine so you are welcome to enlarge it (make more room for photos :)) Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Finally, a reply
Sorry it took me so long to reply to your note. You seem to be doing very well on Wikipedia, making new articles and getting more DYKs, well done! Glad you are also doing so well out in nature. It must have been great to run into the flock of cockatoos. Parrots are so very intelligent, and they do very much appreciate someone who takes the time to interact with them in a non-condescending way. Here in NYC I used to talk to the crows sometimes, although now we have very few crows because so many were killed by the West Nile Virus. I don't really speak crow, but I copy what they say and at least they listen to me. I am getting ready to go to Encinitas this coming Friday. I will be away until September 8th. Hopefully I will spend some time in the Pacific Ocean. I lived in San Diego North County, California for over a year back in 1970, when that whole area was quite undeveloped. I lived in La Jolla and Pacific Beach. Now there's way too many people and houses, and not enough nature left really, but still it's nice. Best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 14:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Dear Sue,

I hope you are enjoying your trip to California. At least we are somehow linked, me in the south pacific ocean, and you in the north pacific ocean. And presumably also by our genetic similarity. (My background is all British).

A few years ago I was very keen on a seldom seen rainforest tree of New South Wales. There was a Wikipedia stub of this plant. My most favourite plant on this earth. I added a few photos and more words. Here's the link: Atherosperma

Can you believe what happened?

A Wikipedia article expanded by me was read by a post doctoral research scientist. He says he wants samples of this plant for chloroplast DNA analysis. He wishes to create a northern and southern subspecies of this plant. And he contacted the rangers of the national parks where this plant occurs in northern New South Wales. But they don't know a thing about it!

The professionals couldn't help him. So, he looked up Wiki and sent me a long e-mail. And I can help him. He wants to determine two subspecies of this plant, based on DNA and essential oil analysis between the northern and southern populations. Yes, I know exactly where to find this rare plant, as it was a passion of mine.

He appears to be a scientist, a rationalist. Unlike me, I'm a poet, an emotional force, a tree hugger, a compulsive writer.

So, after he read the Wiki article, he contacted me for samples. Of course, I'm most acquiescent and eager to please. Very happy to drive off to a remote corner of the Australian continent to send him these leaf samples. Any excuse for me to get into these most glorious and fascinating corners of the world.

Fortunately, my records of the location of this plant are satisfactorily documented. So, thanks to Wikipedia I'm soon off to a spectacular part of the Australian Great Dividing Range. And maybe this information could be of use to science.

(When writing this my 2002 ex girlfriend Janine phoned). She wants to see me on Tuesday. So, that's VERY exciting!

bye PETE xxx Poyt448 (talk) 08:42, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Autoreviewer
Hey, you seem to be pretty good at this article writing thing, so I've given you the autoreviewer and rollback rights. Ironholds asked me to. --Closedmouth (talk) 03:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind remarks. It is my great pleasure to write about Australian flora. Poyt448 (talk) 03:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

About the duplication
Do not worry, this is easily fixed. We can ask User:JoJan who is an admin, to delete the other article, which is a tiny stub, and I can correct the title on your nice article to Helicarion porrectus for the time being. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 17:33, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi Peter
Sorry once again that it has taken me so long to get back to you after you left me some messages. I have been very busy IRL (in real life): I am writing three mollusk papers at once and getting lots of info from the Caribbean. This is new info, and quite thrilling to me. When it comes to mollusks I am very easily thrilled I guess.

I hope the way we fixed the Helicarion porrectus article seems OK to you and Michael Shea. Snek seems to think it is acceptable how it is now with that Mysticarion title. It certainly is a very nice article indeed, well done. And how interesting, or in a way unfortunate, that the snail accidentally came home with you like that.

Also very many congratulations on your significant contribution to science in helping the post-doc researcher find the Atherosperma tree for the subspecies study! Yes you are a poet, but you are a wonderful naturalist, which really is a species of scientist. I know because I am a naturalist too.

I hope your meeting with Janine went OK too.

Best, Invertzoo (talk) 21:46, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

No! what happened?
Sorry to see this, what happened? Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:48, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Season's Greetings


Invertzoo (talk) is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Xmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hannukah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding to your friends' talk pages.

I hope you are doing OK, Happy New Year to you, and all good wishes from Invertzoo (talk) 14:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Nice to hear from you, glad to know you are doing well. Your articles are always really excellent and lovely to read. And thanks too for your very kind compliments, which I don't deserve, or if I do then "it takes one to know one"! So all that back at you! best, Invertzoo (talk) 18:47, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Just one very small thing, if you sign your messages with 4 of these "~" it makes it easier for me or anyone else to pop back to your talk page to leave a reply. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 22:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy New Year
Dear Peter,

Our vision for Wikipedia is one of beauty, natural symmetry and light.

I wish you a Happy New Year, everything good for your family, your loved ones and yourself, peace and joy for all the people of the world. I also wish a joyful and peaceful expansion for Wikipedia, may it bring helpful, generous, and peaceful information to everyone in the world. All the very best from Invertzoo (talk) 19:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

I updated your service badge
Best to you once again, Invertzoo (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note
I guess your article on the Illawarra Socketwood may possibly have been mentioned, and linked to, by a popular blog online (or something similar) which caused a lot of people to come and look at it. Anyway that's great. As for the diagnosis, it is really quite likely to be incorrect. The grounds for that diagnosis have been expanded so much over the years that the supposedly "mild forms" of it have become a sort of convenient dumping ground for anything that doesn't easily fit anywhere else, much of which may not even be any type of malfunction. Oh well.

Can I ask you please to try to remember to sign your notes with four of these "~" as well as with your actual name if you want to add that. It's much easier for me to just click on your name to make a reply to you if you do it that way.

Thanks and best wishes to you as always, Invertzoo (talk) 17:19, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Mount Imlay Boronia
Hi Pete, nice to hear about your latest adventure, and to see the new article. I am glad you are careful on these outings, self preservation should certainly be your first priority when exploring by yourself on these mountains! As for the endangered thing, yes, you should remove the official "endangered" tag. However you can certainly use the citation you showed me in order to say that this species may possibly occur only on top of that one ridge. I would also certainly recommend that you make some phone calls and see if it is possible to get the appropriate botanists to at least think seriously about giving that species endangered status. All best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 00:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: File:Drosera spatulata flower.jpg
Hi, Poyt448, I've replied to your message on my talk page at. Just a quick note, though, most people appreciate new messages on talk pages at the bottom, not the top; this keeps everything in chronological order. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 13:15, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note
Hi Peter,

Always so nice to hear from you. I am thrilled that you have created so many excellent articles on the Australian Flora and Fauna. Thank you on behalf of the rest of the world.

It really doesn't matter one jot whether or not you identify yourself as a "Wikipedian". I imagine you don't like "labels" and are not a "joiner", and I can understand that, because I am mostly the same way. But this is absolutely not a run-of-the-mill wet-blanket organization with a hierarchy and a pecking order and rigid rules.

I see this encyclopedia as a huge and spontaneous outpouring of generosity and kindness on a truly global scale. Never in the history of mankind has a structure as magnificent as this been created by spontaneous volunteer efforts. It's a very touching thing to me. In many developing countries, in schools that have a $100 laptop but no access to any textbooks, this encyclopedia is being used to teach children about the world, and I think that's marvelous. I am very grateful to be able to contribute to it.

All best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 14:44, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Telopea mongaensis
No problem, makes for some nice images on the main page - the stringybark tree looks great too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:46, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Nice snail!
Hi Peter! I am on a vacation/field trip in Nevis, Leeward Islands, West Indies. I am fond of the tropics. I love the big handsome snail you found! Really cool! Of course being that it is in Australia, I have no idea what species or even what family it is! And I am not sure who to ask either. Do you think maybe you can find out the ID (?) and then we can help you write an article on it?

By the way, most land snails will feel like moving around if you wet them down, so when this nice creature fell into the creek, then afterwards it felt good and came out of the shell enough for you to photograph it. So if you find another snail, if you have a bottle of water with you, you can pour a bit over the snail and it will usually come out and crawl around. Because before that it was resting and waiting for the next rain.

I am doing well here with the marine snails, finding some rare things. In 9 days time I should be going on a day trip to a small Dutch island that has virtually never had its shells looked at at all, so that will be really interesting for me. I am hoping to find some beach drift with a lot of small species in it.

