User talk:Pseudo-Richard/Expulsion of Germans after World War II

Sentence in introduction needing correction
Hi Richard,

the following sentence in the introduction appears incorrect:

The majority of the deportations occurred in areas belonging to Czech Republic, Poland and Russia after the war.

After the war, neither the Czech Republic nor Russia actually existed as sovereign states. They were part of Czecheslovakia and the Soviet Union, respectively. I would suggest changing it to say:

The majority of the deportations occurred in areas nowadays belonging to Czech Republic, Poland and Russia.

The reason I'm suggesting changing the time reference instead of changing the names of the countries is that while any statements about the period right after the war might invite controversy, there is little doubt about today's situation as Germany has officially accepted the east borders in 1990, eliminating the potential for controversy by stating which countries these territories belong to today instead of after the war. - tameeria 02:20, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Potential scholarly sources
Here are a few more scholarly sources. I have access to the JSTOR archive, so I can look those up. I don't have access to many of the others though.


 * Joseph Velikonja (1958): Postwar Population Movements in Europe. Annals of the Association of American Geographers, Vol. 48, No. 4, pp. 458-472. JSTOR
 * Ewa Morawska (2000): Intended and Unintended Consequences of Forced Migrations: A Neglected Aspect of East Europe's Twentieth Century History. International Migration Review, Vol. 34, No. 4, pp. 1049-1087. JSTOR
 * Jan M. Piskorski (2004): The Medieval Colonization of Central Europe as a Problem of World History and Historiography. German History, Vol. 22, No. 3, 323-343. SAGE Journals Online

Silesia

 * T.D.I. Kamusella (1999): Ethnic Cleansing in Silesia 1950-89 and the Ennationalizing Policies of Poland and Germany. Patterns of Prejudice, Volume 33, Number 2, Pages 51-73. Taylor and Francis
 * Bernard Linek (2004): Recent Debates on the Fate of the German Population in Upper Silesia 1945–1950. German History, Vol. 22, No. 3, 372-405. SAGE Journals Online

Sudenten

 * Timothy W. Ryback (1996): Dateline Sudetenland: Hostages to History. Foreign Policy, No. 105, pp. 162-178. JSTOR
 * Yuliya Komska (2004): Border Looking: The Cold War Visuality of the Sudeten German Expellees and its Afterlife. German Life and Letters, Vol. 57 Issue 4 Page 401. Blackwell Synergy

Czecheslovakia

 * Chad Bryant (2002): Either German or Czech: Fixing Nationality in Bohemia and Moravia, 1939-1946. Slavic Review, Vol. 61, No. 4, pp. 683-706. JSTOR
 * Eagle Glassheim (2006): Ethnic Cleansing, Communism, and Environmental Devastation in Czechoslovakia's Borderlands, 1945-1989. The Journal of Modern History, volume 78, pages 65–92. University of Chicago Press

Poland

 * Geoffrey North (1958): Poland's Population and Changing Economy. The Geographical Journal, Vol. 124, No. 4, pp. 517-527. JSTOR

Soviet involvement in the expulsions

 * R. C. Raack (1990). Stalin Fixes the Oder-Neisse Line. Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 25, No. 4, pp. 467-488. JSTOR
 * Stephen Wheatcroft (1996): The Scale and Nature of German and Soviet Repression and Mass Killings, 1930-45. Europe-Asia Studies, Vol. 48, No. 8, pp. 1319-1353. JSTOR
 * Lauri Mälksoo (2001): Soviet Genocide? Communist Mass Deportations in the Baltic States and International Law. Leiden Journal of International Law 14: 757-787, Cambridge University Press. Cambridge Journals

German refugee crisis

 * Matthew Frank (2006): The New Morality—Victor Gollancz, 'Save Europe Now' and the German Refugee Crisis, 1945–46. Twentieth Century British History 17(2):230-256. Oxford Journals
 * Ian Connor (2006): German Refugees and the SPD in Schleswig-Holstein, 1945-50. European History Quarterly, Vol. 36, No. 2, 173-199. SAGE Journals Online

