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Tech News: 2022-46
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * At Wikidata, an interwiki link can now point to a redirect page if certain conditions are met. This new feature is called sitelinks to redirects. It is needed when one wiki uses one page to cover multiple concepts but another wiki uses more pages to cover the same concepts. Your feedback on the talkpage of the new proposed guideline is welcome.
 * The www.wikinews.org, www.wikiversity.org , and www.wikivoyage.org portal pages now use an automated update system.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * There will be a new link to directly "Edit template data" on Template pages.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg Wikis where mobile DiscussionTools are enabled (these ones) will soon use full CSS styling to display any templates that are placed at the top of talk pages. To adapt these “talk page boxes” for narrow mobile devices you can use media queries, such as in this example.
 * Starting in January 2023, Community Tech will be running the Community Wishlist Survey (CWS) every two years. This means that in 2024, there will be no new proposals or voting.

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:53, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Great baths (disambiguation)
Hello, Qwerfjkl,

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Speedy deletion nomination of Great Baths (disambiguation)
Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Welcome to Wikipedia! I edit here too, under the username MPGuy2824, and I thank you for your contributions.

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-MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:28, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Citizens through descent categories deletion question
Hi, I saw that you closed the discussion Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_November_6 as merge per proposal – the proposal being for "citizens of X by descent" categories to be merged to "people with acquired X citizenship" categories – despite there being: I agree with the first and last !votes, and perhaps the category should have been split so that there will be less confusion in sorting the articles, but in any case, three contrasting !votes is not a consensus at all, and I don't believe this discussion should have been closed. I am here to encourage you to reverse the merges and relist the discussion, rather than taking this to the more laborious WP:DELREV. Kingsif (talk) 23:57, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * 1 !oppose, as the result would be confusing. A comment against this from the proposer acknowledged that there are two 'categories' of people included in the category to be merged and a better solution could be discussed.
 * 1 !merge per proposal, and
 * 1 !merge to a different set of categories, as the commenter noted that more articles in the category were "citizens of X nationality born abroad" than those who later acquired citizenship
 * @Kingsif, I agree this should be relisted. I didn't notice the second merge !vote mentioned different merge targets. — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:07, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Kingsif, . — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:47, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks! Kingsif (talk) 22:43, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

DabCatter
DabCatter is working well but I found one minor issue: the page may get deleted between compiling the list and editing the page. I think the only cases are Great Baths (disambiguation) and Great baths (disambiguation). Can you check the page still exists immediately before editing it? Certes (talk) 23:48, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Certes, sure, I just didn't think any would get deleted. I could also check if it's already tagged with R to disambiguation page. — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:03, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
 * We're now down from about 1300 to 27 untagged redirects: query/68885. The ones I checked are now.  Would another run pick these up, or shall I edit them manually? Certes (talk) 12:08, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Certes, I've added the exists check, and I've run it on those pages. — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:53, 18 November 2022 (UTC)

Category:Ancient Egyptian Royal Seal-bearer
Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Did you intend to tag this category page for deletion? You closed a CFD with this category as a merge but the other category has not been created yet. Please do not just close the discussions but also handle the follow through on what should happen with the categories involved in the discussions. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:40, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz, As with, I've listed the category on the WT:CFDW page. — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:06, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #547
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Discussions
 * New requests for permissions/Bot:
 * Cewbot 5
 * Task/s: Add sitelink to redirect (Q70893996) for sitelinks to redirects without intentional sitelink to redirect (Q70894304).


