User talk:Qwerfjkl/Archive 29

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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Comment/question: What is wrong with this stupid bot? what are the mistakes!

RodrigoIPacce (talk) 16:38, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @RodrigoIPacce, you need to add a to those references. —  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:44, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * If you want to opt out of notifications, you can add  to the top of your talk page. —  Qwerfjkl  talk  16:45, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * For example, with this edit, you should have used:  — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:49, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * What is wrong? I cited an error! It was wrong, I corrected it and added my source! Done! RodrigoIPacce (talk) 16:59, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @RodrigoIPacce, the problem, as I have highlighted, is that you have not added a title. — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:00, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Why is that necessary? RodrigoIPacce (talk) 17:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It's the same topic RodrigoIPacce (talk) 17:04, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @RodrigoIPacce, it is helpful because it gives readers an idea of what the URL links to, rather than the ugly URL, as well as helping combat link rot. See WP:Bare URLs. — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:12, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry for calling you a stupid bot... I feel stupid. RodrigoIPacce (talk) 17:20, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @RodrigoIPacce, no problem, although please remain civil. — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:24, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Please forgive me RodrigoIPacce (talk) 17:29, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

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'''I'm not sure what exactly the bot is indicating.... I think this has to do with a duplicat esource I added by mistake and then took away but not sure'''

Saussure4661 (talk) 22:28, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Saussure4661, you added the reference:  without adding a . See WP:BAREURL for why titles should be added. —  Qwerfjkl  talk  09:18, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I'll insert it automatically instead of manually, I hope that fixes it Saussure4661 (talk) 15:41, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

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Sanford Levinson

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sanford_Levinson&diff=prev&oldid=1151551821

Comment/question: Fixed on April 25, 2023 (over a week ago) by replacing publisher= with journal=

Allreet (talk) 13:58, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Allreet, yes, but the bot notified you at 4 April 2023, 20:32, the day before you fixed it. — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:04, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I figured we "crossed in the night" somehow but just in case, I thought it'd be good to let you know. Allreet (talk) 12:01, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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Page: The Demon Headmaster (2019 TV series)

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Comment/question: This wasn't a "false positive" per se. This was an AWB (AutoWikiBrowser) edit, the bulk of which didn't have anything to do with referencing. The part that Qwerfjkl picked up (the referencing error) was actually an automated genfix (general fix) from AWB. It was inserting a missing closing tag for the cite template ("}}"). So Qwerfjkl probably didn't pick this missing title previously because the cite template wasn't actually valid, whereas after my edit the genfix made it a complete cite. So that's the background. Here's my comment: I'm not sure if it's worth pursuing, but since AWB is applying a genfix in these kinds of instances, it might be worth pointing out to the AWB folks to include screening for bare URLs or missing titles in references in that kind of situation. Just throwing that out as an idea. If it's not worth pursuing, just disregard.

Butler Blog  (talk) 14:07, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Butlerblog, I'd take this as a GIGO situation. It may not be worth warning for, but if you want to pursue it, feel free to start a discussion at WT:AWB. I could set the bot to ignore edits made with AWB, though as AWB is semi-automated it's probably best not to. — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:57, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Large nomination
Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion pointed me here for large CfD nominations. I have started preparing a nomination to move all Category:Olympic alpine skiers of Albania to Category:Olympic alpine skiers for Albania for sports×countries following their parents' name format Category:Olympic competitors for Albania. Would you/the bot mentioned be able to tag the categories? What format of input is preferred? Kaffet i halsen (talk) 16:50, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Kaffet i halsen, sure, I'll tag the categories some time tomorrow. Please could you nominate just one of the categories manually (or with Twinkle preferably), it makes it easier when tagging the categories. — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:25, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I have now nominated the categories on Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 14 and tagged the first entry only (Category:Olympic alpine skiers of Albania‎). All are rename except 10th last line, Archer/Ireland which is a merge.
 * List of categories: Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 14/Complete list of Olympic sportspeople of Foo categories
 * Section name: Olympic sportspeople of Foo
 * Thanks, Kaffet i halsen (talk) 11:47, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Kaffet i halsen, okay, I'll start tagging them. — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:01, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ...if I can stop my browser when I try to open that page. — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:03, 14 May 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks done, thank you! Kaffet i halsen (talk) 07:24, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #572
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Discussions
 * New requests for permissions/Bot:
 * WikiRankBot (Task: Use Alexa rank (P1661). "...track the monthly ranking of websites based on Similarweb Ranking")
 * TiagoLubianaBot (Task: Link UMLS CUIs to Wikidata based on external mappings)


