User talk:Primefac

Articles for deletion/Jean Houymet
Good morning,

I'm new with Wikipedia and would like some help with the soft delete of this page. Sorry if it took months before I reached out but It took a while for me to realize that we had trouble with the page. Could you help me in understand the exact reason behind the deletion?

The following reasons were written in the talk page of the article -

I'm writing this on behalf of a friend who did all the research about Jean Houymet and all his descendants. If the main issue is that Jean Houymet is not an important figure, we have found that many famous people are related to this Jean Houymet, the most famous one being Francis Desales Ouimet, the father of amateur golf in the USA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ouimet

Here's a list of other famous people that are descendants of this Jean Houymet André OUIMET https://fr.wikisource.org/wiki/Les_Patriotes_de_1837-1838/29 Antoine OUILMETTE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Ouilmette Danielle OUIMET https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Ouimet David OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ouimet Francis DeSales OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Ouimet François OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Ouimet Gédéon OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9d%C3%A9on_Ouimet Gérard OUIMETTE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Ouimette J. Aldéric OUIMET https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph-Ald%C3%A9ric_Ouimet J. Alphonse OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphonse_Ouimet J. Rodolphe OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph-Rodolphe_Ouimet Jean OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Ouimet Joseph-Aldric OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph-Aldric_Ouimet Karl OUIMETTE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Ouimette Léo-Ernest OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9o-Ernest_Ouimet Lise OUIMETTE-PAYETTE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lise_Payette Marie-Josée GIBEAU-OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie-Jos%C3%A9e_Gilbeau-Ouimet Matt OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Ouimet Stephen OUIMET https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Ouimette Steve OUIMETTE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ouimette

I think it would be interesting to keep this Jean Houymet page and link it to all these famous people.

I do have to agree that a family biography project is not suitable for Wikipedia. If we rewrite this article in a more encyclopedic way and link it to all these famous Ouimet, would it be something accepted by Wikipedia?

Please get back to me on what's the best way to un-delete this page and modify it ton a Wikipedia worthy article. Thank you very much for the help you will give me,

Pierre-Alexandre Planglois012 (talk) 14:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We have a phrase on Wikipedia called "notability is not inherited", which basically means that being related or otherwise connected to a notable individual does not make that original individual notable themselves (see also WP:INHERITED and WP:INVALIDBIO). You state If the main issue is that Jean Houymet is not an important figure... - yes, that is the main issue. I think it would be interesting to keep this Jean Houymet page is also not a valid argument to make for keeping an article on Wikipedia.
 * The long and the short of it, as I said in the original nomination, is that if the only people who have done any extensive research into the individual are his family members during the course of a genealogy project, he will not meet our requirements for inclusion, no matter how many bluelinked/notable relations he has on Wikipedia. It's not about linking to other Wikipedia articles, it is about linking to reliable, independent sources that talk about the subject. Primefac (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for getting back to me quickly with this. I forgot to subscribe to my message and never saw your reply.
 * I will consult with the writer of this article but unfortunately, I think this is the end of Jean Houymet on Wikipiédia.
 * Thanks again,
 * PA Planglois012 (talk) 10:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

