User talk:Puddleglum2.0/Archive 5

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DYK nomination of Rodger Young
Hello! Your submission of Rodger Young at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:38, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

Need a help (again:-))
Hi there, Puddleglum2.0. I hope you are well and staying safe. I also hope that your remember me (you did me an awesome favor by fixing my wiki signature))) I'm still immensely grateful to you for that, that was sweet. If you don't mind, however, I would like to ask you to give me a hand with one more thing: fixing my archive in my talk page. No matter what bot (Miszabot, Bluebot or whatever) I place in my talk page, it just doesn't work. Finally, I placed one template that consists of an Archive page, but I couldn't make it work or link it properly. I'm completely screwed. Sorry to have disturbed you again. Thank you in advance! -- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi 09:14, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I see you have just set up Miszabot in my talk page, but it still seems to be to no avail. "Something is rotten in the state of Denmark..." - Shakespeare...-- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi 05:00, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, great to see you back! Love the Shakespeare, that's my favourite play! It takes a while for the not to activate - up to 24 hours if I recall correctly. If it doesn't work after that, feel free to come back here and I'll figure it out. On a completely unrelated note, would you mind adding two apostrophes after the last two brackets of your signature? Currently it's causing weird italics and making things to go haywire. Thanks! All the best, --  puddleglum  2.0  05:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Puddleglum2.0. It's been a long month and I'm happy to be back as well. Also, I would like to thank you for your yet another help. You are a very kind-hearted and responsive person. Thanks again and take care! -- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi 06:16, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Barnstar for you
-- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi 06:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks! -- puddleglum  2.0  20:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Reply-link
Hi, Puddleglum. Just wanted to let you know that I didn't get a ping. Stay well and all the best,  Mini  apolis  02:02, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Was this the right decision?
Hello, I came upon this on the RC page...I've reported it, was that the right decision? Thanks, Thanoscar21talk, contribs 15:30, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Don't mind me Puddleglum, you did well but that is a threat of harm, so I asked a admin to revdel the diff, and emailed emergency@wikimedia.org. Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 16:07, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Thanoscar21talk, contribs 16:15, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Peer review
Peer review on Clicker heroes] i filed still hasnt beem answered... should I keep waiting, or withdraw it? 19:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)


 * It usually takes a while for peer reviews to get taken up - mine took a little more than a month. That being said, if it isn't taken up in a week or so and I have the time, I'd be happy to take a look over it, although it may be a tad less detailed than a normal one. Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  19:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot Puddlegum! I guess I’ll keep waiting... also, i still think you’d do a good job with the review if you do it. (BTW, phone editing is tolerable now that I enabled automatic spell checker...) Regards. Stay safe and well, -- Total Eclipse 2017 (talk &#124; contribs) 20:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Rodger Young
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Request
Please I want to join counter-vandalism as a student Tbiw (talk) 10:16, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi . After taking a quick skim of your contributions (hope you don't mind), I just don't know if you'll be the best fit for counter-vandalism work - much for the same reasons that outlined on his talk page after your request there. I apologize for the inconvenience - I know it must be hard - but if you do some counter-vandalism for a week or two and give me some more material to look at, I'd be more open to accepting you. I see that  may be accepting you though - good luck with that! All the best --  puddleglum  2.0  15:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Invitation to RedWarn
Hello, Puddleglum2.0! I noticed you have been using Twinkle and was wondering if you'd like to beta test my new tool, RedWarn, specifically designed to improve your editing experience.