 * Events
 * Upcoming
 * Cultural Institutions and Linked Open Data Networks: Create Your Own Database with Wikibase! Friday, 05.26.2023 6:00 p.m. – 8:00 p.m (On-line)
 * Conversation on open data and digital innovation in education. Carlos Blin Auditorium of the Central University of Chile, Av. Santa Isabel #1278, Santiago. Thursday May 25 – 10:00 a.m.
 * Towards a new national bibliographic processing policy with linked data. Monday 22 and Tuesday 23 May 2023


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Papers: Deliberative Quality in Wikimedia Projects: Comparing Requests for Comments on Meta, Wikipedia and Wikidata
 * Videos
 * Wikidata The Making Of (The history of Wikidata, from its inception to its creation and the first ten years of operation, up to 2022) - YouTube
 * ETD Wikidata Conversion Project, University of Washington - YouTube
 * Back having even more fun with Lexemes! - Twitch
 * Notebooks: Where did the Women Artists within The Smithsonian American Art Museum Collection Go To School?


 * Tool of the week
 * tidywikidatar is an R package for exploring the wealth of information stored by Wikidata.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Google Summer of Code 2023 and Outreachy Round 26 candidates announced, with Wikidata-related projects
 * re•shape – A Wikimedia program to support knowledge equity - Applications are open between May 11 and June 18 to apply for a grant to create more space and visibility for marginalized knowledge.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes:
 * iconically alludes to ( item that is iconically represented in the execution of this lexeme )
 * External identifiers: Wood Database ID, Humanities Commons member ID, Shipbucket ID, MEL residence ID, JMA weather station ID, Soprintendenza Speciale di Roma place ID, GamesRadar+ ID, L'Histoire par l'image ID, Napster release ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes: none
 * External identifiers: Qualigeo ID, Ut ID, RAWG developer ID, RAWG publisher ID, Israel Composers' League composer ID


 * Query examples:
 * Name of languages ​​containing the words "old" or "ancient" (source)
 * Birthplaces of humans called "Antoine" (source)
 * Who took the most pictures on WikiCommons around a Wikidata item? (source)
 * Graph of art (and other things) owned by Art Looting Red Flag Names or members of the Nazi Party at any time (source)
 * Top album languages found on Wikidata right now (Week 19, 2023) (source)
 * Newest WikiProjects: Personal Pronouns (Goal: Model and assign pronouns ethically in Wikidata)


 * Development
 * EntitySchemas: We've continued work on the new datatype to link to EntitySchemas in statements. (T214884)
 * Converted a number of Properties from string to external ID datatype (T334450)
 * mul language code: We've worked on preparing the special pages related to labels, descriptions and aliases for the new language code. (T330193, T329626)
 * Wikibase REST API: We continued working on the ability to modify labels of an Item using the HTTP PATCH method. (T332739).

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2023-20
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems
 * Citations that are automatically generated based on ISBN are currently broken. This affects citations made with the VisualEditor Automatic tab, and the use of the citoid API in gadgets and user scripts. Work is ongoing to restore this feature.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
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 * There is a recently formed team at the Wikimedia Foundation which will be focusing on experimenting with new tools. Currently they are building a prototype ChatGPT plugin that allows information generated by ChatGPT to be properly attributed to the Wikimedia projects.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Gadget and userscript developers should replace <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> with <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> . The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> library will be removed in ~1 month, and staff developers will run a script to replace any remaining uses at that time.

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Adding AfC template
Updated the profile completely, take a review for approval. 106.51.27.133 (talk) 07:15, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
 * 106.51.27.133, my bot did that automatically.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1684235310535:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  11:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Question from Shockliesinquiry (22:15, 18 May 2023)
Hi there, how can I create a new page? --Shockliesinquiry (talk) 22:15, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shockliesinquiry, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! <span id="Qwerfjkl:1684491365674:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt">— Qwerfjkl  talk  10:16, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Qwerfjkl_(bot)
I have made a number of edits to the Bob CONTI page references and added additional links. Thank you.

