User talk:RHaworth/2013 Mar 26

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Deletion of Nanacoco
Dear Mr. Haworth, I noticed that you deleted the Nanacoco article, on the ground that it is and advertisement. As I am new to Wikipedia, I would very much appreciate your expert comments on how I can write article about a fashion brand that would past the wiki criteria. Our intension is only to report fact and post historical development of a fashion brand with the hope that oneday it could be useful to anyone who is a student of fashion or have interested in fashion industry. Although, this is rarely done by any fashion companies as they would most likely treat it as company secret, but in our oppionion - sharing is better. As we would continue to add more and more content to wiki on our brand, I want to make sure that we do it the right way.
 * Is it a particular sentence? word? link? I think I could remove the words "leading manufacturer", and also the links to our own webpage and facebook.
 * The rest of the links were real discussion and citation that other website have mentioned about our brand. Can I still refer to these third party website and articles?

In comparison: I saw an article on Harajuku Lovers, which seems to be well accepted. So I guess writing about fashion brand is not inappropriate, but I would like to get your oppinion on how Harajuku Lovers article would be less advertising than Nanacoco. Also, I would appreciate if you could restore Nanacoco article, so that I can don't have to start from scratch again..... Much appreciated your help on this regards, Oldprame 14:09, 5 March 2013 (Thailand)


 * We were not impressed by the references which fell short of our criteria for significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. What a ridiculous idea to omit links to the company's own website. But you did not provide one - presumably because the company does not have a website yet. Other stuff exists is never an argument and Harajuku Lovers is a very bad example to chose - it is an hang over when Wikipedia was less fussy about evidence. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:16, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, and a steep learning curve for me. Our brand is 13 year and still going strong. It is wellknown to customer from many asian countries, but perhaps less so to Westerners. The company website is undergoing facelift at the moment, and is meant to be included in the article later on. See old website. Harajuku was a bad example, but looks like Tokyogirl79 is reacting quickly to add references to TV medias and a book! I guess when the brand owner being a wellknown celebrity, the brand can easily gain media promotion.

The evidence I provided were real coverage by independent websites and TV programs to advise traveller from Japan and Korea on the hot shopping destination, but how can it be proven to you in this case? These are old coverage by the way. Notable sources such as CNN, BBC, or even Fashion channel will be unlikely. So eventhough if any person with no COI would want to write about us, what would constitute a notable source for them to reference? &mdash; Oldprame 3:00, 6 March 2013 (Thailand)


 * Did you see the letters COI above? Did you see that they were a link? Did you follow that link? I take the view that you should not be contributing to Wikipedia on this subject. Fortunately for you, you may have a supporter. If (or any other established editor) tells me that your company is notable, then I will agree an article. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

My appology. I did not mean to offend or annoy you in anyway, so please ignore the COI email I replied to you as well. I did follow and read the article on COI, but my brain was not receptive at 2:30 AM. After reading it again just now, I do understand and agree that I shall not be the person to post articles on NANACOCO brand. Instead, I shall gather good reliable information and send to one of the reputable wikipedia editors for their review and inclusion into wikipedia. Thank you... Oldprame 21:58, 6 March 2013 (Thailand)

Fischer Z / John Watts
Hi There - I'm afraid I'm not particularly au-fait with the ways of Wikipedia but I am currently helping manage the singer/poet/playwright John Watts, formerly the founder and still sole member of Fischer-Z. There have previously been attempts to create a separate page for John, as he is about to tour with his new project, Round The World, comprising of songs, poems and his new play which will be performed across various locations around the world, including the Edinburgh Fringe and the Wilton Music Hall in London.

Unfortunately you have deleted the solo page for John Watts citing a copyright infringement of Fischer-Z, which would be unusual seeing as he is Fischer-Z! As I mentioned, we're keen to rectify and problems like this as soon as possible, in order that people are able to see John's catalogue of work independently of the Fischer-Z work.

