User talk:Qwerfjkl/Archive 32

Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 1
Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Your relisting comment on this CFD discussion says that you originally closed it as "Delete". Did you put in a request for the JJMC89bot to empty this category because of this closure? Because that's what happened. It now looks like there might be a number of editors who want to retain this category so could you revert that bot request to repopulate this category? Thank you. Liz Read! Talk!
 * Hi Liz, I explained this in my relisting comment: I originally closed this as delete. After some discussion on my talk page, I believe it is more appropriate to relist this discussion. If there is not consensus to delete the category, it should be restored when this discussion is closed.— Qwerfjkl  talk  07:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #584
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. 


 * Discussions
 * Closed request for adminship: koavf 3 Welcome onboard \o/
 * New requests for permissions/Bot: FromCrossrefBot 1: Publication dates (Task/s: Using information from Crossref: 1 - Add publication date to items where they are not present in Wikidata 2 - Fix publication dates where they are erroneous)


 * Events
 * Upcoming
 * The next Wikidata+Wikibase office hours will take place on Wednesday, 16:00 UTC, 12th July 2023 (18:00 Berlin time) in the Wikidata Telegram group. The Wikidata and Wikibase office hours are online events where the development team presents what they have been working on over the past quarter, and the community is welcome to ask questions and discuss important issues related to the development of Wikidata and Wikibase.
 * LD4 conference (YouTube)
 * Linked data via Vivaldi: A musical journey from Wikidata to the library catalog- Tuesday, July 11, 2:30pm EST
 * Wikidata Sprint in UNLV Special Collections Highlighting LGBTQ+ Las Vegas - Tuesday, July 11, 11:30am EST
 * Linking Us Together: Applications of Wikidata in Saving Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Online (SUCHO) - Tuesday, July 11, 11am EST
 * WikiframeVG: A SPARQL Template-based Wikiframe for Wikidata Graph Exploration - Wednesday, July 12, 11:00 am - 11:30 am
 * Wikidata and the sum of all video games: putting the "linked" in video game metadata
 * How do you model my gender? Studying gender representation in the Wikidata knowledge base Wednesday, July 12, 10:00 am - 10:30 am ET
 * Ongoing
 * Ongoing: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #100, Ants (Challenge started on 2023-07-10 12:01:24)
 * Past
 * Sailesh Patnaik presents Wikidata for Education at the July session of the Network of Open Orgs - YouTube
 * Wikidata Online Course - Cohort 1 graduation - YouTube


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * A volunteer-based initiative is flourishing in Arabic Wikipedia: Reliability enhanced with +10k citations added
 * Wikidata Map in 2023
 * Videos
 * How to create a Wikidata Lexeme with ease - Beginner's Guide (in Twi and English) YouTube


 * Tool of the week
 * Duplicity is a tool on Toolforge that helps find articles on Wikipedia that do not have a Wikidata Item, and match them to an existing Item, or create a new one. (example for English Wikipedia)
 * HasProperty.js displays presence/absence of specific properties (configurable) after the Statements heading. Clicking a property name will jump to that properties section. For absent property, clicking property name will jump to the end of the page.


 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Overview of potential solutions regarding survey on ontology issues reusers are facing have been published. Are there important pieces missing? Is there something you disagree with? Generally sounds sensible? Do add your thoughts.
 * Wikidata development plan for Q3 has been updated. Wikidata:Development plan


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes: none
 * External identifiers: The Literary Encyclopedia person ID, ComingSoon.it TV series ID, ComingSoon.it TV program ID, parliament.bg MP ID, Archivio digitale Fondo Edifici di Culto ID, Flashpoint database ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes:
 * excavated by ( person who has conducted an archaeological excavation of a historic site )
 * verdict ( decision made at the end of a trial by the judge or jury )
 * Founder of
 * underlying structure ( an instance of the subject becomes an instance of the object if some of its data are lost )
 * timetable
 * External identifiers: Antenna Structure Registration Number, BDFutbol manager ID 2, GSA player ID, Gameswelt ID, DigiListan artist ID, FSHF player ID, WWGR player ID, Threads username, ProQuest publication ID, Lift Up profile ID, Internet Broadway Database touring theatre ID, Ligue nationale de rugby ID


 * Query examples:
 * Week 26, 2023: Top album languages found on Wikidata right now (source)
 * Portraits of queer men people
 * World Universities on Mastodon (source)


