User talk:Qwerfjkl/Archive 43

Wikidata weekly summary #613
''Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week. Translations are available.'' 

 Discussions 
 * Closed request for adminship: ROBERTSHST requested adminship to be able to link protected Wikipedia pages to Wikidata. The request has been denied and closed.
 * New request for comments: Frettiebot block? - Bovlb has requested community input about the edit behaviour of this bot, with more discussion found on the Frettiebot Discussion page.

 Press, articles, blog posts, videos 
 * Books: Banned books, Wikipedia and Wikidata - Volume 54, Number 2, 2023 of the focus on International Library and Information Work. Professor Núria Ferran of Women and Wikipedia.
 * Papers
 * Assisted Knowledge Graph Authoring: Human-Supervised Knowledge Graph Construction from Natural Language - a Web app allowing domain experts to create natural language Wikidata-based knowledge graphs. By Gohsen & Stein (2024).
 * Large Language Models are Superpositions of All Characters: Attaining Arbitrary Role-play via Self-Alignment - Lu, K., Yu, B., Zhou, C. & Zhou, J., (2024),. This paper explores using Knowledge Graph data silos to enrich interactions and dialogues with AI NPC's in roleplay videogames.
 * Narrowing the Knowledge Evaluation Gap: Open-Domain Question Answering with Multi-Granularity Answers - evaluating predicted answers against a set of multi-granularity answers based on Wikidata. By Yona et al, (2024).
 * Videos
 * Introduction to Wikidata Query Tool - Learn A Wiki Skill (LAWS). If you are a Wikidata beginner, enjoy this video provided by Open Foundation West Africa.
 * Wikibase Cloud For Cultural Heritage Data Online and the SNARC Hub for Name Authority Records relating to Wales and the Welsh Language, with Jason J. Evans.
 * How to use Wikidata in research: good practices for using and sharing open data (Portugese). A training session by Rute Correia of Wikimedia Portugal.
 * WikidataCon 2023 - (English Audio)
 * Wikifunctions: fulfilling one of Wikidata's missing promises? - with Denny Vrandečić
 * Structured data and collaborative curation: WikiProjects and Wikidata - with Daniel Mietchen.
 * Spreading our Data further with Wikibase REST API by L. Pintscher.
 * Presentations:
 * Wikibase for a Research Project - A slidedeck provided by Ruth v.d. Bussche presented at Provenance Loves Wiki '24
 * Provenance Loves Wiki 2024 slides on Linking Boetticher and 19th Century Paintings through Wikidata and Wikisource
 * Notebooks: GLAM2: Geolocated and Labeled Articles Map - much like the previously shared GLAM1 visually representing distribution of Good & Featured Articles but in a different visualisation.

 Tool of the week 
 * Wikidata's insights for featured and good Wikipedia articles, a new Observable's notebook which helps exploring good articles or featured articles in any Wikipedia using Wikidata properties such as P31, P21, P106, P17, P27, etc.
 * SpeedPatrolling - This tool helps Wikidata editors to patrol recent changes.
 * metaphacts and Ontotext launch a new end-user interface on top of the Wikidata Knowledge Graph: try it here!

 Other Noteworthy Stuff 
 * A job opening for a Data Scientist / Knowledge Engineer to use Wikidata as a foundational layer for an NSF-funded Prototype Open Knowledge Network.
 * The Wikidata Development team needs your feedback! We are currently evaluating a new feature for the Wikidata Query Service. Fancy sharing your thoughts? We would greatly appreciate it if you could complete this survey on Lamapoll. It should take you around 10–15 minutes. Your input means a lot to us. Thank you!

