User talk:Purplebackpack89/Archive 8

FIBA
Hey, please just add scores when a quarter is finished. Kante4 (talk) 00:15, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * First time someone wants to point that out, never had problems with it and don't know why there was a problem. Just reverted to the last "good" version and explained what was wrong. Kante4 (talk) 00:22, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OK...just be aware of this in the future. In other news, what is up with this Nigerian team?  Coming out of nowhere to beat Lithuania and Greece.  I hope the DR pulls it out...I really wanna see Horford in the Olympics.  p  b  p  00:30, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I somehow like them both. Wanted them both in but i go with Nigeria, love their passion and fans. Kante4 (talk) 00:32, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Vital articles
I'm not usually that bold, in altering large projects. I have written a lot on the talk page and got only a little feedback, so I decided to add and delete what I thought was appropriate, without asking as much, but it's only my oppinion. The reason I deleted Old Fashioned was I've never heard of it, it is not a very long article and is not in many different language Wikipedias, so I presumed it to not be important, but if you want to re add it I shall leave it there. I am trying to remove and add what I believe others agree with, it can always be changed if I am wrong. Thanks for your feedback to my questions and editing. Carlwev (talk) 19:57, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * There are a lot of things in the food section that I'd say are borderline; others are miscategorized (for example, vinegar as a condiment. I know it's used as salad dressing and is an ingredient in ketchup and mayonnaise, but isn't it more of a liquid?) This had been that way since before I was on the VA beat.  We may want to go through it with a fine-toothed comb, clean up the categorization and delete redundancies and articles of lesser import  p  b  p  23:03, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Roster templates
Hello.

The purpose of Template:2012 Summer Olympics United States men's basketball team roster is totally different from that of Template:United States Men Basketball Squad 2012 Summer Olympics, which you redirected it to a couple of days ago.

The former is supposed to be used in articles Basketball at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's tournament and United States at the 2012 Summer Olympics in order to save both space and maintenance. In other words, it's a convenience template.

The latter is a footer template, meant to be included in articles covering the players mentioned in the template, for easier cross-navigation between them, i.e. it's a navbox template.

I see that you and a couple of other editors have helped creating the Basketball at the 2012 Summer Olympics – Men's team rosters article. Well done. One thing though: do you have the sources?

I'll see if I can put each team roster in a separate template, for the above mentioned reasons (saving space and maintenance). See Category:2012 Summer Olympics football team roster templates to get the idea.

Cheers.

HandsomeFella (talk) 21:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I mostly did the USA. USA's can be found in a number of places; this is as good as any. For others, check here, though they may not be up to date. I hoped you asked around for the others that I added. p b  p  22:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

TheIrishWarden
What bad edits have I been making? How am I meant to improve when no-one tells me what I have done? Also the garden strawberries things I was right and wrong. The person put in a joke something like 'I am the lord' so I gave joke warning then they did a good edit about pine berries but it was un references and un cited so I reverted but didn't give a warning. How is that bad? I'd rather people give me help instead of moaning like EggCentric continuously for a week. Thanks TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 09:01, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You don't quite understand the system yet. I don't think it's right for EggCentric to jump all over you in the way he did; but, to be honest, I don't think complaining about it is going to help.  I've learned from experience that it'd be better to just wait it out and let it pass, rather than complain about how others perceive you.  I doubt that EggCentric will get a consensus to stop you from editing (except for perhaps a very short amount of time), so just ignore him and make some solid edits to pages  p  b  p  15:16, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 July newsletter
We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees  in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's  follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 22:31, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of Chinatowns in the United States for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Chinatowns in the United States is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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AUS NT
Yeah, I don't know tbh. Sorry man. Fair call. Don't really care. DaHuzyBru (talk) 07:56, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

csd of afc
We delete declined AfC submissions only if the meet on of the general requirements for csd. This does not include lack of notability. (and we do not usually do so for G11, either, just for copuyvio and absuse & vandalism) I have therefore removed your csd notice from Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Scott Dawson Evangelistic Association. I have also reverted your blanking, as i see no reason for it. .If you have listed other AfCs similarly, please review them.  DGG ( talk ) 19:26, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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George Tomlinson (bishop)
Hi there - I have removed the merge tag from this article as you did not start a subsequent discussion and the individual seems notable enough as a Bishop not to merge. Regards, GiantSnowman 12:58, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Re: Olive (color)
I guess our big issue is differing ideas about the scope of the page. That it's about the name seems clear to me by the inclusion of "black olive", which I will strongly note, is already included on the page and has been since long before I began editting it.

