User talk:R'n'B/Archive 22

disambiguation question
I worked on disambiguating Lisle yesterday and spent a couple of hours figuring out the correct reference in an article. After I finished that (Flabellum), there were still three references to the Lisle dab page, all of which seemed quite difficult. Today I noticed you removed Lisle from the September dab list. I'm just wondering why. Is three references below some threshold? I'm relatively new here.

MB (talk) 17:03, 23 September 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, the magic number is 3. :-) That is, when a page has only 3 links left, I move it to "Done". This started at 4, but I changed it to 3 when we started having pages with less than 12 links show up on the monthly list. Now we have even lower counts on the monthly list, so maybe it is time to change it to 2. My original theory was that if the page only had 4 or fewer incoming links, it would still be on the Bonus List, so it wouldn't be totally ignored. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:01, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Here is another DAB question. I took a look at Rollbahn. There are currently 4 links left and they all refer to 1 of the three uses of Rollbahn (I also found a fourth - a movie which is not mentioned on the dab page). I can't disambiguate these 4 links because there is no corresponding article. The dab page merely gives a definition of the word (key routes designated by the German Wehrmacht in WWII). There is not much more to say about it, so I doubt a new article is warranted. I could create an article for this usage, but it would be pretty short. So where do I turn? Should I pose this on the Rollbahn dab Talk page? Would anyone even see it there?

MB (talk) 18:27, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
 * In general, we don't create links on Wikipedia for mere definitions of terms, since Wikipedia is not a dictionary. If you want some guidance on how to handle this particular case, you might want to post on Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
 * I have created Rollbahn, and pointed them all there. bd2412  T 18:29, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Recreate JWHA
Hi there. I want to create the redirect link JWHA to point to the John Whitmer Historical Association, but it was deleted in February 2014. The creation page told me to contact the deleting administrator, which appears to be you. Thanks! ——Rich jj (talk) 18:59, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:01, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

rene flemming
R we sure its rene flemming singing dream again in the movie at the end over the credits because that doesnt sound at all like rene flemming Jack Frost Movie Thank Dani — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB90:2182:9913:5624:525C:19A6:34AD (talk) 22:00, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Villacorta
Hi R'n'B,

Thanks for fixing the dab links on Villacorta. However, I was taking a look at the revision history on the page and was wondering if it might be better to split this page into two pages: one about the town in Spain and a separate page about people with the Villacorta name. It appears that this page used to be a SIA for people with the name Villacorta before it was changed into a page about a town in Spain. Natg 19 (talk) 19:04, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes, the way the two topics are crammed into a single article now is quite odd. Sounds like a good idea. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Carballo (name)
Hello R'n'B, I wanted to thank you for your article participation for Carballo (name). I also wanted to ask you for the citation that you applied to the sentence of, "Carballo is recognized by the Spanish crown". I think that the entire article pretty much makes that claim itself already. It gives reference after reference, citation after citation to the common knowledge that indeed time and again it has been documented throughout histories accounts of this family's applied contribution and active participation in the development and growth of what is now modern aged western hemisphere colonization through the support and patronage of the Spanish crown. Do you agree? Then could you please remove the citation needed, thank you R'n'B. Jaimecarballo —Preceding undated comment added 01:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Empty categories
Hi, R'n'B, I tagged those BC categories because they appeared in Database reports/Empty categories. Perhaps if they should be kept despite the fact that they will most likely always remain empty, the EmptyCat notice should be placed on them or else it is likely that some future editor will see them and also tag them CSD C1. Liz Read! Talk! 17:10, 13 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There are a whole slew of "XX BC deaths" categories that were emptied because of a CFD, and then that result was later reversed through the RFC process. So now all those categories are waiting for someone to get around to repopulate them. But they shouldn't stay empty forever, so I'm doubtful that putting an empty category tag on them would be a good idea, either. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:07, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

