User talk:PresN/Archive 12

Testing the waters on Blood Knights
I've been doing articles on XBLA games for several years now, and I've been getting better it over time. I've recently brought Blood Knights up to GA level, and it's the first article I've done that I feel might been a viable candidate for Featured Article. Before I move forward with that, however, I wanted to ask you and a few other people that are involved in video game FACs what their thoughts are on the matter. In short, does the article have a realistic chance of going through FAC successfully? How much work would it take to be at that level? Your thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated.  S ven M anguard  Wha?  22:07, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Seiken Densetsu 3
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Seiken Densetsu 3 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ugog Nizdast -- 18:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup error
Hi there- this is just a quick note to apologise for a small but important mistake in the last WikiCup newsletter; it is not 64 users who will progress to the next round, but 32. J Milburn (talk) 18:43, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Seiken Densetsu 3
The article Seiken Densetsu 3 you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Seiken Densetsu 3 for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ugog Nizdast -- Ugog Nizdast (talk) 19:41, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

New article: can you help?
I am working on a new article for the soundtracks of Final Fantasy XIV and its reboot/remake/sequel A Realm Reborn. Since you seem to know a lot about putting music articles together and I don't, could you help me with this? What I've got now is extremely early on and should absolutely not be taken as the final work. --ProtoDrake (talk) 11:21, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Finally! I've been waiting years for it to come into fruition. Was gonna comment on that too but I do believe I've made at least two threads on your page relating to it so my beat a dead horse? GamerPro64  18:00, 14 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Looking at it, it's hardly perfect, but I've put new articles out in far worse condition. I think we can safely do it, and it shouldn't be long before we can upgrade it to GA standard. Thank you for all your help. I'm just hoping my next GAN goes as well as creating this article as done. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:08, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

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Re:Barnstar
Huge thanks! It means a lot to me. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 16:56, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Advice needed
Hi, PresN, I think I need advice. After this year's E3 has come and gone (I have high hopes of new developments there), I'm thinking of putting Fabula Nova Crystallis Final Fantasy up as a GAN (it's by no means a solid plan: Drakengard in general is far higher and more concrete on my long-term priority list). I've been doing a little work on it today, and it's looking alright. But I'm still not happy with the "Titles" section. It seems too clunky, and it's not helped by the nature of the series. I tried modelling it after the article for Kingdom Hearts, but it's still not right. It isn't linked by common gameplay or a single story. All that unites it is that mythos, which is covered as thoroughly as it can be in another section. The trouble is, since I can't find any comparable article or series in Wikipedia, I don't know how to rearrange or rewrite it. Could you give advice, and maybe lend a helping hand? I'm seriously hoping to get this article to FA someday. --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:36, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

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Potential GAN
Okay, something different. User:Judgesurreal777 contacted me and suggested I put some of the articles I had worked on a lot up for GA review. Among those he pointed out in a later post was Music of Final Fantasy XIV. As you were also a substantial contributor to this article, I felt that I should consult you about the article's viability for nomination before taking any steps in the matter. So, do you think we could safely take it to that stage? --ProtoDrake (talk) 07:42, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I'd rather you took charge of Music of Final Fantasy XIV. I only want so many GA reviews to deal with, and I couldn't have done it without your help and you motivated me while I searched for the references (some were bloody difficult to find). --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Teeny, tiny secret: neither have I, anymore than I've played any of the Drakengard games. My knowledge is through second-hand observation and research online. Anyway, thanks for the offer. I'll probably take you up on that. --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

re: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Deathrow (video game)/archive1#Image_review_by_PresN
Hey PresN, there's a reply for you at Featured article candidates/Deathrow (video game)/archive1, when you have a moment czar ♔ 12:43, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 April newsletter
Round 3 of the 2014 WikiCup has just begun; 32 competitors remain. Pool G's was Round 2's highest scorer, with a large number of featured picture credits. In March/April, he restored star charts from Urania's Mirror, lithographs of various warships (such as SMS Gefion) and assorted other historical media. Second overall was Pool E's, whose featured list Silver certificate (United States) contains dozens of scans of banknotes recently promoted to featured picture status. Third was Pool G's who has produced a large number of good articles, many, including Falkner Island, on Connecticut-related topics. Other successful participants included, who saw three articles (including the top-importance Ian Smith) through featured article candidacies, and , who saw three lists (including the beautifully-illustrated list of plantations in West Virginia) through featured list candidacies. High-importance good articles promoted this round include narwhal from, tiger from and The Lion King from. We also saw our first featured topic points of the competition, awarded to and  for their work on the Sega Genesis topic. No points have been claimed so far for good topics or featured portals.

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WPVG indie cat
Do you know how long it'll take for the WPVG template to update? I tried purging the caches but I'm seeing no new categories on articles such as Talk:Fez (video game) czar ♔ 00:54, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

FA congratulations
Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of Infinity Blade to FA status recently. If you would like to see this (or any other FA) appear as "Today's featured article" soon, please nominate it at the requests page; if you'd like to see an FA on a particular date in the next year or so, please add it to the "pending" list. In the absence of a request, the article may end up being picked at any time (although with 1,301 articles in Category:Featured articles that have not appeared on the main page at present, there's no telling how long – or short! – the wait might be). You (and your talk-page stalkers) may also be interested to hear that there have been some changes at the TFA requests page recently. Nominators no longer need to calculate how many "points" an article has, the instructions have been simplified, and there's a new nomination system using templates based on those used for DYK suggestions. Please consider nominating another article, or commenting on an existing nomination, and leaving some feedback on your experience. If you'd got any TFA-related questions or problems, please let me know. BencherliteTalk 09:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Good Article exchange
Hi! I was wondering if you wanted to do a Good Article review exchange. I would like Alfred V. Verville to be reviewed and I see you need Music of Final Fantasy XIV to be reviewed. Agreed? Nasa-verve (talk) 20:19, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Deathrow FAC
Hey PresN—would you have the time to expand your image review into a full review? I'm looking for additional thoughts on the FAC. czar ♔ 13:10, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