Could you please advise of how to go about this. It may be easier to communicate via my email which you'll find at 74promotions.com ? Best regards, Andy Hollis, 81.159.220.124 (talk) 14:26, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * You clearly are not au-fait with the ways of Wikipedia or you would not declare so blatantly that you are a spammer. Please read this and this and search this page for the word "wait". &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:21, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Well I apologise if in some way I've broken some kind of protocol, but I'm in no way a "spammer" and I have no idea why you should throw that at me. I've signed up now (sorry I didn't before), but remember we were all new at some stage so was just hoping for a little help here in understanding what was happening. I rather hope you might be able to appreciate that. 74music (talk) 18:51, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I realise there may be some kind of COI that you'll likely throw at me - I'm not wishing to be a Wikipedia editor, nor am I wishing to write a page for John Watts - what I'm trying to do is understand why the original page was deleted by you for copyright infringement (I actually have no idea who wrote the original page) 74music (talk) 19:12, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The original page was a copy of this page. Since it contains no copyright notice, we had to assume that its status is "all rights reserved" and using it on Wikipedia was a copyright violation. The Wikipedia page also qualified for deletion for a total absence of independent references. Whilst it is not a formal deletion criterion, it deserved deletion for the uttter idleness of the author, for making no attempt to create a Wikipedia article. Since the guy may actually be notable enough to qualify for an article, you may get some joy if you find a "sponsor". &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for the response. I shall try and find a sponsor as advised. 74music (talk) 15:04, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Notability issue
I am back, but not about Nanacoco. I am planning to add new articles on other topic of interest, such as Thai woodworking tools and technique. However, I fear that citation would be an issue again. Although there are many people who are interested about woodworking around the world, there are still not a whole lot of good internet coverage on real Traditional Thai woodworking tools and technique. There are a few printed books on the subject, but they are old and out of print. Many are also just trade secret that past down within family, or among local craftsman communities, such as finishing technique. These are topic which require legs work to visit and talk to these craftsman and guru's around the country. So, how can I prove notability and in this case? I mean, the reason I want to put it on Wikipedia is to share knowledge that otherwise many woodworkers around the world would not have the chance to learn about it from these village craftsmen, or may just die with the ageing craftsmen. &mdash; Oldprame 10:27, 6 March 2013 (Thailand)


 * Firstly, I am impressed at the way you accepted my advice about Nanacoco so willingly. As to woodworking, I fear that if you cannot find good references in English, then the knowledge will have to die with the craftsmen at least as far as Wikipedia is concerned. One suggestion, if you are bi-lingual, start with an article on the topic in the Thai Wikipedia. Having an article there is no guarantee that one here will be accepted but it may help. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Oxygine deletions
Hi, you deleted it. But I sent confirmation email from dm@oxygine.org to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Where I confirmed that I allow use the same text on wiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankinshtein (talk • contribs) 20:39, 6 March 2013 (UTC)


 * My mistake: I should have changed the deletion reason to G11 - unambiguous advertising. And even if it had not been speedily deleted, I doubt whether it would have survived an AfD proposal on the grounds of non-notable software. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Names for soft drinks
Hi Roger, since you're in, I thought I'd ask if you'd be willing to restore Names for soft drinks for me, which was deleted after an expired PROD. I don't know what sort of condition it's in, but in the US at least, I think this is a notable topic that's actually been the topic of scholarly study. At your discretion, it can go in my namespace if it's really in bad shape. I asked the deleting administrator almost two weeks ago, but he or she has been inactive for a while. Thanks, BDD (talk) 23:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Has been restored to WikiProject Food and drink/Names for soft drinks. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Redirect
hi, i have a request to delete University Of Mauritius or should we simply make it a redirect to University of Mauritius. Thanks.Kingroyos (talk) 05:21, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect obviously. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture deletion
Hi. You deleted this article. I'm guessing that this was due to a lack of references. Here are some more: , , and. Is this sufficient to get the article back on? &mdash; MMWe (talk) 12:20, 7 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I would not get too hopeful. But you could try a re-submission via AfC. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:26, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Quesnel Fun Soccer League
Would you zap this one too please? Thanks. -- ukexpat (talk) 03:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Oops someone else took care of it.--ukexpat (talk) 14:22, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

What might be a kindness
Would be to userfy the article you just deleted to User:Joseaugustocale/Coulomb's law (magnetism). The edotor obviously has somethig in mind, though is going about in in an unusual manner. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 15:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello. Please, please restore it to my userspace so that I do not loose the time I spent in it, namely the references which are not trivial. Joseaugustocale (talk) 17:31, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:35, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:38, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you all! Joseaugustocale (talk) 17:54, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Question
I came across User:Engineer raheem. He posted his Resume with name, phone number, and email address. I gave him a customized welcome and deleted the identifying information from his user page. Did I do the right thing? If not, what should I do in these cases in the future? Thanks in advance. --I am One of Many (talk) 23:42, 8 March 2013 (UTC)
 * IMHO it still runs afoul of WP:UP as it does nothing but promote the individual. I have tagged it for G11 speedy deletion.--ukexpat (talk) 03:14, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You were too gentle. It needed a speedy tag and, in notifying the user you should preferably not have given a welcome message. Even if the text is not blatant self-promotion, I take a firm view. For example, clearly has no interest in contributing so he is not entitled to a user page. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Undelete request
Hi. I need to access evidence from User:Viriditas/RfC and User talk:Viriditas/RfC for a current arbcom case (see for example User:Viriditas/Arbcom). You deleted these subpages at my request (as well as per policy) on September 20, 2012. If you don't want to restore them for one day, I would be happy if you just sent me the contents of both pages as an e-mail attachment. Either way would work. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 06:23, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Have them restored for as long as you like. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I'm done. I'll re-tag now. Viriditas (talk) 19:56, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