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Mgersh (talk) 00:09, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 22 May 2023
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Wikidata weekly summary #573
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 * Discussions
 * CEUR-WS (Task: CEUR-WS Semantification bot to be used on publishing Workshop proceedings via http://ceur-ws.org)
 * AcmiBot (Task: Sync links with ACMI API)


 * Events
 * Past: The Wikimedia Hackathon took place on May 19-21 in Athens, Greece. Several Wikidata-related projects were presented during the showcase (notes, replay). You can also find more documentation on this page.


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Papers
 * Melanie Conroy, Quantifying the Gap: The Gender Gap in French Writers’ Wikidata; Journal of Cultural Analytics Vol. 8, Issue 2, 2023May 11, 2023.
 * Videos
 * Queering Wikidata: Early Insights from the Wikidata Gender Diversity Project, Presentation by Daniele Metilli, Beatrice Melis, Marta Fioravanti, Chiara Paolini on May 17 in Queering Wikipedia 2023 (Video)
 * Making Queer Faces and Voices Visible and Audible Online: The role of Wikipedia and Wikidata, Presentation by John Samuel on May 17 in Queering Wikipedia 2023 (Video)
 * Ethical and Inclusive Data Modeling for Gender Representation in Wikidata: Lessons and Recommendations from the Personal Pronouns Project, Presentation by Arielle Rodriguez, Crystal Yragui, Alex Jung on May 17 in Queering Wikipedia 2023
 * “But what about representation?”: Finding Ethical Solutions and Best Practices for Gender Information in Wikidata, Discussion by Arielle Rodriguez, Crystal Yragui on May 17 in Queering Wikipedia 2023 (Video)


 * Tool of the week
 * CreateNewEntity.js got improved to support up to 11 languages.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Wikimedia Deutschland is launching a laptop donation program to support Wikidata contributors with limited access to technology. If you've been actively contributing to Wikidata for at least a year, you can request a free laptop to support your work. WMDE Hardware Donation Program#Applying
 * Wikibase.Cloud data modeling research has been published. It shows user flows and pain points in the Data Modelling experience of Wikibase Cloud users in Q1/2023.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: none
 * External identifiers: L'Histoire par l'image ID, Napster release ID, ‎Xbox Games Store ID (Xbox 360), Clavis Historicorum Antiquitatis Posterioris author ID, Global Smash Roster fighter ID, RAWG developer ID, RAWG publisher ID, Qualigeo ID, Kress Collection Digital Archive ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes:
 * population by ethnic group (Part of a larger population isolated for statistical analysis)
 * points of bonus ( point of bonus in a tournament, given according some conditions (such as minimum number of goals...) )
 * External identifiers: Israel Composers' League composer ID, Stage 32 profile ID, kaino.kotus.fi identifiers, Radiomuseum.org company ID, Law Insider Legal Dictionary entry


 * Query example: Scottish waterbodies & how they're linked (source)


 * Development
 * We continue working on modify data of labels of an Item in the Wikibase REST API. (T332739)
 * We continued working on the new datatype for linking to EntitySchemas.
 * We are continuing to prepare various special pages for the mul language code.
 * We fixed a bug on Wikipedia and co where the "add interlanguage link dialog threw an error (T337081)
 * We attended the Wikimedia hackathon.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Your draft article, User:Qwerfjkl/sandbox/34


Hello, Qwerfjkl. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "sandbox/34".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 16:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-21
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 * Octicons-gift.svg The "recent edits" time period for page watchers is now 30 days. It used to be 180 days. This was a Community Wishlist Survey proposal.

