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DYK for Stroma, Scotland
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 * That's a really impressive article. Nick-D (talk) 10:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your opinions on the TFA coordinator position
Hi Prioryman. I recently had my first interaction with our current TFA coordinator, and it raised some doubts in my mind about whether we have the right person for the job or not. I won't go into the details, but it raised severe concerns about whether the current occupant has sufficient respect for bedrock principles like WP:OWN and WP:CONSENSUS.

But all that occurred in the context of a very controversial proposal, so maybe I just did something wrong myself than made him "see red'-- that's fine, we all have bad days.

I read somewhere that you told the prior coordinator that "enough was enough" due to inactivity, so you seemed like a good person to ask about whether we have the right man in the job, or alternatively, whether that TFA job description should be rewritten entirely. I've considered that how important the position is, we should have regular site-wide candidate searches, or perhaps just roll the position into the electoral process, like Arbcom.

What do you think-- is the status quo working at TFA, or could we be doing better with some sort of reform? --HectorMoffet (talk) 22:01, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

List of Fortifications
Hi Chris! I revisited this list yesterday and remembered it requires a fair bit of work but I'd forgotten that you were working on it in your userspace until it appeared on my watchlist today. Nice to see you back on the Gib articles. Please let me know how I can help. Also noticed you've started the following articles:


 * Defensible Barracks
 * Retrenched Barracks
 * West Place of Arms

Thanks for this! My second child has just been born but as soon as I find some time I'll try to get you some photos for these. By the way, I noticed a glitch with the military structure infobox yesterday. I'll try to fix these in the above-mentioned articles but be sure to use the parameters from this template going forward to avoid problems. Cheers, --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 01:59, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Retrenched Barracks
I think this and Lathbury Barracks are one and the same... Also referred to as the Retrenchment Block. --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 01:27, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I think you're right... unfortunately I can't find any sources that indicate a renaming. Any ideas? Thanks for fixing the infoboxes, by the way, and congrats on your new arrival! Prioryman (talk) 23:33, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the congrats!
 * "Lathbury Barracks" is definitely the most popular name with over 9,900 hits on Google followed by "Retrenched Barracks with 1,500 hits and "Retrenchment Block" with 539. However, most of the results for "Retrenched Barracks" seem to be Wikipedia mirror sites. It seems that here in Gib "Lathbury Barracks" is used to refer to the wider complex with the stone building being called the "Retrenchment Block". What do you think? --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 15:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Referenda or referendums?
Hi, I noticed that way back in 2004, you added the following text to the referendum article:


 * Referendums is logically preferable as a plural form meaning ballots on one issue (as a Latin gerund, referendum has no plural). The Latin plural gerundive, meaning things to be referred, necessarily connotes a plurality of issues.

You then began changing "referenda" to "referendums" in what has now become a standard practice on Wikipedia. Why does the above passage support this position? 99% of the time, a plural form of "referendum" is being used to mean a plurality of issues. Consider the following sentences:


 * 1) Many countries held referendums on whether to ratify the UN resolution.
 * 2) None of the past referendums to change the constitution passed.
 * 3) Three referendums were held: one on abortion, one on immigration and one on railways.

None of these sentences are using "referendums" to mean "ballots on one issue". I have never seen "referendums" used this way. Because they are not referring to the ballots themselves, I think all of these sentences need "referendums" changed to "referenda". Is this logic sound? If not, please explain how I have misread the Oxford passage. Connor Behan (talk) 23:26, 12 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I found an interpretation of the Oxford passage. Basically it says that if one referendum is on issue A and another referendum is on issue B, they are "referendums" if A and B are related, otherwise they are "referenda". Would you agree? Next time I come across the word, I will change it to agree with this logic. Connor Behan (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Articles for creation
Hi Chris, you may have noticed I've added to the Gib to-do list and tidied it up in the process. We now have a section on overview articles which I thought may be of interest to you seeing as you've already created some really good ones (history, Neanderthals, Moorish, fortifications, tunnels, water supply and sanitation, tourism, footpaths...) I'm happy to collaborate if any tickle your fancy. --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 15:09, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * battery was upgraded between 1877–79 with the installation, at a cost of £4,095, of a 12.5 inch [rifled muzzle-loading] (RML) gun installed in a casemate built on top of the platform. The gun was

Victoria Batteries
Thanks for these too!