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #130, November 27 at 13.00 UTC
 * Wiki <3 Data - How to use Wikidata for data visualization. Join us on Monday 28 Nov. from 13:15 - 17:00 at Aalto University in Espoo, Finland or online! - Hosted by Visual Communication Design programme at Aalto Arts, workshop by Yamen Bousrih.
 * Next Wikidata Bug Triage Hour about Entity Schemas and other topics, on December 6th at 17:00 on Jitsi
 * Ongoing:
 * Weekly Lexemes Challenge #68, SI base units


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * Apple Podcasts is auto-tagging episodes with topics
 * Papers
 * Recommendations for use of annotations and persistent identifiers in taxonomy and biodiversity publishing — covers a range of identifiers (including Wikidata ones) for taxa, people, institutions and other entities relevant to biodiversity studies
 * Videos
 * Wikipedia Weekly Network - LIVE Wikidata editing #99 - YouTube
 * The Greek Wikidata community celebrates their 10th birthday (Part 2) (in Greek) - YouTube
 * Round table "Women, Science and Wikidata" (in Catalan) - YouTube
 * Working for the Invisible Machines or Pumping Information into an Empty Void? An Exploration of Wikidata - YouTube
 * Import Wikidata into an RDF based Ontology using Apache Jena - YouTube
 * SMWCon 2022 - Day 3 - Wikidata Synchronization for the CEUR-WS publishing platform - Tim Holzheim - YouTube
 * Sitelinks wikibase cloud - YouTube


 * Tool of the week
 * User:Nikki/LinkLabelsToLexemes.js is a userscrip that links Labels to Lexemes.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * User:BrokenSegue/PsychiqConflicts is a model that tries to predict the instance of (P31) or subclass of (P279) of unlabeled items. You can play with it and leave Daniel some feedback.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: build system, tiratge, official demo URL, pinout, sitemap URL
 * External identifiers: Annales des mines person ID, Baidu Tieba name, DrugCentral ID, Probes And Drugs ID, Musicsperlacobla sardana ID, Musicsperlacobla composer ID, Boig Sardanista sardana ID, npm scope, IRIS UNICT author ID, IRIS UNIME author ID, IRIS UNIPA author ID, IRIS UNIKORE author ID, Hlídač státu person ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: has visual representation, chapter and verse in the Bible, commit hash, official server list URL, translation management URL
 * External identifiers: Datastory Glossary ID, SNE publisher ID, Livres Hebdo ID, Can I Play That? Games Codex game ID, AniList staff ID, ECOF saint ID, DFK Paris person ID, Epigraphic Database Heidelberg (EDH) ID, Packard Humanities Institute Greek Inscriptions ID


 * Query examples:
 * Finding the first revision and original creator of items with mwapi
 * Mastodon accounts (with Twitter equivalents) (source)
 * Gender balances of winners of literary awards (source)
 * Newest templates:
 * Template:Quickquery can be used to quickly write and link SPARQL queries on the Wikidata wiki


 * Development
 * REST API: continuing work on adjusting JSON request and response format (T321459)
 * Lexicographical data:
 * Added separation between identifiers and other statements on Lexemes (T318310)
 * Fixed the case where language fallback indicators where shown on Special:NewLexeme when they should not be (T322687)
 * Adjusted the help link for the spelling variant input field (T315161)
 * Mismatch Finder:
 * Finished work on better handling of dates (T288511)
 * Finished work on allowing mismatches with empty Wikidata values to make it possible to use the Mismatch Finder also for suggesting missing data (T313468)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2022-47
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The display of non-free media in the search bar and for article thumbnails in Special:Search has been deactivated. Further details are in T320661.

Changes later this week
 * There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:19, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox/34 (November 22)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Gobonobo was:

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Qwerfjkl/sandbox/34 and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Question from Ameer al safar (08:17, 22 November 2022)
Hi Mentor, When I recently created a film article, I found the producer Sandip Senan and director Tharun Moorty don't have a Wikipedia article, when I check to create Sandip Senan, I found there are some warnings about previous deletions. Could you check and advise me regarding this? Do I need to try it or avoid creating it ? awaiting your response. --Ameer al safar (talk) 08:17, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ameer al safar, it appears the page was moved to draftspace because it was not ready for mainspace, at Draft:Sandip Senan, and then deleted because that draft was abandoned (CSD G13). You can request it be restored at Requests for undeletion/G13. — Qwerfjkl  talk  13:24, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @user:Qwerfjkl Hey, just got it recovered, could you check? Only the filmography section I can add, some rest details are there, could you give me an advise that do I need to work on it or not? Because now I have doubt that the topic is eligible or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameer al safar (talk • contribs) 07:04, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ameer al safar, it could be notable under either WP:FILMMAKER or WP:GNG. The subject seems to have produced a lot of notable films, so they might be notable. — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:12, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok will collect more details as I can. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ameer al safar (talk • contribs) 07:16, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Eton college categories
You closed the CFD Categories for discussion/Log/2022 November 14 in accordance with the unanimous opinion. Thank you. Sadly the outcome is unreasonable. For example the bot upmerged the category at John Moyer Heathcote which had the effect of removing the article from the Category:English barristers tree because Category:Barristers educated at Eton College was a subcategory of that also (see archive) and so the English barrister category was not required directly in the article. This seems likely to be a general problem. I have corrected only two cases. What should be done? Thincat (talk) 11:58, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The creation and populating was done by Rathfelder quite recently at his usual breakneck speed. (People educated at Eton are of all nationalities, so the inclusion was wrong anyway.) Would it be possible to undo the edit made by Rathfelder to populate the category? Most of the Eton categories will be OK but I agree that barristers will not necessarily be in another 'barristers' category. Clergy too perhaps. (This said, an upmerge to 'English barristers' (or British would be better) would be correct most of the time.) Oculi (talk) 13:07, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I was wondering if some sort of mass revert might have been (be?) better. I could only find James Douglas-Hamilton, Baron Selkirk of Douglas as a probable example of someone misclassified as an English barrister (either by "nationality" or discipline). Thincat (talk) 15:35, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Thincat, @Oculi, the edits by the bot as a result of this CFD can be found here. I could add the pages to another category fairly easily.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1669220702256:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:25, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for you reply. I am completely out of my depth on how to deal with things. I wonder if could take this on. There are potentially a large number of pages and the categories that have gone  missing are important. Thincat (talk) 16:47, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I would then suggest an upmerge by bot to 'English barristers'. Oculi (talk) 20:21, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Oculi, from Category:People educated at Eton College?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1669239919098:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:45, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * From Category:Barristers educated at Eton College. To undo Rathfelder's edits such as this. (Barristers are not in other more specific categories, it seems.) Oculi (talk) 13:07, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Oculi, . (190 pages)<span id="Qwerfjkl:1669307824220:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:37, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. Commendably efficient. Oculi (talk) 18:12, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #548
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;">


 * Discussions
 * Open request for adminship:
 * ChristianKl 2 (RfP scheduled to end after 4 December 2022 17:22 UTC)
 * New requests for permissions/Bot:
 * Identifier sync bot
 * Task: Add database identifiers to items, mainly journal article items.
 * BorkedBot 9
 * Task: Import values of YouTube handle based on YouTube channel ID (P2397) and vice versa.
 * Botcrux 11
 * Task/s: Replace stated in (P248) to publisher (P123) where the value is World Athletics (Q1158).


 * Events
 * Upcoming:
 * Save the date! The next WikidataCon will take place on October 28-29, 2023, and will be organized by Wikimedia Taiwan and Wikimedia Germany. The hybrid event will be streamed from Taipei and accessible for everyone online. More information and updates on d:Wikidata:WikidataCon_2023
 * Next LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call November 29, 2022: We will be discussing openly managed data gathering and management with Holly Little (Smithsonian), Sabine von Mering (Museum für Naturkunde), Erica Krimmel (Florida State University), and Debra Paul (University of Illinois)! Agenda
 * A Hands-On Introduction to Wikidata: Thursday December 1, 2022 at 17:00 UTC. By the end of this session, you will be able to edit Wikidata records about the cultural venues that matter most to you.
 * Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #131, December 4 at 13.00 UTC
 * Past:
 * Wikibase live session (November 2022) log