TFA
Congratulations on the Thatgamecompany TFA. Definitely well deserved. I remember copyediting that article way back when—fun times. It'll be cool to see a game studio on the front page. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:15, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment
Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Congrats Pres...
Got a fun new thread on the main talk page involving your article. GamerPro64 22:00, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

GamerPro64
He suggested that I looked for you. I'm working on the Sleeping Dogs article, which is nominated for GA. There's a couple of things that need to be worked on in the article, and I was wondering if you'd be interested. It's mostly reference stuff. URDNEXT (talk) 18:08, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

chocobo games
hi presn, please note that there are some errors in the way you handled the "dokodemo chokobo" portion of this article

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chocobo_media

dokodemo chokobo 2 and 3 are not two part-apps like dokodemo chokobo 1. dc1 was two-games-in-one, while dc2 and dc3 were just single games where the first segments came preinstalled on the phones and the second segments, called "sequel", could be downloaded separately on the same day the game was released.

and as you can see here

http://stoical.egoism.jp/game/chocobo/chocobo.htm

and in other references i can't find anymore, dokodemo chokobo 2.5 isn't the "sequel" part of dc2, but is just a "normal" sequel of the game, released in february 19 2004

you mistakenly changed the dc2.5 release date here

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Chocobo_media&diff=589186746&oldid=585980401

and then removed the entry here

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Chocobo_media&diff=590881681&oldid=590715808

would you please correct these errors? --SquallLeonhart_ITA (talk) 22:17, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

dokodemo chokobo 3.5 doesn't exist, there are the first part and the "sequel" part of dokodemo chokobo 3, the first part and the "sequel" part of dokodemo chokobo 2, and another game, dokodemo chokobo 2.5, which is a separate game (a true sequel) continuing the story of dokodemo chokobo 2. the "false sequels" were just the second parts of the games, with the same title and available on the same release date. dc 2.5 had a different title and was released almost a year later than dc2.the only other reference i found is here

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/hinata_hoko/e/a3d4162aba24da3399cc806f75dc6456

the japanese wikipedia has a separate article for dokodemo chokobo, describing it as a series of four games: dc1, dc2 divided into two parts, dc2.5 single part, and dc3 divided into two parts.

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%81%A9%E3%81%93%E3%81%A7%E3%82%82%E3%83%81%E3%83%A7%E3%82%B3%E3%83%9C

unfortunately there are no more links on the internet about どこでもチョコボ2・5 潜入! 古代遺跡 (you can search on google)--SquallLeonhart_ITA (talk) 14:26, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Potential XIII GTN update
Lightning Returns has passed its GA review. Now we can go ahead with nominating the articles concerned with Final Fantasy XIII (XIII, XIII-2, those two's music articles Lightning Returns, Characters and Lightning herself) as a Good Topic. I don't think there's enough information on the music of Lightning Returns to make an article: I put everything I could find in the section that's there now. --ProtoDrake (talk) 16:02, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Request for help
I've just put together a soundtrack section for Final Fantasy Type-0. It's as complete as possible for the moment apart from track lists, which I really can't get my head round properly. You seem better at them, so could you please help and put them in? --ProtoDrake (talk) 16:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:19, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

You've got mail!
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Sleeping Dogs
Excuse me, are you available for contributing to the Sleeping Dogs (video game) page? It's almost at GA, and you don't need to know anything about it; just knowing how to edit. Contact me if yes. URDNEXT (talk) 16:27, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

The colors
So I'm here working on List of million-selling game consoles, and on paper, the colored key I came up with sounded good. After implementation though, I'm not too certain lol. What do you think? « Ryūkotsusei » 22:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I need to remember to try fading. Also, you know no one wants to hear anything more about Sega. « Ryūkotsusei » 00:46, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Featured article candidates/Anachronox/archive1
First off, thanks for directing me to File Upload Wizard which helped me upload File:Anachronox gameplay.jpg. But since I uploaded a new image for the article to replace the original gameplay image in the article, I believe that means that you have to do an Image Review on that image as well. Would it be possible for you to do that for this one? GamerPro64 03:50, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for having a second look on the images. I believe I made the proper corrections to the FUR and shrank the image down the the proper size. GamerPro64  02:07, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Improving Transistor (video game) to FA.
I had checked out this article for the game Transistor (developed by Supergiant Games, who created Bastion), and it's in poor shape: Gameplay details overshadowed by plot section, too little information about the development and reception, and not enough references. I want you to improve the "Transistor (video game)" article to GA status, then you can take it up to FA quality. This task may seem interesting because you had taken the article "Bastion (video game)" to FA, and both Bastion and Transistor were developed by Supergiant. }I Mr* &#124; (60nna) I{ 14:08, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

FA
Hey man, I'm working on the Super Mario Bros. 3's page and I was wondering what you think of it, considering I'm planning on taking it to FA. Cheers! URDNEXT (talk) 16:01, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 June newsletter
After an extremely close race, Round 3 is over. 244 points secured a place in Round 4, which is comparable to previous years- 321 was required in 2013, while 243 points were needed in 2012. Pool C's was the round's highest scorer, mostly due to a 32 featured pictures, including both scans and photographs. Also from Pool C, finished second overall, claiming three featured articles, including the high-importance Grus (constellation). Third place was Pool B's, whose contributions included featured articles Russian battleship Poltava (1894) and Russian battleship Peresvet. Pool C saw the highest number of participants advance, with six out of eight making it to the next round.

