User talk:Prokofiev2

Alexis Monnerot-Dumaine. Paris (France). Alexis.monnerotdumaine@gmail.com

random walk on list of fractals
Pourrais-tu preciser ce que tu entend par la dimension de Hausdorff de la marche aleatoire? Formelement, c'est une fractale? Dans quel sense? Et oui, a la limite on obtient une approximation du mouvement brownien, vaudrat-il mieux parler de celui dernier? (De toute facon ca serait pas mal de rajouter des trajectoires browniennes de dimension 2 dans R^n, non?). Beaumont 11:08, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

random walk on list of fractals
La marche aléatoire est équivalente au mouvement brownien à la limite, c'est en ce sens évidemment qu'on peut parler de fractale. On y retrouve l'auto-similarité et l'invariance d'échelle caractéristiques. Sa dimension de Hausdorff a été calculée (et même la dimension de sa frontière). Sa dimension est-elle la même dans R² et en R^n ? Je n'ai pas vraiment cherché la preuve, bonne remarque. Si tu la trouves, on peut modifier l'article. Prokofiev2 14:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Alors,  Brownian paths in R^n (n>=2) have Hausdorff dimension 2 with probability one, K. Falconer, "The geometry of fractal sets", Cambridge University Press 1985, section 8.8, page 147. A+ Beaumont 14:51, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Self-avoiding walk
How did you create the fractal under "self-avoiding walk"? It's not a real self-avoiding walk (random walk conditioned not to hit itself), is it? It looks too dense... maybe it's the "true" self-avoiding walk, i.e. a random walk that does not cross itself unless its trapped (see e.g. Amit-Peliti-Parisi)?

Uffish (talk) 21:51, 31 October 2009 (UTC)


 * The algorithm is quite simple : When it is trapped it goes backward as many times as necessary, erasing its path, until it finds a possible move. This image was chosen as an illustration among many because it "fits" well in a rectangle.Prokofiev2 (talk) 09:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

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