 Newest properties and property proposals to review 


 * Newest General datatypes:
 * underlying structure(s) ( mathematical structure(s) obtained by deleting some data of the subject )
 * working memory type ( specifies the type of working memory of this data object )
 * production manager ( manager that is responsible for the administration of a feature film or television production )
 * simulates ( item simulated, imitated, or made to appear real by this item )
 * Philippine middle name ( maternal surname generally placed in the middle of this person's name )
 * combines media ( media files that composes this media file )
 * clerked for ( this person has held a clerkship with the judge )
 * Newest External identifiers: RCS number, Sayed Ganj Balochi Glossary ID, Vazhaju word ID, Stage username, Qué series ver series ID, Baseball-Reference.com manager ID, ‎Playstation Store concept ID, Pallaalcentro player ID, Rowing Canada ID, Rugby Database ID, Encyclopedia of Cacti species ID, Nebula channel ID, fiba.basketball player ID, Académie de Stanislas member ID, National Natural Parks System ID, Bandcamp track ID, NientePopCorn movie ID, NientePopCorn series ID, NientePopCorn person ID, Bavarian school ID, BookBrainz edition ID, British Pathé asset ID, CRIS Unique Site Number, Great American Business Leaders of the 20th Century ID, Merkur author page, ‎Globoplay ID, BindingDB ID, FFTT player ID, Czech geological location ID, etymologiebank.nl ID, Bluesky handle, ‎Parliament of Victoria ID, ArchDaily architecture office ID, HistoryMakers Maker Directory ID, OKRB 011-2022 code, Plant Illustrations taxon ID, Plant Illustrations species ID, Bantumen Powerlist 100, International Hockey Federation competition ID, IndExs Exsiccata editor ID, COSL profile ID, ‎The Models Resource entity ID, HbVar ID, TracesOfWar award ID, Latindex 2022 ID, Flashback lexicon ID


 * New General datatypes property proposals to review:
 * Number of delegates
 * afd-verbot.de person id
 * date of application ( date of a application/request that lead to a membership in an organisation, an employment or issuance of an identifier )
 * authorized image ( Proposing to distinguish images with reliable source from GLAM partners or cultural institutions )
 * Dejure.org-Schlagwort (de) ( searchword in Dejure.org )
 * New External identifier property proposals to review:: VD 17 ID, Gran Enciclopèdia Catalana ID, MobiTUKI English-Swahili Dictionary entry, Singerman Identifier, X place ID, PteridoPortal taxon ID, Plants of Hawaiʻi ID, Kalliope.org author ID, The StoryGraph Author ID, EDIT16 title & place IDs, Myths on Maps Identifier, Anglo-Norman Dictionary entry, Archives départementales du Vaucluse Fonds ID, ru.hayazg.info ID, Sundance Institute Archive ID, Mindat taxon ID, notify.moe ID, nimi.li id, Nintendo eShop (UK) ID

You can comment on all open property proposals!

''' Did you know? '''
 * Query examples:
 * The 100 smallest mountains in France (source)
 * French Prime ministers ordered by age when they start in office (source)
 * Newest WikiProjects:
 * Wikidata:WikiProject IBC 2024 - The International Botanical Congress (IBC) takes place once every six years. The organisers of this WikiProject see this conference as an ideal opportunity to engage with the wider botanical community, educate them about the potential of Wikidata and to train them in its use. We will also use this opportunity to improve the data held in Wikidata about the participants, presenters and their contributions to botany.
 * WikiProject Health Data Space - This project is about organising data related to health data spaces, in particular the efforts to create a European Health Data Space. Initially it will focus on Sweden.
 * Newest database reports: Differences in birth and death dates - This is list of reports when birth date or death date in Wikidata differs from other sources:
 * Showcase Items: Hubble Space Telescope (Q2513) - NASA and ESA space telescope (launched 1990)
 * Showcase Lexemes: šťastný (L204262) (Czech) - having luck, fortune, happy. This is our first Czech showcase lexeme and it just so happens to be the largest Lexeme on Wikidata!

 Development 
 * [Breaking Change] We are changing how empty Sense and Form lists are represented in dumps
 * Fixed the order of item/property suggestions on several occasions, primarily sex or gender (P21) (phab:T355697)
 * mul lanuage code: We are wrapping up the usability testing.
 * IP Masking: We continued the work on adapting Wikibase for the upcoming change to not show IP addresses for non-logged in users anymore.
 * Wikibase REST API:
 * We added the ability to add a sitelink to an Item or edit an existing one (T342987)
 * We are fixing a bug where badges were missing in the API reponse for sitelinks (T355293)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

 Weekly Tasks 
 * Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
 * Contribute to the showcase Item and Lexeme above.
 * Participate in this week's Lexeme challenge: Diplomacy
 * Summarize your WikiProject's ongoing activities in one or two sentences.
 * Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
 * Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
 * Help write the next summary!

