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Because NE2 thinks I'm a vandal
I don't get why you're bent on removing all my comments and saying "yawn" or "stay off" to all of them. We have a shared interest in improving coverage of transportation-related topics. I just don't understand why you did what you did at Watts (Pacific Electric). Why is an explanation so much to ask? BTW, I will tell you what is too much to ask: telling me to stay off your page. I'm perfectly entitled to come here and express displeasure with your edits. While you are entitled to remove my edits without responding to them, it's generally offputting. p b  p  05:48, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Copyright problems
Hello, Purplebackpack89. I've read through the conversation at User_talk:Diannaa and am stopping by to confirm that User:Diannaa's handling is quite the ordinary way these things are done. It is requested that users who tag articles for speedy deletion notify you that they have done so - "Users nominating a page for speedy deletion should specify which criterion/criteria the page meets, and should notify the page creator and any major contributors" per WP:CSD - but unfortunately not everyone complies with best practice.

When you start an article by copy-pasting your source and then modify it incrementally, you create a derivative work - it is still a copyright problem where the pieces retain substantial similarity. Blanking for a few sentences in a massive article might be overkill, but when the entire article is seven sentences long, it's a different situation - especially when the copied content constitutes over 50% of the article, as was the case with this content. Material in history is still a copyright problem.

I realize it is disconcerting to have an article you created disappear with no warning and am sorry that User:NE2 did not give you the recommended notice for several reasons, including that the best way to stop future copyright issues is to make sure people are aware of the policies. Just for the sake of clarity, we cannot create articles by copying content to Wikipedia and then modifying the material here. Every time we hit save, we are verifying that the content is free for our license, which means that either we must have created it ourselves or we must be able to verify that it is public domain or compatibly licensed. The only exception is for brief, clearly marked quotations that are used to supplement our created content, in accordance with WP:NFC. I understand that this article was created several years ago, and that you may not have continued with the practice used in creating that article, but I do need to be sure you are familiar with the policies. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:36, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * This is one of the rare instances where an article I have created is a derivative work. What frustrates me is that it was deleted almost instantaneously rather than giving me time to fix it.  As you said, it was only seven sentences long, so I could have easily reworded the article had I been given sufficient time.  Instead, I had to completely re-create the article (which you can now read at Watts (Pacific Electric); I think you'd agree now that it's not a copyvio problem, and now it has additional content), which took me significantly more time than it would have had the article not been deleted without warning.  Could you do me a favor and have a word with  about proper notification?  He should have been the one to tell me the statement you just said above, but he's blanking every attempt I have to make contact with him, essentially treating me like I'm a vandal.  It's especially disconcerting that NE2 is treating me this way because both he and I want to improve coverage of transportation-related articles.  Also, if you are concerned about further copyvios, I would point you in the direction of other articles I've created, such as Amoco Junction, Los Angeles yesterday.  p  b  p  16:52, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I effectively just did have a word with User:NE2, courtesy of notification. (No need to use ping; the fact that I linked his name will do it.) I hope he will take seriously the recommendation to notify creators in policy. At one point it was mandatory with WP:CSD tags, but the importance of getting this content flagged and clean outweighs the need to educate contributors and prevent future occurrences. That said, the notices not only may prevent future occurrences, but they also serve to alert people evaluating copyright concerns down the road that they have existed in the past - which goes a long way to facilitating cleanup and addressing serial infringers. These notices are a courtesy, but more than a courtesy - they are essential to managing problems long-term.


 * Generally speaking, administrators will restore for you categories, infoboxes and other non-infringing content on request when pages are deleted. When content is primarily copied from another source, as in this case, you can always access the original. I have not looked at the rewrite; we have enough outstanding identified copyright problems to deal with; if User:Diannaa says it's fine, I'm sure it's fine. I see nothing in your talk page history to suggest that this has been a pattern for you, but if you believe that you may have done this before, I would strongly recommend cleaning it up now proactively and asking an administrator to delete older versions. This would certainly demonstrate your good faith in this area, if other problems exist. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Yeah. I thought there was a bot that notified page creators of deletion tags. --NE2 18:08, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * If there is, it didn't notify me. Either that or the page was deleted before it could.  But why go full-on deletion, NE2?  You could have reworded or removed the content in 2 minutes, or you could have pinged me and I'd have reworded it or removed it.  p  b  p  19:07, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
 * User:Purplebackpack89, deleting the content was the right thing to do. This wasn't a borderline copyright problem; it was a blatant copyright problem. Every save page on Wikipedia says "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted" and it has said this in some variation for at least the 7ish years I've been around. Besides which, NE2 flagged the article for admin attention; he didn't delete it. It was an admin who confirmed his judgment there. Could he have rewritten it? Sure. But we're not talking about a typo here. We're talking about a violation of our Terms of Use. Even if was done in good faith, it's a pretty bad mistake and removing it on discovery was the critical thing.


