User talk:Quail & Metal

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Happy editing! DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:40, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Star-Club Show 4


The article Star-Club Show 4 has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Unsourced stub with no indication of notability"

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 * Hi — I've PRODded this, because an unsourced single-sentence stub is not an article, as it provides next to no information, and no evidence of notability. If you plan to expand on this and add references, please feel free to do so, of course, in which case you can also dePROD it. I would also say that any content you may be thinking of adding needs to be more than just the bare minimum, ie. what's already covered in the article on the band, as this may otherwise be replaced with just a redirect to that article. Cheers, --DoubleGrazing (talk) 08:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! + WikiProject Albums resource
Hi Quail & Metal! Thanks for your work on the L'Rain albums; sorry I needed to shuffle the debut around a bit. :)

I'm noticing you're getting some flags for notability, so it might be good to check out some of the info on the WikiProject Albums page; the main takeaway is that not every album is "notable" enough to have its own article on Wikipedia, and creating a page with very little information or no reliable sources will almost definitely result in deletion. Your first draft of L'Rain (album) was an example of that, especially because there wasn't a page up for L'Rain at the time (I just happened to be drafting one when your article popped up).

That said, your work on Fatigue (album) looks *way* better, so you're clearly figuring things out… & experimental music definitely needs more enthusiastic Wikipedians! Another good way to learn the ropes is to look for album (or artist) articles that already exist & work on adding more material (&/or making corrections) to those.

Also, if you click on your own username here: Quail & Metal, you can create a page for yourself as a user; it can be a nice way to keep track of what you're working on or list your interests. If you do that, I'd recommend adding a shortcut for the WikiProject I mentioned, in the form of a userbox; the page has lots of good info, & you're clearly already doing the work! If you copy/paste this–– ––it'll show up as this:

Just be sure to add

beneath the infobox or the formatting will get all funny.

Take care! And if you have any questions, feel free to drop by my talk page. // Knifegames (talk) 22:26, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Use *sandbox* before creating new articles
Hi again––I mentioned this in a response on my own talk page, but in case you didn't see it: please work on drafts in your sandbox before creating new pages. You're publishing articles before you have any content; outlining / prep-work should be kept in your "userspace", off the "main" part of Wikipedia. Once you have a draft that looks good, you can head to "Articles for creation", hit the blue "Click here to start a new article" button, & copy/paste your draft there.

I mentioned that not every album is "notable" enough to have its own article, & now I'm seeing you've made a new article for a song that isn't particularly well-known. Please review some of the policies & links users have provided for you here; it's great to have you, so let's not have your work go to waste! Knifegames (talk) 04:19, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
Please refrain from making edits on Wikipedia pages such as those you made to Sound & Color, without first discussing your changes on the article's talk page, Your edit(s) require discussion to establish consensus as this is considered a type of change that other editors should be allowed to comment on. Your edits do not appear to have been discussed and have been reverted. Thank you. - FlightTime Phone  ( open channel ) 02:28, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

At Pioneer Works
It's a great album, but I don't know that I'd call it "definitive"--I still like the first one best. Thanks for writing it up. Drmies (talk) 02:18, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

In Situ (EP) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, In Situ (EP), is not suitable as written to remain published. Notability is not justified by the available references. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. DMySon (talk) 17:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Disambiguators
Please note that Wikipedia does not use years to disambiguate between albums of the same name, but the name of the artist instead. Accordingly, I have moved Reflection (2021 album) to Reflection (Loraine James album). The reason for this is that it's unlikely that a casual reader will remember the year a particular album was released in 10 or 20 years' time, but is much more likely to remember the name of the artist who recorded it. Thank you. Richard3120 (talk) 15:52, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mommy Issues (EP)


A tag has been placed on Mommy Issues (EP) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a musical recording which does not indicate why its subject is important or significant, and where the artist's article does not exist or is eligible for deletion itself. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for music.

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Your edits at Dawn FM
You don't need to go overboard with sources, just one or two sources that focus on the same topic (See WP:CITEKILL). TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 00:18, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Another thing, make sure the genres you added in articles are explicitly stated in the source (See WP:EXPLICITGENRE). TheAmazingPeanuts (talk) 03:35, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Androgynous Mary
Hello Quail &#38; Metal,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Androgynous Mary for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the album, song or discography is significant enough to be included in an encyclopedia, and the artist doesn't have an article of their own.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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Hughesdarren (talk) 21:48, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello! Is it alright if it's kept for now? I created a page for both Indigo De Souza and quintet Wednesday's albums. Pages for the artists were created shortly after their publication.

I hope a craft a good page for a band that could use more attention.

Sincerely, Quail and Metal Quail &#38; Metal (talk) 21:59, 11 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, An administrator already deleted the page, it might be a better idea to use your sandbox and you can keep articles that you are working on until they are ready for the mainspace. Regards. Hughesdarren (talk) 01:13, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice! I'll admit that I should be more cautious and prepared when it comes to making new pages.

Sincerely, Quail &#38; Metal (talk) 02:02, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:In Situ (EP)
Hello, Quail &#38; Metal. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:In Situ (EP), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 18:02, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:In Situ (EP)


Hello, Quail &#38; Metal. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "In Situ".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 01:16, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

"Nina" Sinephro and disambiguation of article titles
Hi. I am very confused as to how you spent over an hour editing Space 1.8 several days ago and didn't realise that you had used the disambiguation "Nina Sinephro album" in the title when her name is Nala Sinephro. I have moved the article to the most basic title without incorrect disambiguation. The article should have either been created at or already moved over the top of Space 1.8. For future reference on how to title music articles, please see WP:NCMDAB. Thank you.  Ss  112   20:11, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Please read WP:EXPLICITGENRE
Before you add another genre to any infobox on Wikipedia. Your lack of understanding of how a review an album carrying the "stylings" or the "pace and precision" of a genre is not the same as saying it is those genre(s), as demonstrated at Hellfire (Black Midi album), concerns me.  Ss  112   13:44, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. After reading the essay, I apologize if you wasted your time revising something that was shoddily made. To be honest, while placing some of those genres in, I wasn't sure if they qualified to be there. I should've taken that as a sign that they didn't. In the future, I'll make sure to use only the clearest information when working with genres. Thanks - Quail & Metal Quail &#38; Metal (talk) 14:30, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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no wp:self published source
Per the discussion at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums/Archive_46#Piero_Scaruffi_-_Final_Verdict_on_using_him_as_a_source_in_reviews there's a very clear consensus here that Scaruffi is not to be used as a source in music/album articles in any capacity. So please, do not add his opinions anymore. It is a wp:self published source. Since this is a long running dispute, any contributor warned by the situation and who doesn't respect it, would encounter sanctions and could be blocked from editing. Thanks. You've been informed because you used this source here. Woovee (talk) 22:05, 6 July 2024 (UTC)