User talk:Pyersqr

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Happy editing! WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:30, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your help. I'm just beginning so I appreciate your pointers. Pyersqr (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Linguistics notation?
In [ this series of edits] to K'iche' language, you've added a number of examples in the Focus Antipassive section that use a notation that, I presume, is understood by other linguists, such as:
 * who   COM-ABS.3.SG-break-FA the bowl

Unfortunately, Wikipedia is not a linguistics text, and the information presented should be as accessible to the general readership as possible. Such specialized notation, without any explanation, is not helpful. Can you please clarify this material accordingly? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 22:30, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for letting me know about this issue. I'll look for other examples of morpheme glosses on Wikipedia. In the meantime, I thought of 3 solutions:
 * 1. Add a table of abbreviations, e.g. COM - completive aspect
 * 2. Use broad categories such as ASPECT instead of specific glosses such as COM
 * 3. Delete the morpheme gloss line
 * Do you have any suggestions? Pyersqr (talk) 22:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * In researching my answer to you, I've discovered that Wikipedia has already solved your problem. There is a template (interlinear that interprets the interlinear glosses and provides tool-tip explanatsions. So
 * who COM-ABS.3.SG-break-FA the bowl
 * becomes
 * which renders as
 * who COM-ABS.3.SG-break-FA the bowl
 * Unfortunately, the interlinear template does not appear to understand your new "focus antipassive" as a unit. You could rewrite as
 * rendered as
 * who COM-ABS.3.SG-break-FOC-ANTIP the bowl
 * But also, according to the documentation of the template, you can add new definitions, but your FA definition would not link to any article, since there is no Wikipedia article on the "focus antipassive". Hope this helps! That said, I'll restore your edits to the page, and let you start updating it with this new template knowledge. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 23:03, 28 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I've updated the article using the interlinear template. I had to add special syntax per the template documentation for the new "FA" class you've defined. Also, some of your other abbreviations were non-standard, so I replaced them with standard abbreviations per this source. Specifically:
 * I replaced INC with INCL (inclusive)
 * I replaced STATUS.IV with Q (question), as this appeared to be the best match given the context. (I presume your "STATUS.IV" was meant to indicate an interrogative verb.)
 * Please feel free to correct these changes if I've gotten them wrong. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your help. Mayanists use INC for incompletive aspect and STATUS for the status terminations on verbs. I'll explore the interlinear template to figure out what the best way of handling language-specific inflections might be. Pyersqr (talk) 14:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Excellent! I appreciate your help on this problem. I looked around Wikipedia for other examples of interlinear glossing and found some examples in the article "Ergative Alignment". My next goal will be to link the information in the K'iche' article on ergative morphology and ergative syntax to the relevant sections in this other article. Pyersqr (talk) 14:42, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your help. Mayanists use INC for incompletive aspect and STATUS for the status terminations on verbs. I'll explore the interlinear template to figure out what the best way of handling language-specific inflections might be. Pyersqr (talk) 14:45, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Excellent! I appreciate your help on this problem. I looked around Wikipedia for other examples of interlinear glossing and found some examples in the article "Ergative Alignment". My next goal will be to link the information in the K'iche' article on ergative morphology and ergative syntax to the relevant sections in this other article. Pyersqr (talk) 14:42, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

In this edit you've added non-standard abbreviations (TV: Transitive verb; IV: intransitive verb; etc.) for morphemes that have standard abbreviations (TR: Transitive verb; INTR: Intransitive verb). Might it not be easier for experienced linguists to use the standard abbreviations? WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:13, 1 March 2023 (UTC)


 * You're right. I'll change those.
 * I also noticed that the section on verb morphology shows verb templates with their "status suffixes". Is there a way to link the status abbreviation to the word status in the verb table? Pyersqr (talk) 15:28, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the anchor Pyersqr (talk) 17:09, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes. I've done it, and you can look at my changes to see how. Basically, I created an anchor in the "Status suffixes" table header, and then linked the ST:Status to that anchor in the 