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Proposed deletion of Gary Schreckengost


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Speedy deletion nomination of Gary Schreckengost


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July 2011
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How to verify copyright permission for article Louisiana Tigers
Hello, Pzrschreck.

Thank you for your interest in donating material from works by Gary Schreckengost to Wikipedia. I realize based on your editing history that there is a very good chance that you are Gary Schreckengost. Since we do not currently have a method in place to verify the identity of account holders at account creation, however, we must verify such donations of previously published text through external processes. The article has been blanked to allow time for that verification to proceed.

In cases such as this, where content has been previously published in books rather than on the internet, verifying permission can be a little complicated. The best method may be for you to send an e-mail to the Wikimedia Foundation to [mailto:permissions-en@wikimedia.org permissions-en@wikimedia.org] or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation indicating that you are the rights holder and that you permit re-use under the CC-BY-SA and GFDL. (Please make sure that you are the rights holder; as Donating copyrighted materials notes, if you've assigned rights to your publisher, it may be their permission we need.) There is a boilerplate release form at Declaration of consent for all enquiries which can be helpful. Please specify by name the article on Wikipedia in which the material is being used. In most cases, it is necessary for us to verify that your email is connected to the author. If your employer, Martin Meylin Middle School, has an email domain, using this address may be sufficient. It would be helpful in that case to point out your biography to make clear the employment status. Alternatively, if you have an official website, we may be able to use that domain.

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The form
Hi. I'm glad you like wiki and appreciate that you are willing to donate your text. :) This is as close to a form as we have. I've personalized it to your situation. If you agree to those terms, the only thing you'd have to change would be the date.

I hereby affirm that I, Gary Schreckengost, am the creator and sole owner of the exclusive copyright of The 1st Louisiana Battalion: Wheat's Tigers in the Civil War (McFarland, 2008). I have placed excerpts from that book on Wikipedia into the article Louisiana Tigers, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Louisiana_Tigers&oldid=480321215.

I agree to publish those excerpts under the free licenses "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts).

I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Gary Schreckengost Author and sole copyright holder [DATE]

So, all you'd need to do is copy and paste the part in the box (if you agree to it) and send it again to the permissions email address. I've operated under the presumption that you would not want to release the entire book under those licenses, as that would allow anyone who became aware of the license the right to reproduce it and sell it for themselves. It's only referring to the specific excerpts you've already chosen to place here.

Please either send it in "reply" to the letter they sent you or include the following in your subject line:

This will make sure it gets to the same agent who handled it the first time, which should speed up the processing.

I hope that this goes smoothly, and I appreciate your taking the time and trouble. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:20, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
I see that you are verifying permission. :) I just want to be sure that you actually mail that letter again to the permissions email address, using  in the subject line, as well as placing the text at my talk page. I'm not permitted to process a permission left on my talk page, I'm afraid. It has to come through email to permissions-en@undefinedwikimedia.org. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I've "cleaned up" the article by removing all of my additions from my book. I withdraw my permission for you all to use it.

Email issues
sorry, Moonrider, but "permissions-en@undefinedwikimedia.org" seems to be a broken link. I'd like to send this form off--we need an easier process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pzrschreck (talk • contribs) 15:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. What result did you get when you sent an email to it? I just tested it, and the email went through just fine. :/ I know your first email to them was received with no issue. It's in their system. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
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Minor edits
Please stop marking edits as minor unless it is correcting a spelling error or the like. If you change the text at all, even if it is a change to only one word, then it is not a minor edit. I can see edits in your history that have made changes of thousands of bytes. This is not helpful to other editors who might want to review your changes. Please see WP:MINOR for more information. It would also be helpful to other editors if you fill in an edit summary each time. Thanks,  Spinning Spark  23:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