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Error
Hi, the bot didn't remove the class parameter here, why is that? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 19:18, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Super Dromaeosaurus, WikiProject Video games is in Category:WikiProjects using a non-standard quality scale. — Qwerfjkl  talk  19:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-05
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Starting Monday January 29, all talk pages messages' timestamps will become a link. This link is a permanent link to the comment. It allows users to find the comment they are looking for, even if this comment was moved elsewhere. This will affect all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. You can read more about this change on Diff or on Mediawiki.org.
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MediaWiki message delivery 19:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Qwerfkll Bot duplicating corrupt WikiProject banners
In this edit the Qwerfjkl bot has apparently duplicated a corrupt WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography banner on Talk:Long Arm of the Law (film), when it should have merged the two version of WikiProject Crime [and Criminal Biography] banners or simply not done anything with the second corrupt and invalid banner syntax. Looks like it tried to do too many things and became confused. This should have been flagged as a corrupt banner shell. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 11:13, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's GIGO. Can't be too hard on the bot there, as it was corrupted already. &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Cameron Dewe, that is indeed GIGO. Nothing I can really do here. — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @MSGJ and @Qwerfjkl: Perhaps it is GIGO, but it does seem to have turned what was garbage into complete trash. It would have been OK if it had just migrated the class variables into the banner shell, but it looked like it was trying to add a second banner shell after the first banner shell was closed off. Just bringing it to people's attention in case something was wrong, or it happens again. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yep, appreciate you bringing it here. It is not reasonable to expect the bot to handle every conceivable error that is possible to make, and hopefully this particular case will not recur &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * And if it does reoccur; well you now know how the bot reacts, and I can now see it produces a result that indicates a human might need to manually clean up the resulting mess to fix things properly. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 10:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Cameron Dewe, people can mess things up in a million different ways, and there's nothing I can do to reliably detect it. In this case the WPBS wasn't properly closed, so my parser didn't recognise it as a template. — Qwerfjkl  talk  16:54, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @Qwerfjkl: Understood. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 11:26, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Wikipedia page Talk:Santa Monica Film Festival & Moxie Awards has been changed by Qwerfjkl (bot)"
Forgive me for undoing your edit to "Wikipedia page Talk:Santa Monica Film Festival & Moxie Awards has been changed by Qwerfjkl (bot)" Upon reading, I noticed that BOT made the edit, and I assumed it was an undesired external modification. Please advise. Thank you! Albert 07:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adequay (talk • contribs)
 * Adequay, if you didn't mean to revert the edit, you could undo the revert? — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:11, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2024
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Why no class?
&mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:27, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Martin, there was a conflict between C and Start. — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:20, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Bug?
&mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:11, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * MSGJ, that's a GIGO situation. — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Homuti (15:53, 1 February 2024)
Hello Sir,

Greetings!

Give me some editing tasks. I just signed up for Wikipedia and am browsing to find out what to do. I hold an MA in Geography. I wish to add original content and new entries on Wikipedia. But I need some fundamental know-how and direction on process flow. --Homuti (talk) 15:53, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Homuti, try Task Center and Backlog. Let me know if you have any more questions. — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Noted Sir Homuti (talk) 16:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2024).

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 * Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee adopted a new enforcement restriction on January 4, 2024, wherein the Committee may apply the 'Reliable source consensus-required restriction' to specified topic areas.
 * Community feedback is requested for a draft to replace the "Information for administrators processing requests" section at WP:AE.

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:00, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

User:Qwerfjkl (bot) is breaking redirects
With this edit, the bot's task #26 broke a redirect by placing project banners at the top of the page.

This caused the Page is not a redirect, misplaced Template:R from move error on the page, which I patrol for.

I don't see the need for "Project-independent quality assessments" of redirects. Your bot should follow redirects and assess the quality of the page at the target of the redirect.

Or, if you insist on assessing these, place the assessment below the redirect and the redirect category shell. Thanks, wbm1058 (talk) 02:34, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Wbm1058, yes, I noticed those problems earlier and fixed that bug. The bot also no longer runs on talk pages of redirects. — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:12, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Wbm1058, actually, not sure I updated the code correctly. Working now, anyway.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706817827311:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  20:03, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Closing CfDs and incoming links
Hello!