Secondly, I dispute that "avacado" really falls into the "olive" range, as it's too creamy, for lack of a better term. That is, it's too diffuse, and not within the expectations of "olive". That it's another shade of green-yellow, and somewhat similar is true, but not one people would include as a shade of olive. (Hence the seperate name.) I believe including it is OR.

Likewise, insisting "olive" is a shade of yellow because of interpretation of one web color's RGB coordinate is also pretty darn OR. It was especially bad in the previous versions; one cannot say "it's clearly yellow because of the absence of blue". Not only is that drawing an original conclusion, it's a false one as "yellow" connote be defined so formulaicly, not can any color. When the vast majority of sources call olive a shade of green (and Merriam-Webster defines it as a "yellowish green"), insisting on calling it yellow is not acceptable. oknazevad (talk) 00:44, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 August newsletter
The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:
 * 1) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
 * 2) led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
 * 3) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
 * 4) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
 * 5) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
 * 6) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
 * 7) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
 * 8) is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.

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The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)
Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page. In this issue: Read the entire first edition of The Olive Branch -->
 * Background: A brief overview of the DR ecosystem.
 * Research: The most recent DR data
 * Survey results: Highlights from Steven Zhang's April 2012 survey
 * Activity analysis: Where DR happened, broken down by the top DR forums
 * DR Noticeboard comparison: How the newest DR forum has progressed between May and August
 * Discussion update: Checking up on the Wikiquette Assistance close debate
 * Proposal: It's time to close the Geopolitical, ethnic, and religious conflicts noticeboard. Agree or disagree?

--The Olive Branch 19:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

United States presidential election, 2012
But they haven't accepted the nomination yet! &mdash; goethean &#2384; 19:36, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
 * So? They've been chosen, there's a 0% chance anyone else will, and it's not speculation that they will accept the nomination...it's been announced that they will formally accept the nomination in a few hours.  Claiming that they should still be listed as presumptive now is just splitting hairs, sorry  p  b  p  19:39, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your patience on the Vital Articles. Narssarssuaq (talk) 18:44, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. Just wait for other people to comment, and, with luck, your changes will be implemented!  p  b  p  18:45, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Not intended as personal attack
I wanted to clarify that I was not attempting to personally attack you on the AN/I page regarding your proposal of a full protection until the election when I posted my strongly worded rebuttal. I just think it's a terrible idea, but I have no doubt you were acting in good faith. Sorry if that read differently than it was intended. Go Phightins! (talk) 18:43, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Aircraft of the President of the President of the United States
Some concerns of you renaming the Army One article to Aircraft of the President of the United States which should have been a new article rather than a move as it messes up the article histories etc. We need to boldy undue your edits and start again I suspect, comment welcome at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 08:56, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Nah, just keep it the way it is. You're overthinking it  p  b  p  15:07, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Portland libraries
Thanks for the feedback on my talk page. For the record, I created no extra work for you -- you chose to volunteer your time and add geocoordinates to the articles. Please keep in mind that this is a volunteer project, and I have no idea how to add geocoordinates to articles nor am I interested in learning how to do so. That being said, I always appreciate when other contributors add geocoordinates to articles, whether or not they are ones I started, so THANK YOU (very sincerely) for doing so. The stubs I created are for a specific meeting, edit-athon and project which will begin soon in collaboration with Multnomah County Library. I understand you might see stubs as detrimental to the encyclopedia, but I happen to believe they are important and encourage participation, especially among new users. All of the articles I created have the ability to snowball into full articles, including potential to reach GA status one day, as evidenced by the Woodstock Library article (referring to its full length, fingers crossed on obtaining GA status in the near future). There is no reason to merge all of the articles, especially considering some of the subjects are Carnegie libraries or even listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Hopefully the articles will not be merged, allowing new editors the opportunity to expand them more easily in the near future. -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 02:58, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Kansas Turnpike exit list
Thank you for creating that table. What you did looks like a good start, so I want to commend you for that. However, we've started a project goal of widely implementing the jctint series of templates for creating and maintaining junction/exit lists. (Some states have a specific version, like MIint for Michigan or KSint for Kansas.)

