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Nomination of List of people with dual American and British citizenship for deletion
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Nomination of List of people with dual American and German citizenship for deletion
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Nomination of Smite World Championship 2016 for deletion
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Your submission at Articles for creation: MonteCristo has been accepted
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 * I'm trying to understand the basis on which this draft was accepted. This was deleted at AfD just a month ago, userfied after a trip through DRV, immediately moved to draft space, and the resubmitted with only the addition of a few very dubious sources (twitter and random esports blogs).  I don't see how any of the objections at the original AfD were met by this new draft.  Pinging  who closed the DRV.  -- RoySmith (talk) 16:00, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * RoySmith That's the problem with previously deleted versions not being visible to reviewers - we have no basis for comparison so we must judge the draft as it stands. Another factor is the apathy towards AFC by the vast majority of regular editors, we cannot force topic specialists to participate in reviewing - the small number of active reviewers cannot possibly be experts on every concievable subject. It comes down to a judgement call by someone who knows practically nothing about video games/gamers. The sources seem reasonable = must accept. AFC is inherently biased towards accepting marginal drafts, if a reviewer cannot make a sound case for declining a submission (within the constraints of the valid decline reasons given in the AFC workflow) it must be accepted. You are of course free to start a deletion process. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:23, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough. I do appreciate the effort that gets put into AFC.  You guys who review stuff there are our first line of defense!  I didn't mean any disrespect, I was just surprised to see this pop up again.  Yes, I'm going to bring it back to AfD.  18:55, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of FREAKAZOiD


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Twitch gameplay != Twitch website
Prisencolin, your redirect from Twitch gameplay to Twitch.tv doesn't make sense. For a start, you broke over >100 article incoming links (though those could be fixed). But more important, the website is not commonly known with the term "twitch gameplay" (certainly not more that the gameplay concept), and therefore it can't be the primary topic for that term.

It would make sense to have Twitch.tv as the primary topic for the term "Twitch", if no other prominent concept used that name; but not "Twitch gameplay". A primary topic needs to be the most common meaning for the specific term. Diego (talk) 15:16, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * "Twitch gameplay" sounds like it's missing a preposition, like the phrase "watch gameplay on twitch". In my mind there's no way that the website is the primary topic for just "twitch"--Prisencolin (talk) 03:12, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

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Recommendation of Smash players going by real name
The recent name updates with smash players have been a bit confusing. For example, Mango's common name is not C9 Mango, he is sponsored by them, C9 is not apart of his gamer tag so WP:NATURAL would suggest Mango (eSports player) as preferred. However, because of ssbwiki, I think it is better to use Smash players real names to avoid possible confusion. Valoem  talk   contrib  17:13, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Sure, why not. There is ESPN coverage now that refers to them by their real names.--Prisencolin (talk) 22:39, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

Category:People who lost citizenship has been nominated for discussion
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Speedy deletion nomination of FREAKAZOiD


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Fighting game community
Did you want this? You can move it to your space if you want on edit from mine, up to you. I also wrote an article on Chinatown Fair and The Lost Arcade if you have any other expansions. Valoem  talk   contrib  03:56, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do with the draft, thanks.--Prisencolin (talk) 05:26, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Team NoA (2nd nomination)
Can you please withdraw this nomination I think sources like this and this should pass GNG. Valoem  talk   contrib  15:14, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I've withdrawn this afd for now, but if it's decided later that these sources aren't adequate enough I may renominate the page.--Prisencolin (talk) 21:23, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Your comment to User:Colonies Chris
Hello Prisencolin, I posted the following response to Colonies Chris' incorrect statement on his talkpage before he reverted it:


 * Actually, it has nothing to do whatsoever with the intelligence or background knowledge of our readers. Linking should be contextual so we should link to major items that relate to the article in question, and not "every single thing".  If we have an article about a specific breed of dog, it would be odd for the word "dog" not to be linked to dog yet most of our readers know what a dog is.  Please work harder in this regard.  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:55, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Chris has a real problem with being picked up on when he uses his scripts, and his response in this particular case is really troubling, it appears he's completely lost sight of how Wikipedia best benefits our readers with links to contextually relevant articles. Instead he's actively assuming our readers already know what they're most likely to be looking for. Very sad and destructive. Please continue to notify him if you disagree with his continually disagreeable edits. It may take some time, but eventually we'll get there, I'm sure. Best. The Rambling Man (talk) 22:08, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: MonteCristo (July 31)
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Paula Williams Madison
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Speedy deletion nomination of FREAKAZOiD


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Long split
I don't see the logic of the split, nor why you've moved some of the Chinese Longs and not others. In any case, as it stands, your new article denies the contributors of the material in the new article of the attribution they're due for their efforts. Copied is the template you need to fix things. Regards, for (talk)  12:49, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It seems like the only way to correctly link to other language Wikipedias. Currently the Long (surname) page is only associated with the Wikidata entry that goes to German and Russian WPs, where as there a separate one for Chinese, Cantonese, Japanese, etc, which are more germaine to the topic. As for attribution, there's probably a way to merge the histories, although it might be a bit tedious.--Prisencolin (talk) 21:25, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
 * You're overcomplicating what's required. I've done it for you... Special:Permalink/733369412 & Special:Diff/733369458. for (talk)  09:49, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

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I removed the Proposed Deletion tag you placed on ClanBase EuroCup. Please be patient. The Articles for deletion process usually takes 7 or 8 days to complete and this article has only been at AfD for 3 days. On the 7th or 8th day, an administrator will look at the deletion discussion page and make a decision as to whether or not the page will be kept, weighing the deletion arguments made on the page. Proposed Deletion is out of process once an Articles for Deletion discussion has started. There is no way to hurry along the process, so please just be patient for 4 or 5 days. I am pretty sure the article will be deleted from the looks of things. Thanks. Safiel (talk) 18:47, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
 * I think I was meaning to tag another page that had just NCQed to a keep, but got the two confused. Thanks for the reminder though.--Prisencolin (talk) 19:35, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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 * Okay, I'll try to take this into consideration, thanks.--Prisencolin (talk) 00:01, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

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eSports
Cheers for all your work on the eSports articles (mainly CS:GO), it's really awesome to see these pages rising from the ground up. Great work! - J man708 (talk) 21:34, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
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A discussion you may be interested in
I have just made a new nomination for renaming categories for those U.S cities where the article doesn't include the state name. Since you participated in a recent discussion about this, you may want to express your opinion at Categories for discussion/Log/2016 September 6. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:18, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Some error about EHome
I see you created a page about esport club EHome. The page shows EHome was founded in 2011. However, it's wrong. EHome was not only a dota2 team. You can check article about WC3 player FIy100%. Fly100% joined the team EHome in 2009 which means EHome was founded at least before 2009 as Warcraft 3 team. Then check the 2010 result of page Electronic Sports World Cup, EHome won the Dota champion of ESWC in 2010 which is also earlier than 2011. I check some Chinese public online encyclopedia .EHome was actually founded in April, 2005
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