 * NE2, alas, such bots (if there is one now) are generally unreliable. :/ The article was deleted about three hours after you tagged it. The deletion template itself generates the code that you can place, which makes things much easier. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:18, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

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Units entries in Wiktionary
I'm posting this here because I guess (wildly) that you may not monitor your Wiktionary talk page. You said you were adding some of these purported units to wiktionary, and I just wanted to ask you not to take anything on trust from the Cardarelli book (in particular, though there are lots of these anecdotal collections). I just looked at one: 'tub', said to be a "unit of measure of butter or cheese". I don't believe this for a moment: what happened was that butter and cheese were sold in tubs, and somewhere, sometime, some town's ordinances said that a "tub should contain 84 pounds". Or something like that, and Wiktionary doesn't need sources (?), making it oddly even more difficult to remove unsubstantiated claims. Please have a look at my comments on the Cardarelli book; work in progress, and comments and contributions welcome. Imaginatorium (talk) 05:12, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Your input requested: revamped CFB player infobox
Hey, PBP. Happy New Year. I'd like to get your opinion on this revised infobox template for college football players:. After determining what data points to include, we'll recruit a template editor to handle the coding for us. Once we determine what fields we're adding and what we're deleting, then we'll work on the modified graphics. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:28, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Magic categories to be merged back to block structure discussion
A nomination can be found here: Categories for discussion/Log/2015 February 16 to merge Magic categories back to blocks from sets. Feel free to join in on the discussion. Leitmotiv (talk) 18:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Have you talked to User:Good Olfactory about this? I considered fighting the close myself, but I'd have opened a review discussion or talked to GO rather than starting another CfD.  p  b  p  19:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
 * I didn't, but I just now posted a notice on his talk page. Leitmotiv (talk) 20:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015 March newsletter
That's it, the first round is done, sign-ups are closed and we're into round 2. 64 competitors made it into this round, and are now broken into eight groups of eight. The top two of each group will go through to round 3, and then the top scoring 16 "wildcards" across all groups. Round 1 saw some interesting work on some very important articles, with the round leader owing most of his 622 points scored to a Featured Article on the 2001 film Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within which qualified for a times-two multiplier. This is a higher score than in previous years, as had 500 points in 2014 at the end of round 1, and our very own judge,  led round 1 with 601 points in 2013.

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 * worked-up the Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 article, also to Good Article status;
 * developed an extremely timely article to Good Article, taking Magna Carta there some 800 years after it was first sealed;
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Los Angeles City Attorney
Just wondering why you changed the alphabetical template at the bottom of the above page to chronological and why you omitted the given names of the candidates? The template is plainly labeled "alphabetical," and the reader has no idea who these people are without the given names. I have changed it back. Thanks in advance for responding. GeorgeLouis (talk) 13:03, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You probably shouldn't have done that. At present, the template bucks the trend of how similar templates in the category are formatted.  Templates for political office nearly always follow the format I have them in, with officeholders listed chronologically.  Virtually ALL templates only list people by their last names, except in cases where there are two people with the same last name.  Compare Template:Attorneys General of California.  The purpose of both that template and of this one is to provide easy access between officeholders, not to provide a comprehensive list.  p  b  p  14:16, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I certainly disagree. Kindly point out where there is WP:Consensus for this list of truncated names. Thank you. GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:33, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Dude, just look at how other templates for holders of political officer are organized. Look at how Template:Attorneys General of California is organized, and what pages it is on.  Look at how Attorney General of California is written.  Also, you don't seem to understand why I edited Attorneys General of California in the manner I did.  I made the table sortable, which means you can click something and it changes the way the table is organized from chronological to alphabetical.  If what I'm doing still doesn't make any sense to you, feel free to discuss my edits on a community noticeboard.  p  b  p  02:14, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

