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Tech News: 2018-50
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 December. It will be on all wikis from 13 December (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * New accounts will need passwords that are at least 8 characters long. Admins, interface admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, CentralNotice admins, global renamers, check users, stewards and some other user groups will need passwords that are at least 10 characters long. This is because an attacker could cause damage to the wikis if they took over these accounts.
 * When you hover over a footnote it will show you the reference as a pop-up. This is so you don't have to jump down to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will happen in 2019. Some wikis already have gadgets that do this. You will be able to turn it off.

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December 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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Tech News: 2018-51
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News
 * Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 7 January 2019.

Recent changes
 * Some templates that show notices about the content of the page will now be shown on the mobile website. In many cases they were hidden before.
 * Admins can no longer unblock themselves, except for self-blocks. A blocked admin can block the user who blocked them but no one else. This is so no one can block all admins on a wiki without being stopped.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The ParserMigration extension has been removed. It compared the result of two versions of the MediaWiki wikitext parsing pipeline. It was used when we moved to the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy.

Problems
 * tags can use parameters such as "name" or "group". For example . If a   tag has more than two parameters all parameters are ignored. You don't get a warning that they don't work. This will soon be fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 December. It will be on all wikis from 20 December (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia Foundation Android app team are working on making it easier to edit on mobile phones. You can read more about these plans. If you have an Android phone and speak at least two languages you can help testing in English. Tell Dchen (WMF) you want to be part of the testing by writing on her talk page or email her.
 * Octicons-tools.svg  and   will stop working. They have no maintainers and run an old operating system. Tools which use it could stop working. This includes the mapnik gadget, hill shading, and hike and bike layers. New maintainers could help out and keep it going.

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January 13: Wikimedia NYC invites you to Wikipedia Day 2019
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Tech News: 2019-02
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Tech News writers, editors and translators wish you a pleasant 2019 year.

Recent changes
 * RelatedSites extension has been undeployed. It was used to create interwiki links on Wikivoyage, now handled by Wikidata.
 * Octicons-tools.svg MediaWiki logstash logging is moving to a new infrastructure. This is an ongoing deployment.
 * Octicons-tools.svg codesearch.wmflabs.org has been updated, with new and updated repositories and a new search options for code.
 * Octicons-tools.svg On several wikis, an account named "" has been created on December 17 to perform some technical maintenance on AbuseFilter. This account has sysop rights but it's a system user and no human can use it. The account already existed on wikis where AbuseFilter can perform blocks, which are issued using this account. See T212268 for more information and future plans.

Problems
 * Octicons-tools.svg In AbuseFilter, the "" action takes three parameters: count, period and groups. They must now strictly respect the requirements listed on mediawiki.org. A list of broken filters is on Phabricator. If you're familiar with AbuseFilter, please take a look and fix them.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from January 9. It will be on all wikis from January 10 (calendar).

Meetings
 * Search Platform Office Hours is rescheduled to January 9. Check the details for time and date.

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Tech News: 2019-03
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use Google Translate in the content translation tool.
 * You can now add captions to files on Commons. Captions are short descriptions of the file. They can be translated to all languages we use. They can't use wikitext markup.
 * Earlier a quoted HTML attribute had to be followed by a space. Now it doesn't. This means that some pages could look different when you save them even if you didn't edit that part of the text.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Templates with   could not show the difference between the live template and the sandbox version when they were tested. This has now been fixed. has a new   parameter now. You can use it for selectors like.

Problems
 * When you see an edit in the recent changes feed or in the history of a page some of them have tags. Some tags are added automatically. You can also add tags manually. Tags for edits that have been added manually can be edited. This didn't work for a little while. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You can move files from your wiki to Wikimedia Commons and keep the file history with the new FileExporter. It will be a beta feature on all wikis from 16 January. If you want to test it you activate it and check your wiki's configuration file.
 * Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The AbuseFilter variable  has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on Special:AbuseFilter.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15  17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-04
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Tech News
 * Some people did not get last week's issue of Tech News. This was because of a problem with MassMessage. If you did not get last week's issue, you can read it on Meta.

Recent changes
 * The content translation tool can now use version 2 as the default version for users who turned on the beta feature. For example it adds the tracking category   to translations that might have used machine translations without fixing the problems. This is so others can find them. You can find this category in   on Wikipedias.
 * https://mediawiki2latex-large.wmflabs.org can now convert collects of up to 800 pages to PDF, EPUB or ODT. Previously this was 200 pages.