RussBot question
Would you mind coming to Commons:Commons:Categories for discussion/2015/11/Category:Photographs? The proposal is to move the category to a different title in order to prevent overuse (it's not supposed to contain individual images), but someone says that, as people will continue putting images into such a category (I agree), RussBot will merely move them from Photographs to the new title, making the rename pointless. It would help if you'd throw in a comment on the process, especially regarding the bot's workings. Nyttend (talk) 00:21, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Leyes en Estados Unidos Sobre el alcohol
I may have a made a mistake on this article (and I have before!) with regards to this article and my tagging of it. I used the A2 tag since it's a foreign language article of a existing article here. In other words if translated this is an exact duplicate of Alcohol laws of the United States. So I'm not sure if translating it is needed or not? Wildthing61476 (talk) 22:12, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
 * It could probably be nominated under A10 as a duplication of an existing article. However, I suspect the author just didn't understand how to log in to the Spanish Wikipedia. I'd give him a chance to correct his mistake, then delete it. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 22:40, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Ray Carsar page
Hi thank you for helping me with my Ray Caesar page. He's an artist that deserves to be on wiki! I tried to upload a pic with the written permission of the artist and I sent this e-mail to wiki but still nothing..can you help? Thanks robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robertchiesa (talk • contribs) 09:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks so much
for your back-up on Ray Pohlman. I received a message from a bot this morning and when I went there it appeared that you had fixed all of my oversights except one, which i just did. The article was a thrown together event, mostly because we needed an article on Ray and the time to do it was NOW. Well. . . ..... then. However my lifestyle, living with my 93 year old Mom creates issues for me and it is very comforting to know that there is someone such as you out there peeking over my shoulder. Much appreciated. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:12, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * PS. How can you have the user name "R'n'B" and not have R&B as one of your stated interests?  Just wondering Carptrash (talk) 17:15, 18 November 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. The "R'n'B" nickname goes back a ways, and isn't related to music except in a play-on-words sense. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:55, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Ah, sort of a "You had to be there" thing? Carptrash (talk) 17:46, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Deleted dab page
Hi, you G6'd this and this. That leaves us with excessive hat notes like Megaman which are inconsistent with Mega Man (video game), Mega Man (Game Gear video game), Mega Man (TV series), and Mega Man (character). Think you could sort out the mess? LeadSongDog come howl!  06:44, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * There hasn't been a "Mega Man" disambiguation page since, I think, 2008. All that I deleted was two redirects that pointed to the article about the video game series. I'll grant you that four hatnotes on one article is a lot, but I don't see anything "inconsistent" in this group of articles. What would you think of replacing the mega-hatnote :-) on Megaman with a simpler, "for the video game series and related media, see Mega Man"? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:06, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Whatever works, the subject is of little interest to me, but someone thought the articles worth having....LeadSongDog come howl!  06:34, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:18, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Bots
Hi there! Talking about ; in most cases, when a Brazilian editor insert the category "Santos", its referring to the city Commons:Category:Santos, São Paulo. Perhaps it's a good idea to change this bot action (change "Santos" to "Saints"). Regards, Sturm (talk) 11:19, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The bot does this because some human editor decided to redirect the Commons category commons:Category:Santos to commons:Category:Saints. If you think the redirect is not helpful, I suggest you either change it, or discuss it with the editor who did this in the first place. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:21, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Hardest disambiguation links
Nothing that really stood out, but might be worth keeping track of. — Dispenser 17:05, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * What does this generate? bd2412  T 18:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * The Dab links which most often have the  next to them (approximate).  — Dispenser 19:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I would be interested in knowing what dab links have most often been left on the page while others around them have been fixed. bd2412  T 21:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

User 80.192.224.163 vandalizing Strictly Come Dancing again
Earlier this month, you blocked 80.192.224.163 for vandalizing Strictly Come Dancing (series 1). I just reverted a series of vandalizing edits to Strictly Come Dancing (series 9), one of which was made as I was reverting the others. You will probably wish to block this IP again. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


 * 80.192.224.163 is back, and now vandalizing various Dancing with the Stars articles. It looks like your two-week block, which expired yesterday, has not taught this IP any lessons. Thanks for anything you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:10, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Category moves
Regarding all of the categories that were moved (rather than renamed via CFD) that were done by Swpb...would it be simpler to rollback all of their edits and start from the beginning? I don't think it's possible for a bot to recategorize pages after a category has already been moved/renamed, especially when we are working with hundreds of categories, not just a few. Correct me if I'm wrong. Liz Read! Talk! 14:18, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I already left a message for Swpb. I don't think he intended to leave all those category redirects as he did. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:38, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's not the category redirects, those can be easily deleted. It's the hundreds of articles/pages that need to be recategorized to the new categories. Categories should be renamed, not moved. Liz  Read! Talk! 20:15, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You're right, but in this case it wouldn't work, either way, because the categories are in the templates. The usual category-renaming bots just change category links, not templates. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:54, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, I get frustrated by template-assigned categories so I will definitely stay out of fixing this one. I know there are ways to suppress category assignment but there are so many categories and articles here that I don't think that is an option. Liz  <b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 23:55, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