 * Development
 * Ontology issues: We published the overview of solutions and are looking for input on them now.
 * mul language code: We continued work on it focusing on showing it in the right place in the desktop termbox (T316767)
 * Wikibase REST API: We continued working on the endpoints for reading statement data of Properties (both a single statement, and a list of all of a Property’s statement) (T339356, T338383)
 * Vector 2022 skin: We continued work on improving the search display (T327510)
 * WMF Governance wiki is now connected to Wikidata so can be linked to in the sitelink section under multilingual sites (T321967)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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OUN members
Hi, can you elaborate why did you close Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 11 as listfy and removed entire category? There was no clear consensus for such an option. Marcelus (talk) 14:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Marcelus, there wqas consensus that membership was not defining, ass all users except you agreed, and you arguments were weak. There were issues with both of the renames (DEFINING, ARBITRARYCAT, and so jc37's solution, namely listification, had stronger consensus than any of the alternatives. As the current name has a problem, I could not close it as no consensus, so I closed it with the option with strongest consensus, listification. — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:25, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * They weren't weak, we have Category:Ukrainian politicians by party, it's normal to categorize people by their political affilation. I don't really understand arguments of others, OUN membership is as defining as any other party. As I said there was no consensus to remove the category. Marcelus (talk) 14:36, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Marcelus, there was consensus that it wasn't defining, even if you disagree with that. — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:14, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Look, there is no consensus that membership in political organisation isn't defyining. So the claims made during the move discussion has no basis. Marcelus (talk) 12:47, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Marcelus, I'm sorry, but that's not how I read consensus, as I explained above. There isn't much more I can say. — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:32, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Tech News: 2023-28
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The Section-level Image Suggestions feature has been deployed on seven Wikipedias (Portuguese, Russian, Indonesian, Catalan, Hungarian, Finnish and Norwegian Bokmål). The feature recommends images for articles on contributors' watchlists that are a good match for individual sections of those articles.
 * Global abuse filters have been enabled on all Wikimedia projects, except English and Japanese Wikipedias (who opted out). This change was made following a global request for comments.
 * is a new tool for administrators to help fight spam. It provides a clearer interface for blocking plain domains (and their subdomains), is more easily searchable, and is faster for the software to process for each edit on the wiki. It does not support regex (for complex cases), nor URL path-matching, nor the MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist, but otherwise it replaces most of the functionalities of the existing MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist. There is a Python script to help migrate all simple domains into this tool, and more feature details, within the tool's documentation. It is available at all wikis except for Meta-wiki, Commons, and Wikidata.
 * The WikiEditor extension was updated. It includes some of the most frequently used features of wikitext editing. In the past, many of its messages could only be translated by administrators, but now all regular translators on translatewiki can translate them. Please check the state of WikiEditor localization into your language, and if the "Completion" for your language shows anything less than 100%, please complete the translation. See a more detailed explanation.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * The default protocol of and API counterparts has changed from http to both http and https.
 * and its API counterparts will now search for all of the URL provided in the query. It used to be only the first 60 characters. This feature was requested fifteen years ago.

Future changes
 * There is an experiment with a ChatGPT plugin. This is to show users where the information is coming from when they read information from Wikipedia. It has been tested by Wikimedia Foundation staff and other Wikimedians. Soon all ChatGPT plugin users can use the Wikipedia plugin. This is the same plugin which was mentioned in Tech News 2023/20.
 * There is an ongoing discussion on a proposed Third-party resources policy. The proposal will impact the use of third-party resources in gadgets and userscripts. Based on the ideas received so far, policy includes some of the risks related to user scripts and gadgets loading third-party resources, some best practices and exemption requirements such as code transparency and inspectability. Your feedback and suggestions are warmly welcome until July 17, 2023 on on the policy talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 19:52, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Bad bot banners
I have recently seen your bot add WikiProject Science banners to articles that are about technology or mathematics rather than science. Additionally it is using a banner shell for articles that do not need a banner shell because they have only one banner. Please make it stop. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:46, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @David Eppstein, the banner shell should be added to all articles - note the discussion at the BRFA. The incorrect WikiProjects is because the bot uses ORES, whcih isn't always accurate. — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * As a note, it also seems to (well, ORES seems to) default to video games for articles that are really about board games or card games. Not a major deal, just something to keep in mind if there's a second iteration of the bot. -- Pres N  18:03, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it's just ORES being inaccurate. — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:06, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Just in case