November 2013
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Hey, can you read this? I was getting ready to source it...i was going to source the bejesus out of it...but the "source" icon wasn't working. i can't get that sucker to work.
 * Hi Schreck, if the source icon (assuming you mean "cite" on the toolbar above the editing window) is not working, there is also a tool called User:ProveIt GT that should work better. Let me know if you need assistance. Thanks.  Go  Phightins  !  19:42, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, you guys wiped out everything I did--about 2 hours of work...good stuff, too. I wish I would have had the oppty to 'splain what was going on instead of getting the axe. anyway to put back what I did? and then maybe, if I can't figure it out, you put my cites in the bottom?
 * OK, Schreck. I reinstated all of the content that removed as unsourced. It is now there for you to cite - if you are having trouble doing so, this page describes how to cite sources on Wikipedia. The easiest way is to use the form that is in blue atop the editing window, clicking on the tab that says "cite", choosing templates, and then selecting and filling in the form there, and clicking insert. Insert a reference immediately after the content you introduced that the source substantiates. Again, let me know if you need help.  Go   Phightins  !  21:35, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Hey, thanks, brother. I'll work on that tomorrow, OK? If there's a problem, just let me know and we'll work it out. I totally understand what you guys are doing and 100% support you. I take this seriously. I have Lenape lineage and am a PhD candidate at PSU. This stuff I'm putting in will eventually be in a book. Anyway, thanks for helping out. See you tomorrow! Schreck
 * Sounds good, Schreck. By the way, you have an email.  Go  Phightins  !  21:53, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I can't answer your e-mails, right? Anyway, I'm pounding out the references now. Did you all disable the internal links to other Wiki pages?
 * You should be able to reply to emails. I disambiguated the internal links, meaning some pointed to a disambiguation page, such as Conestoga - I went through and fixed them to send them to the pages you intended (or at least I think you intended).  Go   Phightins  !  20:36, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

December 2013
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Lenape. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. -Uyvsdi (talk) 21:04, 1 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

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Alright, fellas. Ich gebe auf. First I got hit for not citing enough. Most of my citations were in fact from published sources. Granted, many published sources about my people are jacked, as most people don't understand the language, or saw them or us through their eyes but not the eyes of the people themselves. We have the history right, but many of the nuances are off. I was just trying to help. I'll not waste neither your time nor my time. I mean, you deleted 90% of what I wrote and noted--not 10% of original.... and that was AFTER I was asked to cite more. OK, man. Ich verstehe. Sorry for the issue. I do appreciate Wiki, though, and so do my students. I guess we'll just have to wait until I get my book published.


 * You could just try proper citation of reliable, published secondary sources with page numbers. If you are working on a book, you'd want to be more meticulous there than here, since your professional reputation will be on the line, especially if you are an educator. The last Munsee speakers are in the Moravian Indian Reserve No. 47, and the best source of material today for Unami is Lenape Language Preservation Project. They are both still living languages active in their respective tribes. -Uyvsdi (talk) 23:50, 1 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

OK, we're not here to get into a pissing match. I used primary sources...I get it...but then you state, "you'd want to be more meticulous there than here, since your professional reputation will be on the line, especially if you are an educator..." Yes, I know. Everything I wrote was accurate and based on source. It's fine if you don't want to use it. Thanks for the Munsee info, but the Munsee are a different people. As for your Lenape link, yep, it's good...it's cool. But again, everyone I've talked to goes by my line of reasoning. You're inferring that what I wrote was inaccurate. It was not. I don't understand the purpose of you telling me that there are still some speakers. I know that. By looking at your time zone, I can't imagine you'd even know what's going on with real life Lenape people. But I guess the punishment phase is just beginning. You all should delete my stuff in Wheat's Tigers while you're at it, too. If you don't want people to make additions, then don't ask for any. But then again, you may be a prolific writer and a native speaker. If so, then get in there and improve said article, SVP.