"Levantino Spanish" name
Hello, if you would be willing, to resolve a small dispute about what it should be called a specific dialect of Spanish in eastern Spain, "Levantino Spanish". I invite you to please read all the proposals and then make your own unbiased apreciation. Thanks.--Vvven (talk) 19:46, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Other national sororities listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Other national sororities. Since you had some involvement with the Other national sororities redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 00:51, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Dear sir I need information of interchanges planned on lahore karachi motorway. Pl reply dr_zafar@yahoo.com Kind regards Dr zafar — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.42.97.75 (talk) 04:47, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Strange edit
Hello. Can you figure out what is going on here? Whether this is an edge case or not, the bot is creating a link to a redirect, which should be avoided. Killiondude (talk) 02:15, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The bot is functioning as intended. The redirect is specifically called for by WP:D. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:10, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

Recent editing on Vishal Dadlani Page
Hi,

I am working with Vishal dadlani and we are working on a wiki page on him which as per the last history, was edited by you. Currently we are facing a problem of automatic redirecting of the page from Vishal Dadlani to his music duo Vishal-Shekhar Which is something we do not want.

Please suggest how to fix this, and stop this redirecting.

-Aparajita — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.39.31.16 (talk) 13:00, 14 December 2015 (UTC)


 * At the moment, Vishal Dadlani is not a redirect. However, it is an article that does not cite any sources. Every Wikipedia article, especially those about living persons, must contain references to reliable, independent sources of information. If editors do not add such references to this article, there is a good chance it will be deleted, or reverted to a redirect. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:32, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Requesting to join a debate for James Stunt
I'm requesting you to join this Afd discussion. Your comment is valuable to us. Please help us reach a consensus. Thanks -Khocon (talk) 19:22, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

List of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats players
Hi R'n'B, I'm keen for the List of Wakefield Trinity Wildcats players article to be easy to maintain. The Template:Sortname states 'This template is deprecated', would you be able to point me towards a working example. Best regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:55, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Oops, I guess I haven't kept up with the latest developments there. The best thing I can suggest is following the link contained in the deprecation message at the top of that template documentation. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:30, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

List of people with surname Carpenter is an anthroponomy article
FYI

List of people with surname Carpenter is an anthroponomy article and is not a disambiguation page. The Manual of Style for disambiguation pages do not apply to this article and other List articles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Given_names_or_surnames Given names or surnames Shortcuts: MOS:DABNAME WP:DABSUR "MOS:DABNAME" redirects here. For the guideline regarding how to name disambiguation pages, see Wikipedia:Disambiguation § Naming the disambiguation page. Main page: Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthroponymy Persons who have the ambiguous term as surname or given name should be listed in the body of the disambiguation page if they are frequently referred to simply by the single name (e.g., Elvis, Shakespeare). For short lists of name holders, new sections of Persons with the surname Xxxx or Persons with the given name Xxxx can be added below the main disambiguation list. For longer lists, create an anthroponymy list article and link to it from the disambiguation page. If it isn't clear that the article includes a list, consider mentioning that in the description. For example: Marilyn (given name), a female given name (including a list of persons with the name) Hunter (name), a given name and a family name (including a list of persons with the name) Articles only listing persons with a certain given name or surname, known as anthroponymy articles, are not disambiguation pages, and this Manual of Style does not apply to them. Anthroponymy articles follow their own style standards.

Please stop applying Disambig rules to list articles and follow the rules of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Disambiguation_pages#Given_names_or_surnames.

Thank you. Jrcrin001 (talk) 19:47, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * You cite ...

Links to disambiguation pages Shortcuts: WP:INTDABLINK WP:INTDAB Links to disambiguation pages from mainspace are typically errors. In order to find and fix those errors, disambiguators generate a wide array of reports of links needing to be checked and fixed. Because these reports can not distinguish instances where an editor has made such a link with the intent to point to the disambiguation page, the community has adopted the policy of rerouting all intentional disambiguation links in mainspace through "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects. This makes it clear that such links are intended to point to the disambiguation page.