 * FYI Talk:1962 Brisbane Rugby League season

04:01, 30 June 2023 Qwerfjkl (bot) talk contribs 104 bytes +104  Adding ; automatically added WikiProject(s):,  (Task 19) has been hit with assessment tags that dont fit - trust all is well JarrahTree 15:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @JarrahTree, probably nothing to worry about (you can remove the WikiProjects if you want). — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:33, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I am sorry I am not sure what is going on here, Talk:1934 Brisbane Rugby League season is nothing to worry about?
 * Are the rugby season articles staying with the incorrect tagging? JarrahTree 00:57, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oceanian politics is relevant to Brisbane rugby seasons? or am I missing something JarrahTree 00:58, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @JarrahTree, no, it's not. The WikiProjects tagged are not always correct. — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:18, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
 * It's clear from other threads on this page that Qwerfjkl cares little about fixing up the mess that they're creating, and so we need to do it ourselves. Like . -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:11, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

crons
Hi. To continue our discussion regarding crons, and yaml files: the toolforge guide at wikitech:Help:Toolforge/Jobs framework explains how to use yaml files. For a few months I used this type of single yaml file to list all the jobs, but since last 3-4 months, I have been using the yaml files in format described at User:Novem Linguae/Essays/Toolforge bot tutorial. Till now, I did not have any problem with any scripts, this one was the first incident. Interestingly, even that particular script's previous versions (with non-significant differences) worked fine. I think it was one time glitch, or my file's format/encoding was off. —usernamekiran (talk) 12:12, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Usernamekiran, in that case, if it's working fine now, then it's probably nothing to worry about/ — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:42, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I actually did not try it again, I simply stopped, and ran that particular script from my local computer. Lets if something similar happens again. Till then, see you around :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 16:48, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Qwerfjkl_(bot)
List of awards and honors received by Katalin Karikó $1

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=1151993498 $2

A possibly erroneous deletion:

Ear-phone (talk) 09:54, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ear-phone, the error is present because you didn't use the journal parameter. — Qwerfjkl  talk  11:25, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. TY. This is an edit made from mobile using a Wikimedia reference generator. Ear-phone (talk) 13:26, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Creators, again
I asked about this before. I would like a list of creators of the 300+ categories which I nominated at Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 13/Expatriates A-G say. Ideally I would like to be able to do this myself, but am baffled by scripts (unless a button pops up on my edit bar to run them). Ideally again the list would be of the form <ol><li>Category:Afghan emigrants to Iraq (user:Mar4d)</li><li>Category:Afghan emigrants to Ireland (user:StickeyWicket)</li></ol>I could of course do it by copy and paste but it would take several hours.<span id="Oculi:1689180032723:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Oculi (talk) 16:40, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Oculi, I could tag them all if that's the end goal (and notify the creators), otherwise I'd have to modify my current script.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689238368255:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  08:52, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The end goal in this case has been reached. One would like to know who created the categories before listing them at cfd, as some editors are more equal than others. (I usually use AWB to tag more than say 10 and have no idea who created what.) Oculi (talk) 09:31, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Oculi, there's no easy way for me to do that, unfortunately.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689271220904:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:00, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

auto
Hi there. I noticed that your bot is adding auto but not every project banner supports this parameter. For example on Talk:Bute Merthyr Colliery it is identified as an unknown parameter. Is there a way to avoid this? I guess it is difficult for the bot to know which templates support it and which do not. I still think we should add the auto parameter to WikiProject banner shell but that didn't get much support. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:47, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @MSGJ, yes, I changed it so that it will instead add an invisible comment. See, for example, Talk:Football Cup of the Russian SFSR.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1688552641521:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  10:24, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Auto was such a good idea because an editor could see why the article has such a strange WikiProject. With categories the bot could be checked afterwards with categories like Category:Automatically assessed Chemistry articles. Now we have invisible comments which are not removed when somebody edits the talk page with scripts (or just do not remove it). E.g. . Christian75 (talk) 09:58, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Christian75, there's nothing I can really do about this.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689420579818:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  11:29, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Question from DiaX1 (20:44, 15 July 2023)
Can i put my biography, on Wikipedia?? --DiaX1 (talk) 20:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * No, see Autobiography. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:13, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 July 2023
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Descriptions switched for Task 19 and 20 on User:Qwerfjkl (bot) page
From what I understand, this edit Special:Permalink/1165557542 which added Central America (which isn't relevant AFAICT) is within the probability tolerances of what the bot claims to do so is probably fine. It's what prompted me to check the bot and I noticed the descriptions of Task 19 and Task 20 are switched on the User:Qwerfjkl (bot) page. The edit was correctly tagged and link as Task 19 = " Tag untagged talk pages with . ", but the bot page table has Task 19 as "Expand a specific reference." The table is incorrect, and confused me in figuring out what the bot thought it was doing. To be clear: I think the bot action, while slightly off in this case, is (probably) fine, it's the documentation page which has the confusing error. Thanks! Salpynx (talk) 02:33, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Salpynx, hmm, think I made a mistake because task 20 was approved first. I've fixed it anyhow. Feel free to edit the bot's userpage to fix obvious errors like this one.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689587645046:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  09:54, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #584
<div style="margin-top:10px; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;">Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. <div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2; -webkit-column-width: 400px; -moz-column-width: 400px; column-width: 400px;">