I asked for a Third opinion. By the way, my name is not "Dude." I refer you to Civility. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 04:44, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

DRV
Hi PBP, Infuture If I close something and you disagree I have no issues with you either asking me to reopen it or going to DRV but if you do the latter please make sure it's a week/month old AFD instead of it being a 7 month old one - You could've simply renominated it and came to the desired outcome a week ago....., Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 03:45, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I considered it, and I will probably do that in the future. Heck, I'll nom that dude for deletion next week.  p  b  p  03:48, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Haha don't blame you, Hell I'll even !vote Delete aswell and so will most of DRV by the looks of it – Davey 2010 Talk 03:58, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, you'll get your chance right now. I yanked the DRV and nommed it.   p  b  p  04:03, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Holy crap you don't wait about eh, Thanks for closing btw :), Happy Editing :) – Davey 2010 Talk 04:34, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

ITN
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Edit summaries
Just a friendly tip: Edit summaries are not the place to converse with other editors. They are supposed to be used to sum up the editing. i think you know that but perhaps, in the heat of controversy, you might have forgotten. GeorgeLouis (talk) 04:51, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Funny how you give me advice while you don't really listen to the things AHeneen and I say, for example, throwing the word "consensus" around, when there already is a consensus...for not doing what you want. p  b  p  13:58, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Change of name
Hello, Purplebackpack. I wanted you to be among the first to know that I have changed my username to User:BeenAroundAWhile. That’s because I have, well, been around a while — 83 years to be exact, on April 8.

First, I want to apologize if I have upset you with some of my recent edits. I know how it is to work hard at a Wikipedia project only to have it criticized and (perhaps) eventually shot down by other editors whom you don’t even know. Obviously I don’t mean anything personal by my edits, and I make them only because I think they will be good for the encyclopedia.

I notice you had an article deleted: Atlantic Monthly Top 100. Too bad. I had one deleted, too. I think it was called List of California public officials charged with crimes. I liked it, and worked hard on it, and it was a good article, with EVERYTHING properly cited, but others did not think so. Oh, well. You can’t win ‘em all.

But I did want to introduce myself. For a good many years I have specialized in creating or editing Wikipedia articles about Los Angeles — its neighborhoods, its history, its public servants — oh, all that stuff. I have either originated or contributed to most of the articles on Los Angeles City Council members and Los Angeles city attorneys, dating back to 1853. I’ve been able to use my L.A. Public Library card to good advantage over the Internet, even though I don’t live in L.A. any more. I’m glad you share my interest in L.A. history.

I suppose I am addicted to Wikipedia. As a former newspaper reporter and editor, and a journalism professor of a quarter century specializing in writing and editing, I can’t keep away from hammering away at a keyboard in a manic attempt to edit and to create. I have tried to take breaks, but it is an impossibility. Not only do I have my watch list of favorites, but I also hover like a vulture over the Recent Changes page and pounce on any submissions that are found wanting. Oh, well. (As I said before.)

As you know, I’ve taken a break from our discussion about improving the templates associated with Los Angeles City Attorney, but I plan to return to it after my week is up. I hope that our chats over there will be friendly.

Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Glad to know who you are. Apology accepted.  p  b  p  00:40, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Color graphics for Infobox college football player
PBP, here's a taste of how the revamped infobox is going: Template:Infobox college football player/testcases. What do you think of the colors, graphics, and layout and design -- and the "college varsity stripe" graphics in particular? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Presidential birthplaces
I added a link at the end of the article that list all presidential birthplaces. Damn that Andy Jackson and his unknown state of birth. Czolgolz (talk) 04:51, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. p  b  p  15:17, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Criticism of the Boy Scouts of America listed at Redirects for discussion
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Resurrection of Southern California Task Force
After moving from Los Angeles County to Kern County to San Luis Obispo County, I am finally realizing that there is life in California outside of L.A. and San Francisco, where I lived and grew up. Oh, I have also lived in San Diego, San Bernardino, San Joaquin, Yolo and Sacramento counties, and I earned my undergraduate degree in Riverside County. I am trying to breathe life into the Southern California Task Force, and I hope you will join me. Could you visit our list of participants at the other end of this link and update your description of what you are interested in doing for us, assuming that you still want to be in the mix, that is.