For example: In text or in a "see also" section: Incorrect: There are many places named Springfield Correct: There are many places named Springfield

In a hatnote: Incorrect: Correct:, or With few exceptions, creating links to disambiguation pages is erroneous. Links should instead point to a relevant article. The purpose of a disambiguation page is to give a user who has typed an ambiguous term into the search box a list of articles that are likely to be what he or she is looking for.

And ... Disambiguation pages#Given names or surnames "Articles only listing persons with a certain given name or surname, known as anthroponomy articles, are not disambiguation pages, and this Manual of Style does not apply to them."

Applying disambiguation rules to list articles is a violation of Wiki standards and disambig rules. Example: List of people with surname Spencer [edit] Shortcut: WP:APOLIST The Spencer (surname) has a good deal of content, so adding the full list of people with the surname would be excessive. There are enough persons with that surname to support its own list. List of people with surname Spencer is not a disambiguation page; it is a List. The same applies to this list and other similar lists.

Disambiguation What not to include ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Partial_title_matches ... To prevent disambiguation pages from getting too long, articles on people should be listed at the disambiguation page for their first or last name only if they are reasonably well-known by it. We reasonably expect to see Abraham Lincoln at Lincoln (disambiguation), but very few sources would refer to the waltz composer Harry J. Lincoln by an unqualified "Lincoln", so he is only listed at the Lincoln (surname) anthroponomy article. '''This is even more widespread for first names—many highly notable people are called Herb, but typing in Herb gets you an article on plants. Herb (disambiguation) does not even list any people named "Herb", but instead links to Herb (surname) and Herb (given name), where articles on people named "Herb" are listed.''' Consensus among editors determines if an article should be listed on the disambiguation page.

Instead of nitpicking one rule and not reading and applying other related rules in a logical manner you have created a non-consensus and edit warring. This obviously needs to be dealt with on a higher level. I will be referring to upward. In the mean time, wait for consensus.

Thank you Jrcrin001 (talk) 20:34, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Be my guest. To be frank, I have no idea what you are going on about. WP:INTDABLINK is very clear, and it applies to any link to a disambiguation page in any article, whether it is an anthroponymy list or anything else. Under the "How to link to a disambiguation page" heading, it says, 'To link to a disambiguation page (rather than to a page whose topic is a specific meaning), link to the title that includes the text "(disambiguation)", even if that is a redirect—for example, link to the redirect America (disambiguation) rather than the target page at "America".' (Emphasis in original.) That's what I did. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:23, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#List_of_people_with_surname_Carpenter_is_an_anthroponomy_article_or_must_have_similar_names_re-directed_to_disambiguation_pages.3F

Jrcrin001 (talk) 21:33, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Christmas Wishes
Christmas wishes Always :) (talk) 15:33, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year R&#39;n&#39;B!
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Happy New Year! R&#39;n&#39;B, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:56, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year 2016}} to user talk pages. Dear Russ, Thank you once again for all your helpful assistance, and for everything else that you do in support of our encyclopedia. I wish you a great New Year in 2016! With kind regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(guestbook) 17:56, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

African divination
I think the source text read Togo not Tongo, so I've corrected it, though I'm not sure how I might have read Togo since I would have have seen Tongo to write Tongo (no such has ever happened I'm sure, unless it was a hallucination or dyslexia maybe) so I'm attributing the error to a slip of memory having gone through the source to locate each country at the time of the first writing. Since I can't see the actual source pages of the source from here, but an internal search to the book shows Togo returns but not Tongo (and having researched for Tongo in any case on the net, which seems to confirm Togo is correct) I changed the article to Togo. Happy New Year Whalestate (talk) 21:48, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikiversity:Bots
There is a current discussion about changes to the v:Wikiversity:Bots policy. As a bot operator we would welcome your input at v:Wikiversity_talk:Bots. --mikeu talk 15:13, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix ( talk ) 02:09, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Guanín (bronze)
An article that you have been involved in editing&mdash;Guanín (bronze) &mdash;has been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. Anomalocaris (talk) 21:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Automatic category-redirect moves
Hi, I'm wondering if RussBot, or any bot, automatically moves pages that are accidentally placed into a category-#redirect into their target category, kind of similar to this? (although Category:Main-belt asteroids has no category-#redirects at the moment, but it still functions) I'm creating some categories and will base my decisions off of the answer to this question. Thanks! ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 17:47, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes. As the diff you linked to indicates, RussBot will move a page that has been placed in a redirected category into the category that is the target of the redirect. Category:Main Belt asteroids is indeed a redirect (it contains the Category redirect template). (The "dispenser" tool you linked to is looking for hard redirects, which aren't used in the category namespace.) You should note, however, that the bot is designed (as you suggested) for accidental miscategorizations; it contains various delays and throttles so that it is not a substitute for using the WP:CFD process for massive category renamings. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:52, 10 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you :)  ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  19:22, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