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Your GA nomination of Music of Final Fantasy XIV
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Music of Final Fantasy XIV you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Czar -- Czar (talk) 01:42, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Sock
I think Avalagatie is back:. Same MO.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 07:09, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Seattle Wiknic invitation
Will you join us? Meetup/Seattle/Wiknic/2014. --Pine✉ 17:47, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q2 2014
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Favre1fan's review
Hey PresN. I have that review for you if you would be so kind as to do one. It is for Marvel One-Shots. I have personally nominated this one, as a main contributor to the page. I also have another GA nom just up, for which I am just a major contributor (Captain America: The Winter Soldier). If you have any interest in reviewing CapTWS as well, that would also be appreciated. Thanks and congrats on your list becoming a featured list! - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:46, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Music of Final Fantasy XIV
The article Music of Final Fantasy XIV you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Music of Final Fantasy XIV for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Czar -- Czar (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2014 (UTC)

Featured Topics and the Signpost
So I was looking through the archives of the Signpost to read anything they had on Featured Topics and came across this little number. Besides it showing how much the process has changed over the years, I found it interesting to see you being the one who wrote it up. GamerPro64 21:49, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah I do my best to keep the project running as strongly as it is. Requesting delegation for FTC was probably the best idea to keep it relevant. Though I do think Wizardman helped significantly while he was still a delegate. But seeing how much it changed is something. Especially the percentile to be a Featured Topic changing other and other. I only remember it being 33% before increasing. GamerPro64  00:23, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you so much for the quick review and pass! That has to be the fastest GA nom I've ever been involved with! - Favre1fan93 (talk) 19:35, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Tips
Hey man, do you have any tips for new editors like me on the site? Thanks. URDNEXT (talk) 21:16, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Lightning consultation needed (from someone whose feeling biased)
I am thinking of bringing Lightning up as FAN at some point in the future (not the near-future mark you, as I want to take it easy for a while in the article nomination department) and I need another opinion on it. Apart from the usual things, there's something else: the article on Aerith Gainsborough has a section concerning the character's music, and as comments have been made on Lightning's leitmotif Blinded by Light, should there be a section for it there, or is the article looking too big already? I realize that I may have been obsessing over this article a bit, but I want it to be as good as it possibly can be. And anyway, bringing a character article to featured status is a nice challenge. But I definitely need more input from other users, and since you're the other main XIII contributor... --ProtoDrake (talk) 09:11, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the opinion. I wasn't actually planning on including it seriously, but I just wanted to check. --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:28, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

IGTM GT/FT
Hey—for my next trick, I was considering working on the Indie Game: The Movie article and bringing the topic to at least "good" status. Since you worked on Super Meat Boy, I wanted to see whether you'd be interested in bringing Edmund McMillen and Tommy Refenes's articles to GA for such a project. Thoughts? czar ♔   13:23, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Listline dateline
I'm trying to find the page that discusses article sections written in the "On X date, Y. On Z date, W." format. I knew the phenomenon but not that such a page existed until recently when someone reposted it in a WPVG discussion. Now I don't recall where or who posted it, but might it have been you? czar ♔   14:47, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * the "listline" reminded me of the right name- Proseline. Don't know who posted it at WT:VG though. -- Pres N  17:19, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
 * That's it—thanks! (By the way, it was ) czar ♔   17:50, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Music of Final Fantasy XIV
The article Music of Final Fantasy XIV you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Music of Final Fantasy XIV for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Czar -- Czar (talk) 01:22, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

XIV Ms up to GT member?
Now that the article for XIV music has become a GA, can it be added to the Final Fantasy Music Good Topic? Or do we need to jump through hoops for that to happen? --ProtoDrake (talk) 11:03, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Just wondering. And on that note, if an article within a topic, say the Final Fantasy XIII Topic, was upgraded from GA to FA, is it just a case of upgrading the symbols in the topic box, or is that a process of resubmitting? I'm asking because Lightning Returns will likely be upgraded at some point in the future, and I'm planning for Lightning to get the golden star. --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:16, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Question
I noticed that you just blocked for the 4th time a user I knew in the past. I did not really watched him for a long time, but I do have a question to you about this. Could you please answer? Thanks, My very best wishes (talk) 03:01, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Sleeping Dogs
Hey, Pres, how's it going! I was wondering if you could help me with Sleeping Dogs (video game) since I really need help with it. Ever since I joined Wiki I have been trying to tackle the article alone but I can't seem to do it by myself wit the amount of experience I have. Is there any way you could help me take it to GA? I know you usually only edit Military related articles, but this one is rated B class so it should be an easy thing for both of us. What do you think? Thanks for everything in advance, URDNEXT (talk) 12:35, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Feedback request
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Permanent_death. If you could spare a few minutes of your time to help us determine whether of not Path of Exile belongs on the list of games featuring permanent death, we'd be much obliged. Thanks. I really need that username (talk) 19:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Staying on top of things
I am glad you are keeping the Snakes in the grass under heal. They have been a source of distraction to far too many busy Wikipedians such as yourself and need to be addressed within wikipedia guidelines which they Wikilawyer to allow their rudeness and refusal to work cooperatively. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:11, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Commons deletion
I am notifying you since you were the image reviewer at Featured article candidates/McCormick Tribune Plaza & Ice Rink/archive1. File:The Bean and McCormick Tribune Plaza.jpg is part of a mass deletion at Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Cloud Gate (note that you have to scroll down past a couple of closed discussions at the top).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Good articles Future GAN Backlog Drive
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Secret of Mana sources
Hi PresN. I don't know if you saw my reply at my talk page, but I don't have the Nintendo Official Magazine sources you requested. It looks like User:Ashnard has them instead. I do have some material covering the game in Diehard GameFan, though. So here are those sources:


 * Halverson, Dave, ed. "Viewpoint - The Secret of Mana." Diehard GameFan. Issue 12 (Vol.1, No.12). Pg.22. November 1993.
 * Pg.22
 * Halverson, Dave, ed. "Planet SNES - Secret of Mana." Diehard GameFan. Issue 12 (Vol.1, No.12). Pp.78-80. November 1993.
 * Pg.78
 * Pg.79
 * Pg.80

The material on pages 78-80 may not be as helpful as I'd hoped. They are printed in the section where reviews are normally found so I expected a review, but this is more like a walk-through... The scoring chart on Pg.22 may be more helpful, though. Let me know if it's too blurry and I can clarify any words. The scoring system for GameFan is such that 4 staff members individually rate the game and then all 4 scores are printed. This is similar to ho Famitsu does its cross reviews if you're familiar with that magazine. The four scores for this review are credited (in order from left to right) to Skid, Sgt. Gamer, K. Lee, and The Enquirer. "Skid" is the nom de plume of Dave Halverson, "K. Lee" is Kelly Rickards, and "The Enquirer" is Andrew Cockburn. Good luck with the article and I hope this is useful to you. -Thibbs (talk) 00:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)


 * You know what, I just found a Secret of Mana "prescreen" (AKA preview) in the December 1993 issue of Edge. It's not in the article yet, but it may have some development info. Secret of Mana is also the cover story for Retro Gamer #85. I'll try to make both of these available for you tomorrow. And I'll dig through a few other magazines to see what I can find. -Thibbs (talk) 01:13, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry time got a little bit away from me today. Here's the December 1993 Edge article: I'll get the Retro Gamer piece to you by tomorrow. It's about the whole Seiken Densetsu series, but hopefully it will have some good info. -Thibbs (talk) 01:52, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Jarrat, Steve, ed. "Prescreen: Secret of Mana." Edge. No.3. Pp.22-23. December 1993.
 * Pg.22
 * Pg.23

Et voila: Let me know if you need more and I can look further. I have some Famitsus from 1993 so there may be some coverage there as well. -Thibbs (talk) 12:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Day, Ashley. "Featured: The Secrets of Mana." Retro Gamer. No.85. Pp.24-31. February 2011.
 * Pg.24
 * Pg.25
 * Pg.26
 * Pg.27
 * Pg.28
 * Pg.29
 * Pg.30
 * Pg.31

Talk page archiving
Hopefully I'm not being TOO bold, but I just helped by archiving your user talk threads up to March 2014; it should help both you and your visitors with accessibility, and I deliberately chose a cutoff point far enough that there should have been no premature archiving. I also respected your previous mode of archiving by copypasting the threads to a new archive and adding a link to it under your "Archive" collapse. If you don't like it, feel free to revert! Hopefully you don't mind me too much; I know it's generally bad to mess with the userpages of others but I assume this is being helpful. :D ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  01:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Niemti
Didn't knew that SNAAAAKE!! had a previous name. If possible, you can edit the WP:EDR where he had been mentioned. I don't know if we are allowed to add multiple names though. Thanks  Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 19:34, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Niemti changed username but many people still call him Niemti. We should leave WP:EDR under "Niemti" and mention the new username also. By the way,, you can use the unicode double-exclamation-mark character ‼ to avoid breaking the table, like we did with MKDD. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  02:05, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks both.  Occult Zone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 03:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I did fix it today, by the way. ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  02:27, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

In case you haven't found it yet
Here (alt with better formatting) is the LEVEL article from issue 6, translated into English. If you're concerned about the reliability of the translation, just ask a Wikipedian who speaks Swedish to verify the relevant passages. Chrono Compendium has been used as a source in FAs before, though, so it should be fine. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 20:41, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Re:Barnstar
Big, big thanks. I actually came on to message you about that FAC. Congratulations on yet another quality FA—and major props for the amazing job you did handling my review. I'm aware that I can be the Reviewer from Hell (I'm certain that my ridiculous Resident Evil 2 prose review contributed to User:Prime Blue's departure from the project), but you trooped on. I'm glad to hear that you thought it was worthwhile in the end. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 02:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, if you need help with sourcing Legend of Mana (which I see you're working on), my Official PlayStation Magazines, Next Generations and Electronic Gaming Monthlies are at your disposal. I haven't gotten around to indexing the EGMs from that period yet, but I'd be willing to flip through them manually if necessary. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 23:07, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Re:Legend of Mana sources
Ahead of the scans, which should be up later tonight, here are some online LOM sources that might be useful. (Three of the OPMs you asked for are available in the Internet Archive.) There are solid details about the game and its production timeline in these, but nothing concrete about its development. Ditto for all of the material I have yet to scan. From my Googling, it seems that your best bet might be the Ultimania companion book, which I saw used as a development source on the JAWP LOM article. Good luck finding it, though. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 03:34, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * OPM June 1999
 * OPM July 1999
 * OPM September 1999
 * Game Informer preview
 * Game Informer news story
 * Game Informer news story 2
 * Game Informer news story 3
 * If all else fails with regard to Ultimania, you could always bug a Japanese speaker to translate it for you. It probably won't be an issue unless you attempt FAC, though. Here are the scans. Images are linked in the templates for convenience; obviously, not for use in the article itself.
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hopefully you can get something out of these. I didn't have OPM August 2000, so the final scan is from OPM's 2002 guide to all of their PSOne RPG reviews. It features LOM's original score combined with a short review summary. Good luck. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 08:48, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

EarthBound composers
I'm trying to figure out what to do with Keiichi Suzuki (composer) and Hirokazu Tanaka's articles. Do you have any ideas for finding information on Japanese composers? czar ♔   23:23, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Dunno about the first, but Hip Tanaka is also the president of Creatures Inc., I'd imagine he's given interviews about that at least (although potentially in Japanese). ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  23:34, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Tanaka interviews at, , and ; official website at . Found these by checking out VGMOnline (formerly Square Enix Music Online)'s biography page (not in and of itself a reliable source) at , then jumping through to his VGMDB (user-generated, so non-RS) to see if there were more links there. Suzuki doesn't seem to have given a lot of interviews in English; found his website though- . -- Pres N  01:45, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