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 * An improved impact module will be available at Wikipedias. The impact module is a feature available to newcomers at their personal homepage. It will show their number of edits, how many readers their edited pages have, how many thanks they have received and similar things. It is also accessible by accessing Special:Impact.
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Question from Bajranbali (16:26, 25 May 2023)
How to add hanuman chalisa text back to hanuman chalisa page --Bajranbali (talk) 16:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bajranbali, as you have been told on the talk page of that article, it is inappropriate to include the full text. Please refer to WP:NOTFULLTEXT for more on this.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685038132316:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:08, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Can we add external link of the text ? Bajranbali (talk) 18:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Bajranbali, it might be okay to include an external link in the appropraite section at the end of the article. Please ensure that any linking is in accordance with WP:EL e.g. it doesn't violate copyright, etc.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685041956965:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

journal citation with PubMed ID
The entire journal citation can be generated from the PubMed ID alone, or at least all except a page number if specified. 109.87.204.96 (talk) 19:27, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * 109.87.204.96, my bot is purely for notifying users of reference errors. Have you looked at User:Citation bot? If it doesn't generate citations from these, then you could suggest that to the bot operator.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685043557982:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Really, it should be a function of the template itself: cite journal |pubmed=#######
 * Nothing more is necessary. 109.87.204.96 (talk) 20:10, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * 109.87.204.96, the template cannot do anything with the information though. It can't fetch data.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685092579696:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  09:16, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Is that why AManWithNoPlan wrote “user has no idea what they are talking about”?
 * The question is whether a bot can fetch the data to populate the template based on the PubMed ID alone.
 * I don’t understand why it can’t.
 * To me it makes more sense to populate the template fields with the correct values rather than generating errors about missing fields. 109.87.204.96 (talk) 14:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)
 * "Really, it should be a function of the template itself: cite journal |pubmed=#######" That idea existed in the past as cite pmid, and it turned out to be an absolutely terrible idea. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 16:24, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Qwerfjkl_(bot)
Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hermite_transform

Diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Diff/1156721729

Comment/question: I have absolutely no idea how to cite this -- it's not in a journal per se, it appears to be some internal reporting of U Mich Ann Arbor. The page itself doesn't really provide a journal name.

Linkhyrule5 (talk) 03:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Linkhyrule5, I would ask at Help desk, I'm not that familiar with references. You could use Cite web, and there appears to be a Cite report template that might be suitable for this.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685038006564:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:06, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

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Page: Menominee language

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Comment/question: The comment was that information about reference to a periodical was missing information. However, both references I entered to support the editing I did were to websites, not to periodicals.