Integration of expellees

 * Philipp Ther (1996): The Integration of Expellees in Germany and Poland after World War II: A Historical Reassessment. Slavic Review, Vol. 55, No. 4, pp. 779-805. JSTOR
 * Henning Sussner (2004): Still Yearning for the Lost Heimat? Ethnic German Expellees and the Politics of Belonging. German Politics and Society, Vol. 22. Questia
 * Steve Wood (2005): German expellee organisations in the enlarged EU. Journal German Politics, Volume 14, Number 4, 487-497. Taylor and Francis
 * Pertti Ahonen (2005): Taming the Expellee Threat in Post–1945 Europe: Lessons from the Two Germanies and Finland. Contemporary European History, 14: 1-21, Cambridge University Press. Cambridge Journals

German memory of the expulsions

 * Eric Langenbacher (2003): Changing Memory Regimes in Contemporary Germany? German Politics and Society, Vol. 21. Questia
 * Robert G. Moeller (2003): Sinking Ships, the Lost Heimat and Broken Taboos: Günter Grass and the Politics of Memory in Contemporary Germany. Contemporary European History, 12: 147-181, Cambridge University Press Cambridge Journals
 * Aleida Assmann (2006): On the (In)Compatibility of Guilt and Suffering in German Memory. German Life and Letters 59 (2), 187–200. Blackwell Synergy

German-Polish-Czech relationship

 * Wladyslaw Czaplinski (1992): The New Polish-German Treaties and the Changing Political Structure of Europe. The American Journal of International Law, Vol. 86, No. 1, pp. 163-173. JSTOR
 * Peter Thaler (1997): A Bridge Lost-Interethnicites along the German-Polish Border. International Migration Review, Vol. 31, No. 3, pp. 694-703. JSTOR
 * Emil Nagengast (2003): The Beneš Decrees and EU enlargement. Journal of European Integration, Volume 25, Number 4, 335-350. Taylor and Francis

Reparations and war booty

 * John Farquharson (1997): Governed or Exploited? The British Acquisition of German Technology, 1945-48. Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 32, No. 1, pp. 23-42. JSTOR - (contains large sections on Soviet plundering of the Ostgebiete)
 * Bardo Fassbender (1999): Prince of Liechtenstein v. Federal Supreme Court. Case 2 BvR 1981/97. 36 Archiv des Volkerrechts 198 (1998). The American Journal of International Law, Vol. 93, No. 1, pp. 215-219. JSTOR - (about the legal status of a painting seized without compensation by Czecheslovakia after the war)
 * Andrea Gattini (2002): A Trojan Horse for Sudeten Claims? On Some Implications of the Prince of Liechtenstein v. Germany. European Journal of International Law 13(2):513-544. Oxford Journals
 * Bart DelMartino (2006): The End of the Road for the Prince? Sixty Years after the Czechoslovak Confiscation of Liechtenstein Property. Leiden Journal of International Law 19: 441-458, Cambridge University Press. Cambridge Journals
 * Regula Ludi (2006): The Vectors of Postwar Victim Reparations: Relief, Redress and Memory Politics. Journal of Contemporary History, Vol. 41, No. 3, 421-450. SAGE Journals Online

- tameeria 04:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Escape, exodus and expulsion
I'm not quite sure why anon user User:131.104.218.46 is making changes to the article that attempt to separate exodus, escape and expulsion. I think these changes are misguided because the recent debate has been over the figures put forth regarding number of deaths associated with the expulsions. It has generally been agreed that there is no way to separate flight, evacuation and expulsion. Accurate records were not kept and so any population balance numbers must necessarily be for the entire exodus which includes flight, evacuation and expulsion. Even actual death records cannot differentiate among these subcategories of the exodus.

If anything, this entire debate argues that much of the text should be moved to German exodus from Eastern Europe and this article should be rewritten to focus only on the expulsions to the extent that this is possible.

--Richard 16:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

We must separate the figures for reasonable proportion. It can be done. It needs not to be accurate numbers. The population balance method is absolutely inaccurate. I sense manipulations. First you use title Expulsion and add to the story escape. Now you want exchange the word to exodus and keep the millions from population balance method in "new" frame. This is putting responsibility from Nazi orders down to Polish. Pure ZgV "politic". The article is blocked but should be REMOVED already. It still display for public the manipulated crap. Stop switching and twisting.--131.104.218.46 01:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)