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * When information expands, ronnabytes and quettabytes come to the rescue.
 * Understanding the Knowledge Graph: Examples, Uses and More
 * Plotting the age of parliament with Livebook
 * Programming Languages Influence Ranking
 * Papers
 * Mapping Process for the Task: Wikidata Statements to Text as Wikipedia Sentences
 * KnowGL: Knowledge Generation and Linking from Text
 * Videos
 * LIVE Wikidata editing #99
 * WikiMentorAfrica - Displaying Wikidata DataViz on external web pages day - YouTube (part1, part 2)
 * Wikidata Workshop (Digital Humanities on Wikipedia - Archiving of COVID-19 under debate) (in Portuguese) - YouTube
 * Creating a Wikidata item (in Estonian) - YouTube
 * Wikidata 10th Birthday Taiwan: Wikidata Cross-Domain Forum 2022 (in Chinese) - YouTube
 * The past and future of Wikidata in Taiwan
 * An Attempt to Connect Wikidata with OpenStreetMap
 * Wikidata teaching experience in National Cheng Kung University's "Integrating Wiki into History Teaching"
 * Is it composition or construction? Talking about the System Thinking of "Data Translation" Opening up in Data Dictionary
 * Other
 * Summary of the tabular style data discussion at Wikidata 10th Birthday in Utrecht, the Netherlands


 * Tool of the week
 * The user script User:Ainali/common-properties.js shows the most common properties using a specific value (video (YouTube))


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * OpenCheck is a new effort to build an open community-powered identity verification system, among other things with the help of Wikidata.
 * The Digital Benin website is linking to Wikidata identifiers, making more exploration and understanding possible beyond what the site itself has: https://mastodon.art/@openartdata/109380697777661025
 * Wikidata is on Mastodon: wikis.world/@wikidata. Remember to toot using the #Wikidata hashtag so people can find related topics.
 * New product managers have joined the Wikimedia Deutschland development team:
 * Arian Bozorg, Junior Product Manager for Wikidata
 * Jon Amar, Wikibase Suite Product Manager


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties: ‎fedpress.ru person ID, ‎UNIMARC: Medium of Performance ID, ‎OVO ID, ‎Best Western hotel ID, ‎Culinary Heritage of Switzerland ID, ‎New Zealand Legislation ID, ‎Travel Weekly hotel ID, ‎fruit color, ‎e-mail unsubscribe URL or e-mail, ‎Accor hotel ID, ‎OpenCritic outlet ID, ‎Aathavanitli Gani film ID, ‎ID of část obce díl, ‎Livres Hebdo ID, ‎AniList staff ID, ‎Dictionary.com entry, ‎Golfdata ID, ‎Collins Online English Dictionary entry


 * New property proposals to review: Verbalization by lexeme, Cultural Good of Croatia ID, access via, Occitanie Livre et Lecture ID, The Britannica Dictionary entry, image of feces, image of fauna tracks, hackage package, Packagist package, supports authentication method, package registry usernames, Go package path, Dongqiudi.com player ID, Plazi reference ID, Kanjipedia ID, kino1tv.ru ID, EuDML journal ID, Jiten Online kanji ID, lexeme of other gender, serves resource, YouTube handle, Wikimedia Phabricator project, ISFDB award ID, Trismegistos author ID, Africultures Structure-ID, African American Visual Artists Database ID, Lighthouse Directory page, UniProt Disease ID, Google Product Taxonomy ID, object pertains to, negates property, GCD issue ID, mongoltoli.mn lexeme ID, toli.query.mn lexeme ID, toli.gov.mn lexeme ID, Nîmes cemetieres person ID, LMÍ id, kód adresního místa podle RÚIAN, IdnaMapping, экологическая группа растений, International Computer Game Collection work ID, JLect entry ID, Scottish National Dictionary lexeme ID, Au Senate ID, manchu.work lexeme ID, Israeli Opera site (English) person id, of instances of, subclass of with uncertain existance, vazn, ForPost persons ID, Crimean virtual necropolis persons ID, Sense relationships connected to semantic roles, TV Maze episode ID


 * Query examples:
 * Translated Wikidata property labels (top 100 languages) (source)
 * Dentists who are notable footballers (source)
 * Map of obelisks over 40 m high (source)
 * Notable doctoral student/advisor pairs where at least one of them is within the Wikidata:WikiProject NZThesisProject (source)
 * Wikimedia affiliates on Mastodon (source)