Ljdowning (talk) 12:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)ljdowning
 * @Ljdowning: This reference uses which requires journal.  If you are not citing an academic or scholarly journal, do not use .  If you cannot see the error message, see.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:07, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry to sound dim-witted, but I use the visual editor, not the source, editor, and I don't understand your comment. Your information about how to see the error seem to be aimed at someone who does source editing, which not everyone does.
 * Which reference are you talking about? And how could the reference use "cite journal" if the reference information I entered in the cite form that one uses in visual editing was a website URL, not a journal article? If you actually follow the links in the two references I added to this page, you'll see that they are not journal articles.
 * I do a LOT of Wiki editing using the visual editing mode, and I have NEVER gotten a comment like this, so, again, I am totally confused. Ljdowning (talk) 13:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ljdowning, with this edit, you added: <br style="margin-bottom:0.5em"/>This uses cite journal; I assume you just pasted the link in and let Citoid fill out the details. The bot task for these notifications is fairly new, so you may not have seen them before.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1684761992124:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  13:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I have no clue about citoid... I did just paste in a URL, which is to a webpage, grantstome, which obviously is not a journal. It's a webpage that compiles information about funded grants, in this case to a project funding Menominee dictionaries. So Citoid seems to have a bug, that it fills in info that isn't relevant for a particular reference? The same issue has come up for an edit I made to Doris Payne's webpage, where a reference to a website is flagged as needing journal information? Any suggestions about how to avoid such errors on my side? Or will Wikipedia aim to fix the overactive functions of Citoid?
 * I care a lot about proper referencing, and I from time to time get helpful suggestions about improving references. It's frustrating to get unhelpful error messages - unhelpful since I don't see how to correct the issue. Ljdowning (talk) 13:35, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ljdowning, you should see something like this after entering in the URL and saving the reference: [[File:En.wikipedia.org Sunflour Railroad 2023-05-22.png]] You can then click "edit", "manual", and then the correct reference type (in this case "website") and fill out the necessary parameters if possible.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1684764813001:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:13, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The "bug" in Citoid is mostly because it is tricky to get accurate metadata from webpages, and many webpages mangle their HTML.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1684764882089:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:14, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for this tip about how Wikipedia can incorrectly interpret website references as journal articles. I have now found and fixed the two problematic references that you pointed out to me (one in Doris L. Payne's Wikipedia entry, the other in the entry for the Menominee language). I was glad to learn something new! Ljdowning (talk) 18:37, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Visual editor and Citoid (the thing that automates citation creation) are far, far, from perfect. For this reason, I  use it.  I gave you a link to the reference that has the error message.  Here's a better link: Special:Permalink/1156209199.
 * The how-to-see-the-error-messages instructions have nothing to do with which editor you use. To enable error message display, you will have to use the source editor to edit User:Ljdowning/common.css.  Once you have done that, you can go back to  and look at reference 10.  You should see the error message – it looks like this:  : Cite journal requires |journal= (help).
 * If ve does not allow you to specify which citation template to use, for me that is just more confirmation that ve is not yet ready for prime time. If you try to recreate that same reference, will ve allow you to change from  (which it apparently prefers) to  while you are creating the citation?  Does it not give you the opportunity to review what citoid suggests?
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:40, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Trappist the monk, you can test VE with, which is helpful in cases like these to see what VE can do. I think there was a RfC about enabling VE by default sometime at VPR.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1684765016423:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> —  Qwerfjkl  talk  14:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that; I'll probably soon forget about it. I tried it with unsatisfying results.  The reference enumerated as 10 in the reference list was 8 in the article.  Why?  Because there are two references in the infobox that ve ignores?  Editing the existing template to change the citation type blanks all of the existing parameter data.  Really unhelpful.  Not clear at all how to get the  form to auto-populate parameter values from a url; that functionality should be obvious (its obvious and works in RefToolbar so should be just as obvious in ve's form).  So, this brief experiment simply confirms for me that ve is far,  from ready for prime time.  Done with my rant for now.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 14:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Qwerfjkl: Why did you choose as one of the categories that the bot monitors?  The error messages that are associated with this category are hidden (for reasons of politics) so I suspect that you will get more discussions like this one.
 * —Trappist the monk (talk) 13:51, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Trappist the monk, I started it because of Bot requests, and I think I chose the categories from Help:CS1 errors. Not sure why you pinged me on my talk page. <span id="Qwerfjkl:1684764030435:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:00, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * This looks super helpful. Thanks for providing all these details, telling me what to look for to find the error messages on the relevant Wiki entries and then suggesting how to correct them. I will have a closer look later today (or within the coming days, if today turns out busy), optimistic that I can solve this problem. I really appreciate this! Ljdowning (talk) 14:20, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Qwerfjkl and, is a cofacilitator for a number of edit-a-thons I help manage, and she brought this thread to my attention, so I hope you don't mind me chiming in. Laura, you may want to check out the user guide in addition to the manual on citation errors. While Qwerfjkl and Trappist are mentioning template parameters using the "source" style, for the most part the fields in the visual editor are named similarly, so things like journal would correspond to the "Journal" field when using the visual editor to edit citations. The issue you seem to be discussing is that the automated citation maker is not always accurate. Qwerfjkl notes that Citoid (the software component that manages our citations) tries to read the page you're citing and try to intuit what citation template to use and what fields to populate, but sometimes this doesn't work because of how the other website is structured. For whatever reason, Citoid thought the URL you used was to a journal article and used that template when it shouldn't have. In the visual editor, you can try switching to the "Manual" tab, and it will show you what template it's using at the top. You can also look and fix whatever fields might be messed up. After-the-fact, you can also try editing the citation as Qwerfjkl shows in the image above. If you click on the reference while editing, you'll see in the top left of the pop-up the kind of template it's using (in the case above, "Journal"). You can edit this, and in the bottom left you'll see a "Change reference type"; choose "manual" on the dialog box that pops up, and choose a more appropriate type (website, probably). Hope this helps! — Wug·a·po·des 17:52, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @GoingBatty, what do you think about this? It appears the missing periodical error is hidden by default, which can confuse editors.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1684954686172:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:58, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Qwerfjkl: I thought the red errors were visible and the green maintenance messages were hidden, but I was incorrect. I've had my css modified for so long that I forgot which ones were hidden and which weren't.  I think we should not notify users about hidden messages.  Sorry for causing this issue.  GoingBatty (talk) 13:52, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @GoingBatty, so I should remove the bot notifying for this category? OOjs UI icon check-constructive.svg Done.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685037882526:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Qwerfjkl: Yes, please stop the bot from notifying for any hidden category. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Qwerfjkl: I thought the red errors were visible and the green maintenance messages were hidden, but I was incorrect. I've had my css modified for so long that I forgot which ones were hidden and which weren't.  I think we should not notify users about hidden messages.  Sorry for causing this issue.  GoingBatty (talk) 13:52, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @GoingBatty, so I should remove the bot notifying for this category? OOjs UI icon check-constructive.svg Done.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685037882526:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:04, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Qwerfjkl: Yes, please stop the bot from notifying for any hidden category. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

