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colorblind issues
If you'd rather, we could also simply use bold players names for making the finals, and italics for withdrawal. In fact I went ahead and changed it since you dont like the symbols. Since there are only two aspects bold/italic can work. When there are more than two symbols is probably the only way we can do it. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:04, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * I kept the colors but replaced the symbols, I didn't remove them. If symbols are needed in legend boxes to comply with accessibility guidelines, then I am okay with that. Qwerty284651 (talk) 13:57, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually symbols are not required at all. Color just can't be the only means to convey information because some people can't see color very well. When we bold a player because they are still active (like we do in many articles), that works instead of making his name green. But whatever you prefer. The types of symbols or bolding don't matter as long as readers can see it. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:13, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Whatever aids the accessibility community see easier is fine with me. Qwerty284651 (talk) 21:55, 18 October 2022 (UTC)

2023 in tennis moved to draftspace
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 * Same answer here. Qwerty284651 (talk) 11:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

2023 ATP Tour Masters 1000 moved to draftspace
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 * @MPGuy2824, I'll just redirect to the main topics until more sources and materials are found, ok? Qwerty284651 (talk) 11:40, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure, makes sense. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:41, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Permission to remove the G2 deletion tag. Qwerty284651 (talk) 11:43, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Requesting for both pages tagged for speedy deletion. Qwerty284651 (talk) 11:44, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I've done it for the ATP page. You can go ahead and do it for the 2023 in Tennis page. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 11:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you, kind sir. Qwerty284651 (talk) 11:51, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

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2023 Shanghai
Who told you it was cancelled? This can't be right. ForzaUV (talk) 21:22, 1 December 2022 (UTC)


 * See this rankings FAQ link. I could be wrong. That 2023 year might've been a typo for 2022. Qwerty284651 (talk) 21:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I replied to you regarding this matter in the Masters main article but you probably missed the comment. It's a typo, read the question they answered on the ATP FAQ page, it's about 2022. They even mentioned the no-points Wimbledon in the same sentence, that's for 2022 as we still don't know what AELTC decides for 2023. Shanghai will be played this season, https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-reopens-borders-final-farewell-zero-covid-2023-01-08/. ForzaUV (talk) 21:08, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I should have waited before an article came out about Shanghai. I rushed it too quickly relying on a typo, not knowing it is a typo, as some small glimpse of "false" proof. Qwerty284651 (talk) 22:13, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

"2023 in tennis" listed at Redirects for discussion
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January 2023
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 * @Packerfan386, here is the thing. In the many years of editing tennis articles of currently running tournaments and former, I have never come across the current sport template. I know it's for informative purposes during an event's duration, but I find it, and this is my weird personal reason, a bit cluttery. Why? Because when one opens the draw's articles, the sporting events tag's really in your face and you'd think something is wrong with the article, but is not. I get it, if it's an insufficient sources tag or a no sources..but not the current sporting events template. It really is in thr way. Hence why I removed them. We can leave without them. Instead of reading the lead as one would normally do, they have to go through the tag first and then the lead which takes away from the attention of the reader. I don't know, it's weird. This may not be an adequate/proper reason for me removing those templates, but that's just my personal opinion. Qwerty284651 (talk) 14:54, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