All good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 00:09, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Boronia imlayensis
Per WP:SOAP, article space is not to be used as a soapbox to express your personal opinions or greivances.Melburnian (talk) 11:55, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I did not mean to be impolite, I didn't leave a message when I removed the comment as I didn't want to make a song and dance about it. All that aside, I very much appreciate your contributions on local plants and the plant hunting that you have done to obtain some very nice and interesting photos. Melburnian (talk) 12:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * This is nothing official, but indicates its not on the Threatened Species list or ROTAP.Melburnian (talk) 12:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * FWIW alot of species are not recognised as threatened despite being of limited range - and the whole amazing community of wind-swept dwarf plants at Catherine Hill Bay had no status at all as all were just unusual forms. Anyway, I have expanded the article fivefold to get it on the main page (hehehe) I am so jealous as I am well and truly stuck in Sydney with no time to travel :( --> Template_talk:Did_you_know Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:28, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Now there's a lesson for all of us - don't get mad, get it on the main page :-) Melburnian (talk) 13:41, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gahnia aspera
The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Boronia imlayensis
The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Tree heights
Hi Peter! You sometimes give in your captions the heights of the trees in your photos. For example in following articles:


 * Elaeocarpus holopetalus
 * Endiandra sieberi
 * Eucalyptus fastigata
 * Eucalyptus nitens
 * Nothofagus moorei
 * Synoum
 * Toona ciliata

How did you measure those trees? Or are the heights only your estimations? Krasanen (talk) 11:52, 16 May 2010 (UTC) Hi, These tree heights are taken from texts. The rainforest tree heights are mostly from the botanist Alexander Floyd. I believe they are mostly his estimates. Though some are from actual measurements. Such as White Beech measured at 59 metres tall. Another example is Eucalyptus deanei, which was measured at 78 metres tall. Other botanists estimated other heights. They are not my work, but from botanical authorities as per the references. Thank you for looking at these articles. Poyt448 (talk) 13:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply. I meant image captions:
 * Elaeocarpus holopetalus, the sixth photo, 25 metres.
 * Endiandra sieberi, the seventh photo, 30 m.
 * Eucalyptus fastigata, 45 m.
 * Eucalyptus nitens, 80 and 60 m.
 * Nothofagus moorei, the 2nd photo, 50 m.
 * Synoum, the 5th photo, 15 m.
 * Toona ciliata, the last photo, 40 m. Krasanen (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't read your message properly. Apart from Elaeocarpus holopetalus (estimated by Floyd) and Eucalyptus nitens (80 metres) as per the National Parks brochure. The others are my estimates in the field. However, I think they are worthwhile numbers for inclusion in the articles. Poyt448 (talk) 13:47, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the information of the tree measuring gadget. I will be visiting the Woodford Tree in July. And I may buy one of those machines to attempt to re-measure the height. (It was measured in 1978 at 78 metres tall). The tree looks taller than the "Grandis" up near Bulahdelah. If a salesman can convince me that the machine is accurate, and if it can be useful in a thick forest, then I may buy one and use it at Woodford. Poyt448 (talk) 00:37, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, never seen that tree! Be interested to hear how it turns out. I have been interested in finding the tallest banksias, possibly Banksia integrifolia monticola at washpool was told to me by some north coast folks. Says me stuck in Sydney for the time being ... :( Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:16, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Getting the botanists to act on Boronia imlayensis
I am so happy to hear Peter that your perseverance seems to be paying off, and things appear to be moving! You yourself may be responsible in the long run for making sure this lovely plant gets officially protected. And I am delighted that Wikipedia itself was such an essential part of this process.

I want to congratulate you very much indeed. I also want to tell you to be very careful to look after yourself in every way possible. A very good friend of mine from Nevis who was an excellent naturalist and a strong force for conservation was killed a few weeks ago in a house fire. There is really no-one to take his place. He will be sorely missed. People like you are very few and far between and they are very essential to the planet.

All very best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 22:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Camp Gully Creek
Hi Peter, I added your great snail pics to the Meridolum marshalli stub article, but I wondered if you could tell me where Camp Gully Creek is, so that I can put that on there too? And did you find the snail out and about on leaf litter? Thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 19:14, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Zoo,

Camp Gully Creek flows into the Hacking River in Royal National Park, south of Sydney. The snail was found on the ground on the leaf litter under rainforest. The nearest town is Helensburgh, New South Wales.

One occasionally sees snail shells in the rainforests of New South Wales. This is the only one with a live animal inside that I've seen. And I instantly thought of you and Snek when first seeing it. It took half an hour for the snail to start to come out of its shell.

I've just returned from another trip. This time to two of the great northern jungles. No snails or shells seen. But great being at Davis Scrub Nature Reserve and Victoria Park Nature Reserve. I saw a snail eating bird, the seldom seen Noisy Pitta, and that's always a thrill.

thanks for your support, Peter Poyt448 (talk) 22:50, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Pararistolochia praevenosa
Hello! Your submission of Pararistolochia praevenosa at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!  — Rlevse • Talk  • 00:52, 10 June 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll help out with ref formatting a bit later. My time is all over the place for the next 12 hours. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You'll need to use cite web for the references. Mjroots (talk) 09:02, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Coocumbac Island Nature Reserve
Wizardman Operation Big Bear 18:06, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Randia moorei
Wizardman Operation Big Bear 00:02, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Heh, told you I'd been busy :) ...and we got the Pacific Highway on the mainpage too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * We-ell, then one can start looking in one's own garden...I have a photo somewhere. Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:42, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * PS: The Woodford tree sounds fascinating. My free time is very intermittent, but I could pacify my wife by combining a visit to the mountains with visiting friends and relatives up there, so let me know in advance when you're thinking of going. cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:05, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Pararistolochia praevenosa
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:02, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Endiandra introrsa
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 12:02, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

You are now a Reviewer
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Interest in biology
Hi Pete, Best wishes from NYC, yes I am well and hope you are too. I think it is fantastic that you are writing articles like Symplocos thwaitesii and illustrating them with your own photos. You are right that there is not very much interest in natural history these days, but I think that is because most people are not exposed to nature, and are not educated about it, so they have forgotten how fascinating it is. At one time they knew, because small children always respond well to nature. As a child I was exposed to it and encouraged in it, even in school. The Earth is our Mother and all the organisms are our sisters and brothers. If you are mentally divorced from that, then you will be very lonely in life and it will feel empty to you.

I know exactly what you mean about most other people. It is exactly the same with me and my research. I try to say to people that I had a good time I had in Nevis, St. Kitts and on St. Eustatius, with my shell hunting, and people just blank out. I found a Brazilian species that has only been found in the West Indies once before, to me that is totally thrilling. I had to work and work to work out what it was.

I think at some point in time people will fall back in love with nature again, we cannot live completely separated from it for long.

As for your tiny little creature, to examine it you need to catch it in a small glass pooter and then you refrigerate it so it becomes dormant, and then you can examine it under a microscope. And you take a photo using the microscope. And... then maybe you send the picture to "What's that Bug?", here:. Or you email the image to me and I will ask at the museum! But also take a look here at some common household insects:. Maybe if you can somehow make an image, perhaps we can do an article on this critter!

Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 21:23, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

That tiny arthropod...
Was probably a booklouse, genus Liposcelis. Most people have a few booklice in their homes. The booklice feed on mold and mildew that can grow on paper surfaces in damp areas. They are not harmful to humans. Invertzoo (talk) 13:07, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Howdy Zoo, yes the tiny creature on the computer screen may have been a booklouse. And I love their predator, the false scorpion which lives nearby. The tiny dot on the computer screen may have been a book louse. But, I'm not sure. It was so small, that I could barely perceive it. And thought it a piece of dust that stuck to the screen. (However, it moved and walked). So, I'm not so sure it was as you think.

By the way, I live under a forest, and there's a huge variety of invertebrates living here. I have a compost heap, with the most fantastic assemblage of all sorts of bugs living here. Before my recent trip, I held in my hand a most impressive vertebrate in the understorey. A wonder of the shaded forest world. It is my good pal and a beast of charm and beauty, Hemiergis decresiensis. I've photographed this animal but none of the photos are good enough for Wikipedia.

Today I watched Humpback Whales jump in the south Pacific Ocean by the Solitary Islands. My trip was to find a good photo of Endiandra hayesii. It's a rare laurel. I thought it would be at the botanic gardens in the north of New South Wales. I was there a few weeks ago, and I couldn't find it.

So I decided to drive the 11 hours to Minyon Falls and then walk down the bottom of the cliff. And then try to identify the plant. But when I arrived there yesterday, it was raining. And I just didn't want to get that wet. There's no track at the bottom of the waterfall. I'd been there before to (successfully) search for the rare fern Dicksonia youngiae. Instead, I just took a photo of the falls.

So, the trip to photograph Endiandra hayesii was not a success. But, then I returned to the botanic gardens. The friendly man at the counter said this rare plant is not growing here. It was here, but it died. He then invited me to the herbarium. And I asked about if there was a record of the rare plant there.