In recompense, I will buy you a drink during the Wikipedia Welcome Week I am planning for Morro Bay on the Central Coast in July. Yours sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2015 May newsletter
The second round one has all wrapped up, and round three has now begun! Congratulations to the 34 contestants who have made it through, but well done and thank you to all contestants who took part in our second round. Leading the way overall was in Group B with a total of 777 points for a variety of contributions including Good Articles on Corona Borealis and Microscopium - both of which received the maximum bonus. Special credit must be given to a number of high importance articles improved during the second round.
 * was one of several users who worked on improving Ulysses S. Grant. Remember, you do not need to work on an article on your own - as long as each person has completed significant work on the article during 2015, multiple competitors can claim the same article.
 * took Dragonfly to Good Article for a 3x bonus - and if that wasn't enough, they also took Damselfly there as well for a 2x bonus.
 * worked up Alexander Hamilton to Good Article for the maximum bonus. Hamilton was one of the founding fathers of the United States and is a level 4 vital article.

The points varied across groups, with the lowest score required to gain automatic qualification was 68 in Group A - meanwhile the second place score in Group H was 404, which would have been high enough to win all but one of the other Groups! As well as the top two of each group automatically going through to the third round, a minimum score of 55 was required for a wildcard competitor to go through. We had a three-way tie at 55 points and all three have qualified for the next round, in the spirit of fairness. The third round ends on June 28, with the top two in each group progressing automatically while the remaining 16 highest scorers across all four groups go through as wildcards. Good luck to all competitors for the third round! , and  16:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Dry counties in the United States
Category:Dry counties in the United States, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor(talk) 06:38, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Message
Hello Purplebackpack89, I thought that you have a time machine to travel into those years but if the time machine doesn't appear in real life look at those years to travel into the future: --182.191.176.170 (talk) 08:47, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
 * 1885
 * 1936
 * 1979
 * 2003
 * 2017

CFD
Regarding this (which I have reverted); one you need to declare NACs; two this is not clear-cut so please leave those kind of calls to admins; and three these are templates not articles. GiantSnowman 09:49, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * , it was inappropriate for you to reopen the discussion as you started it. In regards to NAC, the discussion has been open over a month, and admins have had plenty of time to close this.  I am seriously considering undoing your revert.  p  b  p  16:08, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * And, indeed, I am removing the templates from tagged articles. I have re-closed it, but noted it was a NAC.  The consensus was clear: 70-80% of the people in the discussion wanted to keep the categories (The consensus was 7-2 in favor of keeping).  If you object to this closure, please discuss it at ANI, DRV, or requests for undeletion.  As you are the nominator, reopening the discussion yourself would be inappropriate.  p  b  p  16:39, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * If you are wondering, "why weren't they deleted?", the reason I had to close as keep was because your nomination had too many disparate categories in it, some of which had 30-40 articles in them. That is why most people couldn't support deletion.  I have worded the close to allow you to renominate IF you nominate a much smaller list of categories and/or you confine your nominations to categories with three or less articles  p  b  p  16:56, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. GiantSnowman 18:29, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You're wasting your time. It's not going to get closed any differently, and there doesn't appear to be any stomach for reprimanding me.  p  b  p  19:18, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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The finals for the 2015 Wikicup has now begun! Congrats to the 8 contestants who have survived to the finals, and well done and thanks to everyone who took part in rounds 3 and 4.

In round 3, we had a three-way tie for qualification among the wildcard contestants, so we had 34 competitors. The leader was by far in Group B, who earned 1496 points. Although 913 of these points were bonus points, he submitted 15 articles in the DYK category. Second place overall was at 864 points, who although submitted just 2 FAs for 400 points, earned double that amount for those articles in bonus points. Everyone who moved forward to Round 4 earned at least 100 points.