I notice that Category:People of former regions and territories of the United States, which was renamed and deleted following a CFD you closed on 10 January, still has an incoming link. AFAIK the process for processing deletion following CfD involves a manual check of incoming links in main and category userspaces. However I'm not sure who does that when the closer and the processing admin are different users. In your opinion, what went wrong? Place Clichy (talk) 20:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Place Clichy, AFAIK we have never checked for incoming links.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706736215684:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It is mentioned at, 2nd bullet point: Go to the old category and check "what links here". I am unable to understand which admin processed this close from the history of WP:CFDW/WP:CFDWM, and I don't see an edit from you on CFDWM around the time of the closing of the discussion.
 * you have been helpful on this topic before (1, 2). Do you see how the process went wrong this time? Place Clichy (talk) 22:15, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The simple answer is that the process hasn't gone wrong (yet), it's just running very slowly. There is a backlog of processed nominations at WP:CFDW which have yet to be checked and removed. That is to say, the redlinked catgory is still listed there. – Fayenatic  L ondon 22:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * oh OK. I saw that the category had already been renamed (by the bot) and therefore assumed that the process was through. I had not noticed that the category was still listed at CFDW. Place Clichy (talk) 22:31, 31 January 2024 (UTC)


 * I came to ask about Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 17. The closure was done January 25th and was a decision to Rename but this hasn't happened. On CFDs, who is responsible for carrying out the decisions that arise out of closing discussions? It doesn't seem to be the closer so does it just fall to an editor who volunteers? Or do bots handle everything? Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 01:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I went to look at Categories for discussion/Working but I didn't see this category listed for the bot to handle. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 02:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's pending processing by an admin at Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working. The entire process has become badly backlogged because only three admins are handling it and there is a lot of work to do. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 01:58, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl bot and SIAs
At Talk:Ladies' seal (among a couple hundred others), Qwerfjkl bot has removed class=SIA. That shouldn't happen. You could replace SIA with list when doing PIQA, or just move SIA to the PIQA class (this is what Cewbot is doing at e.g. Talk:Devil's bite). Plantdrew (talk) 19:49, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Plantdrew, I was not aware SIA was a standard class rating. @Martin? (I have changed the code for now to recognise SIA).<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706731942402:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  20:12, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * SIA is an alias for List. This was a compromise reached last year to allow some projects to join PIQA. There are some other aliases for List-class: "si" and "sl". It might be better to just change these to "List" when encountered &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * For now I've just added those as acceptable class values (and changed my capitalisation code so they'll be capitalised correctly). I'll try to add code to convert them to class=List when I have more time, but I've been a tad busy in real life lately.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706732590413:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  20:23, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I should add that when I said a couple hundred others, I was thinking about the contents of Category:Unassessed plant articles. Some other projects that used SIA as a class that are now treated as unassessed are Category:Unassessed Spiders articles (8 articles), and Category:Unassessed Ships articles (2,142 articles). Some of the ship articles (especially the ones disambiguated with a year) never had an assessment, but many were treated as SIAs/lists until Qwerfjkl bot went through (e.g. Brazilian submarine Humaitá).


 * WikiProject Mountains has some articles with mountainindex; there's only one unassessed mountain article now, which is Buena Vista Hills; that had class set as disambig, but Qwerfjkl bot removed it without adding it to PIQA. I guess mountain pages with the SIA template and a talk page assessment of disambig are something to watch out for. Plantdrew (talk) 20:55, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Plantdrew, I was thinking of checking all of Category:Unassessed articles, and restore where they used to have sia.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706736440665:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:27, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That would be great. Plantdrew (talk) 21:29, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Please ping me if I forget to do this within a few days.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706736817383:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:33, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Feel free to ignore this if it wouldn't help, but (I think) I've linked all of the subcategories of Category:List-Class articles from User:A smart kitten/sandbox2, so that the latter page can be fed into Special:RecentChangesLinked. Doing that & setting RecentChangesLinked to only show categorisation changes, ignore edits from humans, & forcing the recent-changes-displayed-limit to 5000 gives me, and Ctrl+F on it for gives 2,132 matches. Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 23:39, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A smart kitten, strange, I only get 45 matches on that page.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706803156534:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Huh, that's strange. Either way (and again - feel free to ignore this if it's not helpful), I've created a list (User:A smart kitten/sandbox3) of the talk pages I believe had their SI/SIA/SL class removed, which was generated from copying the output of RecentChangesLinked & using an unholy amount of find-replace. (There are only 2,095 entries on that page, rather than 2,132 - I believe the other 'removed from category' changes were FACBot promoting an article to featured list.) Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 16:31, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, there were a few duplicates. The actual number of entries on that page is 1,931. &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 16:36, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * ┌──────────────────────────────┘ A smart kitten, thanks. I'll write a quick script to revert my bot on those pages, and my bot can run over them again and hopefully make the correct changes.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706811055690:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:10, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, I've started running the revert script.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706811774271:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:22, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * FYI, from what I can see, the bot's now been making the correct changes :) &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 19:58, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what happened at pages like &, but in any event the bot seems to have cleaned up after itself :) (I just wanted to let you know about these for your info, given that there doesn't currently seem to be a problem with them.) Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 22:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * A smart kitten, it's probably because I ran the code multiple times on them, accidentally, and each time the bot just reverted all of its previous edits.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706857942106:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:12, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * pinging, just in case this also affects Cewbot. Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 20:42, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A smart kitten, Plantdrew said above that Cewbot was handling this fine.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706734017395:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  20:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * - my apologies to all. I must have skimmed over that bit. Best, &zwj;—&zwj;a smart kitten[ meow] 21:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I didn't notice the rating before. As mentioned above, in my current practice, the bot should not delete, but move SIA to WPBS, not convert to List. But I would like to confirm:
 * Does cewbot's current practice need to be changed?
 * Are there any other special ratings to be aware of?
 * Is there a guideline for robots and users on how to handle SIA for PIQA? It seems that there is no such guideline...
 * Kanashimi (talk) 00:41, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