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Biologist2023 (talk) 05:49, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Biologist2023, do you have a question?<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685092613262:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  09:16, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #578
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;">
 * Events
 * Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call May 30, 2023: We will discuss results from our community survey on advocacy for Wikidata in libraries and hear from community members Mary Aycock, Steve Baskauf and Eric Willey about their experiences with advocacy and gaining support for Wikidata work within their respective libraries. Agenda


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Mike Peel shares his experience mentoring Wikimedia projects through FOSS outreach programs


 * Tool of the week
 * TalkPageHeader.js shows the talk page header for languages other than English.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * The libraries of the London School of Economics and the University of York have collaborated to produce a toolkit for uploading research theses metadata to Wikidata. Full announcement and access to the toolkit
 * The contents of most Wikimedia Cloud Services Wiki Replicas are out-of-date owing to large & increasing replication lag; see https://replag.toolforge.org/ & Phab T337446. Exercise caution using data from any tools that have a dependency on these databases.


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes:
 * time of periapsis ( the time at which the orbit of an object in space, typically a planet or a satellite, goes through its periapsis )
 * matched by identifier from ( this external ID was added because the following link was presented in both the external database and the Wikidata item )
 * External identifiers: Diritto on line ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes:
 * ISCED Attainment ( (no English description proposed yet) )
 * ISCED category orientation ( International Standard Classification of Education category (based on focus/orientation) applicable to an educational program )
 * Learning outcome ( specific knowledge, skills, and abilities that students are expected to acquire as a result of participating in a particular education program )
 * External identifiers: GamersGlobal series ID, Enciclopedia machiavelliana ID, BFM.ru persons ID, Open Yearbook org id


 * Query examples:
 * Count comparison of England, Scotland and Wales items claiming to be a human settlement as well as a parish (source)
 * Twins at Eurovision (source)


 * Development
 * Ontology issues: We are finishing the evaluation of the survey about which types of ontology issues are hindering reuse of Wikidata's data the most.
 * Otherwise mostly a slow week because of the Wikimedia hackathon.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

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 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
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 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

Growth team newsletter #26
Welcome to the twenty-sixth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

One million Suggested Edits
We passed the 1 million Suggested edits milestone in late April!
 * The Suggested edits feature (AKA Newcomer tasks) increase newcomer activation by ~12%, which flows on through to increased retention. (source)
 * Suggested edits increase the number of edits newcomers complete in their first two weeks and have a relatively low revert rate. (source)
 * Suggested edits are available on all Wikipedia language editions.
 * Newer Suggested edits, like Add a link and Add an image, aren’t yet deployed to all wikis, but these structured tasks further increase the probability that newcomers will make their first edit. (source)

Positive reinforcement
Positive reinforcement aims to encourage newcomers who have visited our homepage and tried Growth features to keep editing.
 * The new Impact module was released to Growth pilot wikis in December 2022, and we are now scaling the feature to another ten wikis.
 * The Leveling up features are deployed at our pilot wikis.
 * The Personalized praise features were deployed at our pilot wikis on May 24. Mentors at pilot wikis will start to receive notifications weekly when they have “praise-worthy” mentees. Mentors can configure their notification preferences or disable these notifications.

Add an image

 * We are creating a new section-level variation of the “add an image” task. We have tested the accuracy of suggestions, and the development of this new task is well-underway.

