User talk:Primeditor

Emmanuel Faber
Hello Primeditor. A few changes you made recently on the Emmanuel Faber page seem to me to be against Wikipedia guidelines. Following edits you made on 14 April, I re-edited some of the affected passages on 15 April, and then you re-edited again, at 04:05 and 04:07 on 15 April, restoring some of the things I think are wrong. Rather than start an edit war, I hope we can here resolve the significant differences. I open discussion on each significant difference under points numbered 1-4 below.

1. In the paragraph starting "Faber started his career", you moved a sentence to after the footnote that was providing a citation for it. It leaves the sentence without a citation to support it, and achieves nothing positive that I can see. Could you explain?

2. In the paragraph starting "He joined Danone in 1997", you have added the sentence "His track record operating the region was mediocre at best." This seems to me a subjective value judgment which, at the very least, would need an explanation of criteria and a strong source. For biographies of living persons, Wikipedia says: "Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous." And this statement does seem to be "unsourced or poorly sourced". The link in the citation does not work, for me at least. It is a dynamic URL, and it hangs. Putting the URL into the WayBack machine, I can see that the original source does not say anything about Faber's track record. So I think your statement must urgently be removed.

3. In the paragraph beginning "That same year", besides erasing some text I added which I think was legitimate and useful, you have restored an assertion that Danone became "the world leader in plant-based products, alternatives to animal proteins", which is not supported by the citation provided. Can you provide an effective citation for this? And can you explain why you deleted my additional text?

4. Later you have added: ''His controversial and solitary leadership style, heavily influenced by his lack of business operation background eventually started passing its toll on company’s performance and team motivation. His continuous push for organizational changes, company transformations and an apparent disregard for the final consumer was picked up by investors and financial analysts. He was confronted on the fact that he seemed to spend more time in the many external social and environmental related responsibilities and much less operating the company. The Board of Directors suggested organizational changes to strengthen the operational aspect of the company which were refused by Faber. Shortly after, two investment funds expressed their concern in letters to the Board.'' There is no valid citation for this. Again I believe parts of this are contentious and potentially libellous, and should be removed immediately.

Looking forward to your responses,

Mrmedley (talk) 08:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Dear Mr Medley. Just because you do not like the text/content it does not mean you can erase it. It is documented in many sources. Here is one https://www.ft.com/content/8e7ae718-eb18-4d2f-bd18-59e6349540f2 Primeditor (talk) 03:34, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello again, Primeditor. I did not delete your text just because I do not like it. I deleted it mainly because it seems to contravene Wikipedia standards in that it contains contentious (and I believe potentially defamatory or libelous) statements about a living person without stating a source that verifies them. The source you mention above does not corroborate these statements. If you know of sources that do corroborate the statements, you should add them next to those statements in the article. Mrmedley (talk) 09:49, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

April 2022
 You have been blocked temporarily from editing certain pages (Emmanuel Faber) for problematic BLP issues. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Black Kite (talk) 10:10, 17 April 2022 (UTC)