 * Why not simply read the protocols about citation of reliable, published secondary sources? These are the standards that all editors are held up to. If you want to contribute, you are more than welcome, but you have to use verifiable, published secondary—not primary—sources. -Uyvsdi (talk) 04:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

OK, mista. I'm not trying to be difficult and understand your position. I like your page on Lenape Hoking, but then again, some minor changes are needed. All one has to do is use your very own link to the "Talking Lenape Dictionary." BTW, the Carmen book is RIFE with errors. He was right about the clans...but he did not foot note the names for the sub-clans. They may be right, but they don't translate. Anyway...take care.


 * You're expected to sign your posts with four tildes ~ ~ ~ ~ (with the space removed) and your user name. I assume that is you (Pzrschreck) commenting while not logged in??? If Carmen is rife with errors, then what is a better, published secondary source? He credits Lewis H. Morgan for orthography. -Uyvsdi (talk) 17:58, 2 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Nomination of Gary Schreckengost for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Gary Schreckengost is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Gary Schreckengost until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Dude, just delete it...I don't know how I could ever reach self-aggrandizement...
 * Feel free to post in the discussion: Articles for deletion/Gary Schreckengost. -Uyvsdi (talk) 04:34, 2 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

December 2013
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 * Nittany]]  --from Unami-Len'api term Netami'ing, which means "The-first-place." . Brinton, Daniel G., C.F. Denke, and Albert Anthony. A Lenâpé - English Dictionary. Biblio

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 * Nittany]]  --from Unami-Len'api term Netami'ing, which means "The-first-place." . Brinton, Daniel G., C.F. Denke, and Albert Anthony. A Lenâpé - English Dictionary. Biblio

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Conestoga
Do you have a source for the etymology you've just added to Chickies Rock? I've usually seen the word translated as "place of the submerged pole". Choess (talk) 21:08, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Yep...I got it...coming lad/lass (thanks for calling me on it--my family is old len'api--we just take this stuff for granted and get pissed that it has to be sanctified by somebody else--people who misquote the mis-quoters (like donehoo). i'm working on a book now. first in family to get the phd to finally have the street-cred to back it up. anyway, Schowanneck (white) writers have gotten this wrong for 200 years. "Con" means "rock" in most Eroni languages. "Can" means pole. Can'a'da, for example, means buried-pole-place or house or town. the can'a'da at con'esto'ga was south of it--at present washington boro. north of it was con'e'wa'ga or rock-and-water-place. whites call this 'falls.' up north, can'ee'en'ka mean sharp stone place (flint)--it's where the mohawks lived...ti'con'a'wa'ga means two-stone-and-water-place. anyway, the white sanctification will come from zeisberger--but remember, nobody ever wrote the language of the people of conestoga down. they were southern eroni, breakaways from ononda'ga and onon'yot-ah'da...and that aint in no book written by a schwanneck! that's why i won't put it into wiki...because that part needs to be sanctified by my book after it goes through its white approval process...because lord knows, we can't know our own story! gahhh! hey, thanks for doing what you do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.152.217.241 (talk) 21:25, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


 * No problem, thanks. Didn't mean to question your veracity; as you say, there's a lot of junk etymology floating around, and it's best to tie it down to *something* to keep it secure here. (The WP:RS approved-by-authority thing definitely wards off some evils at the expense of others on a very broad scope—not just native tradition.) Good luck with your Ph.D; I'm really glad someone is recording these things so the rest of us will believe it. ;) Choess (talk) 03:50, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

December 2013
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Lenape. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. If you are quoting a source, use the actual quote. Please don't change the words from the source. -Uyvsdi (talk) 20:17, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Lenape, you may be blocked from editing. Seriously, please stop changing the words from quoted sources. -Uyvsdi (talk) 20:42, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