Problems
 * When a template was edited with the visual editor, it would sometimes put all information on one line. This makes it difficult to read for editors who use the wikitext editor. It also makes it more difficult to see what happened in a diff. This problem affected edits made between 8 and 17 January and is now fixed.
 * MassMessage is used to post a message to many pages. It has not been working reliably. Some messages have not been posted to everyone.
 * Because of a database problem that had to be fixed immediately you could not edit most wikis for a couple of minutes on 17 January (UTC). This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * You will be able to use template styles in the  namespace.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 22 January. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 23 January. It will be on all wikis from 24 January (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2019-05
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Wikimedia servers use HHVM to run the PHP code. They are going to use PHP7 and stop using HHVM. You can test PHP7 with a new beta feature. That way you can help find and report problems.

Problems
 * When someone moves a page to a name that already exists that page that had the name the article is moved to is deleted. For a couple of months this didn't always work. Some users saw an error message instead. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 30 January at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2019-06
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * It was easy to untick a box by accident in Special:Preferences. This will now be fixed.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 February. It will be on all wikis from 7 February (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2019-07
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can use the  CSS class to show page issues to mobile readers. When you use   there are classes you can use.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 February. It will be on all wikis from 14 February (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Beanpot
Are you going to go full incel on me if I add the women's results? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TitleIXHockey (talk • contribs) 01:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


 * ¿¿Que?? I think it would be great if the women's Beanpot results were included on that page - it's just as notable in my opinion (which, to be frank, doesn't matter). Where is the information sourced from? How far back does it go? I somewhat remember the women's version of the tournament starting in the 90s, but I'm really stretching my memory on that. By all means, please add the info! - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 04:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Digital Freedom campaign


A tag has been placed on Digital Freedom campaign requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the. DannyS712 (talk) 08:21, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-08
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Recent changes
 * When you thank someone on the mobile web you will now have two seconds to cancel the thank. This is in case you clicked on the thank button by accident.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 February. It will be on all wikis from 21 February (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * There is a proposal to add a red link to mobile search results if there is no page with that name. This is how it works on desktop. You can leave feedback.

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Talk to us about talking
The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a global consultation about communication. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.

We want all contributors to be able to talk to each other on the wikis, whatever their experience, their skills or their devices.

We are looking for input from as many different parts of the Wikimedia community as possible. It will come from multiple projects, in multiple languages, and with multiple perspectives.

We are currently planning the consultation. We need your help.

We need volunteers to help talk to their communities or user groups.

You can help by hosting a discussion at your wiki. Here's what to do:
 * 1) First, sign up your group here.
 * 2) Next, create a page (or a section on a Village pump, or an e-mail thread – whatever is natural for your group) to collect information from other people in your group.  This is not a vote or decision-making discussion: we are just collecting feedback.
 * 3) Then ask people what they think about communication processes.  We want to hear stories and other information about how people communicate with each other on and off wiki.  Please consider asking these five questions:
 * 4) When you want to discuss a topic with your community, what tools work for you, and what problems block you?
 * 5) What about talk pages works for newcomers, and what blocks them?
 * 6) What do others struggle with in your community about talk pages?
 * 7) What do you wish you could do on talk pages, but can't due to the technical limitations?
 * 8) What are the important aspects of a "wiki discussion"?
 * 9) Finally, please go to Talk pages consultation 2019 on Mediawiki.org and report what you learned from your group.  Please include links if the discussion is available to the public.

You can also help build the list of the many different ways people talk to each other.

Not all groups active on wikis or around wikis use the same way to discuss things: it can happen on wiki, on social networks, through external tools... Tell us how your group communicates.

You can read more about the overall process on mediawiki.org. If you have questions or ideas, you can leave feedback about the consultation process in the language you prefer.

Thank you! We're looking forward to talking with you. Trizek (WMF) 15:08, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-09
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Recent changes
 * There is a new version of the iOS Wikipedia app. It has for example syntax highlighting and new toolbars to make it easier to write wikitext. It also has night mode, a find-on-page function and other things. You can give feedback and suggestions.

Changes later this week
 * When you look at your watchlist or the recent changes page you can use the new filters for edit review. There you can choose tags to filter different edits. Empty tags will no longer be shown.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 February. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 February. It will be on all wikis from 28 February (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 27 February at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikipedia app for Android will invite users to add Wikidata descriptions to Wikidata objects that have Wikipedia articles but no Wikidata descriptions. It will only invite users who have added a number of Wikidata descriptions in the app without being reverted. This is to avoid spam and bad edits. You can read more and leave feedback.