RussBot re-creating deleted category
Hi, I noticed that RussBot re-created a category redirect page a few minutes after I deleted it as unnecessary: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Category:1609_in_the_Southern_Netherlands

Is this intentional? – Fayenatic  L ondon 08:31, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No, it's not intentional. It's effectively a race condition. The bot loads a list of categories with redirect templates, then processes it; you must have deleted the category after the list was loaded but before it reached this item. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:33, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * "Processes it"? Is it seeking to deal with any contents in the category, for which it needs the redirect to exist? Well, I guess I can just ignore it. I noticed that you picked up a similar one shortly afterwards – thanks. – Fayenatic  L ondon 12:24, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
 * To be more specific, the bot touches each category redirect, so that if the page was in Category:Wikipedia non-empty soft redirected categories or a similar maintenance category before the bot ran, it will be cleared out. That requires saving the category page, which results in creation if the page has been deleted in the meantime. I will take a look at the code to see if it's possible to prevent this. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:19, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Category:Tropang TNT seasons
Why did you set protection for this empty category? Liz <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 14:15, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you read the deletion log and protection log entries for this page, I think the reason will be fairly clear. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:05, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If a category is empty and there is no tag on the category, it is valid to delete it. Just because another category points to it, it's not being utilized. All it needs is one article to be assigned to it and it will no longer be empty but I don't see a valid reason in the log for keeping it.  Liz  <sup style="font-family:Times New Roman;"><b style="color:#006400;">Read!</b> <b style="color:#006400;">Talk!</b> 20:53, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You're elevating form over substance. You marked the category for deletion, and it was deleted by another admin, all in accordance with policies. But then when another admin undeleted it, the correct response would have been to contact me and find out what was going on before deleting it a second time. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:15, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Global System for Mobile Communications <--> GSM
Hi R'n'B. Why was this swap "improper"? I had added a merged-from and merged-to banner on the respective talk pages. The reason for the swap is, that GSM should direct to the disambiguation page than directly to the mobile standard... Nightwalker-87 (talk) 21:30, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:CUTPASTE explains that you shouldn't "rename" a page by cut and pasting its text into a different title, because it is important to maintain the complete page edit history in one place. The correct approach is to use the Wikipedia move function; or to request a move at WP:RM if you aren't able to do it yourself. Also, was this change discussed anywhere before you did it? Changing the name of a widely-linked article without discussion (regardless of how you do it) is rarely a good idea. Finally, for technical reasons, if this move were to be done, the correct solution would be to move GSM (disambiguation) to GSM after moving the article about the mobile standard, rather than leaving the latter title as a redirect. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:44, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Ok, I understand, and thank you for the revert also. I'll request a move at WP:RM soon and hope to initiate a discussion with this procedure. Nightwalker-87 (talk) 13:01, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Sea Witch
Hey, since you're so concerned about retaining the outright nonsense that is Wikipedia's sea witch article—which does not contain a single reliable source—rather than the logical redirect to witchcraft, why don't you take that itchy revert finger and actually try to do something about improving it rather than simply wasting the time of other editors? &#58;bloodofox: (talk) 02:32, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Territorialism primariy topic discussion
It would be great to get your perspective on the further discussion at Talk:Territorialism. Thank you, -- Nataly a 21:27, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Russian Karaites
Hi Russ, I see you ask people here to call you Russ so I hope it is ok for me to do so. Thank you for the WP:MOSDAB edit to the Russian Karaites page. I am not very familiar with the Manual of Style yet so I wanted to check with you to see if it is ok to edit the Subbotnik line to something like this?
 * a type of Molokan-Subbotnik drawn towards Karaite Judaism also called Subbotnik-Qaraimits (субботники-караимиты).