I'm not as familiar with VGMOnline. Want to take this one? czar ♔   00:44, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * , - Lets try to keep all of the discussion in one place, so I'm pinging you both to here. Anyway, WP:VG/RS says that SEMO/VGMO is considered a reliable source for their interviews and album reviews/information, but not for their biography pages. If I remember correctly, this is because their bio pages are just basically an unreferenced wikipedia article that merges together a bunch of (uncited) sources. Editors are encouraged to instead track down those sources and cite them directly. That said, it's been years and years since that entry was made, and I can see arguments that if Greening is fact-checking those bios then they could be cited- not to mention that SEMO/VGMO has grown more and more reliable as a source as time has gone by. Dissident93- you mention in your revert edit summary that "Chris Greening directly contacts all of the people he writes for" - any proof of that or that he edits/factchecks the biographies? -- Pres  N  01:13, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * GMO does cite their sources, check the bottom of the profile pages. Greening does directly contact many of the composers (as do some of the other staff on the site, as seen with the photo here), but you are also correct in saying that he mainly fact checks other sources and compiles them from there. Because of this, I've replaced the references on the Hirokazu Tanaka page with the original sources.
 * And secondly, how can album reviews/information from SEMO/GMO be a reliable source, but not VGMdb? There are a lot of factual errors on SEMO due to VGMdb not existing at the time. 95% of the info submitted to VGMdb comes directly from the liner notes of the albums, and a lot of the info there can't be found anywhere else on the web. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:41, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * VGMdb isn't reliable because it's user-submitted- I've contributed some stuff myself. It's certainly the most accurate source by far, and I trust it implicitly, but a user-submitted site can't be an RS. Do note that you can cite the liner notes of an album directly, for information like about which composer did which track; if its factual information that's on the album itself its fine to source it directly if you can't find a more easily available source. -- Pres N  02:29, 6 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 02:49, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

GA Cup
Hello everyone! We hope you have all been having a great summer!

As we all know, the recent GAN Backlog Drives have not had any big impact on the backlog. Because of that, me (Dom497), Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor have worked on an idea that could possibly finally put a dent into the massive backlog. Now, I will admit, the idea isn't entirely ours as we have took the general idea of the WikiCup and brought it over to WikiProject Good Articles. But anyways, here's what we have in mind:

For all of you that do not know what the WikiCup is, it is an annual competition between several editors to see who can get the most Good Articles, Featured Article's, Did You Know's, etc. Based of this, we propose to you the GA Cup. This competition will only focus on reviewing Good articles.

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WikiCup 2014 August newsletter
The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
 * 1) is a WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist every year since 2010. In the semi-final, he was Pool B's highest scorer. Cas's points primarily come from articles on the natural sciences.
 * 2) was Pool A's runner-up. Czar's points come mostly from content related to independent video games, including both articles and topics.
 * 3) was Pool B's runner-up. Another featured picture specialist, many of Adam's points come from the restoration of historical media. He has been a WikiCup finalist twice before.
 * 4) won the WikiCup in 2012 and 2013, and enters this final as the first wildcard. She focuses on biology-related articles, and has worked on several high-importance articles.
 * 5) is the second wildcard. George's points come primarily from meteorology-related articles. This year and last year, George was the first person in the competition to score.
 * , the third wildcard, was the 2010 champion and a finalist last year. His writes mostly on military history, especially naval history.
 * , the fourth and final wildcard, has participated in previous WikiCups, but not reached any finals. Bloom's points are mostly thanks to did you knows, featured lists and good articles related to sport and national symbols.

We say goodbye to this year's semi-finalists. ,, , , , and  have all performed well to reach this stage of the competition, and we hope they will all be joining us again next year.

There are two upcoming competitions unrelated to the WikiCup which may be of interest to those who receive this newsletter. The Stub Contest will run through September, and revolves around expanding stub articles, especially high-importance or old stubs. In addition, a proposal has been made for a new competition, the GA Cup, which the organisers plan to run next year. This competition is based on the WikiCup and aims to reduce the good article review backlog.

There is now a thread for brainstorming on how next year's WikiCup competition should work. Please come along and share your thoughts- What works? What doesn't work? What needs changing? Signups for next year's competition will be open soon; we will be in touch. If, at this stage of the competition, you are keen to help the with the WikiCup, please do what you can to participate in review processes. Our finalists will find things much easier if the backlogs at good article candidates, featured article candidates, featured picture candidates and the rest are kept at a minimum. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:09, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

FA congratulations (again)
Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of Secret of Mana to FA status recently. I know you know all about WP:TFAR (specific and non-specific date slots) and the "pending" list, so this is just a reminder to use them as and when suits you. Many thanks. BencherliteTalk 13:47, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Legend of Mana
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Sleeping Dogs FAC
Can you give some comments at the FAC? It would be hugely appreciated. Thanks! URDNEXT (talk) 23:53, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