He told me of the secret password for the security system to get into the locked up herbarium. (It was a supposedly arcane botanic question, the answer of which I knew in an instant). This was fabulous to me, as this was the goal of the trip. And it turned out well, despite the bad weather and other bad luck. All of this, I must thank the great Australian botanist A.G.Floyd, who is the person involved with the herbarium.

Yes, we found dried leaves of Endiandra hayesii very soon. And I photographed dead dried leaves of the Endiandra hayesii and put it on the article.

The trip accrued nearly 300 photos, and that means there's another 50+ potential new articles for Wikipedia.

I look at other Wikipedia editors, and they are very brilliant people, so clever and talented. But, I reckon I'd rather be in the outdoors, and see such remarkable and wonderful places. In the past I wrote 2500 plus poems, and I climbed seldom seen mountains, and held wonderful animals in my hand. For that, I am most grateful.

The great and the small in the world of biology are easy to like. And it's a wonderful part of the world here, these rainforest remnants of eastern Australia are something very special.

kind regards PETE Poyt448 (talk) 13:22, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Plants...
Yeah, the page views are intriguing I find. Funny to see what gets more than others. I see you have just started Phaius tancarvilleae which I have in my garden actually. Flowers are nice :) I thought of a DYK hook for Flindersia xanthoxyla but was stumped for Pseudoweinmannia lachnocarpa... can't think of anything.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:03, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Flindersia xanthoxyla
 — Rlevse • Talk  • 18:02, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Phaius tancarvilleae
-- Cirt (talk) 18:04, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Acronychia laevis
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:02, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Cool slug
Hi Pete, Very cool slug! I am no expert on that species but I reckon for sure this is a juvenile red triangle slug. Take a look at the newly hatched individual on this page:. This image will be a nice addition to the article on that species. Let me know what the experts say. Thanks for thinking of me. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 12:58, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

P.S. I probably wasted a great deal of time and energy on the silly Paul the Octopus article, but once a Wikipedia friend had asked me to help with it, as a malacologist and a skeptic I couldn't bear to see Wikipedia appear to uncritically support the idea that a marine invertebrate could have psychic powers and generate opinions about the outcome of future soccer matches! Invertzoo (talk) 13:04, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Phaius australis
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Atalaya multiflora
The DYK project (nominate) 06:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

My garden...
I picked up a tube of Rulingia dasyphylla today, so I made a stub. You ever taken a photo of one? I got some goodies today and will be making articles as I go...hehehe :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:34, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I also got given a Solanum vescum - not sure i am game to eat the fruit though...Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:13, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Calochlaena dubia
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:03, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Adiantum formosum
The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Adiantum aethiopicum
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Adiantum hispidulum
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Happy Poyt448's Day!
For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 00:42, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * Well done :) - NB: this is how you can use the same ref over without rewriting all the time. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:45, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not worthy of this award. And I have no idea of what I'm talking about most of the time. And I don't really know much or care about references. (As you may have noticed). I'm a bushwalker, but you are a most superb Wikipedia editor.

You have improved the stubs that I wrote into a form which is easy to understand. What's really good about you is the way you promote Australian flora and flora. Nature lovers of Australia (including me) thank you. Poyt448 (talk) 05:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


 * I now have a big garden to plant things (lots of lawn which will disappear over the next few years :)) your images are giving me lots of ideas about planting stuff I'd never thought of (I am planning a rainforest bit). Next objective is a Good Article or three - I started buffing Eucalyptus pilularis...and had also buffed Ficus rubiginosa, Ficus macrophylla and Ficus obliqua, as well as Melaleuca quinquenervia - another tree that has been argued about and would be nice to settle is Eucalyptus regnans..anyway, decisions decisions...writing is funny, sometimes the articles come together nicely and naturally, and other times they don't. Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:13, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Imlay Boronia
Nice to hear from you Pete. My ribcage is slowly getting less painful. I do hope you manage to get some action from those government botanists! It's great that you are trying, someone has to try to get these wonderful plants some degree of protection. By the way, I feel you really do deserve that Wikipedia award you just got: very few people make as substantial a contribution here as you do. I always enjoy looking at your articles. Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 20:58, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Decaspermum humile
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 18:02, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Litsea bindoniana
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:02, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Meetup/Sydney
Nighttime midweek is easier than chunks of daytime...Pity couldn't be a night bushwalk with torches .... :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Also, see List of Wikipedians by number of DYKs - with 25 creations/expansions, you made it onto here now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:49, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Petalostigma triloculare
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Well done Peter, a very nice hook that looks great in the lead position of the DYK section today! Invertzoo (talk) 01:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Zoo,

Thanks so much for your support. And I hope you are feeling better after the injury, it sounds terrible. Hopefully you aren't in too much pain. The Wiki award given to me is totally undeserved. Your award is much more worthy, congratulations.

Thanks must go to user:Casliber who is promoting my hastily written articles. After the first couple of articles, I found it too stressful to promote my own articles for DYK. So, if it wasn't for him, then they'd not be so well known.

I need to write another e-mail in appreciation of the octogenarian A.G.Floyd, who is the source for the information on the rainforest trees. And his botanic gardens is where I photographed many dozens of plants. Last week I walked to the library to find more information on a rainforest tree. But on the way back home, I walked past Chatswood Oval and wrote an article on that. Of course, I mentioned the wonderful trees surrounding the cricket ground! cheers, Peter Poyt448 (talk) 02:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Mirbelia rubiifolia
I had a look at plantnet and saw that the NSW mapped distribution went further south than Jervis Bay (in their text), in fact down south to the border, so I thought I would check if it crossed the border in other sources which it turn out it does. I'm enjoying reading your articles and seeing your photographs, my knowledge of rainforest plants is somewhat limited. Melburnian (talk) 04:06, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, those little green dots on Plant Net may or may not be accurate. Some of which are out in the Tasman sea, hundreds of kilometres from land. Others in the desert are also badly wrong. I know of many errors with those green dots, so I don't trust them. Apparently this time they were right. Currently I have many, many photos of yellow & red flowers in the pea family. They're all similar but many are different species. And I haven't clue which is which. Poyt448 (talk) 04:17, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, those Tasman Sea Mirbelias must have taken up yachting :) I agree that the yellow and red pea flowers are often hard to identify. I always start with a local species list if I can find one, then do a labourious process of elimination. Melburnian (talk) 04:57, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Plant ID
I'm always happy to give a second opinion on ID - you're welcome to put images on my talk page to discuss them. Regarding File:Wildflower Woodford Blue Mountains.jpg, I would tend to go with Woollsia, what do you think? Melburnian (talk) 03:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Planchonella queenslandica
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Gmelina fasciculiflora
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Tomorrow...
A segment of bushland in Sydney's eastern suburbs is on view - was part of dep't of defence I think and is now being transferred to bushland to go tromping in. Folks are meeting at Randwick Community Centre - Munda Street, Randwick at 10 am (guided tour) - I am going. I finally have some time to do some bushwalking.... Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I couldn't make it. I had a date with my new girlfriend. We went to see the wildflowers at Ku-Ring-Gai Chase. And we visited the petroglyph that I discovered a few years ago: (named by my niece as "Boxhead"). The new girlfriend is divorced from her crazy bi-polar ex husband. And now she's hanging out with me! Talk about jumping out of the kettle into the fire! Hope you had a great time in the outdoors. And I'm sure you identified some nice plants. Perhaps we can meet up later. But it was so good to see Boxhead again today Poyt448 (talk) 11:32, 22 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Aah yes, I recall the petroglyphs at Kuringai Chase. The land in Randwick was pretty degraded and it was difficult to access good bits. Mainly a very interesting story about dept of defence, plus I got to meet some AABR folks I'd not met (or only met once or twice) before. NB: changed my mind and felt it'd be difficult to expand either conifer article 5x, but having some fun with various Lasiopetalum species - must try and grow these some day. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:11, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Nice rainforest snail shell
Hi Peter, Thanks for your note. My ribcage is more or less OK now, thanks for asking. Well done on finding another cool snail shell in the rain forest! I just now tried to search for info online about this species (also for this genus) and currently there is very little out there, but I did find out that a malacologist Dr. Stephanie A. Clark seems to be an expert on this and related genera. I think she may possibly have named this species and this genus in 2009. Her previous context was: Stephanie A. Clark, Malacology Section, Division of Invertebrate Zoology, Australian Museum, 6 College St., Sydney, NSW, 2010, Australia; meridolum@ozemail.com.au

However... since 2003 Dr. Clark has been in the US and is now (I think) at the Field Museum in Chicago. One or other of us can try to contact Dr. Clark and explain to her the situation, and then maybe she might send us a copy of her paper or give us more tips on how to find more info on this genus and species.