Would that be OK? I don't know if you can read Russian (I use google translate) but here are some links on the subject, , , , , ,. The main references I have used for the suggestion I post here is from Bulgakov and [https://books.google.co.il/books?id=x14GAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA383&lpg=PA383&dq=%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8B&source=bl&ots=DajVKDVsnJ&sig=Jz21FZqQEYPRAA9pZHkvbuGE-_k&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjh8tC10b7LAhXlHpoKHfRoDsgQ6AEIRDAG#v=onepage&q=%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8B&f=false Т.И. Буткевич] Best regards. YuHuw (talk) 21:48, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't read Russian, alas. But WP:MOSDAB says, among other things, that when writing an entry for a disambiguation page, "Include exactly one navigable (blue) link to efficiently guide readers to the most relevant article for that use of the ambiguous term. Do not wikilink any other words in the line." Your entry has three links. The purpose of a disambiguation page is to guide readers to the article they are looking for when they use an ambiguous title such as "Karaite Jews". The entry you suggest above would offer them three different articles, with no indication of which one (if any) actually discusses a group of people referred to as "Russian Karaites." --R'n'B (call me Russ) 23:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, I think I have come up with a creative and constructive solution. Could you look over this new stub if you have a chance please? Qaraimits YuHuw (talk) 07:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Britannia's Fist
Thank you for looking over the article; I would like some more input as to how you would suggest making the page less of a plot summary and more of an encyclopedia article. The series was published in the last ten years, so I really have no idea what cultural impact its had, and what reviews I've seen are from Amazon rather than more respectable names.

Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Britannia%27s_Fist_Trilogy

Gunpowderpatron (talk) 17:29, 11 March 2016 (UTC)


 * I don't know anything about this book series (despite having indulged in various other alternative history novels in my time), so I can only offer very general suggestions. Has it won any awards? Has it been cited by any literary critics as influential? Is it discussed in any military history journals? If the answer to all of these is "no," then there would be some question as to whether the books even meet the minimal standard of notability. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:43, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

New Jersey English
Hi! Why should we not consider the page New Jersey English a disambiguation page? Would it be appropriate to make it so, since it already seems to have the basic appearance of a disambiguation page? Wolfdog (talk) 00:39, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Is it because there's a reference on the page? Wolfdog (talk) 20:21, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * More to the point, there isn't any dialect commonly referred to as "New Jersey English." Rather, we have a list of dialects, each of which is commonly known by a different name, but is spoken by some people in New Jersey. The fact that there is a reference is collateral; if the page were suitable to be a disambiguation page, we could simply delete the reference. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:38, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
 * So are you in favor of deletion then? Wolfdog (talk) 21:25, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
 * No, not if the list can be supported by reliable sources like any other Wikipedia article. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:32, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

You are the admin here
Act with maturity. ©  Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 19:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Really? You were the one who chose to create a disambiguation page without first fixing the incoming links. Do you think it is "mature" to deliberately break existing links and create errors that other users have to find and fix? --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:40, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I chose to finish what another user didn't even attempt to do two years ago, and I AM the bad guy here because I didn't want to disambiguate all links at 3 in the morning? FFS, WP:DAB is a guideline, and by any mean you can't enforce someone to follow it. ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5).
 * We are all volunteers here, and you have the right to act inconsiderately if that is how you choose to behave, whether at 3 am or any other time. I didn't threaten you or report you or take any kind of action against you as a user, nor would I. However, that does not mean that admins (or anyone else for that matter) have to leave the errors you created in place. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:48, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this, because in a nutshell you are telling me "as long as you don't create an incoming links error, you can move pages as you please". No need to reply. ©   Tb hotch ™ (en-2.5). 20:50, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Re: Joker
The person who redirected it apparently had it somewhere on his talk page that they discussed it-unless if I misread it, I'm going to have to look again. Wgolf (talk) 19:25, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Not sure why it would be 2 separate articles though to be honest, I must of misread something...might want to ask the guy that started to move it. Wgolf (talk) 19:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I really don't understand what is supposed to be accomplished by starting another article, but I also don't really feel like delving into it. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:23, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Ledcor Group of Companies
I'm not sure that the use of "federal" there is referring to the US government. The reference mentions Nunavut and Utah. Regulations for the territory of Nunavut would be with the Government of Canada but would the US state of Utah fall under the Federal government of the United States? CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 10:04, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You've got a good point, but I also don't think it is referring exclusively to the Government of Canada, either. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:26, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Valerie Ashby Article
Hello! Thanks so much for fixing some parts of the article on Valerie Ashby that my group and I started. I tried to fix some things that were suggested (it sounds too much like a resume, etc.) and I was wondering if you would mind taking another look at it if you have time? Thanks! Cortnie330 (talk) 17:34, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Tan Sri Syed Sheh Al-Haj bin Syed Hassan Barakbah listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Tan Sri Syed Sheh Al-Haj bin Syed Hassan Barakbah. Since you had some involvement with the Tan Sri Syed Sheh Al-Haj bin Syed Hassan Barakbah redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 05:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Serhiy Sobolev
, I need you to undo your last edit on Sergei Sobolev. First of all he is Ukrainian and was born in Ukraine. There is officially adopted Ukrainian National transliteration and Sergei Sobolev does not comply with it. Second of all there are source that use his real name Serhiy Sobolev such this article (Ukrinform) among many others. If you wish not to so, please, be so kind to explain me your reason. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 02:12, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I did not revert your edit because of any concern over how the name should be spelled. (Also, the article I edited was Sergei Sobolev (politician), not Sergei Sobolev, which is about a different person entirely.) You redirected the article to another redirect, so that the article became totally inaccessible to all readers. If there is a problem with the title, that is not the way to fix it. Please see WP:Requested moves, which is the place to resolve this issue. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 09:52, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