G-Zay on the loose
That user G-Zay has created another sockpuppet. I suspect that the puppet has the same editing behavior as G-Zay on FFX and Yoshinori Kitase. Isn't it time to take action against it? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 07:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Help needed
I've just created an article for the music of the Drakengard series, but the DISPLAYTITLE gadget is being silly: it's not displaying the title properly, and there's a warning message in the first three subsections saying "Warning: Display title "Music of the Drakengard series" overrides earlier display title "Music of the Drakengard series"." Can you help? --ProtoDrake (talk) 17:24, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Infobox trouble? ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  19:26, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Yep, I fixed it for him. -- Pres N  19:28, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I remembered it had something to do with the Infobox but I was still looking for the exact problem. :p ☺ ·  Salvidrim!   ·  &#9993;  19:30, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Lightning Returns music
I've been having a little round and recently added information from an interview about the game's soundtrack. Looking at it now, the second is looking a little bulky. When do you think we could make an article concerning it that could become a GA in the future? I've noted that there are two reviews for the main soundtrack (plus a few mentions in normal reviews), one review for the Plus soundtrack, but nothing on the promotional Pre-Soundtrack album. There are also the three digital singles. If there isn't enough, we can leave it as it is, but I was looking at the article for X-2's soundtrack and thought that it managed with comparatively little when it came to soundtrack development. --ProtoDrake (talk) 13:59, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The article is in existence. In advance, the Final Fantasy World reference is a published interview conducted by the site and is the only place where the cited information can be found. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:01, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
 * On both a side and similar note, two things. The side not is that I found week-of-release Oricon rankings for the two main XIV soundtracks: Before Meteor and A Realm Reborn, and a review for A Realm Reborn OST. I'm not sure whether the first two will be relevant to the article. And on the similar note, when do you think we could take the LR Music article to GA so we can make the XIII GA Topic whole and complete once again?
 * Alert; LR Music article is under review right now. Please could you keep an eye in case I need help. I've never done anything like this before (a music GA I mean). Hoping for another pass. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:48, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2014 September newsletter
In one month's time, we will know our WikiCup 2014 champion. Newcomer has taken a strong lead with a featured list (historical coats of arms of the U.S. states from 1876) and a raft of featured pictures. Reigning champion is in second place with a number of high-importance biology articles, including new FA Isopoda and new GA least weasel. , who is in his fifth WikiCup final, is in third, with featured articles Pictor and Epacris impressa.

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Apologies
So, it looks like you've pulled off the WP:SE tag off of the last few articles I created (Chaos Rings 3 and The Legend of Legacy) Sorry about that, I didn't realize you guys were so particular as to what was put under the project's umbrella. Didn't mean to cause extra work or seem obstinate or anything. Sergecross73  msg me  15:10, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

The WikiProject Video Games Newsletter, Q3 2014
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Coin945s iOS articles
I request that all the notable articles you've redirected you instead take to afd. The communal discussion will give the articles a chance to actually be improved, which is a very efficient way of improving the 'pedia.-Coin945 (talk) 11:44, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * AfD is only for deletion discussions and it is not for cleanup. If the nominator doesn't have the intent of deleting the article, it shouldn't be brought there. Anyone who wants to expand a redirect can go for it. AfD shouldn't be used as a pretense to cleanup an article. It's not fair to put the burden of making an article minimally presentable on other editors (whether at AfD or in any other forum), especially when the original author knows how to write a few basic sentences on the topic to assert its notability (so as not to require the systemic input from other users). This is all to say that I don't think anyone would have as much of an issue with the rampant stubbing as long as each article took some effort to minimally describe the gameplay and reception as more than copy-pasted Metacritic snippets. czar ♔   13:55, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Whether or not you like how small each of those stubs are, they are on notable games and there is enough there to assert notability. If you understand that having a Metacritic article means at the very least 4 critics have analysed/reviewed/critiqued the game, then you have no justification behind getting rid of it. Going for breadth over depth, of course none of these articles are going to be GA right off the bat. Many editors artificially buff up articles by adding tonnes of unreferences trivia. I haven't done that and have instead included only a few lines that concisely give the basic facts - exactly what Wikipedia should have at this stage. Unfortunately many editors here would rather delete or redirect rather than click the edit button and actually improve. These are dark times for Wikipedia...--Coin945 (talk) 14:42, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Coin, it's hypocritical to say that WP is in dark times because editors redirect instead of writing the article when you, yourself, chose to write one-sentence stubs instead of writing the articles. As the community has responded, we have a clear consensus to redirect or move one-sentence articles on topics of borderline notability rather than leaving them as dozens of stubs. My comment was merely about the point of AfD. I'll add that even with four-critic reviews, if the coverage is still weak or unreliable, the topic may be better off deleted than kept. We're just asking that a little more care is taken when creating these. It shouldn't be seen as a slight on you, and hopefully you could modify your practices to match community consensus czar ♔   14:53, 10 October 2014 (UTC)


 * You created about 150 2-line stubs. Upon being told that you needed to do a bit better than that if you were going to create an article, something you know perfectly well since you work at Articles for Creation, you agreed to go back and expand them a bit- not into GAs, but into a solid stub. First you went through about 15-20 and added a few quotes from reviews (but not, say, a description of what genre of game it was). Upon further complaints, you now at least add that, plus an infobox (though not categories, or the right stub tag). To... about 10 articles. Leaving over 100 of your original 2-line stubs behind. You then... kind of stopped cleaning up your mess, and just worked on one article in a draft. Only now that I'm redirecting articles as I come across them in a cleanup category are you complaining, and after doing 5 or so, you're now complaining not just that I shouldn't redirect them, but that I should take them to AfD so that other people will fix them for you. You're still trying to make other people do the work to get your articles to a bare minimum state while refusing to actually put in the work yourself. Heck, you still won't actually tag your article's talk pages after being asked several times, we're having to follow your contributions list to find them.
 * Tl;dr: you've shown that you care so little about these 2-line articles that you are completely unwilling to clean them up to an acceptable minimum standard. No, I'm not going to try to beg other people on your behalf to clean them up for you. -- Pres N  15:26, 10 October 2014 (UTC)