 * Discussions
 * Open request for adminship: Tomodachi94 (RfP scheduled to end after 21 July 2023 05:02 UTC)
 * New requests for permissions/Bot:
 * Peuc bot 3 (Task: One-time import of a database of Québec written literary works)
 * MajavahBot (Task: Import version and metadata information for Python libraries from PyPI)


 * Events
 * Upcoming: The 4th Wikidata Workshop. (Extended deadline)! Papers are due on Thursday, 27 July 2023
 * Ongoing: Weekly Lexemes Challenge #101, Archives (Challenge started on 2023-07-17 12:01:18
 * Past: Wikidata and Wikibase Q3 office hour session log: Wikidata:Events/Telegram office hour 2023-07-12


 * Press, articles, blog posts, videos
 * Blogs
 * Issue 01: Who Builds The Internet?
 * Are the children of celebrities over-represented in French cinema? in The Signpost, July 17, 2023
 * The humble guide to building an asset library
 * Papers
 * OpenFact: Factuality Enhanced Open Knowledge Extraction
 * "Psychiq and Wwwyzzerdd: Wikidata completion using Wikipedia" (browser extension to import information from Wikipedia, assisted by a DistilBERT-based ML model to predict Wikidata statements for instance and subclass)
 * A universal literary canon based on multilingual encyclopedic data: proposal for a measurement method of literary works using quantitative data obtained from Wikidata and Wikipedia
 * Videos
 * Live Q & A with Denny Vrandečić - on Wikidata, Abstract Wikipedia and GenAi - YouTube
 * Constructing ethnic language links to open data? Status of Sediq usage on Wikidata (in Chinese) - YouTube
 * LD4 conference (YouTube)
 * Linked data via Vivaldi: A musical journey from Wikidata to the library catalog
 * Wikidata Sprint in UNLV Special Collections Highlighting LGBTQ+ Las Vegas
 * Linking Us Together: Applications of Wikidata in Saving Ukrainian Cultural Heritage Online (SUCHO)
 * WikiframeVG: A SPARQL Template-based Wikiframe for Wikidata Graph Exploration
 * Wikidata and the sum of all video games: putting the "linked" in video game metadata
 * How do you model my gender? Studying gender representation in the Wikidata knowledge base


 * Tool of the week
 * Wikidata Recent Changes API (simple front-end to the actual API) lets you query Wikidata edits by either properties, or labels/aliases/descriptions/sitelinks. You can retrieve any changes, or specify added/changed/removed. Current lag to Wikidata: 1 seconds. (blog)


 * Did you know?


 * Newest properties:
 * General datatypes:
 * autosuggest value ( qualifier for P1963 that suggests which values should be autosuggested to the user that uses the property for items that are instances of the subject )
 * External identifiers: The Literary Encyclopedia person ID, ComingSoon.it TV series ID, ComingSoon.it TV program ID, parliament.bg MP ID, Archivio digitale Fondo Edifici di Culto ID, Flashpoint database ID, Choisirleservicepublic.gouv.fr organization ID, Gameswelt ID, Vélo'v station ID, Lithuanian protected object ID, Saugoma.lt area ID, Saugoma.lt object ID, Alienor.org ID, Musées Occitanie ID, Trésors de Nice ID, Image Duplicator ID, CNR ExploRA author ID, ECLI court code, Romanian river code, German University Collections person ID