 * Development
 * REST API:
 * Finished the adjusted statement data structure (T321459)
 * Simplifying the structure of sitelinks in Item data (T321483)
 * Simplifying the value format for entity ID, time and globecoordinate value types (T322734)
 * Investigating the way forward for rate limiting (T322746)
 * Ontology issues: Preparing a survey for re-users of Wikidata's data about the different types of ontology issues and which ones are causing the most issues for application builders
 * Mismatch Finder:
 * Finishing the work on making it possible to provide mismatches with an empty Wikidata value so the tool can also be used to suggest new data (T313468)
 * Finishing the work on better handling of calendar models and precision for dates (T288511)
 * Lexicographical data: Fixing bugs:
 * Improved the markers that indicate the field is required input (T322683)
 * Improved a help link (T315161)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Go through the list of pages with and update them either to  or remove the sitelink. We have worklists for many languages.
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2022-48
<section begin="technews-2022-W48"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * A new preference, “Enable limited width mode”, has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also available as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. It allows for increasing the width of the page for logged-out and logged-in users.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-sync.svg Some wikis will be in read-only for a few minutes because of a switch of their main database. It will be performed on at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis) and on  at 07:00 UTC (targeted wikis).
 * Mathematical formulas shown in SVG image format will no longer have PNG fall-backs for browsers that don't support them. This is part of work to modernise the generation system. Showing only PNG versions was the default option until in February 2018.
 * On some wikis that use flagged revisions, a new checkbox will be added to Special:Contributions that enables you to see only the pending changes by a user.

Future changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg How media is structured in the parser's HTML output will change early next week at group1 wikis (but not Wikimedia Commons or Meta-Wiki). This change improves the accessibility of content, and makes it easier to write related CSS. You may need to update your site-CSS, or userscripts and gadgets. There are details on what code to check, how to update the code, and where to report any related problems.

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Growth team newsletter #23


Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!

Highlights

 * Mentorship: We released the new structured mentor list to all wikis. This change makes mentorship easier to setup, manage and use.
 * Positive reinforcement: An improved impact module is available for testing.



Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test
The goal of the Growth team is to encourage newcomers to try editing for the first time, and encourage them to keep editing. We want to increase newcomers' motivation by showing them how impactful their edits are.

Newcomers have access to an impact module; you can find yours at Special:Impact. The revised impact module provides new editors with more context about their impact. It will display the number of edits, the number of thanks received, the last time they edited, the number of consecutive days they edited, and the number of views for the articles they edited.

This module will soon be available at our pilot wikis starting December 1. You can already test this new module at Beta Wikipedia. For safety reasons, do not use your regular account and password at Beta wiki. Create a new, specific account for this wiki, with a different password.

Structured tasks: improvements based on patroller feedback
After the deployment of Structured tasks, we received feedback from various communities regarding how patrollers of recent changes were feeling overwhelmed by an increase in edits to check, and how some edits were poor quality or of poor relevance.

We made several improvements based on the feedback we received. Several points of improvement have already been addressed:
 * Patroller fatigue:
 * By default, newcomers can complete up to 25 "add a link" tasks and 25 "add an image" tasks per day. If patrollers are overburdened, each community can use Special:EditGrowthConfig to lower that limit.

The Positive Reinforcement project will also address some of the concerns around encouraging newcomers to progress to higher value edits. The Growth team will soon work on strategies geared at "Leveling up" newcomers so they progress from easy to more difficult tasks.
 * Quality of edits: what constitutes a "quality edit" is not a well defined concept. We initiated a discussion and summarized our findings. We also worked on the following improvements:
 * Add a Link
 * Underlinked articles are now prioritized, so it's less likely that newcomers are adding links to articles that are already have a lot of links.
 * The confidence score was increased, so suggestions are more likely to be accurate.
 * The default number of suggested links per article has been lowered to 3. This can be changed at Special:EditGrowthConfig. Communities can also exclude articles containing certain templates or categories from being suggested.
 * Add an Image
 * Lists will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
 * Disambiguation pages will no longer receive "add an image" suggestions.
 * We have many further improvements we plan to make to "add an image" in early 2023.