 * These aren't my articles. I am merely one fleshy being who has decided to try to help Wikipedia so had done his little bit. Of course I can't greatly improve every single one of these articles all my myself. That is what a community is for. We work *together* to help this Wikipedia grow. And if that means some articles start off as stubs, then so be it. That is the Wikipedia philosophy. I am not asking other people to improve my articles. I am asking the community to come together to improve Wikipedia's articles.--Coin945 (talk) 15:55, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * It is disrespectful of this so-called community to insinuate that others should share your prerogative. No one "makes" anyone else do their bidding, and you would feel just as encroached upon if I were to ask you to clean up (or expand) a bunch of one-sentence stubs from another era. The WP philosophy is to build articles together with as little friction as possible. It should be abundantly clear at this point that the one-sentence stub strategy creates unwanted friction. There are plenty of other ways to contribute that are mutually appreciated. czar ♔   21:40, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I expected a little more from the Video Games Wikiproject who are obviously more experienced in working on these types of articles than I. The infoboxes and categories and templates have been awesome - that's the sort of maintenance work I can never wrap my head around. But the notion that current article is more important than potential is something I absolutely believe goes against core Wikipedia principles. But whatever... it seems you guys have your own opinions on this issue and I'm not about to change them. I tend to hop about Wikipedia doing different things, and I've recently lost interest in iOS articles. I'm gonna do something else, maybe not on Wikipedia at all. Thanks for everything. :)--Coin945 (talk) 23:02, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Image and source review - Master System
Hello, PresN. I wanted to start off by saying thank you for List of Sega video game consoles - I hope it passes soon, but it is quite well done and I am impressed. I know you have been very helpful in providing your feedback on some of my FACs before, and I was wondering if you might be willing to take some time to give Master System its required image and source reviews here. It is nearing the end of its FAC period and has had some substantial prose reviews so far, but could use some more actionable points to address. I appreciate all of your hard work and your contributions and reviews. Thank you, Red Phoenix let's talk... 12:06, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

BLP Discretionary sanctions notice
Dreadstar ☥   05:25, 14 October 2014 (UTC)


 * This notice relates to Gamergate controversy, Zoe Quinn, Anita Sarkeesian, and related articles, talk pages and edits, but note this this alert applies to all edits related to the area identified above. Dreadstar ☥   05:26, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Your Opinion on verified AMAs on Gamergate Controversy
Do you mind clarifying if your statement on AMAs applies to the verified female developer doing an AMA on reddit linked from this discussion? A few users are arguing on whether it is good enough for WP:RS and whether it is truly verified as defined by Wikipedia. Hyperflint (talk) 16:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Will You Consider Overturning My Ban?
Hi PresN, excuse me for ban-evading via an IP address to ask you to consider unbanning me, but I don't see any other choice. I was permanently blocked more than two years ago on charge of sockpuppetry, which I deny. I am asking you and three other administrators to look at it. I just picked you off the list, checking only that you were recently active.

I need to keep this invitation neutral, so the best thing is just to point you to my RFC/U (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Colton_Cosmic#Statement_of_the_dispute). I can't restrain myself from saying that the RFC/U was kidnapped by my long-term hounders, and that I was denied the ability to speak in my own defense (unheard of in RFC/Us and against their clear instructions.

I'll also risk saying, but judge for yourself, that I never socked Wikipedia, and that an injustice has been perpetrated against me.

I would answer your questions if I could but you'll have to unblock my talkpage, presumably a less-controversial act.

Colton Cosmic.

List of Sega video game consoles
Hi. Hope you're well. I recently finished the promotion of this article. Could you fix the "Pages using citations with accessdate and no URL" error on this page? Thanks, Cowlibob (talk) 18:31, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Sega list
Looks like I missed it, oops. I owe you one. Congrats on the FL.-- ɱ  (talk)  18:37, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014: The results
The 2014 WikiCup champion is, who flew the flag of the Smithsonian Institution. This was Godot13's first WikiCup competition and, over the 10 months of the competition, he has produced (among other contributions) two featured lists and an incredible 292 featured pictures, including architectural photographs and scans of historical documents. , 2012 and 2013 WikiCup champion, came in second, having written a large number of biology-related articles. , WikiCup finalist every year since 2010, finished in third.

A full list of our prize-winners follows:


 * wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 181 featured pictures in the final round.
 * wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 65 did you knows in the final round.
 * wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for four featured articles in the final round.
 * wins the prize for fourth place
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins the GA prize for 27 good articles in round 2 and the review prize for 28 good article reviews in round 1.
 * wins the FL prize for three featured lists in round 2.
 * wins the FPo prize his work on featured portals.
 * wins the topic prize for a nine-article featured topic in round 3.
 * wins the news prize for 28 in the news articles in round 3.

Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have participated this year. We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. and 22:52, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Dragon Warrior II
Page move is proposed; you are invited to discuss it there. --George Ho (talk) 03:54, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sword of Mana
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sword of Mana you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ProtoDrake -- ProtoDrake (talk) 18:40, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Music of the Drakengard series
I've been doing some work on the article in preparation for a future GA nomination. I was hoping that you could do some copy-editing on the article as that isn't my strongest suit. I did manage to find substitutes for the VGMdb references that were there, so that little hurdle has been cleared. --ProtoDrake (talk) 21:13, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sword of Mana
The article Sword of Mana you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sword of Mana for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of ProtoDrake -- ProtoDrake (talk) 21:23, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Mana topic
Really impressive work on the Mana topic so far. As I'm sure you know, you're only three GAs away from a(nother) GT—which is insane. Just wanted to let you know your (apparently tireless) efforts are noticed and appreciated. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 22:34, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Lightning FA update
An update concerning the FA nomination of said article. It's in the process of being promoted. Thank you hugely for the image review. --ProtoDrake (talk) 15:40, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Has the user stated that that is their account?
Referring to Loganmac. If they admit to it on site, like Ryulong has, then it's permitted. But if they have not, it falls afoul of WP:OUTING. Tutelary (talk) 22:38, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Checking Up
Just checking up on ya. Been following the GamerGate Arbitration and just wanted to make you if you're all right. GamerPro64 02:38, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 is just around the corner...
Hello everyone, and may we wish you all a happy holiday season. As you will probably already know, the 2015 WikiCup begins in the new year; there is still time to sign up. We have a few important announcements concerning the future of the WikiCup.