Best, Invertzoo (talk) 17:29, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Dear Zoo,

I hope you and Snek can write a good article on the snail at Mount Wilson. I went there on Friday just to write an article on the rainforest. As some of the internet contacts want me to write about these things. Here's the link to that requested blog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/17674930@N07/4909935098/

What I didn't expect was to find the extremely rare Pherosphaera fitzgeraldii at nearby Leura. The National Parks & Wildlife Service want me to post the twig I found to them. To make sure this is indeed the Blue Mountains Pine. The reason I went to this little waterfall was to photograph my most favourite plant. The greatest little champion of the Gondwana cool temperate rainforest. Years ago I could never find it anywhere. Fortunately, it's a bit easier to find these days. And in July the flowers are aromatic and glorious. It is rare in its own right.

This time, good fortune was on my side, the photo turned out well. They flower in the dead of winter, with the flowers pointing down to avoid snow and rain. Most of the flowers were dead and finished now, but a few were still looking good. Poyt448 (talk) 08:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Wow, very well done with your two rare plant findings, and such a beautiful photo you made! As for the snail article, I told Snek about it, and about the additional info, and I am sure he will start working on expanding the article soon. I am currently on vacation visiting my in-laws, friends and my editor on the West Coast, so I do not have the time to do very much work on here until I am back in NYC. Oh by the way, two things, as far as I know (and I could be wrong) but a personal communication from a researcher is fine in a published paper, but it is not acceptable on Wikipedia because it is not verifiable by other people. It will serve as a placeholder for the time being however until we expand the stub. And the other thing is that the content of Dr. Clark's paper is copyrighted, so I just now removed the short extract from it that you posted on my talk page. The best thing to do with any copyrighted info like that is to email it to me personally, not post it here. Anyway, many thanks and best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 16:47, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Mirbelia rubiifolia
Calmer  Waters  18:03, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Lasiopetalum ferrugineum
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 06:05, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Aspen...
I doubled it up and expanded Acronychia oblongifolia while I was at it. I want to grow a lemon aspen but the question is which species has the tastiest fruit....Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:10, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

PS: You've jogged my memory - Anders was doing research into Stenocarpus salignus which he felt may represent more than one species as it is quite heterogeneous. Wonder where he is up to with that... (I asked him about it several years ago...) Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:10, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Myoporum acuminatum
<span style="font-family:Verdana,sans-serif"> — <b style="color:#060;">Rlevse</b> • Talk  • 12:03, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Aha, we can expand Eriostemon australasius and Chamelaucium and make some DYK hook about waxflowers. Too bad Hoya is already too big to easily expand, and I already expanded Hoya australis...Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:41, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Chamelaucium, Eriostemon australasius
Hello! Your submission of Chamelaucium, Eriostemon australasius at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Eriostemon australasius
The DYK project (nominate) 00:04, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

flowers and flatworms
Hi Peter, thanks for your note. Well, I am with you on this. I think that terrestrial planarians are every bit as fascinating and yes, beautiful, as rare flowering shrubs and trees. Invertzoo (talk) 21:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Calaena..
I was/am interested...but have been caught up IRL preparing my annual fan mail for the Australian Government...Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:51, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Caleana major
-- Cirt (talk) 06:02, 7 November 2010 (UTC)


 * I took a photo of what I think is Diuris sulphurea (my image is the taxobox one - 95% sure but orchids are not my strong point) in Lawson a couple of weeks ago...Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:32, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Great photo and article. I'm afraid I'm more ignorant than most amateur botanists on orchids. Here in Chatswood West, there are hundreds of Cryptostylis erecta in flower. I love the Lawson forest area in the Blue Mountains, as it has my favourite plant at a relatively low altitude, Atherosperma. (Today I was to meet up with an ex girlfriend, but it was canceled. So, I'm trying to write as many Wikipedia articles as I possibly can). regards Poyt448 (talk) 03:54, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Snail
Hi Peter, Thanks so much for finding the new rainforest snail, photographing it, uploading the image of the snail, finding out the identity of the species from the staff at the Australia Museum, and making the new article about it! Unfortunately I have to explain that Snek (Michal) left Wikipedia on October 15th. Over time he experienced a series of what were for him extremely annoying, frustrating, and disappointing interactions with various editors here not to mention parts of the Wikipedia system (backed up with supposed quotes from policies) and after the last very major one, he left in disgust. It would be nice if he came back again at some point, because he was very active here and a major contributor, but I rather doubt that that will happen. So anyway, I had a look at your new article, wrote a genus article for the genus, and am trying to flesh out the article myself a bit, but as far as I can tell there is not much info about these endemic Australian forest snails on the web, so what I can add seems to be limited. Anyway your work is much appreciated, all good wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 14:09, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry to hear of the departure of Snek. He was very impressive. Thanks for making the article better. In the text of it I quoted a reference book. I don't have that book, and have never seen it. However, the Australian Museum thought it may be worthwhile to purchase, despite being $100. (This is why I didn't write much in the article). Incidentally I had over 100 leeches on me when on this trip, and the precautionary measures stopped any leech bites. That was quite an achievement in its own right! Poyt448 (talk) 18:18, 14 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Can you by any chance remember what small tree the snail was on? I could put that in the caption. Invertzoo (talk) 19:01, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Dear Zoo,

I'm sorry I didn't identify that particular plant. (I had around 10 leeches on me at the time and found photographing the snail difficult as it was hiding behind leaves). My expertise is rainforest tree identification, (and found four rainforest trees not on the botanic survey). I'd only be guessing if I gave a name of the plant. When first seeing this little alive snail, I thought of you & Snek. Poyt448 (talk) 21:29, 15 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, no problem at all Peter! We are very grateful indeed to have the image and the article, it doesn't matter about the identity of the plant. Best, Invertzoo (talk) 20:02, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cryptostylis
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cryptostylis hunteriana
Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cryptostylis subulata
Materialscientist (talk) 12:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Cryptostylis erecta
Materialscientist (talk) 12:05, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Acronychia pubescens
Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Five articles and counting...
I have expanded five so far for a five-hook DYK at T:TDYK (scroll down). Am trying to buff Pouteria australis now. Basically any rainforest tree with a funny-sounding name but I am running out of time...Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bosistoa transversa
Materialscientist (talk) 06:08, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Bosistoa floydii
Materialscientist (talk) 06:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Pouteria obovata
Materialscientist (talk) 06:11, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Pouteria eerwah
Materialscientist (talk) 06:12, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Pouteria australis
Materialscientist (talk) 06:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Archidendron muellerianum
Materialscientist (talk) 06:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Currency Creek Arboretum
Hello Peter. You made my day. I'm delighted to hear that the article on the Currency Creek Arboretum was read by others, especially Dean Nicolle. As for eucalyptus, I'm quite fond of it... it's prolific up and down the coast of California where I've lived most of my life. Cheers. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:04, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi,

Thanks for replying. I spoke to Dean Nicolle about some of my favourite eucalyptus trees. He did know a lot about them. At the base of the giant Eucalyptus deanei, I showed him my collected gumnuts from Eucalyptus scias subsp. apoda and Eucalyptus stenostoma.

He wants to change the name of the former to Eucalyptus apoda. And he also correctly guessed the species of Eucalyptus stenostoma from one gumnut. He is indeed an expert on his subject. I was most impressed.

Today, had some spare time and added to the article on stenostoma. Back in the 90s, I made a special trip down to Deua National Park to find stenostoma. But I didn't have a camera with me. Found it by accident (as they were all leaning together). So I decided to return months later, but I couldn't find it the second time! Where did they go? I searched harder the second time, but could not find them.

To love eucalyptus trees is easy for an Australian. But non indigenous plants are a big problem throughout the world. Please tell me, what species are those Eucalyptus trees in California? Are they E. saligna, E. globosa, E. camaldulensis?

You can bet they ain't scias apoda or stenostoma. You have to search very hard to find these fabulous mountain trees.

cheers Peter Poyt448 (talk) 05:45, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Eupomatia articles
Hello Peter. I am new to both the mechanics and the etiquette of Wikipedia. I noticed that the old illustration labelled as Eupomatia laurina is in fact E. bennettii (E. laurina has white flowers, E. bennettii has yellow-red flowers.). I have changed the description in Wikimedia Commons (but have not yet tried to have the file renamed), changed the caption in the Eupomatia article, and removed the illustration from the E. laurina article. I'm thinking that it would be good to move your E. laurina photo to the taxobox, and, for the E. bennettii article, to replace your photo with the illustration. What do you suggest? EupoMan (talk) 11:17, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Great idea, thanks for your keen observation. I've adjusted the photo as you suggested on Eupomatia laurina. The article on E. bennettii now has the photo and the drawing. Plant Net & A.G.Floyd say that E. laurina's flowers may be cream as well as white, but they don't mention any red. So, that (excellent) old painting appears to be mis-labeled. Poyt448 (talk) 12:48, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

trees
I expanded a couple of them - see []. It can be damn hard to think of interesting hooks sometimes though...Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Great work again. If you are interested in Gossia fragrantissima, you could mention something along the lines that the former habitat is mostly destroyed and it is difficult to regenerate from seed and cuttings, as well as being endangered by extinction. I've pretty well exhausted all my photos as far as Wiki is concerned. Those trips up to the Coffs Harbour gardens in May & June produced so many photos for our articles. Poyt448 (talk) 13:13, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I'll think of something in the next few days. Well, there is always a stack of Sydney flora to take snaps of. e.g. Marsdenia suaveolens, which I always thought smelt of Perkin's Paste (loved that smell :)) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:20, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Alphitonia petriei
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Tylophora barbata
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors
Hi! Since you've been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian, I wanted to let you know about the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, and specifically the role of Online Ambassador. We're looking for friendly Wikipedians who are good at reviewing articles and giving feedback to serve as mentors for students who are assigned to write for Wikipedia in their classes.