Recent changes

 * All Wikipedias now have the same onboarding experience. Previously, at a few wikis, 20% of new accounts didn't get the Growth features when they created their account. These 20% of new accounts were used as a control group, in order to know if the Growth features were changing newcomers' behavior. Experiments have shown that Growth features improve activation and retention, and as we want to provide the same onboarding experience at all Wikipedias, we have decided to remove the control groups. We will utilize control groups when testing new features, and German Wikipedia keeps a control group at their request.
 * The quality score for "add a link" suggestions will change. We will suggest less links for each article, but they will be more accurate. We will first deploy it at our pilot wikis, and then to all other wikis where this feature is available.
 * Growth's features FAQ has been updated and expanded. This page centralizes all the information about Growth features. We invite you to read it, and, if you can, to translate it.

News for mentors

 * All Wikipedias can now setup and manage a mentorship program in an easier way.
 * We changed the process to make it more reliable, easier to improve and easier to use.
 * Wikipedias where mentorship hasn't been enabled yet can turn mentorship on following a new process. When done, mentors can sign-up by visiting.
 * Wikipedias where the list of mentors already existed have been converted to the new system.
 * A new special page —  — now displays the list of mentors. This page can be transcluded on any other page. There are also new processes to signup as a mentor or to quit mentorship, and we improved community mentorship management.
 * The Mentor dashboard's "Your mentees" module will have a new footer, called "Recent changes by your mentees". This footer will include a link to Recent changes, where mentors can see only edits made by their own mentees.

Deployments

 * Add a link has been deployed to a 5th round of wikis.

Improving this newsletter
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Question from Ameer al safar (07:58, 30 November 2022)
Dear Mentor, I have created a bio article Sreejith Sarang, he is one of the well-known editors in India. could you check and advise me on anything else I should improve? The article has a deletion history 3 years back. But I believe that he is eligible with his current portfolio. I have added a stub temp too, as the article lacks some information. Please check and give me a concise advice. --Ameer al safar (talk) 07:58, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ameer al safar, it was deleted per Articles for deletion/Sreejith Sarang as failing WP:GNG. You need to make sure there is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".<span id="Qwerfjkl:1669799392123:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  09:09, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2022).

Administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg Eddie891 · Euryalus · TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg Alex.muller · Excirial · RedWordSmith · Ron Ritzman · TheresNoTime · Stephen

Interface administrator changes
 * Gnome-colors-view-refresh.svg TheresNoTime
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

CheckUser changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

Oversight changes
 * Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news
 * Consensus has been found in an RfC to automatically place RfAs on hold after one week.
 * The article creation at scale RfC has been closed.
 * An RfC on the banners for the December 2022 fundraising campaign has been closed.

Technical news
 * A new preference named "Enable limited width mode" has been added to the Vector 2022 skin. The preference is also shown as a toggle on every page if your monitor is 1600 pixels or wider. When disabled it removes the whitespace added by Vector 2022 on the left and right of the page content. Disabling this preference has the same effect as enabling the wide-vector-2022 gadget.

Arbitration
 * Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 12, 2022 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.
 * The proposed decision for the 2021-22 review of the discretionary sanctions system is open.
 * The arbitration case Reversal and reinstatement of Athaenara's block has been closed.
 * The arbitration case Stephen has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 1 December 2022.
 * A motion has modified the procedures for contacting an admin facing Level 2 desysop.

Miscellaneous
 * Tech tip: A single IPv6 connection usually has access to a "subnet" of 18 quintillion IPs. Add  to the end of an IP in Special:Contributions to see all of a subnet's edits, and consider blocking the whole subnet rather than an IP that may change within a minute.

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Question from Akashbajwa111 (19:58, 2 December 2022)
Does Wikipedia pay? --Akashbajwa111 (talk) 19:58, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Akashbajwa111, pay editors? No, see WP:VOLUNTEER.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1670017323709:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:42, 2 December 2022 (UTC)