So I took your table, switched it to templates, which has the advantage that any changes to MOS:RJL can be made to the templates to update the formatting in the articles very quickly. As an example of one of those changes, earlier this year we recoded how the mileage column is set up so that the tables are more accessible for screen readers and other adaptive technologies, per MOS:DTT. We also set up the templates to convert a supplied mileage and display the converted value in kilometers for non-US readers; the templates also handle the reverse if you look at Interstate 19. That means though that the table needs the mileages added. I opened a discussion on Talk:Kansas Turnpike to refine the templatized version of what you added. Once we get it "perfected", we can move it back into the article. (And yes, I support having a table there, just need to do it well since that's a FA.)  Imzadi 1979  →   21:17, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2012 September newsletter


We're over half way through the final, and so it is less than a month until we know for certain our 2012 WikiCup champion. currently leads, followed by, and. However, we have no one resembling a breakaway leader, and so the competition is a long way from over. Next month's newsletter will feature a list of our winners (who are not necessarily only the finalists) and keep your eyes open for an article on the WikiCup in a future edition of The Signpost. The leaders are already on a par with last year's winners, but a long way from the huge scores seen in 2010. That said, a repeat of the competition from 2010 seems unlikely.

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The planning for next year's WikiCup is ongoing. Some straw polls have been opened concerning the scoring, and you can now sign up for next year's competition. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 20:01, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

WilyD
Regarding this administrator, I feel that he may also be supervoting in terms of CSD's and PROD's, one example of which is here. He also has continued the same arguments against mine about that same page, without even rebutting mine, etc. Just in total, if you'd like to request request for de-adminship, I would support it all the more.

Thanks, gwickwire &#124; Leave a message 05:18, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Sleep rape
If I were to start an AfD for this article, would you comment support for it? Because right now it seems futile to open an AfD that would have so much opposition to probably be snowball keep. gwickwire &#124; Leave a message 02:00, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I would, but then you'd probably get it dragged off to the hellhole that calls itself ARS, and then we'd get a big hissyfit. I'd just BOLDly redirect it to something with the edit summary "little or no content, redundant", and if you're reverted, then start a merger discussion to that.  p  b  p  02:23, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Boldidity has come to scare me, as in my experience it leads to incivility. But I think your judgement is correct. I don't know how I'd be in favor of a merger though, because there is no page that is a plausible merge that doesn't already have the information.. So I'll go sneak and go to redirect it. Thanks for the input. gwickwire &#124; Leave a message 02:48, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * As a resident of the hellhole known as ARS, I was surprised to find I was an early editor calling the existence of this article into question. I am fine with the redirect, though if we end up at AfD somehow, its not the end of the world.  I came over here, pbp, however, to ask for your help rewriting Blended learning.  Notability is assured, we just ideally need someone to spend a few hours researching and rewriting, as the project would be enhanced by a well-sourced article on this notable topic. Thanks.--Milowent • hasspoken  05:51, 5 October 2012 (UTC)


 * What's with the ridiculous attack on the ARS? I noticed the article mentioned on WilyD's talk page when there for another reason, and did nothing more than add a wikilink to slut walk and add the proper template.  Does this article have anything at all to do with the ARS?  Was it made or significantly edited by any of its regular seen members?   D r e a m Focus  09:15, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Note above that Milowent mentions editing the article. You and Milowent makes two  p  b  p  13:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah,I edited the article because I suggested it should not exist. This is part of my super-secret ARS plan to never delete any articles.--Milowent • hasspoken  15:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Note
I haven't forgotten about the RfC, and I'm still preparing. IRWolfie- (talk) 21:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Coo coo. Lemme know when it happens  p  b  p  21:13, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Dreams from My Real Father AfD discussion
FYI Please consider withdrawing your delete nom, which automatically causes a Keep. I am an Obama partisan, frequently defending him even against ridiculous attacks from the Left, not just the Right. Nominating a clearly notable film for deletion when its notability stems precisely from how much of a streaming pile of crap it is -- I'm sorry, but that just makes no sense. As I point out in my AfD "P.S." comment, it can even backfire. Is the film infuriating? Of course it's infuriating. That's how it became notable. Wikipedia looking like it's even trying to suppress information about it doesn't work for Obama, or for the truth. In some things, the truth is enough. Yakushima (talk) 04:48, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Pizza cheese merge discussion
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Zuma Dogg
Restored all versions to User:Purplebackpack89/Zuma Dogg. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:42, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you p  b  p  20:45, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 October newsletter
The 2012 WikiCup has come to a close; congratulations to, our 2012 champion! Cwmhiraeth joins our exclusive club of previous winners: (2007),  (2008),  (2009),  (2010) and  (2011). Our final standings were as follows:



Prizes for first, second, third and fourth will be awarded, as will prizes for all those who reached the final eight. Every participant who scored in the competition will receive a ribbon of participation. In addition to the prizes based on placement, the following special prizes will be awarded based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, the prize is awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round.