If that sounds like you and you're interested, I encourage you to take a look at the Online Ambassador guidelines; the "mentorship process" describes roughly what will be expected of mentors during the current term, which started in January and goes through early May. If that's something you want to do, please apply!

You can find instructions for applying at WP:ONLINE. The main things we're looking for in Online Ambassadors are friendliness, regular activity (since mentorship is a commitment that spans several months), and the ability to give detailed, substantive feedback on articles (both short new articles, and longer, more mature ones).

I hope to hear from you soon.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:11, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for this request. However, at this stage, I'm still keen on outdoor exploration, wilderness photography and finding as many subjects for Wikipedia as is possible. Perhaps later, when I'm less physically active, I'll look at being a mentor. I've been extremely fortunate to know user:Invertzoo, who is a wonderful mentor for me. Poyt448 (talk) 10:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Xanthorrhoea media
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 * The photos are completely different and do not resemble each other. My photo is original. Removed this message Poyt448 (talk) 10:43, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to let you know Pete, this bot message was about the written content of the Xanthorrhoea media article, not about the image. However I must say that right now there is no real similarity between the article's written text and the text on the tumbiwetlands page. Perhaps when you first started it they were a bit more similar? However I should explain that this bot is easily confused by superficial rough similarities. I get these messages fairly often and they are often almost always not quite right. Bots like this one are useful but they are not very bright! Best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 14:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't even know about that page before writing the article. Hadn't even seen it. Xanthorrhoea identification is very difficult in the field, and much of the literature on these plants is out of date. There's been a significant amount of taxonomic review of late. So, I've attempted to correct my errors and the current confused state. By the way, I didn't climb Mount Imlay in 40 degree C temperatures. (Recently it has been 42 here). But it has cooled down a bit now, and when getting the chance, I'll try for more outdoor exploration. cheers Poyt448 (talk) 22:19, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Here's a photo of me at a most remote and remarkable place, very few people get here. The World Heritage boundary was adjusted to fit in these Xanthorrhoea. I'm pretty sure these are X. glauca. Let's hope so! Poyt448 (talk) 03:59, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Summery Australia
Hi Peter, Thanks for your latest message and the very interesting article on the Mount Imlay Mallee. What a pity that this tree is so endangered, but how glad I am that you were able to find them and photograph a living one! Yikes, I can't even image climbing mountains in 104 degrees F! And fighting your way through all the bushes, and meeting such a poisonous snake in the process! Also thanks for letting me look at all the lovely images of yours; I am totally jealous! Here in NYC we have been having an unbelievably cold and unbelievably snowy winter, with more than twice as much snow as usual. Plus I haven't seen much nature at all for quite a while, mostly just looking at dirty piles of snow and piles of garbage bags! I am OK thanks for asking, but my husband broke both forearms in December, and then picked up one of those hospital superbugs, so we have both been living a strange life for the last two months. Best wishes to you, Invertzoo (talk) 21:23, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Allocasuarina portuensis
Materialscientist (talk) 16:03, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Nielsen Park
Materialscientist (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Meridolum middenense
Hello Peter. Thanks so much for the nice new snail shell photograph and thank you for thinking of Snek and I whenever you come across a live snail or a gastropod shell in your explorations, it is much appreciated. I took a quick look and could not find much about this species online, but I am sure that Snek will be able to work on it further. I just wanted to say that when you come across an empty shell in good condition like that one, it would be handy for us if you could also take a photo of the underside of the shell, as well as one of the upper surface. Here in NYC we are technically already in spring, but we had snow last night and it is only a few degrees above freezing this morning and overcast. Brrr. All good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 14:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Just to explain: when I said the "underside" of the shell I meant the part that shows the opening of the shell, the aperture, because the details of the aperture of a snail shell are often very helpful in determining what species it is. Invertzoo (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Geijera parviflora
Materialscientist (talk) 16:05, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Garawarra State Conservation Area
Hello! Your submission of Garawarra State Conservation Area at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Alathyria profuga
Thanks so much for the image of the shells of the rather lovely river mussels that you found beside the Goulburn River. I am happy for you that you had a lovely day exploring! Invertzoo (talk) 20:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Garawarra State Conservation Area
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Comesperma sphaerocarpum
The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Eucalyptus expressa
Calmer  Waters  00:05, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Your first Mozart article
Hello Peter, Nice to hear from you and congratulations on launching 584 articles! My husband and I are both pretty much OK now, thanks for asking. And yes, I feel about Wikipedia the same way you do; it's just amazing to be able to add new content on subjects you really enjoy, it's thrilling. I took a look at your brand new music article and I went through and tidied up the prose a bit. I also added onto the talk page the project template for WikiProject Classical Music, and I left a note on that project talk page asking if someone there could take a look at the article. Your dream was pretty funny and probably just a normal-type anxiety dream, but I did want to say that since the authenticity of this composition is rather a controversial subject, you may get a flurry of activity, with perhaps not all of it positive in tone, so brace yourself just in case! I also wanted to say that anything at all that looks like an opinion in the article needs to have a citation, or failing that those points should be omitted. I left them in for the time being. All best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 19:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Pete, you may want to look at the new discussion here (and the old message it refers to), which is in response to the note I left for the WikiProject Classical Music people: Invertzoo (talk) 19:47, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Actually I now I copied all the messages that are about this composition and placed them on its talk page. Invertzoo (talk) 01:03, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Leucopogon ericoides
Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Cassytha glabella
The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Astroloma humifusum
Heya, I expanded this article and got it lined up at DYK - ever taken a pic of it? Casliber (talk · contribs) 22:53, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, can't help you with this one, but I did photograph another Native Cranberry earlier in the year. By the way, you are doing some great stuff lately. Poyt448 (talk) 23:55, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I figured a few which can be given hooks - also there is a shortage of nominations at T:TDYK....I figure I'll be happy if there are articles on all Sydney Basin flora too :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:16, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Speaking of which...how about Xylomelum pyriforme every time I see one someone has stolen the goddamn seed pods :( ? Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:21, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

The other day I saw a large Woody Pear, measured at 7 metres tall with my laser gadget. I see they can grow to more than double that size. Poyt448 (talk) 06:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I always heard the top height to be ~5 m, but clearly up in the Wollemi there are some tall ones....Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:40, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

If you are keen for more DYK nominations, I had a go at Hacking River. Surprised there was no article on it Poyt448 (talk) 05:36, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Great work with the big Mahogany up at the Daintree National Park. Thanks for your efforts. I've visited hundreds of Australian rainforests, and can say the big jungle on the Hacking River is as good as any of them. Here's a picture of me, (the river is just out of shot in the background). Soon hope to return there in the next few weeks with a couple of mates. If you are ever free let me know. Cheers Poyt448 (talk) 03:26, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes that looks nice - would love to go on a tramp sometime but have been busy +++. I have expanded the Hacking River article but am trying to find a hook, after first go here, but the snails might be the same species???? Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:57, 22 August 2011 (UTC)



Yes, it's hard to think of a hook for the Hacking. All I can think of is the botanical curiosities; such Gmelina & Bangalow Palm occurring here. As well as the Flagellaria indica at its southern most limit of natural distribution. Probably not adequately hookish. I photographed that snail at nearby Camp Gully Creek. It took 20 minutes to partially come out of the shell. Michael Shea at the Australian Museum is usually very helpful with snail queries. Poyt448 (talk) 09:11, 22 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, I'll nose around - BTW, it is nice to see translations hehehe Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:54, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for promoting the Hacking River. (Shouldn't say this but I wrote it entirely from general knowledge in about ten minutes). Photographed the pears of the Woody Pear today. Do you want them uploaded onto commons? The French translation of the Spurwood has an error. They translated malesia as Malaysia, which is not the same thing. Surprised how interesting the town of Gerroa is. Stayed there in the caravan park on a school excursion. Landcare have given me the OK to return to the Hacking River and collect seeds of the Gmelina. Will wait for spare time, and low Hacking River levels. cheers and regards Poyt448 (talk) 08:18, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I always liked the look of Gerroa - never stayed there though. A big 'yes' on woody pear images, and heck I might even get a seedling and grow a Gmelina in my garden (chuckle) :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:20, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I have umpteen White Beech seedlings. You are welcome to them. (Illawarra Landacare was thrilled when I gave them 27 seedlings recently from two Illawarra seed sources). There's only 100 native trees there in the Illawarra, according to the late Anders Bofeldt. This is why I need to return to the Hacking River and get more seeds for Landcare. Some White Beech I planted here in Chatswood West are now 12 metres tall.

