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 * John Haught, in testimony given for Kitzmiller v. Dover :


 * "Q. [..] What do you understand intelligent design to be? "A. I understand it to be a reformulation of an old theological argument for the existence of God, an argument that unfolds in the form of a syllogism, the major premise of which is wherever there is complex design, there has to be some intelligent designer. The minor premise is that nature exhibits complex design. The conclusion, therefore, nature must have an intelligent designer."


 * "Q. You said this is an old tradition. Can you trace the antecedence for us? "A. Well, two landmarks are Thomas Aquinas and William Paley."


 * "Q. How does intelligent design build upon or modernize this old tradition of natural theology? "A. Well, it simply appeals to more recent findings about the complexity of the world by contemporary science, "


 * "Q.Does intelligent design identify the designer as God? "A. Intelligent design proponents stop short of identifying the intelligent designer as God, but I would say that the structure and history of Western thought, especially religious thought as such, that most readers, if not all, will immediately identify this intelligent agent with the deity of theistic that is biblically-based religion."


 * "Q. [..]Now, one of the first things you said, Professor Haught, was that intelligent design is an old, an old theory, an old doctrine. Is that true? "A. I didn't put it in exactly those terms. I said its -- "Q. What were the terms you used?
 * "A. I said that its foundation in history is the natural theology tradition that's been part of Christianity and Christian thought for centuries."


 * "Q. So merely because you trace a particular idea to antiquity or to old tradition does not in and of itself make that idea invalid, does it? "THE WITNESS: No, but one has to be careful of what's called genetic fallacy in logic. That's the fallacy that tries to understand any phenomenon in terms of how it originated.  For example, you could say that astronomy originated in astrology and that chemistry originated in alchemy. But you can't evaluate, you can't reduce the present understanding of chemistry, for example, to what the alchemists were talking about."


 * "Pandas was the first place the term "intelligent design" was used systematically, defined in a glossary-" Matzke


 * "Intelligent design was formulated in the 1990s, primarily in the United States, as an explicit refutation of the theory of biological evolution advanced by Charles Darwin" -- Encyclopedia Britannica


 * Intelligent design refers to a scientific research program as well as a community of scientists, philosophers and other scholars who seek evidence of design in nature." - intelligentdesign.org - owned by DI's Center for Science and Culture.


 * "The campaign for equal time to be given to what was called “creation science” in the schools eventually foundered on the ACLU’s ability to show that its tenets were inspired by Genesis and not derived from any reasonable interpretation of the evidence. If creation science was fundamentalist Christianity in disguise, then the first amendment to the Constitution—designed to ensure the separation of church and state—forbids its teaching in the schools. The later movement known as Intelligent Design (ID), which focuses instead on a modernized version of Paley’s argument from design, was introduced to bypass this problem, and its campaign continues unabated today." - Peter Bowler, 2007


 * Kitzmiller v. Dover 2005


 * "..."intelligent design, a relatively new strain of anti-evolutionism that became prominent in the 1990s" - Jason Rosenhouse, 2012