RedWarn is currently in use by over 75 other Wikipedians, and feedback so far has been extremely positive. If you're interested, please see the RedWarn tool page for more information on RedWarn's features and instructions on how to install it. Otherwise, feel free to remove this message from your page. If you have any further questions, please ping me or leave a message on my talk page. Your feedback is much appreciated! Ed6767  talk!  02:38, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the invitation! I just had a couple questions about RedWarn before I go ahead and install it (which I probably will do in the end, it looks great, nice job!) Here they are:
 * Can you just give me a couple reasons why I should prefer this over Twinkle? The Twinkle tool has been working fantastic for me personally. (Sidenote: you may want to add such a list of why it's better then Twinkle on the RedWarn page.)
 * Will it work on an Android OS (or any other mobile interface for that matter)? That's what I primarily edit from.
 * Would this tool work seperately from Twinkle? This one I'm solely interested in from a trainer standpoint - as a CVUA trainer, I'm interested to see if I should integrate this tool into my course.
 * Apologies if these are already answered on the RedWarn page - I admit I only skimmed it. :) Anyways, thanks again for the invite, I look forward to your response! Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  02:48, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , 1. Twinkle is slow. I created RedWarn because of how tedious Twinkle can get. I'm a big fan of simplicity, meanwhile, Twinkle does the rollback, opens a new tab where you manually have to go through to the Twinkle warning option and all that jazz, meanwhile RedWarn when a rollback is complete, you are immediately faced with a new notice dialog, with all the info filled in automatically for most "quick rollbacks". Speaking of which, RW provides many more canned rollback responses and provides much more customization to the UI when compared to Twinkle, even at this early stage. 2. Yep! Should work on Android fine as long as you're using the Chrome/Firefox app (mostly the default one) - and an Android app is also being planned for future release! 3. RedWarn can run alongside Twinkle or without it. Just be aware that we're still working on matching Twinkle's features, so quite a few features are missing like XfD and ARV requests except for AIV. Ed6767  talk!  02:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , looks great, thanks! I've gone ahead and installed it and look forward to giving feedback soon! From what it looks, it may become part of my CVUA course, it looks a lot more new-user-friendly! Great work on this tool, it's looking good! Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  02:58, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thank you! Keep in touch on how it works out for you, I appreciate the feedback! Ed6767  talk!  02:59, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

CVU
Hey. How are you? I hope that asking you to train me to fight vandalism at the CVU's Academy will not look like I'm trying to make a move on you ;-). To an outsider, it may seem that I hang around this place more often than at my own talk page.)) Thanks, -- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi 05:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * (talk page watcher) Can’t blame you; I hang out here way too much as well;) Stay safe and well, -- Total Eclipse 2017 (talk &#124; contribs) 17:45, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * hello again! Before outright accepting you, I'd like to confirm that this is something you're actually interested in - in addition to taking my time, CVUA will take your time as well, and while I personally am happy to devote time to helping, I would like to make sure that you actually want to do this: I don't see much counter-vandalism in your contributions (which is otherwise fine). Before you reply, can you read WP:VANDALISM and the sylabbus section of WP:CVUA? This will give you a better understanding of counter-vandalism. All the best, -- puddleglum  2.0  15:50, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Yup, I pulled an all-nighter in order to read the above-mentioned vandalism-related pages (though I was invited to a party). I'm hyped about it, really. As per your suggestion that I'm not engaged in counter-vandalism at all according to my user contributions, it's not completely true. I do spend some time watching over recent changes and try to revert vandalism immediately when I spot one. Often, I spot two or more bad faith edits by the same user and therefore, I would've loved to have a rollback feature enabled for my account. This is the main reason behind my request. The reason why I asked you to train me is pretty obvious in my opinion, or not, no?! ;-) Keep well and stay safe! -- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi 05:24, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , ok, I'll set up your page and ping you there when I'm ready. I can tell you right now, your patrolling for vandalism in the most  inefficient way - try enabling some filters (I like using "Likely have problems" ) and read through WP:TWINKLE and install it. :) Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  23:12, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , Gratias tibi valde. Tutum manere! -- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi 03:25, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Copy edit notes for Sheila Atim
Thanks for your copy edit of Sheila Atim. I thought I would review this, to serve as an example of how you might provide reviews for others. Overall good, keep up the good work! And much thanks for volunteering to be a coordinator at GOCE! – Reidgreg (talk) 21:29, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Following critically-acclaimed stage roles in the Donmar Warehouse's all-female Shakespeare trilogy in 2016 among others, Atim won the 2018 Laurence Olivier Award You added 'among others' which is one of those little wordings that draws my attention as something to avoid, especially in the lead.  Articles are summaries, and the lead is a summary of that summary; nobody expects it to be exhaustive.  It seems like extra words that don't serve any purpose, and break the flow when we really want the lead to be easily read at a glance.  It's like an unnecessary 'however', the sort of thing you might use when you want a reader (or listener) to pause to absorb material.  But I don't feel that's the right tone for encyclopedic writing.
 * She has composed songs for some productions, and, in 2019, she premiered her play Anguis at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe. &rarr; and premiered her play Anguis at the 2019 Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Simplify sentence structure (especially in lead).
 * the cancelled Game of Thrones successor series Bloodmoon First caught my eye because the title Game of Thrones is missing italics.  However, I'd consider removing this from the lead entirely; it's unclear if the pilot episode was produced or broadcast, so it doesn't seem that notable to her career.
 * to showcase clothes that were for "real women." Punctuation belongs outside the quotation (MOS:LQ).  The quote which follows this is multiple sentences, so it's okay for the terminal punctuation to be inside.
 * She got involved in a workshop got &rarr; became, formal tone
 * The Times considered it to be and "intriguing look at female power … that marks [Atim] as a playwright to watch" and &rarr; an, and watch the ellipsis character … &rarr; ... (MOS:ELLIPSIS). Sometimes editors will copy & paste quotes so it's a good idea to watch for odd characters, as well as punctuation at the beginning and end of quotes.
 * The Times later referred to her performance as "mesmerising." Even if abbreviating a title (The New York Times), it should still get italics: The Times later referred to her performance as "mesmerising".
 * in a film edition of Shakespeare's Twelfth Night Should this be 'adaptation'?
 * she is also a member of The Old Vic Theatre Trust Board of Trustees I felt that 'Trust Board of Trustees" was a bit awkward and rephrased: she is also on the Board of Trustees of The Old Vic Theatre Trust.
 * , oops, thanks for the notes! This will be a helpful example for me - I plan on checking the very new users where mistakes may be a bit more obvious and easier to explain (although I will try to go as in-depth as possible). Again, thanks for the notes! All the best, -- puddleglum  2.0  22:17, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You're welcome! And don't worry, nobody catches everything, especially with MOS minutia.  I tend to catch a lot of MOS stuff, but I think I missed a MOS:CURLY apostrophe in the awards section.  An extra pair of eyes will usually spot something; I think that's why FACs require a minimum of three reviewers.  But not efficient to give articles that much attention until they reach that quality level. Happy editing! – Reidgreg (talk) 13:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Ouch..
I sorry to see you with two blocked CUVA students. I really am, I see how many hours you wasted for nothing. You are a great CUVA trainer with bad luck. Keep doing great edits! Best, Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 01:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , thanks for the support and barnstar! I'm just glad to say that the blocks weren't based off of anything that I taught them or were even tangentially based off of CVUA - that's a huge relief for me. Thanks again and cheers! -- puddleglum  2.0  02:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * No Problem! Signed, The4lines &#124;&#124;&#124;&#124; (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 02:34, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Wikipedia policies and guidelines request for comment
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Cva
Finished the part. New3400 (talk) 16:18, 9 June 2020 (UTC) Ready for review. New3400 (talk) 19:44, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Natura abhorret vacuum
Hey. Haven't heard from you for a while. Never mind the CVUA training, I just hope everything is alright with you. ""This place is empty, oh so empty. It's empty without you.""