May's Disambiguation count
I think we've got it right now :)  ... 12:33, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for your edits to articles 102 FM and National Radio Television Foundation. Do not you think ... this madness redirects the entries exists in Greek Wikipedia .--Νικόλας Παπαποστόλου (talk) 18:04, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Peaceful Seas (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Peaceful Seas (disambiguation). Since you had some involvement with the Peaceful Seas (disambiguation) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. -- Tavix ( talk ) 18:09, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

RE: Tushar Unadkat: Draft
Hi there R'n'B,

Apologies if I'm being too hasty, but I noticed that a couple of weeks previously you rejected the draft page I created for someone that I admire to have contributed much to South Asian communities - "Tushar Unadkat". However, since then I have re-submitted a new draft, and I have been waiting for a reply. I was hoping you may be able to look over it again and let me know if there's any way I can improve this as to have it approved. I've tried my best and hope you will be patient with me. Thank you for your help.

All the best, Daniel Jason Binks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danieljasonbinks (talk • contribs) 15:37, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


 * I think you are mistaken. I neither reviewed nor rejected this submission. I think you are thinking of User:Onel5969, who, as a matter of fact, left a message on your User talk page about this submission. (By the way, if you want me to look at a particular page on Wikipedia, it would be helpful if you would wikilink  the title to make it easier for me to find.) --R'n'B (call me Russ) 15:43, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi - Yes, it was me who rejected the draft (thanks for the ping R'n'B). And you've never resubmitted. Please follow the instructions. Simply removing the decline message does not resubmit the draft - indeed it impedes the process and puts the draft in limbo. I've re-added the declination box. To resubmit, please click on the resubmit tag.  Onel 5969  <i style="color:blue">TT me</i> 16:07, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

CSD tool
Hi Russ, your useful CSD page is returning an error: <type 'exceptions.KeyError'> Python 2.7.3: /usr/bin/python Wed May 18 12:51:32 2016

A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred.

/data/project/russbot/public_html/csd.py in

236            if r == "Db-g6" and "Deprecated" in rsns: 237                continue => 238             r_list.append(reasons[r]) 239        reason_cell = " ".join(r_list) 240        if not reason_cell: r_list = [" G11 Advertising (G11)"], r_list.append = <built-in method append of list object>, reasons = {'Db-a1': " A01 No context (A1)", 'Db-a10': " A10 Content fork (A10)", 'Db-a11': " A11 Obviously invented (A11)", 'Db-a2': " A02 Foreign copy (A2)", 'Db-a3': " A03 No content (A3)", 'Db-a5': " A05 Transwikied (A5)", 'Db-a7': " A07 Notability (A7)", 'Db-a9': " A09 Notability/music (A9)", 'Db-c1': " C1 Empty category (C1)", 'Db-c2': " C2 Speedy renaming (C2)", ...}, r = u'Hang on'

<type 'exceptions.KeyError'>: u'Hang on' args = (u'Hang on',) message = u'Hang on' Betacommand's works, but yours is better! Fences &amp;  Windows  12:53, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the alert! Fixed now. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:35, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Disambig. page
Hi, Please explain why your bot keeps changing the link to Çiçekli to "Çiçekli (disambiguation)". Page Çiçekli is already a disambiguation page. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 17:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:D, which explains it quite succinctly. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:13, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Rodney Erickson
Hi-When I moved the notable persons section in the Frederic, Wisconsin article I accidentally added the wrong university. The Rodney Erickson article mentioned he was president of the Pennsylvania State University. My apologies for any problems. It was not an intentional edit.RFD (talk) 17:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey
The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has appointed a committee to lead the search for the foundation’s next Executive Director. One of our first tasks is to write the job description of the executive director position, and we are asking for input from the Wikimedia community. Please take a few minutes and complete this survey to help us better understand community and staff expectations for the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director.
 * Survey, (hosted by Qualtrics)

