User talk:RHM22/Archive 8

Welcome back!
It is indeed good to have you back.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:06, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! It's good to be back. Should I change my user page to reflect my resysopping, or does a bot do that automatically?
 * I would make the change manually.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:09, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think you're right. It looks like the edit was performed manually in the first place.-RHM22 (talk) 21:15, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Never hurts to anticipate a bot anyway!--Wehwalt (talk) 21:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has more bots than a Fritz Lang film. Most of them are helpful, though.-RHM22 (talk) 22:35, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Just dumped Barber coinage at FAC.  As you can see, we still have no good source of images, one reason I am turning to early commems as most of those have PD images on the Mint's website.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:01, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I'll take a look right now. Some things never change.-RHM22 (talk) 04:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I added some Barber images (what I have anyway), so hopefully those are an improvement over what you had. Let me know if there is anything else I can help with. BrandonBigheart (talk) 05:07, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Will do! Thanks again for your contributions.-RHM22 (talk) 04:03, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I recently upgraded my Morgan Dollar to one graded MS67+. I replaced the older images for the Morgan Dollar (that were also mine) with the new ones.  I hope that's okay.BrandonBigheart (talk) 18:03, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Of course! Your photographs are always top notch.-RHM22 (talk) 15:47, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

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American Arts
Nothing wrong with it that I can see. I tweaked a bit and added a bit on the end to tie it into the American Eagles. You may want to consider adopting the sfn referencing format that I now use, that way you avoid calling 2 references the same thing and things like that. User:Br'er Rabbit would be delighted to school you in the finer points. Also, watch the capitalization of titles, I think I did it consistently, but you should double-check.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:10, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

That would be me ;) I do this a lot; to most of the FA Wehwalt's written, for example. There were a few that we worked on that had you in their history, so you'll be noticing stuff. Welcome back. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 22:07, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help, guys! Is that the same as what used to be referred to as "Harvard citations"? Is that the preferred method now? There have been several changes in my absence. I noticed that there is also article feedback now!-RHM22 (talk) 15:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * The article feedback is great although I wish there was a better way of following up when it is an IP who left it ... I think Harvard citations is harvnb, I still use that sometimes as sfn won't work well in a footnote. I would say that it is a preferred method, but any method which makes it harder to make mistakes would be good.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:15, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think it's an improvement over the old system, which was pretty much nothing. It's a nice way for IPs to leave feedback. Many of them probably don't know about the talk pages. I'll update the footnotes later today. I should probably start updating my other articles as well.-RHM22 (talk) 16:21, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I think Br'er had already done a few in your absence.--Wehwalt (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * So he has! Thanks for that, Br'er. You've been busy in the old briar patch.-RHM22 (talk) 16:41, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. I quite . That's an interim step; see pages like Murray Chotiner for how a mix of book and web sources get upgraded. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 19:53, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * sfn is part of the harv suite; it's basically harvnb automatically wrapped with  and given a unique generated name. This is now widely use although there a few underfoot with their minds still stuck in 2006. Key points; it removes the error-prone naming of refs by doing the naming with a consistent scheme. This naming results in automatic collation of duplicate pages number references without editors haveing to do anything other than assign p or pp. It just happens for you. More advanced control is obtained by using the utility template sfnRef to take over the footnote text (from Author Year). Mostly this is for omitting the year when it's getting repetitive. It's also used when you want the footnote text to be something like New York Times October 7, 2012. Not everything has an author credit; websites, especially.
 * You should script-up; User:RHM22/common.js is not serving you well at all. See User:Br'er Rabbit/common.js and start copying. I'd suggest you start with:


 * They have documentation at the same pages wo/".js". User:Ucucha/HarvErrors is especially important for the sfn/harv tools. It adds error messages when things are not linking properly (it also can generate some false positives, but that's for later;). Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:37, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * His stuff works and makes my life easier by either preventing me from or pointing out my referencing mistakes. So I do it.  Well worth having him look over your work as you do it.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:56, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Pardon my ignorance, but could you please explain what the code does? My understanding of Wiki markup is very basic.-RHM22 (talk) 17:09, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

For the scripts, see:
 * User:Cameltrader/Advisor
 * User:GregU/dashes
 * User:PleaseStand/segregate-refs and
 * User:Ucucha/HarvErrors

sfn and sfnRef have documentation, too. Basically sfn is a way of simplifying and shortening footnotes. Sources go in some sort of references section and inline citations are simply added where needed. No need to name duplicates or be concerned with collation at all. And with the HarvErrors script you get feedback on whether things are linking up properly. Missing sources and typos are then easily fixed. You get consistent format to things, too. If you grab a paragraph from a related article, the footnotes will work out if all is being done with a topic-wide plan. If the paragraph is using a source not in the pasted-to article, you'll be alerted to the fact and should then just go get it from the copied-from article. Wehwalt's done a lot of this with more recent coin/coinage article. It all about building up patterns in wide swaths of articles.