 * We would like to announce that Josh (J Milburn) and Ed (The ed17), who have been WikiCup judges since 2009 and 2010 respectively, are stepping down. This decision has been made for a number of reasons, but the main one is time. Both Josh and Ed have found that, over the previous year, they have been unable to devote the time necessary to the WikiCup, and it is not likely that they will be able to do this in the near future. Furthermore, new people at the helm can only help to invigorate the WikiCup and keep it dynamic. Josh and Ed will still be around, and will likely be participating in the Cup this following year as competitors, which is where both started out.
 * In a similar vein, we hope you will all join us in welcoming Jason (Sturmvogel 66) and Christine (Figureskatingfan), who are joining Brian (Miyagawa) to form the 2015 WikiCup judging team. Jason is a WikiCup veteran, having won in 2010 and finishing in fifth this year. Christine has participated in two WikiCups, reaching the semi-finals in both, and is responsible for the GA Cup, which she now co-runs.
 * The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. While it may be impossible to please everyone, the judges will make every effort to ensure that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Wikipedia.

If you have any questions or concerns, the judges can be reached on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, on their talk pages, or by email. We hope you will all join us in trying to make the 2015 WikiCup the most productive and enjoyable yet. You are receiving this message because you are listed on WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk), The ed17 (talk), Miyagawa (talk), Sturmvogel 66 (talk) and Figureskatingfan (talk) 18:54, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

Dragon Warrior listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dragon Warrior. Since you had some involvement with the Dragon Warrior redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 17:40, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
Hi.

Everytime I see an admin making such edits as revision #638327161, I am caught by complete surprise. I don't know why; somehow, I imagine admins as people who don't mistake. Anyway, the problem with your edit is not purposelessly moving some words around. (I never revert such edits because if I did, I'd be doing some purposeless moving myself.) It is the mistakes that is the ground for the revert.

You keep mentioning "the game" but what game? (You have forgotten to mention that FFVII is a video game.) Geostigma is not incurable; the film itself and On The Way to A Smile establish that. Cloud has not distanced himself because of Aerith's death; in fact, Marlene mentions exactly why in the Complete edition of the film. (Also, On The Way to A Smile mentions his work mandated that he remain away for prolonged periods of time.) But yes, he is nevertheless haunted.

By the way, you never need to insert an explicit § into the See also and its siblings. It automatically replaces # with §.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 16:37, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello again


 * It is great that you wish to improve the article to FA level; I will help; perhaps I will participate in its review too. I am even ready to be generous about how you interpret the story because, apparently, everyone is divided about it. But frankly, I've been in FACR before and I must say it is brutal. There are things that I cannot overlook:
 * Citations: Incorrect use of publisher and website/work is not tolerated. Example: GameSpot is a work/website. Its publisher is CBS Interactive. Destructoid is the website/work; its publisher is ModernMethod.
 * Citations: Article must consistently use either cite news or cite web for web citations; a mixture of both is not acceptable. Since 2014, these two accept virtually the same input and their output is almost the same but not completely. This is a point that is previously brought up by the former administrator Nikkimaria in two FAN discussions that I participated.
 * Clunky prose: FA is legendary for not accepting redundancies like repeatedly attributing the same thing to the "game" in the same paragraph successively. In addition, Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view, not from a neutralized point of view. e.g. Cloud and Sephiroth didn't oppose each other (that's what Wikipedians who love each other do); they fought to slit throat.
 * Blatant plot mistakes: I said I'd be generous about the plot, but that doesn't mean I'd accept mistakes like saying Marlene was a boy. The generosity extends to using Mako and Lifestream interchangeably once, referring to Aerith as Cloud's girlfriend (riot alert!) or calling the film either science fiction or science fantasy.
 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 23:40, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi.
 * Keeping the bullet points in their original places, I'd say:
 * Maybe they don't care because you did it fine, at least Secret of Mana looks good. I see "GamersPro. IDG." and "1UP. Ziff Davis." which is good. Well, let's just say I work with people who put "MSDN Blogs" in publisher.
 * Are you sure? Please look at this:
 * See? Inconsistent enough for FA. (Used to be far more inconsistent; Microsoft Security Essentials FA tore me a — Never mind.) Gets more inconsistent when parameters vary more.
 * No doubt. No doubt. I'm not defending the existing article. I tried my best when I took away its GA status. (Yeah. I'm the one whom you probably hate.) And reverts are very personal.
 * Not only do I assume good faith in you (which is not exclusive to you), I like you. So, no that's not what I meant. To cover up: No, these are not the list of your mistakes, these are just examples to show threshold of sensitivity. Again, no, I do not defend the existing prose. (I just gave up editing it seriously because I mainly work in the computing area.) As for the "damage to the planet" part, it was a mistake that was fixed; that's all. Know this: Malleus Fatorum reverted me almost 50 times in one day during the FA of Microsoft Security Essentials, and not being super-harsh with newcomer wasn't his best suit. If I had failed to assume good faith, User:Codename Lisa would now have been a mere statistic titled "Newcomers who left Wikipedia in agony". That's who were are.
 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 01:18, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 01:18, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

For what it's worth
Sorry to see you mixed up in this whole GamerGate article mess...frankly I've been keeping my hands off it myself due to my own opinions, though did at one point try to at least rebuild the damn thing from scratch. It's too complicated an issue for me to even want to tackle solo though.

That said while I'm pretty firmly on the 'pro' side of things, I've always respected you and valued your friendship on wikipedia. Just felt that should be said to you in light of any shitstorm going on.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 08:21, 17 December 2014 (UTC)