 * New property proposals to review:
 * General datatypes:
 * verdict ( decision made at the end of a trial by the judge or jury )
 * Founder of
 * underlying structure ( an instance of the subject becomes an instance of the object if some of its data are lost )
 * timetable
 * Canadian Archival Information Network authority record
 * External identifiers: BDFutbol manager ID 2, GSA player ID, DigiListan artist ID, FSHF player ID, WWGR player ID, Threads username, ProQuest publication ID, Lift Up profile ID, Internet Broadway Database touring theatre ID, Ligue nationale de rugby ID, Musée critique de la Sorbonne ID, FantLab translator ID, The Literary Encyclopedia work ID, Acclaimed Music album ID, Hugging Face user or organization ID, Friedländer ID, IMDb keyword


 * Query examples:
 * List of data journals at Wikidata (source)
 * Week 28, 2023: Top album languages found on Wikidata right now (source)
 * Newest WikiProjects:
 * WikiProject Antiquity (aims to gather all contributors working in an aspect or another of Antiquity)
 * WikiProject Lodging (aims at creating, improving, and organizing Wikidata items related to lodging, such as hotels, motels, inns, guest houses and lodging-related topics)


 * Development
 * Vector 2022 skin: We finished working on removing the strange bolding pattern of the Search Results on Wikidata. Should be rolled out in the next train (T327510)
 * EntitySchemas: We are working on showing the Label of EntitySchema in Statements and Special pages (T339924)
 * Mismatch Finder: We are working on adding the Language Selector to the Mismatch Finder (T328149)
 * mul: We trying out changing how placeholders in Wikibase termboxes work: They’ll soon start falling back across the fallback chain of the language until they hit mul (T340832)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.


 * Monthly Tasks
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
 * Contribute to a Showcase item.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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Tech News: 2023-29
<section begin="technews-2023-W29"/> Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Octicons-tools.svg We are now serving 1% of all global user traffic from Kubernetes (you can read more technical details). We are planning to increment this percentage regularly. You can follow the progress of this work.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from . It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from . It will be on all wikis from (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg MediaWiki system messages will now look for available local fallbacks, instead of always using the default fallback defined by software. This means wikis no longer need to override each language on the fallback chain separately. For example, English Wikipedia doesn't have to create <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> and <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> subpages with a transclusion of the base pages anymore. This makes it easier to maintain local overrides.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> API will be deprecated with the new MediaWiki version. Bots or scripts calling that API should use the <bdi lang="zxx" dir="ltr"> API now.

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:06, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Learning to search
Hi, can you please let me know how you created the list here? I'd like to create similar lists, but I do not know how to. I know there is a wiki search option in AWB, but it seems to return a lot of false results, while yours were perfect. Thanks! &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 14:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @CX Zoom, I used WP:JWB, but I'm fairly sure AWB should give the same results. I just used the list from search option, using this search.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689780884174:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:34, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, JWB worked great. Donno why AWB breaks. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 17:47, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

I've done wikipedia editing before but now i have one question
Is it posible to still edit wikipedia pages with all of its features (eg. footnotes, links to other pages inside and outside of wikipedia, etc.) on an e-reader (more specifically a kindle paperwhite 10th generation)? I've edited articles on an ipad (via a different account) before but now that i'm doing this on a different device, I would prefer to know if it is even possible in it's even possible in it's totality on a different device so I have turned to you (a far more experienced editor than i am) for more information on this topic — Preceding unsigned comment added by FunnyLickManStudios (talk • contribs) 04:01, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @FunnyLickManStudios, I would assume it's possible, but I've never tried to do so. You could simply try it to see if it works, or you could ask at Village pump (technical).<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689841264039:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  08:21, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Invalid Linter fix from December 2021
I hope that your script has been updated since this December 2021 edit. I ran into the same problem: font tags without # before the color hex text works, but span tags require the #. I had to adjust my script. I have fixed this page, but if you think there may be others out there, you might look into fixing them. I submitted an AWB request when I discovered my error, and the pages were fixed by a helpful gnome. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:21, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Jonesey95, I believe I was using your script.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689841180660:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  08:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Ironic. So it goes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:30, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * This search times out, but finds a few hundred pages, maybe a couple thousand. It looks like it's not all our fault, though; nothing prevents editors from putting an invalid color specification in their signature. Also, we have both discussed this before, just 12 months ago. It looks like the task was partly done but never completed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Jonesey95, I seem to reall running Bandersnatch on this and for some reason it didn't catch all the articles. I might try finishing it off some time.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689865314729:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:01, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Relisted CfDs linking to wrong date
Some recent CfD relistings appear to be linking to the wrong page (example). Could you check if this is an error with XFDcloser or something else? —Paul 012 (talk) 07:12, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Paul 012, I'd says that's a bug with XFDCloser. The relisting link is correct, but the discussion is moved to the wrong date (the 18th) and the summary also links to the 18th. I suspect the relsit link is only correct (the 19th) because it substitutes a template, instead of using what it thinks is the current day.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1689927709480:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  08:21, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

