User talk:Pretty Pig

Hi
Would you like help to prevent those church articles being deleted? In ictu oculi (talk) 05:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi! Yes, of course I would like to help. It would seem like little or no research was done before the articles were nominated to be deleted. I don't know how the wikipedia system really works, but in the real world, it's normally the case whereby the defendant is innocent until proven guilty isn't it? Pretty Pig (talk) 05:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Haha, not with AfDs. I've done what I can by adding Google Book footnotes to 7 of the 8 articles. I think they are clearly notable. The one built in 1988 is too new to find sources, so I wonder, can you access Straits Times or something?
 * Also, here's a couple of helpful tips. Turn your user page blue, you will look better when posting. You can do this in 2 ways, add a REDIRECT in the format # REDIRECT [ [ User talk:Pretty Pig ] ]. Or.. just say "Hello this is User Pretty Pig from Singapore" - it looks much better. I will help you with the churches don't worry. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:28, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * No it's not. AFD doesn't deal with guilt. Take a step back and calm down. Challenging everyone that is disagreeing with you is problematic, accusing people of vandalism as previously warned is not acceptable as saying an edit war is being waged based on a single revert. Don't take AFD personally, I've written over 85 articles and even a few of mine have been nominated, one I even nominated myself [] in response to concerns of others. You're best bet to survive AFD is to not be WP:CONTENTIOUS and calmly state your facts as to why the article shouldn't be deleted. Also read WP:SNOW if it's a well aimed snowball it can be kept/deleted/merged. Many people here can and will have different opinions of what is notable. AFD is actually your best bet in these cases to get the material kept because it will show whether something is notable or not. I do see you're a new editor and this gets you a little more WP:ROPE then most but try not to use it all up now causeyou may need some of it later. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:34, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * In ictu oculi, I'm not too sure how to do that user formatting thing, where exactly do I place it? I was just wondering, how does the afd get decided in the end? Is it a voting system or will the administrator come at a later time to cast his decision? I should probably be able to find news of it in the straits times archives. Pretty Pig (talk) 05:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Hell In A Bucket, well, I'm sorry if I've offended you in any way. I'm not offended because my entry has been nominated. Rather, I'm more miffed with the fact that the only evidence cited is some wikipedia guide. Shouldn't the nominators be more proactive in explaining why they think such entries should be deleted? Afterall, they're the ones who want the articles to be removed. The onus should be on them to prove their case convincingly. Otherwise it feels pretty insincere. Pretty Pig (talk) 05:53, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The link to turn your User blue is http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pretty_Pig&action=edit&redlink=1 just type in #REDIRECTUser talk:Pretty Pig and click save. You should read some of those wikipedia guides later. In the meantime for these church articles, don't worry, I and others will hold your hand. Right now there's no urgency, you can relax a bit. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:58, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've found a Straits Times article about the church, but where do I place the link? In the article itself? Pretty Pig (talk) 06:04, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, using ref  http .... Title of article  / ref. Well done. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:05, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Again! Pretty Pig (talk) 06:18, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Not at all, your articles inspired me to create Holy Trinity Anglican Church (Singapore). In ictu oculi (talk) 06:22, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, and if you want to select a picture for your User page instead of redirect to Talk, here are some options, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Pigs_in_art have fun!. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:43, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's awesome! Thanks! I'm still learning the ropes. As of yet, I'm still unsure how to place photographs within the articles themselves. HahaPretty Pig (talk) 06:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a file upload wizard. Cobalion. Setting Justice everywhere.active 12:21, 23 March 2013 (UTC)