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BKSK
Please don't add red links for a possible future article. First create the article and then add links. They're easy enough to find using the search box. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:52, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Eh... Tomato, tomahto. Since when do you follow *rules*? ;) Seriously though, WP:RED (policy) states "[g]ood red links help Wikipedia", so it isn't as if there is a blanket rule *not* to create redlinks. Adding the links for BKSK Architects helps to show interest/viability for the article via the what links here function. There are 4/5 articles (and it looks like a few images) that explicitly reference the firm and after some (very quick) research/searches it looks like the firm has comparable notability to CetraRuddy. (I pulled it from the One Madison article we are discussing.)I agree it is better to start the article first, but what is the harm in adding the links in the meantime if it is a "notable topic in-waiting"? (Other than WP:WTAF, which isn't relevant here.) And to quote WP:RED policy again: "Do not remove red links unless you are certain that Wikipedia should not have an article on that subject." I see you reverted one some of the additions, but I understand what you are getting at and I'm not going to dispute it until the page is created. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 07:06, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Feb 27 WikiWednesday Salon + Mar 2 MoMA Art+Feminism and beyond
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Michael Cohen
I edited Michael Cohen (lawyer) making a lot of small changes. When I saved it, the system seems to have lost some of your changes. Sorry. It would be easier for you to re-do your changes than for me to do so. —Anomalocaris (talk) 09:06, 28 February 2019 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I reverted your edit. I gave an explanation in the edit summary. I just tried to add back some/most of the reader-facing changes that were lost. I think I got most everything, but please in the future try to fix any edit-conflicts before making a change to the article. Also, the magnitude of that edit was not "minor". See help:minor edit for more information about when you should use that checkbox. Sorry again for the confusion and thanks for understanding. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 09:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-10
<section begin="technews-2019-W10"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 5 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 6 March. It will be on all wikis from 7 March (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 6 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You can give feedback on the future of talk pages.
 * The mobile website will use the standard fonts on your computer or phone instead of a generic font. This will make it easier to read text in many scripts.

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Very generalized thoughts on WP's organizational self-management
Some stuff that came to mind in the BMK thread, but which aren't really pertinent to that case's details in particular: The trade-off between proceduralism and efficiency is an organization/project management issue more generally: the new hire that screws the pooch gets canned easily, but someone who's been part of the team for a decade does not, even if the issues they're thought to be causing are greater than those of the newbie. Losing the experience, the institutional memory, can cost more than that problem's resolution is worth in many cases.

But there's a cost–benefit analysis line beyond which this is no longer true. Part of the organizational life-cycle is the departure or adjustment of people from the wild-and-wooly "visionary founding" era in response to the changed operational needs of a matured organization. There can even be more than one such line the crossing of which can trigger the organization to make a decision to either change or eject someone or something.

I've been through a lot of that (on both sides of it) at various organizations. I observe (maybe more easily than average) that WP has had and still has various growing pains in this regard. Just a few examples: Jimbo largely stepping away from active "über-admin" activity, under community pressure to do so; a culling of admins from the earliest days who were not really subject to any scrutiny before getting the bit and who have not used it appropriately; RFA becoming more difficult, while at the same time various "bits" that need lower trust levels (PageMover, FileMover, TemplateEditor, etc.) have been spun out from adminship to compensate (and despite all kinds of "the sky will fall" nonsense about it from old-time admins); changes to the WMF officers and board; a still-unresolved need to shift the organization's model of thinking toward behaving like a nonprofit with a mission and a constituency instead of operating just like a software company with a product and a userbase; ArbCom slowly redefining its role and approach over the last few years; WP shifting strongly toward what amounts to a variant on a voting system (RfCs are used constantly today, and subject to a lot of formal closure, when they were originally introduced simply to attract occasional additional attention to discussions, usually without written closures); etc., etc. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  10:47, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Very interesting, well-considered points. Managing even a simple project can easily grow in complexity if not kept in check. Managing a project this size is a massive undertaking and even with all the problems that are here, and many getting worse, it has been, and likely will continue to be, a massive success. Almost 2 decades later I'm still amazed at what has been accomplished by almost entirely volunteer, self-policed editors. It really is marvelous.I especially resonate with that bit towards the end about WP benefiting by moving away from the mindset of a nonprofit to more of a software company. Contributing at a high level has gotten increasingly more complex over time, but all the various support organs and software changes – particularly the visual editor – have made it significantly easier to attract new editors. I'm not familliar with the statistics, but I'd be interested to see if the facts support it (i.e. more editors overall, but a much smaller proportion editing at a high rate as compared with, say, 10 years ago).It is a very hard problem to the necessary changes – especially granting more granular "admin-lite" responsibilities to a much wider group of people that are actually interested and motivated to contribute in those specific, more discrete areas – to support the significantly changed structure. Let alone deciding  changes to make and, almost as importantly,  they should be made. It seems like you have a pretty good grasp on the  at the very least.Anyway, thanks for the interesting read. I'm not quite sure if I'm making too much sense right now as I haven't quite given it as much thought as it seems you have and it is really time for me to head to sleep. I appreciate the comment though! - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 08:34, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Reply was getting long, so I put it in an essay (along with some of the earlier material), at User:SMcCandlish/Wikipedia's self-management and future.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  12:36, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-11
<section begin="technews-2019-W11"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Pages can use geocoordinates from Wikidata with the  Lua function or the   parser function. If they do, they will now be shown using  mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Kartographer if the wiki can use Kartographer. You can report bugs or ask questions on Phabricator.
 * There is now an EventStream to see when links are added or removed on Wikimedia wikis. You can read the discussions and plans.