 * The featured article award goes to, for four featured articles in the final round.
 * The good article award also goes to, for 19 good articles in the second round.
 * The list award goes to, for three featured lists in the final round.
 * The topic award goes to, for three good topics (with around 40 articles) in round 4.
 * The did you know award goes to, for well over 100 DYKs in the final round.
 * The news award goes to, for 10 in the news items in round 3.
 * The picture award goes to, for two featured pictures in round 2.
 * The reviewer award goes to both (14 reviews in round 1) and  (14 reviews in round 3).
 * Finally, for achieving an incredible bonus point total in the final round, and for bringing the top-importance article frog to featured status, a biostar has been awarded to.

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Talkback
Mdann52 (talk) 08:53, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Category:Historians of the United States by state
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Steak-frites
My apologies, I was trying to move Steak frites to the Steak-frites page (I have now found out how to do it properly!) and got it wrong. --Brigade Piron (talk) 17:54, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

The Clydes
Do you (or can you) find a source for the bit you added to Budweiser Clydesdales about them being either a) Ambassadors for the city of St. Louis, and/or b) pulling the float in the Tournament of Roses Parade? It's cool info, but it's best to have citations for all this info, the article is mostly footnoted throughout, and it makes it a lot easier to do improvement later if someone wants to bring it up to GA quality or something... thanks! Montanabw (talk) 22:20, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback
—Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Response
pbp just responded to you on my talkpage. Xvon (talk) 02:33, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

hey responded again Xvon (talk) 04:10, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

again responded @ talk Xvon (talk) 04:51, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

pbp, responded to your recent comments @ my talkpageXvon (talk) 06:50, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

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 * Who falsely informed you, or what led you to the false conclusion that I "Deliberately" introduced incorrect information? I'm extremely interested in discovering the answer to this. (Hopefully this is right this time) Steve406sbc (talk) 04:48, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Chili burger for deletion
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 * Pbp, so I was reading up on "Ptomaine Tommy's" and I'm wondering "what the hell is 'ptomaine'", and learned it was a common reference for food poisoning in the early 20th century -- and something it was thought you could get from eating bad chili! .  Even if chili burger was to get deleted, there is tons of material on which to write a great article on Ptomaine Tommy's.  Fun stuff.--Milowent • hasspoken  15:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Open season
It would appear that our friend's friend gave blessing for open season... Jim1138 (talk) 06:23, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

JPL? I'm a bit worried that he's a little too dug into Category-space...he had 500 edits to CfD pages last month, and most of the rest were recategorizing pages, often BOLDly in the middle of CfDs that aren't going his way. But since Xvon agreed with JPL on that issue, he can do whatever he wants. I think if Xvon keeps doin' what he's doing we'd better ask that he be topic-banned...he's in danger of becoming an SPA p  b  p  06:31, 7 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, in the Russia CfD you wrote: though the author of almost all of them has already commented, so I'm not that concerned about notification. While this proposal seems to be JPL on a personal crusade, I actually think that lack of notification is a crucial failing in the CfD process. It seems to be quite broken, and encourages disruptive changes. While some of the regulars there are quite thoughtful, others that regularly haunt the CfD pages don't seem to want make edits, instead they play with categories and disrupt genuine content-creation. I tried to make them take some responsibility for what they are doing by proposing changes that would make it compulsory for CfDs to post notifications at WP:Projects or article pages, but these have been shouted down as too onerous. If they did, then the discussion might get joined by people who know something about the subject and would want to be involved in any re-categorisations. (I much prefer to edit, but got dragged into the CfD process when I realised that it has the capability to redefine and mess up articles.) OK, Groan over 8-)  Ephebi (talk) 19:09, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * FWIW, I completed notification of all CfDs in the discussion; I see you have notified the Russian WikiProject. I'm not sure entirely where you're going with the comment; but I'm a bit discouraged that the CfD process, and with it much of Wikipedia's categorization system, seem to be dominated by a handful of editors, JPL in particular, who have a set idea of how the category tree should look (to the point of OWNership, IMO) and find it offensive that anyone would disagree with them or tell them their actions vis-a-vis categories are the least bit appropriate  p  b  p  19:19, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Although the Russia CfD should be a straightforward delete/merge, I suspect it may stir things up more than it need. Your point is right, though the dominance of few editors would not be problematic if they avoided pointless reformatting, kept to broadly non-contentious proposals, or had the good grace to discuss topics with specialists who edit the subjects. OWN is huge issue,and drives away genuine expertise from genuine editors. Ephebi (talk) 18:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Quick FYI on this whole "Johnpacklambert/OWNership" thing...I'm starting an RfC about it at User:Purplebackpack89/Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Johnpacklambert. The more I persue his edits, the more disturbing it gets.  Feel free to add to it and/or sign on to my edits.  p  b  p  20:27, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, been travelling so not had time to look at the issues... but just caught a glimpse at latest CfDs and alarmed at the way a host of new Cats were created and populated prior to submitting a CfD (14 Dec) Ephebi (talk) 22:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Which one? Who populated it?  Who CfDed it? Again, if you're worried about JPL, you might want to check out this RfCU I'm starting on him.  I see you tried to reason with him, and he deleted your comment.  This raises major questions about his ability to listen to criticism  p  b  p  22:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Merge Chili burger to Chili con carne
I am letting you know that I have proposed a merge of Chili burger to Chili con carne. Being that you participated in the AfD, I'd be interested in your thoughts. The discussion is at Talk:Chili con carne. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 16:23, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