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Template problem?
I'm not sure whether or not it's caused by your edit today to Template:PH brgy table lite, but the article Liloan is suddenly filled with ParserFunction errors. I'm ignorant of template coding; could you look into the situation and determine what the problem is? Deor (talk) 14:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I haven't edited that template in a year. I also do not see any parser issues on the article you indicate. If it still shows for you, it might be a user-side error, but if it's cleared up chances are that someone fixed whatever issue popped up. Primefac (talk) 15:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I clearly misread the timestamp of your edit. The article looks OK to me now, too. Deor (talk) 15:16, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No worries, glad to hear it's resolved. Primefac (talk) 15:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Paracas Candelabra and Maria Reiche
I'm fine with your removal, frustrated that I am pretty certain that Maria Reiche studied and dated this but the only source I can access is which probably isn't any good. One of these might have something but maybe not. Doug Weller talk 12:59, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * No issues restoring it if there are sources; someone was complaining about bad intel so I figured removing anything unsourced was the best way to get quality control going forward. Primefac (talk) 14:45, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The problem was several editors claiming it was a Hindu inscription. I see the author of the article in the World History Encyclopedia is Ana Maria Cogorno Mendoza so although I don't think it's a reliable source for everything, this article looks ok.  Doug Weller  talk 15:02, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Nested templates issue
Could you or another admin have a look at User:Pratikcr7 and rewrite their userpage to use the correct sockpuppet(er?) template? It's a visual mess throwing up garbage errors due to the nesting of the two templates in a non-compatible way within each other, and what little was written is rather lacking in explanation of what actually should be there. Thanks. Zinnober9 (talk) 15:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think I have fixed it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:05, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Damn, that was quick. Looks good to me. Thank you much. Zinnober9 (talk) 15:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Huh, surprised that lasted as long as it did. Cheers all. Primefac (talk) 15:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of List of star systems within 20–25 light-years for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of star systems within 20–25 light-years is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/List of star systems within 20–25 light-years (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Hekerui (talk) 12:24, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Edit requests
+ fyi, the changes to editrequested, editrequest are populating the tracker tables (e.g., User:AnomieBOT/SPERTable) with a hundred-some old completed requests. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 16:10, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Interesting. For the record the base template is edit protected. Primefac (talk) 16:19, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * , I'm pretty sure this is a cache issue; the table has been slowly decreasing in size since you posted. Primefac (talk) 17:44, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Looks like it was caused by the lack of declaring Template:Edit protected as a wrapper for Module:Arguments that Special:Diff/1234470812 fixed. Without that it ignored the yes and so rendered as an active request, which AnomieBOT dutifully listed in the tracker tables. Once it was fixed and MediaWiki reparsed the pages, AnomieBOT removed them from the tables. Anomie⚔ 20:53, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Cite LSA
Do you have a list of articles that used to have it by chance? &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:19, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I couldn't say for sure, I thought there were a bunch but all I know is the edits made by, listed here, but I suspect this is last-roundup cleanup rather than the sum total. They might know more though. Primefac (talk) 18:31, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * You'd probably have to look in a database dump. This page says that it was used in about 4,000 citations (I think that is what is being counted, rather than pages) as of the 1 July 2024 dump. I did a few dozen manual replacements of Cite LSA with cite journal and similar templates, as appropriate for what was being cited. All of the articles were in the realm of paleontology and geology, not anything to do with linguistics. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:37, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'll go through the last dump. &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:42, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Afsaneh Salari
Hi Primefac. Would you mind taking a look at User talk:Mr.izadpanah? I'm not going to draftify it again, but it does seem like it would've been better for the creator to re-submit it to AfC for another review given their declared COI, and the fact it was declined once and wasn't significantly improved thereafter. FWIW, I'm asking you about this after seeing your posts at WP:ATC WT:AFC and thought you'd be a good person to ask about it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:29, 18 July 2024 (UTC) ; edited -- 22:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If they've "contested" the draftification by moving it back to the article space, then really the only venue left is to send it to AFD. Primefac (talk) 22:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Would AfD be warranted in your assessment? -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:57, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Probably, it looks like most of the sources are about her film, and there's not really even much in the prose to indicate notability (some nominations but no "big" wins). Primefac (talk) 12:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Your controversial move of template:GBP
What ever made you think that that would be an uncontroversial move? "GBP" is the ISO 4217 code for the Pound Sterling (no such thing as "British pound", by the way, "adding insult to injury"). Specifically, GBP is used when an editor's keyboard doesn't have a pound sign. Thus GB£1,000 produces GB£1,000. What would make you believe that your long-winded version is an improvement on that?

Please revert your move and propose it properly if you seriously believe it has any merit whatever. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 19:43, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Chill. Primefac (talk) 19:46, 21 July 2024 (UTC)