Problems
 * Some wikis will not be able to edit for a short period of time on 19 March (UTC). This will start at 15:00 UTC. It will last up to 15 minutes but probably shorter. You can see the list of affected wikis. This is because of network maintenance. You can still read the wikis.
 * Editors who use Firefox to edit with the visual editor had a problem with copying text. When they tried to select text that included footnotes, templates or block images in the middle they would often only get part of the text. This has now been fixed.
 * Some maps didn't work for a while on 8 March. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 12 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 13 March. It will be on all wikis from 14 March (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 13 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Snowflake-in-Chief listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Snowflake-in-Chief. Since you had some involvement with the Snowflake-in-Chief redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Goveganplease (talk) 13:34, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

WikiProject Apple Inc.
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Tech News: 2019-12
<section begin="technews-2019-W12"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * When you use rollback you will be able to get a confirmation prompt on most wikis. It asks you if you wanted to do the rollback. This is to avoid misclicks. You will have to opt in to get it. On German Wikipedia it will be an opt-out feature from 28 March.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 19 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 20 March. It will be on all wikis from 21 March (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 20 March at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Admins will be able to block someone from editing a page or a namespace. This already works on a few Wikimedia wikis. You can read more. If your wiki wants to be an early tester of this, you can tell the developers.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Toolforge will shut down the Ubuntu Trusty job grid. This will happen the week of 25 March. Tools that use this grid needs to be moved to the new Debian Stretch job grid. If they haven't, they will be taken offline. Maintainers can restart the tools later. Users may not be able to use them in the meanwhile. You can see a list of affected tools.

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A kitten for you!
I see other articles have multiple links to social media accounts and some don't at times. I don't know if there is a clear-cut policy or guideline for which are to be included and which aren't, especially in relation to what is happening within their lives as information becomes more relevant and events come and go. Hope our discussion isn't too heated over something minuscule and I don't come off as too harsh. :)

 Adog ( Talk ・ Cont''' ) 18:30, 19 March 2019 (UTC) <br style="clear: both;"/>
 * Not at all! Thanks for the kitten! - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 18:39, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

== March 20: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC + March 23: Asian Art Archive/New York Public Library ==

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Deletion of question from another editor
Greetings,

Regarding this edit, though I agree it's much more useful to post such questions on the talk page than inline, it's probably a good idea to move such questions to the talk page rather than expecting the original editor to undelete them and re-post. If I were the one asking the question I expect it would be rather discouraging to have it deleted summarily, it seems a bit bureaucratic and inflexible not to accept questions in the way they are offered, and it was a legitimate question that deserved attention from other editors. -- Beland (talk) 04:40, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello. If you look at the full edit history, the comment was summarily removed by a bot, which 100% was inappropriate (in fact, I reported it as a false positive as soon as it happened). Subsequently, a 3rd person reverted the bot about 12 hours later without addressing the question, which also didn't seem to make sense. On the next day or so, I re-reverted and pointed out that the original editor didn't do anything wrong, but the proper place for the discussion is the talk page. My intent was not in any way to discourage and in fact I thought it was terrible that the well-meaning editor was immediately reverted by a bot. That said, it didn't make sense to return the comment to the article after it had been removed. All I was trying to do was invite discussion in the proper venue. I appreciate the comment though and in the future I'll consider proactively starting the discussion. - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 04:54, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-13
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Recent changes
 * The new version of the content translation tool will be used for all new translations. The older version will still be used for translations that were started with it. Most users won’t see any change. More than 80% of the published translations are already using the new version.