Brother, they are quoted sources...read the quotes. i'm simply linking and clarifying with your own article on unalachtigo. may I finish the edit please? it's still a little choppy and I wasn't totally finished until you cut me off. other editors are far-more easy to work with. are you telling me that those words do not exist? are you telling me that your unalachtigo page is wrong? let me finish and then you may, of course, as editor, "fix" it to your own satisfaction. I don't know what words I changed from the source, etc...
 * Having been able to read the exact text from the book, I had to change your paragraph in Lenape twice to reflect what is printed in the book. You are in a PhD program; I know you know how to quote sources.-Uyvsdi (talk) 21:11, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

yes, sir/ma'am I be...I don't know exactly what you're specifically talking about, but it's called creative friction...are you telling me that the page is weaker now than when it was when I started poking into it? I think that we made a better page--up and me. you don't have to be so hostile. I asked if I could chat with you BEFORE I posted...but got no response. and when I post on Wiki...I need to see it...play with it. look at the susquehannock article I helped improve. the editor there asked a question and I made the change. anyway, may I finish the edit and then you can do with it what you want? I was going to help flesh out some more of the historical period stuff but since this page seems to be yours, I'll take a pass. anyway, I'll just need 5 or so more minutes. BTW, thanks for helping Wiki.

Hello, I'm GregJackP. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Lenape, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. ''Also Susquehannock and Lenapehoking. Self-published, print-on-demand books are not acceptable as reliable sources. '' GregJackP   Boomer!   22:41, 8 December 2013 (UTC) Thanks Greg, I left a source--or was in the process of it when your pal cut me off at the knees. I also appreciate the fact that you're willing to work with me. But, you know, the insults get old. I was actually trying to link together your own sites with reality. I come from an old Lenape family and for 300 years we've had to listen to Schowanneck tell us about us...by using "published sources" that weren't right to begin with. BTW, Gregg, in the susquehannock article, I quoted stuff from Wallace a lot. why was that removed?`
 * I understand, I descend from the Menominee, although I don't have enough blood quantum to enroll. My cousin was married to a Lenape woman.  IIRC,  is an enrolled tribal member, although I don't remember what tribe.  My suggestion would be to post what you want to add to the talk page, sign your post with 4 tildes ( ~ ), and discuss it with him.  He's quite reasonable and helpful.  Part of the problem is that at Wikipedia, we only used previously published sources, so sometimes we have to figure out how to get to what the real information is into the article.  Sometimes we can't do it.  Anyway, talk to Uyvsdi, he'll help.   GregJackP   Boomer!   23:13, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a "he," this isn't personal, I haven't insulted anyone, and the warning templates are standard Wikipedia templates designed for repeated violations of WP:original research. I'm posting these templates because there is no abatement of the original research, so I need the assistance and perspective of other experienced editors. -Uyvsdi (talk) 23:23, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

OK, he and she. Hello. Uyvsdi, when you say things like "does not know how to cite..." or "You should know better..." it sounds a little insulting. I'd rather talk with you FIRST before posting...you and I both know that too many of the "sources" are jacked. I simply don't know how to talk directly with you. I tried the "talk" but I don't think I did it right. My e-mail is schreck@ptd.net. I'd like to share with you what I have. I understand the Wiki policy...I just have trouble interpreting it, I guess. My family was one of the ones who "stayed behind..." Anyway, when my stuff gets "sanctified" by Schowanneck in a book (the Wiki Holy Grail), then we'll be OK. e.g., why do we have to divide our languages by what the French say? why not Len'api and Eroni? As for the Susquehannock article, most of what I said today came directly from Wallace...directly. Would you all read it again and only toss the Onondaga language stuff? Aint no way "Conestoga" means "buried pole place" You know it; I know it. Also Uyvsdi, you know full well that Conewago is not Lenape, it's, uh, Iroquois. People around here even know that. On another note, when I did the Tiger Rifle article (I wrote THE book on it), I got a lot of push back for Wiki on that, too. And then when I allowed Wiki to have large chunks of my book (I like Wiki), the complaint was "too long," etc. So I waited for three years for somebody to clean it up...and nobody did. So, I just removed 95% of it. Just tell me, straight up, "hands off." I get that. (The hot red Stop sign). But, if you think I'm onto something, let me know, and I'll share. I don't care who posts it. Uyvsdi can post it. Other than that, I know the score and will not post on Wiki again. You two take care and have a nice day/night. Keep sticking it to the man...
 * Granted, I waste too much time on Wikipedia but I would much rather spend my time creating new articles than cleaning up articles. I'm not going to contact you or anyone else here off Wikipedia. I've been repeating the same thing over and over to no avail. There is no room in an encyclopedia for original research. Please read the linked essay. And Conflict of interest is also something to read. If a spelling doesn't appear in a reliable, secondary, published source, it does not belong here. -Uyvsdi (talk) 01:28, 9 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

