User talk:Prof. Chuck Morton

May 2024
Hello, I'm TornadoLGS. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to European Health Management Association have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. TornadoLGS (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2024 (UTC)


 * I do not understand why this may be the case. I have added that the one journal does not exist any longer and have added a second one they are still working with. Prof. Chuck Morton (talk) 17:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The tone of what you added particularly, "the Journal promotes management, leadership and winning practices," is promotional. Additionally, you have two mainspace edits, both of which added links to the same journal, does at least give the appearance of promotion. TornadoLGS (talk) 17:29, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I am new here but this is the journal's mission. I would not feel trained or authorised to change the tagline of anything.
 * With the mainspace I apologise, seems I have not yet figured out how this works correctly. Will pay more attention in the future. Prof. Chuck Morton (talk) 09:49, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * As I said, I have not invented this but it is their tagline. Like Forbes - Change the World. I would not be able to change this or write it in any other form. Now if you consider this as promotional then this is quite disturbing as it seems you have just followed your guts and not facts. I would not have any other explanation for this.
 * The reason why I am starting to learn editing is simple: I am from NC and running a boutique med-tech company. Recently I relocated to Europe. There I came across quite a few associations, areas and topics which are completely underrepresented here. Take Hospital Management Associations!
 * There is the world's largest missing: the European Association of Hospital Managers https://eahm.eu.org/. I did not make this up but simply can add numbers.
 * There are quite a lot of others like the European Hospital and Healthcare Federation (Hope) https://hope.be/ (bigger than the American Hospital Association), and the European Association of Healthcare IT Managers - like CIO Chime https://hitm.org, amongst many others.
 * I thought it may be a good idea to start somewhere to contribute as I am not confident enough to set up a page for them on my own at this point and level of my knowledge. As I came across some interesting new stuff like this Journal I thought I started to gain experience.
 * But as you are considering my start as biased and that I promote stuff I better let the US folks rule this platform and not waste my time. No offence but this is how I feel about your comment.
 * Pr. Chuck Pr. Chuck (talk) 10:21, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
 * TornadoLGS (talk) No answer? No comment? I am unsure how qualified you are in healthcare but in particular as you have not even bothered to answer me I fear the worst. Pr. Chuck (talk) 08:42, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I did not reply earlier because I did not see your responses: I have a lot of pages on my watchlist and things get lost in the jumble. The issue at hand is what sort of tone is appropriate for an encyclopedia. Per your comment about the sentence being the journal's tagline, such slogans are created by companies and organizations to promote themselves and generally should not be mentioned. As to the other organizations you mention, Wikipedia relies primarily on secondary sources that are independent of their subjects. Reliance on primary sources should be limited. In fact this is central to the general notability guideline. Generally speaking, what a company or organization has to say about itself warrants little consideration in articles. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:48, 20 June 2024 (UTC)