User talk:Psmithcalifornia

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Hello, Psmithcalifornia, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! JohnCD (talk) 12:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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Holy Nicholean Catholic Church
Wikipedia has an inclusion criterion called WP:Notability, which is not a matter of opinion but has to be demonstrated by showing "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." Significant means more than just listing-type mentions; reliable excludes Myspace, Facebook, blogs, places where anyone can post anything; independent excludes the subject's own website, affiliated ones and anything based on press releases. More detail at WP:Notability (organizations and companies) and the WP:FAQ/Organizations. The test is, have people unconnected with the subject thought it worth writing substantial comment about?

Can you show any independent coverage of the Nicholean Church? Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for withdrawing gracefully. As and when you bring it back, you have two obstacles to overcome: WP:Verifiability from reliable sources, and WP:Notability which, as explained above, requires showing significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. That may well be difficult for a new organization. The links at the top of this page will tell you more about contributing: one useful approach is to make a draft article in your user space - Help:Userspace draft will tell you how to do that - and then ask for comments on it at WP:Requests for feedback.


 * I have conversations like this so often that I have written User:JohnCD/Not a noticeboard which you may find helpful.


 * Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:59, 7 March 2011 (UTC)