User talk:Qwertis wood

First of all, those Kaisaniemi normals have been been there for years, from several different sources. Don't you think they are more informative than only records from a 30-year period? Almost all other climate boxes have all-time records.

Secondly, the Helsinki-Vantaa sunshine stats were correct. Now when you changed them, they show Kouvola Utti's sunshine. Page 68, column 301 https://helda.helsinki.fi/bitstream/handle/10138/35880/Tilastoja_Suomen_ilmastosta_1981_2010.pdf

Thirdly, there is no annual mean temp classifying which is a subarctic climate and which not. In the Köppen qualification the requirements are 3 or less months with a mean temp of over 10C and the coldest month below -3C. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subarctic_climate Winnipeg has a annual mean of 3C, and it's nowhere near the subarctic classification, as it too has 5 months with a mean temp above 10C https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnipeg#Climate

Your percent possible sunshine calculations are totally wrong. Helsinki has on the 16th of July roughly 18 hours of daylight, some 540 hours. You have put 280 hours in the July box. 280/540 = 52%. You claim 75%. As you can see, Winnipeg has 400 hours of more sunshine annually, and it has 50.6% possible sunshine.

Please revert the to the data and discard your changes, as they are wrong, and have only done harm.

Reply:

(1) Those 30-year normal periods are the standard climate period. But I can concede that people will be interested in the trivia of historical weather extremes which might not be in the current climate. So I re-instated the data, but added a more-accurate table caption. [ALSO, can someone find a source for those values please?]

(2) This was a simple error and has been corrected - thanks for noticing.

(3) I am not quite sure what Syfes is referring to. I'll guess. Saying Helsinki has a short/long winter is not useful. Away from the tropics, we define the year as having 4 equal periods of 3 months (winter, spring, summer, autumn). If we talk about a 'short' winter it gets ridiculous - with climate change winter might disappear altogether! So, no, we have fixed 3-month seasons. We can though say there is a short/long warm/cold season.

(4) I corrected them (an error in my code! - thanks for noticing). [Also they were not 'totally' wrong. The qualitative/relative variation of the annual cycle was correct - now the quantitative variation is correct too.]

And please not let's get personal, i.e. "you... have only done harm" is an exaggeration. The majority of Wikipedia users only want the facts on Wikipedia! Together we have now made the article better!

Thanks for noticing and telling me this stuff!