User talk:Praetonia

Worker's compensation/wage charts
the "real compensation" chart is beyond misleading because not every job gets compensation (small businesses etc.) also you seem to have it backwards, the "compensation" is just increasing employer health care spending on employees (healthcare benefits as compensation) which doesn't in any way show that healthcare quality is increasing.

Wages are before spending, they're the payment you get, there's no way to intentionally decrease wages unless you ask for a wage reduction. What you seem to be getting confused are wages with income, which can change depending on how someone spends their money.

I'll give you some examples of why compensation is pointless:


 * Nobody tries to justify things like Neoliberalism, Monetarism etc. with "real compensation" but many people do criticize those policies by pointing to declining real wages (in fact I cited people's criticism and you replaced it).
 * Private healthcare spending (healthcare benefits) has grown considerably since 1990 so by definition compensation will always increase (source)
 * Families are spending less on basic needs such as food, clothing etc. then they did in 1970 Figure 5 page 16 (note this is in real median income which has gone up since the 70s)
 * No one uses the Fed's definition of "real compensation". CartoonDiablo (talk) 20:10, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Falkland Islands
I have reverted your changes on the Falkland Islands. The opening paragraph was achieved after long discussion to achieving a consensus and changes to it are reverted on sight. Please also note that there is a note in the header to this effect.

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The first sentence has been established as a compromise consensus between many editors in a long and difficult discussion (see talk page). Trying to change the sentence will be reverted on sight without discussion by many of the editors part of the discussion. If you have overriding NEW arguments, please bring them to the talk page first! Also note that the NPOV tag is in place because this text and its sentiments are in dispute.

Please do not change it without discussing on the talk page. Justin talk 14:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

The opening paragraph is factually wrong (Islas Malvinas is not Spanish for "Falkland Islands," it is Spanish for "Malouine Islands"). I do not need to approval of some ignorant propagandists in order to make such a change. Praetonia (talk) 20:53, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I would suggest you read WP:NPOV and while you're at it WP:NPA and WP:AGF. Referring to other editors as "ignorant propagandists" is not a good way to start on Wikipedia.  Also what you appear to be doing is called edit warring, please refer to WP:3RR.  Whilst you are welcome to become involved in the project engaging in edit wars and personal attacks is a fast track to a ban on wikipedia.  Justin talk 22:38, 20 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Facts are not a matter of perspective, my POV is irrelevent. The article says that the sentence is a "compromise". If you are compromising over matters of fact, well that is just propagandism. If wikipedia wants to ban any dissenting view then fine, it is private property afterall, but it can hardly then claim to be open source and a true community effort. Praetonia (talk) 23:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wargame: European Escalation


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Speedy deletion nomination of Wargame: European Escalation


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Nomination of Wargame: European Escalation for deletion
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