The scores required to move onto the semifinals were impressive; the lowest scorer to move onto the finals was 407, making this year's Wikicup as competitive as it's always been. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:


 * , who is competing in his sixth consecutive Wikicup final, again finished the round in first place, with an impressive 1666 points in Pool B. Casliber writes about the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy.  A large bulk of his points this round were bonus points.
 * , second place both in Pool B and overall, earned the bulk of his points with FPs, mostly depicting currency.
 * , first in Pool A, came in third. His specialty is natural science articles; in Round 4, he mostly submitted articles about insects and botany.  Five out of the six of the GAs he submitted were level-4 vital articles.
 * , second in Pool A, took fourth overall. He tends to focus on articles about cricket and military history, specifically the 1640s First English Civil War.
 * , from Pool A, was our highest-scoring wildcard. West Virginia tends to focus on articles about the history of (what for it!) the U.S. state of West Virginia.
 * , from Pool A, likes to work on articles about British geography and places. Most of his points this round were earned from two impressive accomplishments: a GT about Scheduled monuments in Somerset and a FT about English Heritage properties in Somerset.
 * , from Pool B, came in seventh overall. RO earned the majority of her points from GARs and PRs, many of which were earned in the final hours of the round.
 * , also from Pool B, who was competing with RO for the final two spots in the final hours, takes the race for most GARs and PRs—48.

The intense competition between RO and Calvin999 will continue into the finals. They're both eligible for the Newcomers Trophy, given for the first time in the Wikicup; whoever makes the most points will win it.

Good luck to the finalists; the judges are sure that the competition will be fierce!

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Category:Strawberry sodas
Category:Strawberry sodas, which you created, has been nominated for deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 00:03, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Dry places in New Jersey
Following the "keep" closure for the CFD of Category:Dry places in New Jersey, I've followed the closer's recommendation and submitted a new CFD to rename it to Category:Dry municipalities in New Jersey. Please offer your opinion at Categories for discussion/Log/2015 September 16 if you have one. Nyttend (talk) 15:26, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Frederick Trump
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 14:09, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Good work, congrats! Vesuvius Dogg (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks man! p  b  p  19:19, 25 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Nice creation. Considering the popularity of Trump articles (THEY NEVER LOSE!) it should get some good views.--Milowent • hasspoken  22:25, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing the view count tomorrow morning. FWIW, it may not be an article much longer...somebody has started a notability discussion on the talk page.  If they DO nominate it for AfD, I can compare him to Barron in the following ways:
 * Frederick is dead, Barron is living
 * Frederick reached his majority in 1887, Barron hasn't yet
 * Frederick did all he did before Donald was born (28 years before); Barron's life has thus far overlapped with Donald's
 * Somebody wrote a book where Frederick is one of the principal characters; Barron, eh, not so much
 * Frederick did some meaningful things; Barron, eh, not so much

Well, fun while it lasted. p b  p  22:31, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2015: The results
WikiCup 2015 is now in the books! Congrats to our finalists and winners, and to everyone who took part in this year's competition.

This year's results were an exact replica of last year's competition. For the second year in a row, the 2015 WikiCup champion is. All of his points were earned for an impressive 253 featured pictures and their associated bonus points (5060 and 1695, respectively). His entries constituted scans of currency from all over the world and scans of medallions awarded to participants of the U.S. Space program. came in second place; she earned by far the most bonus points (4082), for 4 featured articles, 15 good articles, and 147 DYKs, mostly about in her field of expertise, natural science. , a finalist every year since 2010, came in third, with 2379 points.

Our newcomer award, presented to the best-performing new competitor in the WikiCup, goes to. Everyone should be very proud of the work they accomplished. We will announce our other award winners soon.

A full list of our award winners are:


 * wins the prize for first place and the FP prize for 330 featured pictures in the final round.
 * wins the prize for second place and the DYK prize for 160 did you knows in the final round (310 in all rounds).
 * wins the prize for third place and the FA prize for 26 featured articles in all rounds.
 * wins the prize for fourth place
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize.
 * wins a final 8 prize and the FL prize for 11 featured lists.
 * wins the most prizes: a final 8 prize, the GA prize for 41 good articles, and the topic prize for a 13-article good topic and an 8-article featured topic, both in round 3.
 * wins the news prize for the most news articles in round 3.

We warmly invite all of you to sign up for next year's competition. Discussions and polls concerning potential rules changes are also open, and all are welcome to participate. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2016 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.

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 * It's about damn time you got around to pinging me. Seems like everybody else got pinged before I did.  p  b  p  16:10, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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Drumpf - Trump - brothel owner and so on!
Drumpf isn't a family name that can be found in the whole area of Kallstadt. If you want to change something in de.wikipedia write in the topic discussion and show yours sources or literatur.