According to Wikipedia, my 600th article is on my favourite of all plants. (I've written more than 600). But it's a good round number, and of all things in biology, this is my very best favourite: Atherosperma moschatum subsp. integrifolium.

I'll drop off baby White Beech in your area if you want them. Poyt448 (talk) 07:57, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes please - I have 1100 m2 to fill :) I found some nice Corymbia eximia as street trees in Wellington St Rozelle (between Terry St and Victoria Rd -all coming into flower and looking great - also a mini-one in Maroubra (but waiting to confirm with randwick council tree officer) Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:45, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello,

I've just cut the flesh off over a thousand fruit of the Grey Teak, from the Hacking River. (Collected by me and another Wiki editor). And then I placed the woody capsules in pots. In a year or two, 300+ new trees should grow. There's about 700 more black Gmelina fruit to go. I'm pretty good at repetitive physical brainless tasks.

On my next drive south, I'd be happy to give you several Gmelina leichhardtii juveniles. Perhaps it would be better if we communicated personally, rather than through Wikipedia. My e-mail is number448@hotmail.com - I can drop the plants off at your address.

Did you see the unusual juvenile tree photographed on Flickr at the Hacking River, when I was after Gmelina fruit? http://www.flickr.com/photos/17674930@N07/6149418576/in/photostream

It's caused a bit of controversy. But the botanical experts tend to think it's an unusual form of the common Schizomeria ovata.

kind regards, Peter Poyt448 (talk) 07:21, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Help with a snail ID?
Hello Pete, At Project Gastropods we got a note from User:99of9 (Toby Hudson) who lives in NSW and who photographed this snail in Diwan, North-East Queensland. He asked us what it is. I think the snail is probably in the family Cyclophoridae but that's as far as I can guess. I was wondering if you could possibly ask your shell expert if he would try to identify it for us? Do you think that would be OK? Many thanks, Invertzoo (talk) 13:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've sent an e-mail to Dr. John Healy, Curator of Molluscs at the University of Queensland. Let's hope he can assist. Poyt448 (talk) 05:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * By the way, on Sunday I took a live spider to the Australian Musuem for identification. This community of creatures lives just a few miles from the Sydney Harbour bridge. They don't know what it is, and suggest it might be in the genus Aname. They are pretty fierce and deadly looking creatures. They don't appear interested in finding out what the spider is, and don't seem to care about the mystery either. Poyt448 (talk) 05:45, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * How disappointing. If it is a new megalomophid it would be an exciting thing for the world. However, most museum researchers, even taxonomists, specialize in just one family of organisms and tend not to know much about the other families, even within the same phylum. Plus they tend to be working on their "career" to the exclusion of everything else. However I know a very nice spider person at AMNH and I will try to ask him who you could contact about this. Have you some images? Have you uploaded any? Best, Invertzoo (talk) 12:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC) If you have an image you can either upload, or email it to me and I will send it to the spider person here and see what he suggests. Invertzoo (talk) 13:20, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


 * The person who found the white snail, he searched the web and found this link to an unidentified image of what appears to be the same species, this one was living in Cooper Creek Wilderness. Perhaps you will also want to forward the link to Dr. Healey? Here it is. Best to you Pete, Invertzoo (talk) 12:41, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * And it turns out that webpage has a species ID too: Noctepuna cerea. Does that sound right?  So perhaps we don't need to trouble Dr Healey too much.  Sorry for the slow detective work.  --99of9 (talk) 12:57, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * But then again, this site gives a completely different picture for Papuina cerea, which is supposed to be a synonym! So I will be interested to hear what Dr Healey has to say. --99of9 (talk) 13:16, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I think that Noctepuna cerea may not turn out to be the correct name for this snail because it seems to be an operculate species and probably is in the family Cyclophoridae. Let's wait and hear what the specialist has to say and then we'll make a stub if he IDs it. Thanks! Invertzoo (talk) 13:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)(UTC)

Dear Zoo,

According to the University of Queensland, the snail in question is Noctepuna cerea.

I received an e-mail today from the spider expert Dr. Robert Raven. He suggests the mystery spider in my garden is Stanwellia hoggi. Dr. Raven is perhaps the leading scientist in this group of organisms. So, I'm most indebted to him for this information. Too bad the drive to the city to the country's leading institute could not give a proper response. They got the genus wrong as well. S. hoggi was on my shortlist of possibilities.

This morning, I found a most beautiful little creature. A mountain snail, at the fabulous Pigeon House Mountain, in coastal southern New South Wales.



Yesterday, I photographed the desperately endangered Socketwood in situ. So, it was a great trip. The mountain climb this morning found in me in robust health. And the biology and weather was as near as perfect as one could ever hope for.

cheers Peter xxx Poyt448 (talk) 08:32, 24 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Brilliant, thanks! --99of9 (talk) 00:40, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Mountain snail
What a beautiful image of the snail, Peter! Thanks so much! I will tell Snek about this new article and maybe he can add to it (he only left Wikipedia for 2 months and has been back quite a while now). While I was in Southern California (I just got back) there was the biggest southwesterly swell they have had in 11 years (18 foot waves at 22 second intervals at its maximum) and it was coming from a storm off of New Zealand, so really that made me see how the Pacific is all one body of water. Best to you, Invertzoo (talk) 21:33, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi again Peter, I wrote in the caption that the snail is shown crawling on rock, but was it really rock fragments/rocky soil? And was it a small guy, like about an inch long? Invertzoo (talk) 14:18, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Zoo,

The snail was small indeed, about an inch long. It was on the formed track, rather the Nowra Sandstone of Pigeon House itself. I took around ten photos, and this photo was the only one not blurry. The track stopped here; and above were a series of ten or so steel ladders to climb up the rock to the summit. At this point is the rare Pigeon House Ash, an attractive little tree, in one its few places of natural distribution. (I better fix up that stub). Pigeon House is a popular tourist mountain; unlike many of the New South Wales mountains I'm fortunate to climb. Thanks to you and Snek for improving the snail article. It was certainly the cutest snail I've encountered. Poyt448 (talk) 22:31, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it's a super cute snail, and really a phenomenally good photo with the light shining through its body. Thanks again for thinking of us! Invertzoo (talk) 00:10, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Lepidosperma laterale
<b class="IPA">r ʨ anaɢ</b> (talk) 16:06, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Dysoxylum pettigrewianum
Materialscientist (talk) 00:02, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Hacking River
Courcelles 08:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Corymbia eximia
— HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   08:02, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Alloxylon pinnatum
I suppose you've not taken a photo of this species....? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * sorry, haven't got that one. Will return to the Hacking River, probably on Thursday to check out the mystery plant. Most likely, it's something well known, but just a bit different in form. Doubtful if it is anything remarkable. But another Wiki editor is accompanying me, so that will be good.Poyt448 (talk) 07:02, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool - I'll be thinking of you (stuck in an office at work :(


 * PS: We have no pic of Eucalyptus longifolia, if you happen to come across one - now I've written about it I know to look out for the flowerheads in groups of three (rather than seven). Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:58, 12 September 2011 (UTC) The south coast eucalyptus are a big interest of mine, I only have one out-of-focus photo of E.longifolia. It looks almost presentable after cropping out three quarters of the picture. In fact I wrote a (pretty good) poem about a big Woollybutt over 20 years ago at Eden. At the time I thought it was E. cypellocarpa Poyt448 (talk) 12:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Aha nice. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:39, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Eucalyptus eugenioides
Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Crikey! Terrific work from you. I was on the walk back from the mighty Atherosperma moschatum subsp. integrifolium at Lawson, altitude 650 metres. My head was full of thoughts of the fabulous scented Southerner at such a low altitude, and the cool temperate rainforests and the ancient botany of this part of the world. Looked up, took a photo of a stringybark. It most probably is Eucalyptus eugenioides. (Had my book with me). Sat down on the track, tried to ID it. Held leaves, gumnuts, and looked at the bark. I just love the local eucalyptus, and it's so good that you are interested in them too. kind regards Peter Poyt448 (talk) 09:04, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Eucalyptus oreades
Materialscientist (talk) 08:03, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Epacris obtusifolia
Orlady (talk) 00:03, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Gastrodia sesamoides
Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Photo IDs?
Spring is a great time - taking lots of photos of plants near work - but....not good on vines - File:Mtannanvine.jpg and File:UnidvineSGNG.jpg I am not familiar with...and File:Xanthorrhoea grnp.jpg is...? X. minor (??) Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:31, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