auto parameter in WikiProject templates
Hi! The WikiProject Biology template on Talk:Péter Kiss (mathematician) has a note about being auto-assessed based on the other WikiProject template. However, with the class parameter being moved to WikiProject banner shell, there is only one class, which is by a human. Could you change your bot so that inherit parameters are removed when the class parameters are removed (and templates with any auto parameter are ignored when determining the majority class), and maybe also fix already-converted talk pages? Thanks in advance! (Probably the other two parameter values should be moved to WikiProject banner shell, since the class is also there. However, that would require some kind of discussion, and I’m not ready to initiate that.) —Tacsipacsi (talk) 08:49, 2 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Tacsipacsi I think this needs further discussion. Would you mind starting a thread on Template talk:WikiProject banner shell? &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Mistico_Dois
Page: Maria_Helena_Vieira_da_Silva

Diff: Special:Diff/1201485887

This was an error, for sure, the name of the museum is correct, and the reference too: Mistico Dois (talk) 01:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Mistico Dois (talk) 01:55, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Mistico Dois, title is missing.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706858241112:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  07:17, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Not anymore. Its the name of the painter.Mistico Dois (talk) 14:43, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Mistico Dois, in that case the problem is solved.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706886614099:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  15:10, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Question from Mogger42 (09:38, 3 February 2024)
Hey! How do I begin writing an article? Cant find the page! :) --Mogger42 (talk) 09:38, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Mogger42, Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing six million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! <span id="Qwerfjkl:1706954781836:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt">— Qwerfjkl  talk  10:06, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Cheaper Fly


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Error in bot implementation
Qwerfjkl, I am tracking the many bot updates you are doing, using this particular campaign: Implementing WP:PIQA (Task 26).

While the addition of the banner shell is helpful, I see that you have been deleting the param "listas" without replacement. That parameter helps ensure that researchers can find the valuable associated pages whose names do not start with the name of the fraternity. For example, the List of Sigma Alpha Epsilon chapters has a listas param of "listas=Sigma Alpha Epsilon chapters". We've not entered a campaign to rename all of these, (lists of chapters, lists of notable members, and a few others) and perhaps that is warranted. But for now, the listas param is essential to allow these pages to pop up as visible options when someone searches for that fraternity name. Would you adjust this?