I'm working on the brothel issue(s): Donald Trump's grandfather ran Canadian brothel during gold rush He was running a brothel in USA then in Canada. The Canadians thrown him out. I think he wanted to do the same business in Bavaria. --Goetzmertz (talk) 00:59, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It looks like you've followed me from German Wikipedia to here. Since you are here, you can check out the English-language sources that give his birth name as Drumpf, or suggest that we list his birth name as Trump (and providing sources of course).  p  b  p  01:08, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The english Version was fine till this: "Fredrick Trump Sr's real name was Friedrich Drumpf; Drumpf is a common name associated within the area of Kallstadt, 2nd German Empire, this an obvious ploy by Donald Trump or supporters to dissociated himself from his grand-fathers shady past". 1) Drumpf isn't a common name. 2) Donald's Grandpa was a brothel owner. 3) Donald's daddy was a liar about grandpa's origin and name.


 * I looked into the Kallstadt's graveyard books from 1650 - 1800: No "Drumpf" and 37 x "Trump". The Gwenda Blair's story about the 1600s lawyer Drumpf could be true. --Goetzmertz (talk) 01:41, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit confused why you're talking to me about that. I didn't put the "common name" stuff in the article.  The article isn't protected or anything, if you believe the "common name" part doesn't belong, you could remove it.  Or you could discuss it on the talk page.  p  b  p  01:45, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, the article Frederick Trump doesn't contain the "common name" verbage you were talking about. But, again, I say, if you don't like the way it's written, change it or discuss it at Talk:Frederick Trump.  As for the "brothel owner" business, it is mentioned that he owned a brothel.  I don't think you could get away with his pimping being said any more overtly than it currently is.  p  b  p  01:49, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Here is your Link "common name": https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Frederick_Trump&type=revision&diff=692731106&oldid=692545024 Just won't disfigure articels in the future. Thank You! --Goetzmertz (talk) 02:08, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Random-ass fact
Donald Trump's Wikipedia article calls him a fascist in the lead. Fascism is mentioned 193 times in Mussolini's article, 4 (and not in the lead) in Hitler's. p  b  p  13:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

WikiCup 2016 is just around the corner...
Hello everyone, and we would like to wish you all a happy holiday season. As you will probably already know, the 2016 WikiCup begins in the new year; there is still time to sign up. There are some changes we'd like to announce before the competition begins.

After two years of serving as WikiCup judge, User:Miyagawa has stepped down as judge. He deserves great thanks and recognition for his dedication and hard work, and for providing necessary transition for a new group of judges in last year's Cup. Joining Christine (User:Figureskatingfan) and Jason (User:Sturmvogel 66) is Andrew (User:Godot13), a very successful WikiCup competitor and expert in Featured Pictures; he won the two previous competitions. This is a strong judging team, and we anticipate lots of enjoyment and good work coming from our 2016 competitors.

We would also like to announce one change in how this year's WikiCup will be run. In the spirit of sportsmanship, Godot13 and Cwmhiraeth have chosen to limit their participation. See here for the announcement and a complete explanation of why. They and the judges feel that it will make for a more exciting, enjoyable, and productive competition.

The discussions/polls concerning the next competition's rules will be closed soon, and rules changes will be made clear on WikiCup/Scoring and talk pages. The judges are committed to not repeating the confusion that occurred last year and to ensuring that the new rules are both fair and in the best interests of the competition, which is, first and foremost, about improving Wikipedia.

If you have any questions or concerns, the judges can be reached on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, on their talk pages, or by email. We hope you will all join us in trying to make the 2015 WikiCup the most productive and enjoyable yet. You are receiving this message because you are listed on WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 (talk), Figureskatingfan (talk), and Godot13 (talk).--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Wishing you all the best . ..
Merry Christmas, PBP, and may your holidays be [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvfhoWIPoVw merry and bright. . . .] Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 06:47, 22 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you! p  b  p  11:59, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

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Bob Verini listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Bob Verini. Since you had some involvement with the Bob Verini redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. AldezD (talk) 21:17, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I have undone your removal of the Verini and Newhouse sections from the Jeopardy! contestants article.  Please do not again try to remove it.  I have also added references to the Verini section, which you could have easily found yourself before claiming he wasn't notable.  p  b  p  21:35, 29 December 2015 (UTC)