PS: Today I walked around Yeramba Lagoon (which is totally covered in Salvinia : and took some photos - I found File:Hollylikeyeramba.jpg - is this Alchornea do we think? Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:15, 6 November 2011 (UTC) looks like Myrsine variabilis to me. I don't see too many Alchornea in Sydney, (none actually). The closest I've seen are at Mount Keira (a fabulous mountain climb) Poyt448 (talk) 10:49, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * okay...noi idea Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:55, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I am moving out of my proteaceae comfort zone and snapping anything in flower and anything really weird - hence File:Lomyer.jpg I think is Lomandra gracilis...(?) File:Pinkyeramba.jpg haven't figured out yet, File:Heathyeramba.jpg astroloma pinifolium in fruit (???), File:Berryyeramba.jpg ???, File:Tuftyeramba.jpg ???,Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:55, 6 November 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Pinkyeramba.jpg is a Stylidium sp.Melburnian (talk) 11:19, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, indeed, a Stylidium sp.


 * File:UnidvineSGNG.jpg – please check for yourself against the diagnosis of Morinda jasminoides.
 * File:Xanthorrhoea grnp.jpg – not likely X. minor – the 'flower head' is too lengthy for that taxon, but the pattern of foliage and lack of stump are necessary characters, but not diagnostic characters for X. minor. Using leaf cross–section and flower technical features, with the PlantNet key will help.
 * File:Lomyer.jpg – yes, looks like you're right with L. gracilis, please check against the PlantNet key and each of the diagnoses of: Lomandra gracilis cf. Lomandra filiformis
 * File:Heathyeramba.jpg – yes, Astroloma pinifolium, by photo alone, almost, certainly. In NSW this photo's appearance excludes the only other Astroloma species. In Victoria, there's also similar Astroloma conostephioides.
 * File:Berryyeramba.jpg – almost certainly declared (noxious & WoNs) weed Asparagus asparagoides, commonly named: Bridal Creeper.
 * File:Tuftyeramba.jpg – certainly is an Isolepis species—you've captioned it I. inundata—but which species, from just this photo alone cannot be certain at all, looks good candidate for I. inundata. Surprised no Wikipedia plants editor has created any Isolepis genus page (Cyperaceae).

———--macropneuma 09:10, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi macropneuma, I asked Alan Fairley to ID those, apart from the X. minor. Shoulda picked Asparagus asparagoides - most of these were around Yeramba Lagoon, plenty of weeds there...Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:13, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * PS: Alan said the purple base of leaves confirmed the Lomandra as Lomandra gracilis. Anyway, I am snapping anything I see inflower around Sydney at the moment, but am a real neophyte outside of proteaceae....Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

all right more then
I did a short walk on track in NE of Wentworth Falls - this was from upper southern end (near Allen Cr) - more photos...
 * File:Purpleflwrwentfalls2.jpg


 * File:Purpleflwrwentfalls1.jpg


 * File:Epacriswentfalls1.jpg


 * File:Droserabinata.jpg


 * File:Gompholobiumwentfalls1.jpg


 * File:Gompholobiumwentfalls2.jpg

Just sifting through stuff I never got round to uploading... cheers. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:42, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Purpleflwrwentfalls1.jpg – definitely a Comesperma taxon, definitely! Haha! Which species from just this photo alone, not so 'definitely'! :) —--macropneuma 21:32, 10 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool! I have emailed Alan Fairley again - am beginning to dredge thru my photo image files of bushwalks I have done around hte place and taken snaps here and there...note Isolepis now bluelinked ;) Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:13, 11 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Great to notice in passing that you've got names captioned, now, on all those photos. On those Wikipedia image pages somewhere (??? – in metadata?), please i would love to see credit given to Alan Fairley for the identification of those photos (– for those he did ID for you by email); Not sure if there is a standard way to do that, but where there's a will, which i'm sure there is, there's a ? <(my) smile>.


 * Alan Fairley, a legend, of course, as you would know, on greater Sydney plants ..., so the credit is so due. Also, shouldn't that last, be a blue link—notable—too?


 * Thanks, you folks, you're such productive Wikilifeforms. This dialogue, i continue on my talk page. --macropneuma 11:53, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Even more from round the place

 * File:Pomaderrisgrnp.jpg


 * File:HeathRNP.jpg


 * File:GrevilleaRNP.jpg


 * File:Unidyeramba.jpg


 * –a 5 sec. passing cursory look—looks like a Xanthosia sp. to me at this first glance (sorry no time, getting eaten up by mossies! and busy just now). Anyway, that'll get you your own point of ID departure, if my cursory look is right. --macropneuma 10:53, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Aah yes! I think it is X. pilosa. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Heh, Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:28, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * There's also Sprengelia incarnata and another that looks just like the taxobox image at Grevillea oleoides ;-) --Melburnian (talk) 11:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Much appreciated. Am digging out lots of old photos. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:01, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool :) Melburnian (talk) 12:04, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

More still

 * File:Fernblueflwrbmnp.jpg was in or near Coachwood Glen in Megalong Valley IIRC....Sydney Fungal Studies Group walk - have uploaded mushroom photos previously but did take some other snaps along the way...Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:53, 29 November 2011 (UTC)


 * File:Fernpink.jpg ditto

the ferns resemble Lindsaea linearis & Blechnum ambiguum. Can't be too sure though about the former. Poyt448 (talk) 06:09, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

File:Fernblueflwrbmnp.jpg – another passing cursory look by me, try Asplenium flabellifolium. Lindsaea linearis has pinnae ('leaflets') angled in a different plane to this photo's fern's pinnae. Blue flowers look, in passing cursory look only, like a Lobelia sp., or perhaps even a Hybanthus sp.—a very much cursory stab at it throwing caution to the wind and without a care. i'd need to check those species documentations for any more than a these passing cursory looks, which i'm sure you'd like doing anyway.--macropneuma 08:35, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I think you're right about Asplenium flabellifolium  - nothing else looks like it really. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:01, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

But wait! There's more!
I went to Ingar Falls a few years ago now (in BMNP somewhere south of Glenbrook), and was impressed by the peas - these have been gathering dust in some archives - I'll read up too. Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)


 * File:PeaIngarfalls1.jpg a bacon-and-eggs but which....


 * File:PeaIngarfalls2.jpg Gompholobium


 * File:PeaIngarfalls3.jpg another Gompholobium

And two from a sandstone plateau, Georges River NP:


 * File:PeaflwrGRNP.jpg a Bossiaea I presume...


 * File:HeathGRNP.jpg damn, I thought I uploaded the one with the flower.....

the end product...
Have a look at Persoonia levis and Persoonia lanceolata, which are in the process of becoming Featured - hopefully will get a few more flora up to this level to act as a template for others...Casliber (talk · contribs) 15:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Syncarpia glomulifera
Can't believe we have so few photos of this - just expanded it. Did you ever take photos of the trunk? Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:09, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * planned to photograph the trunk today in the Illawarra, but the thunderstorm got in the way. Will do so, ASAP. Poyt448 (talk) 05:24, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * PS: Have a look at Ficus obliqua too - will try to get this ti GA/FA too. Got your lithophyte photo in :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:54, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Petrophile pulchella
The DYK project (nominate) 16:04, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Commersonia fraseri
Gatoclass (talk) 16:48, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Sacrilege!
an alien tree, but it is such a nice tree there at RBG, and no article.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Wow, I never knew Allocasuarina inophloia existed - I want to grow one! Amazing plant and easy DYK hook.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:23, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

there's more photos of this plant on commons, I didn't know about it until seeing one at the gardens the other day. I could do 3 more stubs on NSW rainforest trees, don't know if they can be "hooked" though Poyt448 (talk) 22:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Heh, it's funny - sometimes we can find hooks, and sometimes not, but expanding and finding out is all good....where is the Allocasuarina inophloia at RBG?? I've never seen it there.....Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:27, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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I can make a DYK of Blue Gum Forest, Blue Mountains but it'd be good to get a reference for the flora and fauna (even though obvious). I looked online and on my bookshelves this morning and couldn't find anything...Casliber (talk · contribs) 23:03, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Agree about the refs - a problem. I can't find anything specific about the forest on the internet. This morning I planned to drive there and walk down. There might be something from the National Park office if I go next week.Poyt448 (talk) 23:17, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