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1990 Lipton International Players Championships – Women's singles moved to draftspace
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 * Will finish it tomm. Qwerty284651 (talk) 03:43, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @M.Ashraf333, I finished the page. Please move it back to main namespace without a redirect? Qwerty284651 (talk) 01:06, 2 February 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Draft:1990 Lipton International Players Championships – Women's singles
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 * Okay. Qwerty284651 (talk) 20:48, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * Further to this, I just wanted to clarify that the point of autopatrolled is to reduce the workload of new page patrollers. To that end, you should start new articles in user space (this page explains how) and not draft space (as you did with 1990 Canadian Open – Women's singles). Hope that makes sense. Happy editing.  Schwede 66  21:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Can't I just create the new article in article namespace and finish it immediately? Sounds like extra work. I've never created articles in my subpage and then create the article with the full finished version from userspace drafts. Userspace article creation is going to slow things down for me. I've got like 23 more articles to go. sigh...If this violates autopatrol, just strip it off of me. An autopatroller Pablito064 creates articles on a daily basis and they never use userspace drafts. Qwerty284651 (talk) 22:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't create extra work. Not at all. You write the article just as normal. Once it's complete, you move it from your user space to article space. It's as simple as that. It does not go anywhere near draft space; that's the important bit.
 * Start a new article by making a link like so on your user page like so (note the forward slash; that makes it a subpage to your user page): . When you click on that redlink, it's totally the same as editing in article space. When it's finished and you come to move it, the only thing that you need to be mindful of is that within the move menu, on the left the dropdown menu is set to "User". You need to change that to "(Article)". That's how you move articles between name spaces.
 * There is no problem starting an article in article space and finishing it off immediately. But you might get dragged away from the task and then it sits there obviously unfinished, and that is a problem. Starting in user space avoids this from ever arising. Heads up to .  Schwede 66  22:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , I've moved a few of your unfinished articles to draft space. The exact same advice that I've given to Qwerty284651 applies to you as well. Please read the above; saves me from having to copy and paste things onto your personal talk page.  Schwede 66  22:54, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
 * , sorry for dragging you into this. I take full responsibility for it. I am sorry I messed up. @Schwede66, cut him some slack. He's the inspiration behind me wanting to create tennis draw pages for statistics tennis articles. Don't have to move his unfinished pages into draftspace. Gosh darn it, it's all my fault for ratting out others.😞 Qwerty284651 (talk) 01:32, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Schwede66, do me and everyone else a favor and strip me of my autopatrolled user right. I resign. Qwerty284651 (talk) 01:33, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Chill. It's all good. Just play by the book. It's not hard.  Schwede 66  03:49, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

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Undoing my edits
I warn you to stop undoing my edits ! The names of the tennis player must not be on two lines ! Pindrice (talk) 18:58, 8 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Pindrice, the names displayed in the tables differ from browser.to browaer base on resolution and having the names on 2 lines is nothing wrong. Plus, the nowrap added skews up the charts as they are vertically elongated, which is visually unappealing on mobile. Qwerty284651 (talk) 04:27, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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move of WP:RFR redirect
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 * I admire, and respect the way you kept discussion at WT:RFR formal/polite/civil. It is appreciated a lot. See you around :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 01:06, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Formal/polite/civil? Well, thank god for that. Thank you for looking up the few shortcut redirects I presumed weren't taken already and providing your feedback. Much appreciated. Catch you around. Best, Qwerty284651 (talk) 01:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * Hello there, admin @HJ Mitchell. I checked my patroller user rights. They seem to be probational for cca. 5 weeks. My question is: what happens after the probation period? Would I have to reapply or will it get automatically extended to perminent? Don't know how permissions for NPP work, that is why I am asking.
 * Looking forward to hearing from you.
 * Best, Qwerty284651 (talk) 23:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
 * It's a trial until the end of next month. If you want it to continue after that you'll need to reapply to PERM or ask me directly. If all is in order, changing it to permanent should be just a formality but if there are any problems it's a chance to stop and discuss them. HJ Mitchell &#124; Penny for your thoughts? 09:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

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You are asking a blind editor about colours?
Please, have a look at grahams user page - not sure what you might understand by an editor being blind might understand what you are up to? JarrahTree 00:44, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair point. Qwerty284651 (talk) 00:47, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Removed my nonsensical comment. Qwerty284651 (talk) 00:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that. Graham87 (talk) 01:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

November 2023
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 * Are you sure I am edit warring? I've only reverted your flag removing once in the past 24 hours. My edits are in good faith. You should rethink before accusing me of edit warring, especially the 3R rule. Qwerty284651 (talk) 22:02, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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