- The Rolling stones' song :) It really is... I wish the best for you and your family. Please, take care! -- Visioncurve Haec lux solis, relinquentes senex mundi  03:29, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , oops, sorry! Nothing wrong with my life, just with me not being attentive. :) I hope you understand I get a lot of pings so sometimes miss some. apologies nonetheless, I will go check the page! Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  05:25, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you
Hi puddleglum! Thank you for the etow nomination, not only for the very kind words you wrote, but also for the timing. It's really lifted my spirits at a time that I needed it and means a lot to me. Thanks :-) Levivich&thinsp;[dubious – discuss] 15:43, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , you're welcome, I'm glad it helped you! Even though there may be many who don't like you here, there'll always be some people who still appreciate your work. Thanks for all you do! Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  15:49, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020
This is your only warning; if you offer beer to someone under 21 again, as you did in your edit at User talk:Can I Log In, you may be borked from editing without further notice. ''My date of birth was March 18, 2018, so I am not age 21, and so are you. Oh the template was extremely easy to make. You just had it ready to move it to template space, so I will just destroy the beer and uh send you this WIkiLove?'' &#123;&#123; reply to &#124;Can I Log In&#125;&#125; 's talk page! 05:53, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Not sure if you have seen my ping at CVUA
Hello there, I am not sure if you have seen my ping at my CVUA page. By the way, how do you apply text-colour to your signature instead of background colour? Thank you! '''The creeper2007 Talk! 17:21, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , you can use . :) —  Galaxy Dog talk 14:03, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you! '''The creeper2007 Talk! 16:57, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Geography and places Good Article nomination
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Not sure if you have seen my ping at CVUA (again)
Hello there, I'm not sure if you have seen my ping at the CVUA. Thank you! '''The creeper2007 Talk! 17:13, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi - just wanted to let you know that I did see it, but have been very busy IRL. I'll do my best to get to it later today. Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  18:43, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok thank you! '''The creeper2007 Talk! 18:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Geography and places Good Article nomination
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Regarding RedWarn and the CVA
Now that I have a Wikimedia toolforge instance set up, this allows me to have some server-side features, so I've been thinking of some ideas. I was wondering what you thought about an extension to RedWarn that allowed CVA students who needed help on a difficult revert being able to click a button to immediately get help from their trainer, or another experienced user if online and opted in, when after you have made an action with RedWarn, it'll send a report to the student of what the more experienced user or trainer did, i.e. "user decided to rollback because (reason entered here). They then chose a Level 2 disruptive editing warning.", or if they did neither and a reason for it. I just think learning from experience, and being presented with an easy interpretation of the events that happened may be very useful for students or other inexperienced users who may just feel like they want some help.