Thank you, The Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Steering Committee via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Lincoln's call up of troops
Lincoln's call up of troops is after Fort Sumter, confirmed in the Senate special session of July. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 05:41, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

86.58.36.235
Block user:86.58.36.235 for vandalism. 2602:306:3357:BA0:8DB8:C6E6:5396:67C7 (talk) 21:14, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I see the dispute you had with that user appears to have been resolved, and it is not at all clear that the edits you reverted were vandalism. If there is a next time, please provide better evidence of your claims, and take it to WP:AIV if you can't resolve the issue by discussing it with the other editor first. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:17, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:50, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vedic Ashram
In March, you were involved in Articles for deletion/Vedic Institute of Canada. This new AfD (Articles for deletion/Vedic Ashram) could be of interest to you. <span style="font-family:'Old English Text MT',serif;color:green">The Banner <i style="color:maroon">talk</i> 23:12, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

TE-protected double redirects
Hi R'n'B, I currently think that we don't have a bot capable of fixing template-protected or fully-protected double redirects. There've been 2 occasions where I had to make TE-level corrections. One was a TE-protected redirect that turned into a double-redirect when a template moved. The second was an editnotice (which is technically innocuous). Pretty sure that Xqbot is not flagged with templateeditor. Does it make sense to give Russbot that flag to correct at least TE-prot pages, or those on the title blacklist? If not, (I don't have too much more context into the bot) I wonder if there's some bot-generated report of these. — Andy W.  ( talk  · ctb) 06:05, 8 July 2016 (UTC) 06:08, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, currently on Special:DoubleRedirects, there are zero entries in the Template: namespace (and, that's your desired report). So I don't think this is a frequent problem. It probably can be handled by admins manually checking the double-redirects list from time to time. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:45, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Moving page name
Greetings, R'n'B. I found your name on the list of active administrators and I thought you could help me. I'm editing the articles of this Russian-Ukrainian group called VIA Gra, which in the past used the name Nu Virgos, as it is currently used in their Wikipedia articles, for their English releases. However, the group has a new formation since 2013 and all their releases are under the name of "VIA Gra", not "Nu Virgos" anymore. I would like to ask you to move the page name "Nu Virgos" to "VIA Gra". I created a section in the the talk page, but I decided to ask for help because I cannot move the page by myself. One of the reasons that I'm asking for it is that I'm editing their articles, as you can see in their discography page. Sincerely, Lucas RdS (talk) 23:04, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello. I see that there is an active move request discussion on the talk page you linked to; it would be inappropriate for me to move the page while that discussion remains open, and so far it does not appear to have reached any consensus. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:39, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

Member of parliament, India (disambiguation)

 * R'n'B, thanks for moving Member of parliament, India (disambiguation) to Member of parliament (India). Honestly, I was in two minds myself but your action is certainly appreciated. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk)  13:43, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Comic Book Character Infobox addition help request
Hey I wanted to make an addition to the comic book character info box template and was wondering if you could help me or point me in the right direction to make it happen? I wanted to add a relatives section to it since real people also have them on their info boxes so why why not comic book characters as well? What do you think? and how can I make it happen? I've been looking for someone who can help me make this a reality and was hoping it was you so what do you say?

Fluffyroll11 (talk) 18:37, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not really the best person to ask about this. I only have a passing familiarity with the formatting of infoboxes, and I don't have a lot of time right now either. I'd suggest posting on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes to find a user who would be able to help with this. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 09:41, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Deleted Content
I've returned after a long gap to discover my wiki content has been deleted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Csg1993/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1

Is it possible to restore it? Many thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csg1993 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Your submission was moved by another user to the title Articles for creation/Cochrane Stroke Group, and then deleted (as you can see here) as an unambiguous copyright infringement. Because of the copyright issue, I cannot restore the content. If you wish to create an article about this business, please do so using original content, and include references to reliable sources to establish that the subject of the article is notable. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 09:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)