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more mystery plants
syzygium? Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:42, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * file:Btlfrstplant.JPG - and this one? Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:55, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm practically useless at photo identification, making a fool of myself too often. However, that's very likely to be Notelaea venosa. The regular veiny patterns distinguish it from Notelaea longifolia. cheers, Peter Poyt448 (talk) 22:03, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Btlfrstplant.JPG looks like Platysace linearifolia .--Melburnian (talk) 23:01, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Notelaea venosa are fruiting now throughout the Sydney region. A good idea to grab the fruit, as they are slow but good to germinate. Platysace linearifolia are abundant now in flower. Apparently related to carrots. I'm off to the Royal Botanic Sydney today. Want any photos? Poyt448 (talk) 23:24, 14 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Hah, I was there yesterday and took some snaps of the Eucalyptus robusta, which I've expanded 5x. I have one in my garden :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:46, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wow, looks like our paths will never meet! In 2007 I photographed a beautiful blue insect, now writing the article. Diphlebia euphaeoides. E.robusta is a great tree, I've seen them 30 metres plus tall. They occur naturally at Bushland Park, Lane CovePoyt448 (talk) 01:50, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep! Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, do you think this is useful hook? "DYK unlike most Damselflies, the Tropical Rockmaster rests with its wings outspread?" Do you think this is worth a DYK?Poyt448 (talk) 02:19, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Need to think about it....Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:11, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Btlfrstplant.JPG looks like either Platysace heterophylla (which i'm very familiar with in SE Melb. remnant–heathlands) or P. linearifolia, please all check all the key characters in the NSW PlantNet Platysace key, eg. the peduncles in this photo appear, even without a scale, to be longer than 25mm, and the question of lax inflorescences seems moot here with this photo.

We all enjoy recognising plants and keying them out, i hope—i certainly do enjoy solving these 'kinda puzzles'. --macropneuma 07:15, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * The photo is taken in Royal National Park which doesn't accord with PlantNet's P. heterophllya distribution. .--Melburnian (talk) 09:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)


 * So what. That's not smart as far as botany is concerned. It looks more like P. heterophylla to my field botanist experienced professional's eyes.


 * Yes, i already recognised both aspects of that, the photo's location and PlantNet's distribution records. PlantNet also records that it grows north of Sydney and far south of Sydney, in similar coastal heath habitats to Sydney's—quotation: "Usually found in coastal or near coastal heath on sand or swampy situations; between Yamba and Lennox Head and south from Eden." There's no apparent biological reason that it wouldn't grow in suitable Sydney habitats—only for the reason perhaps that botanists of the kind that are intrepid–but–parochial/really amateurish kind of Sydney–only botanists, many whom i have professionally worked with in the bush regeneration industry there (as well as Melbourne region), not even looking for it there because of their assuming that everything that looks like that approximate appearance is P. linearifolia.


 * Important: ...The only way ever to find new records is to abide by the botanist's rule that distribution is not used for determination of taxonomy. Finding new taxa and new distribution locations provide some of the greatest excitements for us botanists. Simplistically, to use existing distribution to diagnose a taxon is 'arse–about', and guarantees failure to find new records and extend ranges... . I'm always leery of amateur botanists who try to use distribution records as a terribly bad and lazy way to determine plant taxonomy. --macropneuma 11:19, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree on that. I recall Peter Hinde telling me that the valley between Newnes and Newnes Plateau was completely unexplored botanist-wise.....lots of fun still to be had. Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:30, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeh, now for a dig—a silliness—hahaha!


 * Yeh, Wollemi Pine is not Wollemi Pine! It is just a Hoop Pine planted outside its natural N. NSW–QLD range and growing really weirdly because it is unhappy outside its natural distribution. ( :P :) – are emoticons even allowed in WP? haha!). --macropneuma 11:50, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

One thing and another
Hello Pete! Thanks for the note on my talk page. How interesting about the fossils at Wynyard, it sounds really cool!

In this pdf there is a list of Early Miocene fossils from Fossil Bluff, Wynyard, Tasmania, so I would assume the shells you photographed are Early Miocene too. And actually Wikipedia already has an article about the family Wynyardiidae, including Wynyardia bassiana, a species of early marsupial, a sort of possum from the Wynyard fossil beds.

I did actually see you on the main page and was amazed, I just forgot to mention it to you! Invertzoo (talk) 23:10, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Lightning trip - photos from nr lake keepit - in flower now - Eucalyptus albens??? -->, - this tree side of the road nr lake keepit. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

next

 * another tree...likely the same? Eucsomerton1a.JPG, Eucsomerton1b.JPG, Eucsomerton1c.JPG - Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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 * acacia in flower too...Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:18, 11 June 2012 (UTC). Acaciababbinboon1a.JPG and Acaciababbinboon1b.JPG

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Sea Acres National Park...
Does the brochure list the vegetation species? Just need some extra inline references...Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:13, 16 September 2012 (UTC) Howdy, practically all the vegetation references are from A.G. Floyd's book. A brochure mentioned a strangler fig only. I was most fortunate to visit the area on Monday & Tuesday. The rainforest is not particularly tall (unlike Boorganna Nature Reserve). But of great beauty and interest all the same. Peter Poyt448 (talk) 06:20, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Peter, always great to hear from you. What a superb image of the small snail! Thank you so much for taking the time to photograph and to upload it, as well as making a stub for us! Could you say roughly how long the snail was from tip to toe when active? And how cool to see a land snail shell the size of a tennis ball, even if it was tremendously eroded. It's late fall here in NYC, but quite warm today, will rain later. All good wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 14:33, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

the snail was described as a juvenile by the expert; it was tiny, about 8 mm long fully extended. Poyt448 (talk) 19:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Dr. Stephanie Clark thinks the very large snail at Boorganna Nature Reserve could be Hedleyella falconeri. And this snail I found here: Minnamurra is probably a new species of Meridolum, "Meridolum cf gulosum". She has discovered dozens of new species, apparently. Ironically the snail shell was next to an extremely rare tree. Poyt448 (talk) 20:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC) Would you like this photo on Wiki Commons? Poyt448 (talk) 01:12, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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I notice that you have recently linked to the "Littoral Rainforests of New South Wales" article from dozens of other articles. In almost every case such links appear to be inappropriate and/or misleading. In most cases you have placed such links into articles on plant species that are not even endemic to NSW. In several cases the species are not even endemic to Australia. Clearly in such cases the links are erroneous and misleadingly stating that the species are only found in NSW forests. In many other cases you have linked to the Littoral Rainforests of New South Wales article even though the text of the article is referring only to littoral forests as a general ecosystem and not rainforests. Even when an article is referring to littoral rainforests that happen to be in NSW, the links are usually less than helpful. The point of links is to clarify terms and provide additional information about concepts that the reader is unfamiliar with. As such a link to the "Littoral" article is going to clarify the term much better than a link to "Littoral Rainforests of New South Wales", which does not even explain what a littoral forest is.

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I disagree with you. Practically all Littoral Rainforest relevant to Australia are in the state of New South Wales. Poyt448 (talk) 22:22, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Three points.

First, I doubt that is in any way correct. According to Federal Dept. of Environment's "Littoral Rainforest and Coastal Vine Thickets of Eastern Australia" the community occurs from "Northern Queensland south to Eastern Victoria... in the following bioregions: Cape York Penisnula, Wet Tropics, Central Mackay Coast, South Eastern Queensland, NSW North Coast, Sydney Basin, South East Corner." IOW most of it occurs in Queensland bioregions. The publication comes with a map that quite clearly demonstrates that at least 50% of the ecosystem in Eastern Australia occurs in Queensland. And that is without taking into account the widespread littoral rainforest of the NT and WA. So I find it hard to believe that "practically all" occurs in NSW. You will need to produce evidence for me to believe such a claim.

Secondly, even if what you claim could be verified, it still does not make it correct to claim that, for example, Drypetes deplancheii only grows in Littoral Rainforests of New South Wales. So long as it grows in even a tiny remnants of littoral rainforest outside NSW, it is incorrect to make the claim that the littoral rainforest that it grows in is Littoral Rainforest in New South Wales.

Thirdly, even if practically all littoral Rainforest relevant to Australia are in the state of New South Wales, the links remain less than helpful. The point of links is to clarify terms and provide additional information about concepts that the reader is unfamiliar with. As such a link to the "Littoral" article is going to clarify the term much better than a link to "Littoral Rainforests of New South Wales", which does not even explain what a littoral forest is.Mark Marathon (talk) 22:51, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't agree with your remarks, they are bordering on vexatious. Let's move on to something else. Poyt448 (talk) 01:13, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

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Dear Margaret, thank you for contacting me. The reference in the article is correct. I have the book in front of me now. It is the revised third edition, published in 2003, page 277. kind regards, Peter Poyt448 (talk) 06:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

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