Although I understood them to be the same battery. Given that they both had the same name and the newer one was built on the right flank of the pre-existing battery, couldn't it just be considered a modification of the original defences? I'm guessing Hughes and Migos don't agree... By the way do you own a copy of their book? I've been after one for a while! --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 00:35, 20 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Well, Hughes and Migos reproduce the portion of a 1908 Ordnance Survey map showing the batteries, and they are indeed two separate places, with a gap between them, separately labelled as Victoria Battery. I don't have a copy of their book but I've been using the copy in the British Library. I'd imagine there's one in the Gib Library too? Prioryman (talk) 19:00, 21 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Cool, happy to keep them separate then. Was just curious . I tend to use the Gibraltar Museum's books. They have a copy but would like to own one for my collection.
 * We still have to sort out the Lathbury/Retrenched Barracks double entry... --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 22:48, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Anzu (dinosaur)
The DYK project (nominate) 16:41, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

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 * I have put a good-to-go marker on your submission, but I am new to this and it may be countermanded. I made some comments on the DYK page that you may want to address. Star Lord -   星王 (talk) 10:19, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It looks fine to me - thanks. Prioryman (talk) 13:37, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Franz Helm
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DYK for Statute forbidding Bearing of Armour
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DYK for William Wallace (philosopher)‎
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DYK for 2012 VP113
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DYK for Eastbourne Lifeboat Station
Thank you for this article Victuallers (talk) 16:03, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for A Railway Collision
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DYK for Pi-Chacán
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 27 June 2014 (UTC) Hi Prioryman, I have to say, this may be the best DYK of all time on Wikipedia. Thank you for creating the article, I think it's great! You may be interested in linking it to Yoni. USchick (talk) 19:10, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll add a "see also" link. Glad you enjoyed the article! Prioryman (talk) 20:14, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Best wishes. c. 14,000 hits! but one day has no stats?? Victuallers (talk) 17:48, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Seems to be a flaw in the wikiviewstats software. Try stats.grok.se at - it should give the full tally after midnight tonight. Prioryman (talk) 20:14, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
 * And there we go - 13,426+2,268 = 15,694 hits. Prioryman (talk) 10:19, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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 * Thanks Crisco, I'll reply tonight. Prioryman (talk) 06:25, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * And the other half? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:50, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm just working through them now - have just done another batch of changes. I'm aiming to get the last batch finished later today - I'll ping you when they're all done. Prioryman (talk) 07:52, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

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 * That's dismaying, I hadn't realised that. :-( OK, I suppose we had better close the older nomination then - it's not time-sensitive so I can always resubmit it at a later date. Prioryman (talk) 07:20, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks, and thanks also for your help with the FAC! Prioryman (talk) 13:01, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 *  Precious  again, to see him on the Main page, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:25, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Re: Clarification Motion
Hi Chris. No content disputes that I'm aware of! I was surprised to see these sanctions are still in place... --Gibmetal 77 talk 2 me 09:46, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Dumfriesshire Hoard
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 * I have added this article at the DYK stats page as it got over 13,000 views during its time at the DYK section. --BabbaQ (talk) 20:56, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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Do be advised that some editors dream that they talk on behalf of the DYK project - they do not. In fact editors should talk about the text only at DYK. As far as I can see, your hook was referenced to a reliable source. Thats all that is required - and a good feeling about contributing to this project etc. You and your editting fit the bill. Do not take any notice. You are very welcome at DYK. Talk to me if you need assistance. Victuallers (talk) 17:01, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Carl Hans Lody
I left a message on the articles talk page. Sincerely, Jonas Vinther (speak to me!) 13:21, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for St James the Less, Pimlico
Thanks from the wiki Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!
Thank you for your excellent work on Statue of James II, Trafalgar Square! Would you be interested in joining the London task force of WikiProject Public Art, where we are working on creating and improving articles on statues and other public art works in London? Ham (talk) 06:17, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Also visiting your talk page to thank you for your work on this article. You might consider nominating the article for GA status. :) Keep up the great work! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:36, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much, both of you! Yes, I'll take a look at the task force - thanks for the link. Prioryman (talk) 21:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sinclair C5
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:27, 30 November 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of KV15
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Global account
Hi Prioryman! As a Steward I'm involved in the upcoming unification of all accounts organized by the Wikimedia Foundation (see m:Single User Login finalisation announcement). By looking at your former account, I realized that you don't have completed it yet. It might happen that this account will be forcibly renamed till April 2015. For avoiding that, please login as ChrisO and merge your account at Special:MergeAccount. You don't need to edit with your old account. If you have any problems with doing that or further questions, please don't hesitate to ping me with. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 23:25, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Exhumation of Richard III of England
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