Problems
 * There was a problem with editing with Safari on iOS. When you wrote an edit summary you couldn't save the edit. This has now been fixed.
 * The editing toolbar sometimes disappears when you scroll on iOS devices. This will be fixed soon.
 * Wikis can over-ride interface messages on-wiki. A problem meant that sometimes an old versions of any changed messages were shown instead. This included the sitenotice and other important parts of the interface. This was fixed at around 2019-03-22 16:00 (UTC). Logged-out users may still get the wrong message. Purging the page should fix it for them.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar).

Meetings
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Nomination of TCOLondon for deletion
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Tech News: 2019-14
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Changes later this week
 * Notifications tell you about things that happen on the wiki. You can turn on notifications about new links to pages you created. For performance reasons you can no longer get e-mails about this.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar).

Meetings
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April 17: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC + April 4 and 5: LaGuardia Community College Translatathon 2019
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Go search Google News for those terms
You'll notice fairly quickly that most news sources using "ultra rich" without the hyphen are in South and Southeast Asia. Most American and British news sources refer to the "ultrarich" or "ultra-rich." --Coolcaesar (talk) 17:46, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Tech News: 2019-15
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Recent changes
 * More wikis are now testing visual editor section editing for mobile users. You can read more.
 * Admins on French and Polish Wikipedia can block someone from editing a page or a namespace. If your wiki wants to get these blocks before they are available to all wikis, you can tell the developers.

Problems
 * You will be able read but not edit most wikis for 30 minutes on 11 April at 05:00 (UTC). This is because of a hardware problem. You can see a list of the affected wikis.
 * A map update caused some problems on 29 March and 30 March. It was rolled back.
 * Pages on some Wikivoyages had problems with the top headline. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * When you add an edit summary the VisualEditor will search your recent edit summaries in case you want to re-use one. This works in both the visual and wikitext modes on desktop. It also works on the mobile site.
 * The Wikimedia wikis will get a URL shortener. This will work from 11 April. You can read more.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The  magic word will no longer work. This is for performance reasons. When you preview a page it will return   (empty string). When you read a page it will return   (dash). For now this will only affect content namespaces.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 10 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * You will be able to preview references. This means that when you hover over the link you will get a popup that shows you a preview of the reference. It will work much like page previews. This is so you don't have to go to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will now be available as a beta feature on German and Arabic Wikipedia.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikidata JSON output will change. Empty containers will be serialised as empty objects. This is a breaking change that will affect tools that use JSON outputs and APIs. It will happen on 30 April. You can read more and see how to test your code.

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Call-out culture
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Tech News: 2019-16
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Recent changes
 * All wikis now have the TemplateWizard for the wikitext editor.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar).

Meetings
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Future changes
 * Wikidata will get a new constraint status called . This will change how the   constraint checking API works.
 * You can test the  property for structured data on Commons.

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"Less-redacted" Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election report.
Hello,

I noticed your recent edit's message. There is currently a talk page on the article page right here to discuss about it. Aviartm (talk) 18:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That comment is from me. ;) - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 18:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I noticed {[u|User:Psantora}}! :) I also did not know that you were Paul in the discussion page. Lol. Aviartm (talk) 18:33, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
 * No worries ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 18:38, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2019-17
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Recent changes
 * The advanced search function URL now shows which namespaces you search in. The namespace field is collapsed by default on the search page. You can also add new fields to the search interface through a hook.
 * The wikis now look slightly different in the mobile web version.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 23 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * Wikipedia articles will have the  meta property. It adds structured data. This makes it easier for search engines to find Wikipedia articles. It also makes it easier to reuse content. There will an A/B test.

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JointVenture listed at Redirects for discussion
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Apple (Italia) listed at Redirects for discussion
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Mueller Report red text
Hello,

I think you did not mean to but I reverted your edit when you were messing with the text colors and you did something that made the majority of the article and talk page all red. Diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mueller_Report&type=revision&diff=894326893&oldid=894325258

Original edit of yours: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mueller_Report&type=revision&diff=894147965&oldid=894146717

Cheers!

Aviartm (talk) 04:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, . It was an issue at lime, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Lime&action=history . It was template valdalism and there was never anything wrong with the code as written. Templates can be tricky stuff. Everything seems to be in order now, though perhaps we should work to get lime and other, related templates protected? - Paul T [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Psantora&action=edit +]/C 13:34, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Alrighty. That's good. You're welcome. We should get those templates protected. Aviartm (talk) 20:20, 27 April 2019 (UTC)