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Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Conewago Creek (east), you may be blocked from editing. -Uyvsdi (talk) 23:24, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

This is your last warning. The next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Conewago Creek (west), you may be blocked from editing without further notice. -Uyvsdi (talk) 23:25, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Uyvsdi

A bowl of strawberries for you!
thanks man, but then, after all the work, somebody will swoop in and say, MINE! NO! Ma'ta! Solo mio! I guess I'm just not cut-out to be a Wiki contributor. I also found it interesting that, by somehow adding things, I'm "self-promoting." Anyway, Thanks for YOUR kinds words. I think I'll just stick to a-work' on my book.


 * Well yes, you've run into headwinds as you've discovered that what goes on here is mostly formatting and linking some basic facts to help people make sense of original materials, and providing citations and links to the academic researchers such as yourself. We're not really writing original materials so much as adding context to help make sense of what's already out there.


 * That said, there is a spot here where someone with your background could really make a major contribution-- the Lenape Wikipedia. It's still in a test phase, at the "Incubator." You'd pretty much have the Lenape Wikipedia to yourself at this point ... until we get enough Lenape speakers up and running :) Could be a real help to the folks trying to learn Lenape ... just a few quick articles about everyday things, like, "You plant corn after the frost. You can roast corn on the cob over the fire. It is also good in soup. Children play with cornhusk dolls ..." Or a Lenape bio of Nelson Mandela-- you could be creative on deciding where to start.


 * I've done a bunch of work on Cheyenne Wikipedia, and haven't run into problems. Give it a try just for fun, you would be doing some student of the language a real favor. And I highly doubt anyone will give you a bad time about it; if they do, we'll just tell them to transcribe your articles into their preferred spellings, and do two versions of each article. Djembayz (talk) 19:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Wow...very nice. I'd like to pitch my stuff to other scattered people in the know so we can get the story more right. IF you're willing to help me--and not be a dique--i'm all in. i mean, my people have lived here for a long time (germans since 1764 and Len'api since...). the only thing that keeps us here in this ate-up backwards-ass state is our connection to len'api'hak'ing and our graves. we're under an occupation gov't called USA...sometimes good--sometimes not. i'd want to clarify our place names...what we called ourselves...and our history. i'm using 90% Schowanneck-sanctified resources--it's just when we use our 10%, then they go ape-shit on "documents" (and for wiki--it's what library book was that in...) okay, i'll start slow...small steps...and see what happens. i'd be looking for feedback...creative friction...with people in-the-know. my goal is to replace CA Weslager's account. this is why i'm in an american studies program (at Penn State) because it's all-encompassing--written history, language, culture, etc. the profs there actually dig me because i'm different--a published combat veteran from the woods of PA...anyway, thanks for the strawberries to offset all the raspberries... with the help of Kit'at'it-o'wet, i shall write this book before i die... for my ancestors and decedents and all those who are actually interested...

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 * TY for replying. Can you at least pair me up with an accepted editor to fix the stuff that's wrong with it? I didn't think that an obit and autobiography weren't acceptable sources. As nobody has written a book about frazier, and I know that wiki likes secondary sources, i thought it would be ok. as for coi...fair enough. I was honest to you who i was. if you or somebody else could just look at what i have here, wordsmith it how you want, and/or request more info, i'd be willing to help. but like you said, it's a slow traffic page. Pzrschreck (talk) 15:23, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

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