sfn is still 'doing' ref tags, they're just under the hood, as are the names. Hope that helps. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 17:36, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's basically what I do. All of the coin articles I have have sfn now, so it's easy to set up the references section and you don't have to remember reference names or risk duplicating them.--Wehwalt (talk) 17:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * We do seem to have wandered further into using Author sans-year in a lot of this topic area. We had spoken of using years even where unnecessary for disambiguation to avoid conflicts when pasting up higher level articles ... should we pick a direction to push this? Br'er Rabbit (talk) 18:15, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I prefer not to use years. Some of these books get reprinted and I'm working from the reprinted ones, like Taxay.  A new edition of Yeoman comes out every year.  If I update, I've got to change every reference (note:  I obviously still have to check every reference).  However, if good enough reasons are given me, I'll grumble and go with the flow.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not going to argue for years; repetition is poor practise and contributes to wikitext-clutter and too-long shortened-footnotes. When compositing higher level pages from extant pages there will be instances where years and/or title fragments will need to be added, as will occasionally be the case when bringing a new source into an article. This is the norm in other topic areas such as all the German ships and the solar system full of rocks. I'll probably revisit some coin articles to trim some years out of the sfns. Br'er Rabbit (talk) 23:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you both for the interesting dialogue. I'm not still not certain that I fully understand the template, but I'll read up on it and try and get it all figured out. It took me a while to learn basic markup!-RHM22 (talk) 03:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

American Arts 2
This might be useful to you.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:47, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'll look into that. Sorry about my absence, by the way. I got busy for a little while.-RHM22 (talk) 03:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I got a fair amount of stuff on this at the ANA library last week. I went through all the contemporary CoinAge and Coin magazines.--Wehwalt (talk) 01:44, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * I like the coin ... it looks like it was created from a 2 euro piece.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:07, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Re: Hello!
Thanks! You've also done fantastic work over the years here (have any time for a go at the 2013 Wikicup?). And yeah, it will be depressing once the series is gone. Fringe helped me deal with Lost's end, but I don't really have a replacement for it (Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead maybe? -- certainly nothing on network television anymore!). :( I'm planning on bringing all the S1 episodes to GA for the Wikicup, though I do not have any immediate plans for S4 and S5. Thanks again for the note; it's always nice to feel appreciated! :)  Ruby  2010/  2013  05:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

GA and FA Thanks
On behalf of WP:CHICAGO, I would like to thank you for your editorial contributions to Columbian half dollar, which has recently become a GA and then an FA. --TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:55, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Precious again
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Thank you for raising our awareness for coins, treated with competence and dedication, - a small gem in additions to your crowns, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC) A year ago, you were the 135th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:44, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

File mover status?
Hi RHM, sorry for the delayed reply. I noticed that you asked me on my talk page whether I would like File Mover status. I have been uploading more and more coin photos, and have found that it may be useful indeed. Particularly, I found myself in a bind lately (and I did something silly) because of a naming issue with some of my uploaded images. Let me know if this is still possible. Thanks --BrandonBigheart (talk) 14:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Regrettably, he hasn't been very active recently. I will ask PumpkinSky for you by email.--Wehwalt (talk) 14:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
 * rollbacker, confirmed user and file mover rights given on Commons. Pumpkin Sky   talk  15:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

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To my fellow friend of the Franklin Institute
Hello :) It's your old swiss-chard-soup loving fellow Studio Ghibli fan from back when you were a slimy fish. I am acutely aware of how creepy this is (answer: VERY) but I found this page by looking for your articles - I wanted to brush up on my numismatics and also I didn't know how else to get in touch with you to say that I think you're really, really great and I hope you're okay and happy right now. You can email me anytime: [name of christian messiah]hasavespa@[big news website that is also an exclamation of excitment/joy].com or message me at the other place. 99.231.75.200 (talk) 21:56, 13 July 2013 (UTC) Jaq-o-phelia <3
 * I don't know where RHM22 is right now, he returned briefly but hasn't edited in several months. However, if it is any help, I am doing my best to carry the numismatics torch around here in his absence. Note that if you register an account, you can use the "email this user" function, though it may take several days and edits for you to gain the status which allows you to use it (that's to protect against spam).--Wehwalt (talk) 23:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know and even more for carrying the torch! I wouldn't have known about the Morgan Dollar without you guys :) I did register an account, but I don't see the email link yet. I verified my account via email, so I'll wait a few days and check back. Really appreciate your help. Jesushasavespa (talk) 22:21, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Make a few edits to different articles, I'm sure you can find something constructive to edit. That will do it.  Yes, that is one of RHM22, he was our dollar guy.  I've been doing a lot of the smaller (and larger) denominations, plus finishing some of his work.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:57, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Wehwalt, for fielding this on my behalf. I must apologize for the absurd delay; once again, I was kept very busy and Wikipedia slipped my mind. I will certainly try to be more active from here on in.-RHM22 (talk) 00:13, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

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