Other updates

 * We are progressively releasing Add a link to more wikis.
 * After adding Thanks to Recent Changes, Watchlist and Special:Contributions, we investigated Thanks usage on the wikis. There is no evidence that thanks increased after the feature was added on more pages.
 * We helped with code review for the 2023 Community Wish to add Notifications for user page edits.
 * We have been attending several community events, that we documented in our Growth’s Community events report.

What's next for Growth?

 * We shared an overview of Growth annual planning ideas, and have started community discussion about these potential projects. We would love to hear your feedback on these ideas!

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Tech News: 2023-22
<section begin="technews-2023-W22"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Citations can once again be added automatically from ISBNs, thanks to Zotero's ISBN searches. The current data sources are the Library of Congress (United States), the Bibliothèque nationale de France (French National Library), and K10plus ISBN (German repository). Additional data source searches can be proposed to Zotero. The ISBN labels in the VisualEditor Automatic tab will reappear later this week.
 * Octicons-gift.svg The page now has "" options to select all the pages within a namespace. This feature request was voted #161 in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.

Problems
 * For a few days earlier this month, the "Add interlanguage link" item in the Tools menu did not work properly. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * VisualEditor will be switched to a new backend on small and medium wikis this week. Large wikis will follow in the coming weeks. This is part of the effort to move Parsoid into MediaWiki core. The change should have no noticeable effect on users, but if you experience any slow loading or other strangeness when using VisualEditor, please report it on the phabricator ticket linked here.

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Comment/question: I copy/paste that cite from Pettit Marine Paint article.

JoeNMLC (talk) 20:16, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @JoeNMLC, just because you copy a re4ference doesn't mean the reference isn't invalid; the original reference also has the error.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685442451624:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  10:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

ReferenceExpander
Just a friendly heads-up in case you weren't already aware, since it's installed on your common.js: Careless use of ReferenceExpander has caused serious problems. It's currently at MFD, and a large cleanup project is underway to repair the citations damaged by the script. I and several other users have !voted that the script be deleted or disabled, and I wouldn't recommend using it at all unless you thoroughly check every reference it modifies against the previous revision. If you're interested in a more detailed explanation of the script's issues, has provided an excellent summary at the MFD. — SamX &#91;talk · contribs&#93; 05:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @SamX, I am aware, but thanks for the notice.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685603374839:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:09, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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Page: Minecraft modding

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Comment/question: Probably nothing you can do about this, but I'll explain how it happened anyways: User was rapidly vandalising the page and multiple times as I was about to revert it they added another one, in the end I still ended up reverting with one of their edits in between - and that was enough for there to not be any undo tag apparently (not even manual revert).

Personally I haven't had this happen many times with me, even though it's not super uncommon for there to be multiple users vandalising a page, but having multiple vandals or one rapid vandal editing different parts of a page rapidly is pretty rare.

2804:F14:80B6:3101:C9EF:C3EF:8F5D:C2B4 (talk) 08:29, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Although... it IS tagged "reverted", not sure if it was tagged that when the bot gave the notice though. 2804:F14:80B6:3101:C9EF:C3EF:8F5D:C2B4 (talk) 08:35, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
 * 2804:F14:80B6:3101:C9EF:C3EF:8F5D:C2B4, yes, not much I can do about this. The bot is already set to ignore undos, reverts, and rollbacks; I've just updated it to also skip reverted edits. (I've just made a simple change, and because the bot looks at a feed of edits, it may come across the edit before it's been reverted, and so still notify even if the edit is reverted.)<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685611033420:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  09:17, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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'''Page: Yasmin Pahlavi

'''Diff: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasmine_Pahlavi

'''Comment/question: O had been notified that the link iy used read not valid. However, I had shared a link to a video clip Yasmin Pahlavi's own verified Instagram profile. I'll share the link again. Otherwise it's the newest video which is shared on her page https://www.instagram.com/tv/Csrc8mBP7SH/?igshid=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==

DavidSallam (talk) 00:24, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @DavidSallam, the problem is that you gave the title as  which caused a "generic title" error.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1685786899382:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> —  Qwerfjkl  talk  10:08, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for notifying me. I changed the link tile to "Yasmin Pahlavi's Instagram Post". DavidSallam (talk) 19:30, 3 June 2023 (UTC)