You've also delete the param "class=list" from our specific Project listing (Fraternities and Sororities). In one case I noted it was bumped elsewhere within the shell, which is fine, but would you confirm that that second line has been added, and not lost? I only recently noticed the addition as a second line within the shell, and thought it may be missing from other locations. Jax MN (talk) 21:12, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Jax MN, can you give an example diff of where you have encountered any issues? The bot shouldn't be removing either listas or class=list.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706306902268:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> —  Qwerfjkl  talk  22:08, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The bot acted correctly on that page. The listas is only required once, and so the bot is moving it to the banner shell and out of the separate banners. It is also correct to move list as that was moved into the banner shell, which is the whole benefit of PIQA &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 22:35, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I will continue to review these pages for any syntax problems. I scanned several dozen, after reading your request here, and only found a few instances where our original code had neglected to add a LISTAS param, but where it would have been useful.  I've subsequently added it.  I will respond further if I find any errors.  Thanks for engaging on this item. Jax MN (talk) 23:31, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Don't hesitate to ask if you have any concerns. But everything looks good from my point of view at the moment &mdash; Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
 * A follow-up question. The mainspace article, List of Theta Tau chapters had  as an active template at the bottom of the article.  Since the LISTAS field is used in the project banner shell on the TALK page, I removed that DEFAULTSORT template from the article itself.  While it appears both would work, were these actions correct, as sort of a Best Practices edit?  Jax MN (talk) 18:37, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Jax MN, I'm no expert on article formatting, but I'm fairly sure the listas from the talk page isn't going to propagate to the main page, so I wouldn't remove the DEFAULTSORT magic word.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1707072174687:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  18:42, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Talk:Sir Henry Price, 1st Baronet
Re Sir Henry Price entry: How can Qwerfjkl (bot) change his entry to be suddenly listed under Biography:Sports and games? The entry does not mention either. He was a tailor, businessman, philanthropist and supporter of international relations and botany.William Macadam (talk) 20:10, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * William Macadam, the bot did not change any wikiprojects in this diff.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1707081626548:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  21:20, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Disruptions caused by the Qwerfjkl bot
I have come across a few instances where the bot is introducing an unwanted curly parenthesis (}) in assessment revisions on article talk pages. An example can be seen in the history of Talk:Silvana Lattmann where the bot has introduced a curly after living=no in:
 * WikiProject Biography|living=no}|a&e-work-group=yes|s&a-work-group=yes

This causes the remaining wikiprojects to display unassessed. I have recently come across a few of these in connection with women's biographies which suddenly show up as unassessed. : The same error is introduced by Cewbot as shown in the history of Talk:Avelina Gil. I think both these bots should be disabled before more unintended errors are introduced. Hopefully the errors can now be identified and corrected.--Ipigott (talk) 11:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @MSGJ Maybe we could add a tracking category for invalid parameter values of any type? Kanashimi (talk) 11:19, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Ipigott, the curly bracket was already there in both cases. This is not a bot problem.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1706980741085:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  17:19, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that our, Qwerfjkl. I suppose there are two ways of looking at this. Before the bot changed the display, all talk page assessment entries provided results. Although there was indeed an error in the biography line beforehand, it was only after the bot had updated the display that some of projects were listed "unassessed". As a result, items which had never previously caused problems needed to be revisited. Fortunately I think we have been able to catch and correct most of those which also list WP Women or WP Women's History (I have corrected a few others over the past few days) but I imagine many biographies of men also need attention. I see that for Silvana Lattmann it was who introduced the error at 18:06 on 19 June 2021. For Avelina Gil, it was  at 19:28 on 19 June 2021. It therefore looks as if one was copying from the other. I don't know if it's possible to see what other edits they made on this date but it would be useful to identify them and correct them.--Ipigott (talk) 12:35, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Ipigott, this is a flaw in how the WPBS works, which itself is due to a limitation in lua pattern matching. Probably the best thing to do here is a tracking category.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1707050890474:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  12:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I was just looking at this when you replied. It should be possible to use AutoWikiBrowser/Find and replace to find |living=yes}| and replace it with |living=yes| but I am not up to doing that myself. Perhaps you can help.--Ipigott (talk) 12:52, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Ipigott, I'm unconvinced this is a widespread problem. The only other case I could find was this one.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1707051461929:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  12:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * That's very reassuring. We must have been able to correct all the others. But it just shows how careful you have to be to make sure you don't accidentally hit an unwanted character on your keyboard when working on assessments. Thanks for your help and for developing bots which save us so much work. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 13:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I think any mistaken additions of a single curly bracket on my part are likely to be a one-time mistake. Peaceray (talk) 23:03, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion
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@Qwerfjkl 103.253.47.30 (talk) 05:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

PIQA question
Hi there! In this edit to WikiProjects for a redirect, should your bot also remove the class parameters, especially the incorrect stub? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:26, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Here's another example. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 14:36, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * GoingBatty, see Bots/Requests for approval/Qwerfjkl (bot) 24, it's resolved by the WPBS automatically. Yes, it would probably be better if my bot did it as part of cleanup, but currently it only handles cases where there is no unified class.<span id="Qwerfjkl:1707144919287:User_talkFTTCLNQwerfjkl" class="FTTCmt"> — Qwerfjkl  talk  14:55, 5 February 2024 (UTC)