It was suggested that Hamburger might be a better target, and I was implored to allow that as a possibility. Therefore, I've moved the discussion to Talk:Chili burger to allow for this. Please accept my apologies if it seemed that I was advocating for one solution over another. &tilde;danjel [ talk &#124; contribs ] 16:23, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Let it go, Danjel. The idea of merger was repudiated at AfD, as was the idea that the article was a permastub, AND the idea that it doesn't pass GNG.  There is a miniscule chance that it will be merged.  And I very disturbed at what appears to be payback for Middle Harbour.  What you're doing is a bad parody of what I allegedly do at AfD.  However, I don't comment 30+ times in a single discussion, don't accuse editors of being meatpuppets or flowers, and don't nominate it for merger after an AfD is closed in a clear keep.  You're not only doing a bad parody of me, you're doing an excessively dicky and pointy parody of me as well.  Oh, and stop the HOUNDing  p  b  p  16:34, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind note, you've earned something too!!
cheers!--Milowent • hasspoken 18:55, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm hurt, dawg!--Milowent • hasspoken 04:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Look, most of the time you mean well, but the fact is, sometimes you get a little carried away. And sometimes more than a little, like the "cheese jihadist" thing.  Friends don't call friends cheese jihadists.  My apologies, but I feel that we could benefit from less of that  p  b  p  06:54, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

WP:COMPETENCE
You and JPL need to get over this WP:GRUDGE you two are holding. While it's not a personal attack to start an RFC/U, that one is particularly lame. I strongly suggest you two avoid each other. I'll be glad to block both of you for WP:HOUND if this continues. Toddst1 (talk) 20:51, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Have you looked at the RFC/U? I think there are some legitimate concerns that need to be addressed.  JPL's talk page is filled with messages from other users about his poor record at CfD and adding/deleting categories, problems that are multiplied due to his high volume of edits.  I personally don't consider it "lame", and I take umbrage at being called incompetent  p  b  p  22:21, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

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AFD Canvass
I resent your accusation of canvassing. The notifications I did were entirely within policy as and explicitly listed as "Appropriate Notification" in the policy. I have made no off wiki requests. The anon IP which made the nomination, as well as others which have voted delete, also has no edit history - perhaps gun topics just have increased scrutiny in the wake of the Newtown tragedy and media frenzy. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:45, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * One user is an SPA, another user notes that there's a suspicious level of editors with few or no contributions (who don't know how to use AfD enough to avoid having "Keep" in all caps), and a third is critical of who you messaged about this AfD (heavily tilted toward keeps). I stand by my suspicion of canvassing and SPA activity, and the not-a-vote tag  p  b  p  21:00, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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Burger Wars

 * I know you have the ARS rescue list watchlisted, so no one can accuse me of canvassing (and in fact I don't know what your view will be), but based on our recent chili burger fun, I thought you mind be interested in checking out Articles for deletion/Meatheads Burgers & Fries. I think DGG jumped the gun on the nomination, but the original article was pretty crappy.--Milowent • hasspoken  14:59, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

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