Another tool that I was thinking of making is using the new RedWarn edit tag to help a CVA trainer review some rollbacks made by a student and to also review the actions they made there. What do you think? Ed6767  talk!  21:50, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ed6767 Have you stalked some CVUA courses? Like here or there? RedWarn is not ready to incorporate into CVUA because it lacks the following.
 * CSD
 * UAA
 * Okay, not much. It's almost always TW that's in CVUA.
 * So this help request thingy, maybe make a dedicated page like RedWarn/help request and make it so all help request are logged there, from some RedWarn help request button. &#123;&#123; reply to &#124;Can I Log In&#125;&#125; 's talk page! 22:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , I'm thinking more in the future here. I have a few ideas and was just wondering what a current CVUA trainer would think about some ideas I'm having. Ed6767  talk!  22:39, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi, that's a really interesting idea! I think it would work pretty well, and UAA + CSD don't have to be there for now - the help request could be limited to certain areas. The help definitely wouldn't be immediate, at least from me - these days I'm finding less and less time to be on, especially going in depth into confusing edits, but that's fine. If ever have extra time, I think that would be a pretty cool asset to have in the CVUA! Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  23:39, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , hi, that's a really interesting idea! I think it would work pretty well, and UAA + CSD don't have to be there for now - the help request could be limited to certain areas. The help definitely wouldn't be immediate, at least from me - these days I'm finding less and less time to be on, especially going in depth into confusing edits, but that's fine. If ever have extra time, I think that would be a pretty cool asset to have in the CVUA! Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  23:39, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Feedback request: Geography and places Good Article nomination
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Thanks
That was a definite improvement - I was being sloppy in my terminology there, thank you! Girth Summit  (blether) 07:55, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , no problem, glad I could help! As a sidenote, do you have any thoughts on the idea had in the above thread about making it easier for CVUA students to request help with potentially confusing edits? I thought it might work out pretty well, but would appreciate a more senior instructor's thoughts. Thanks and cheers! --  puddleglum  2.0  02:36, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi, in principle, anything that makes it easier for students to provide diffs or get help might be a good thing. I haven't looked at Redwarn myself to see how well it could be integrated into the CVUA course - your point about needing UAA and CSD reports is a valid one though, and I confess that I'd be hesitant about starting to introduce packages other than Twinkle simply because I'm so familiar with it and I know that it does everything we need it to to cover the material in the course. It's the same reason why I don't cover Huggle as a part of the standard course - that's something you can learn for yourself once you know the basics. What we're really teaching is the fundamentals of what is and is not vandalism, how and when to warn/report users, and what to do in various types of difficult situation. Those basic principles don't change when you're using a different tool to do the work. Girth Summit  (blether)  09:58, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

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NPPSCHOOL
Hey, just dropping by to remind you that it's been a while since you last took a crack at the current NPPSCHOOL assignment. Copyvio is one of the last units and you've honestly been doing a great job overall, so I'd really hate to see you give up so close to the finish line. signed,Rosguill talk 06:27, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , wow, this slipped completely off my radar! Love been busy IRL and also on Wikipedia with GOCE and CVUA stuff. Thank you for the reminder, I'll get to this ASAP! Cheers --  puddleglum  2.0  14:06, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Election
Hi Pudddleglum, in case you're not watching it, you have a question awaiting an answer at the GOCE election page. Cheers,  Baffle☿gab  21:57, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , oops, I'm watching the page, but it must have snuck past amongst the many other pages. :) Thanks for the heads-up, answering now. Cheers -- puddleglum  2.0  23:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

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