Banners
@Qwerfjkl Hi, I've noticed that you recently added banners to the talk pages of articles I've started. Many thanks for that. In detail, you added,  and  banners to pages on Japanese films and Japanese novels/literary works (which are my primary fields). Wouldn't it be better to add more specific,  and  banners? Robert Kerber (talk) 12:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Robert Kerber, yes, it would be, but this one done automatically through my bot, User:Qwerfjkl (bot).<span id="Qwerfjkl:1690037214465:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:46, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Renom appropriate?
Hi Qwerfjkl, thanks for so much of the work you've been doing lately! It is genuinely satisfying to see when people agree with my proposals and you draw that conclusion, or that I am persuaded by alternative proposals and we are able to reach a different consensus than I had planned, but am quite happy with. It allows me to continue doing more work on this wonderful project. :)

I see you recently closed Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 29 as No Consensus; I guess that's fine, I kinda made a mess out of the many options. But the next day you closed Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 3 as Merge to Category:Chroniclers from the Holy Roman Empire. That creates a pretty compelling precedent to renominate Category:German chronicles for Alt 1 proposal: Rename to Category:Chronicles about the Holy Roman Empire. This is what Marcocapelle !voted for, and I was ready to accept with some hesitation, and nobody else really voted. Especially now with the closely related cat being renamed thus, I am convinced this is the way to go.

But is it appropriate to renom a cat that has been closed so recently? I don't want to make it look like I do not accept the closure you have performed, I do. But this time I will have only 1 option and I know Marco will support it, so I think we can reach consensus this time. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:03, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Nederlandse Leeuw, if I close a nomination as no consensus then I encourage you to reopen it. Generally, I'd discourage nominations with multiple different options, as it tends to lead to a train wreck. It is easier to reach a clear consensus when there is only one option.In short, go ahead and renominate it.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1690037439456:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay thanks! Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

CFD closures
Hello, Qwerfjkl,

Could you leave a more detailed closure statement when you close CFD discussions? I came across some tagged categories and was looking at Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 7 where you said the categories were being Merged but it would be helpful to mention the Merge targets in your closure statement so one doesn't have to read through the entire discussion to figure out what is going to happen.

I don't think this would take much additional time on your part and you don't have to list each category, just summarize and mention the Merge targets in your closure. I hope you can do this with your future CFD closures that are a little complicated like this one. Thank you for all of your contributions to the project! Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The reason why this particular incident caught my eye is that Category:VFL/AFL Premiership players and Category:VFL/AFL Premiership coaches are tagged for CSD C1 speedy deletion but it looks like they will be Merge target categories according to this closure and shouldn't be deleted. Is this your understanding as well? Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 17:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Liz, I tend to only include the target if there are multiple alternative targets in the discussion, but I can try to be clearer if that helps to understand the closure.
 * Those categories will be populated once the closure is processed and accordingly shouldn't be deleted, as you say. Qwerfjkl  talk  20:30, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

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Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 11
I do not see a consensus for a rename here. Quite the opposite. Srnec (talk) 04:04, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Srnec, almost everybody in the nomination supported that rename target, including you.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1690095676026:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:01, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I most certainly did not. I wrote The main article is 'rulers' and, given the variety of titles, that seems best. Nor did . Srnec (talk) 18:11, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Srnec, I see. I'm afraid I misunderstood your comment there. In light of that, I think relisting the discussion is the correct action. I'll revert my closure and relist it instead.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1690144776577:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  20:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Where are you now, come right now she's not here 23.186.80.194 (talk) 23:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #585
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163.152.82.202 (talk) 05:07, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 163.152.82.202, you added which is missing a title.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1690354732298:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> —  Qwerfjkl  talk  06:58, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
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Incorrect WikiProject added by bot
The bot has added Talk:2023 Tour de France Femmes, Stage 1 to Stage 8 to WikiProject Biography, but it's not a biographical article, it's about a cycle race in France. Why did it do this? <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Joseph2302, because it uses ORES which is not always accurate.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1690448029296:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  08:53, 27 July 2023 (UTC)