List of writers for Futurama
Erm, what actually happened to this one? You claim to have deleted it for being a redirect, when it was the actual article itself. Very confusing. -- Dorsal  Axe  11:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The article had been set by to be a redirect to list of Futurama writers. StewieBaby05 had got list of Futurama writers deleted by the mis-use of an AfD tag. So the Legobot proposed list of writers for Futurama for deletion as a redirect to a deleted article. I suggest you ask StewieBaby05 what is going on. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:09, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah I had missed that. Alright, I'll do that. Thanks. -- Dorsal  Axe  19:10, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Creature Creature
Dear Mr. Haworth, You've deleted the |creature creature page. My intention was to created the page so user people could easyly edit it to make it a batter page. This is not my band, but as a musician I wanted to spread the culture. WikipEdia is about culture right ?? I don't have big times for making a big page at the time, I'm new to Wikipedia, and my intention is to make new pages, so I can edit it from times to times and add few stuff each moment I got time to spend (for example : NOW).

Please give me back the work I already spend time with. I request that you the page or email a copy to me. Sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam0509 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * It would have helped if you had provided a proper link to the article in question. "Create the page so people could easily edit it to make it a better page". Yes, that is very much the idea of Wikipedia. But there is a minimum-standard threshold which an article must get over before that process can begin and your article fell well below that threshold. So how do you expect me to email you the text? Read this. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:37, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Huawei MediaPad 10 FHD
Dear Mr. Haworth, You deleted the article, Huawei MediaPad 10 FHD. Please should not be speedy deleted because I want more time to work & develop on it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpchamathdj (talk • contribs) 12:09, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Restored to User:Jpchamathdj/sandbox. Do not move it to mainspace until it actually is an article. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:51, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of VCU Rowdy Rams
Dear Mr. Haworth, I noticed that you deleted the VCU Rowdy Rams article, on the ground that it was an article about a group or club, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. I would like your ideas on how this article can be available on Wikipedia. The Rowdy Rams are an official organization of Virginia Commonwealth University. The reason they are significant is because they were recently voted the number one student section in all of college basketball. Here is the link to one of the many articles stating that the VCU Rowdy Rams won the second annual Naismith Student Section of the Year award, which celebrates the most passionate college basketball fans. http://rvanews.com/news/rowdy-rams-named-student-section-of-the-year/85820

Also, the article was made with similiar characteristics to other College Basketball Supporter groups. Some of these groups include,SDSU Show, Cameron Crazies and the Oakland Zoo (cheering section). I have edited and created numerous articles and believe the VCU Rowdy Rams is a significant supporter group to have it's own wikipedia page. Please talk with me and let me know how I can improve this page so it can be available on wikipedia. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D203 (talk • contribs)


 * You realised that I like new messages at the end. Did you also think that I might like to see the message signed? I don't think any supporter group deserves a separate article. At most they can have a mention in the article about the team they support. But feel free to raise the matter at deletion review. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:17, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

2014 AFC Champions League
Hi, There's a discussion at WT:FOOTY regarding some questionable edits and moves by, but it appears you moved this one (and suppressed the redirect). Any insight? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:52, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The situation has, I hope been properly rectified - please check. I was about to give Mncskyvision97 a severe reprimand when this message popped up. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:54, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Can you move User:Mncskyvision97/2014 AFC Cup back to the original place of 2014 AFC Cup? Thanks. Chanheigeorge (talk) 12:57, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Ooops, somebody has done it already. :-) Chanheigeorge (talk) 12:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Should all be done now. Cheers. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 12:59, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of NKIA
Was updating NKIA when you deleted it. Humbly submit that the revised content at User:Cheolsoo/sandbox/NKIA sufficiently indicates importance. I was going to just recreate the page, but thought I'd get a judgment call from you.Cheolsoo (talk) 16:52, 11 March 2013 (UTC) Thanks for the reply; does "see what others think" mean "go ahead and re-upload it", or is there some more polite form of due process? Please pardon the noobishness. The company has been repeatedly featured (not just mentioned in passing) in multiple articles in several different South Korean newspapers-- I don't see what the problem is. Cheolsoo (talk) 17:14, 11 March 2013 (UTC) I was following Verifiability, which simply says English sources are "preferred" over other languages but doesn't say anywhere that the use of non-English references fails to establish importance. Is the "deletion review" avenue open to me? Thanks, Cheolsoo (talk) 17:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I am very dubious but feel free to see what others think. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:07, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it means go ahead but do not be surprised if I or someone else proposes its deletion. But since this is the English Wikipedia, I suggest you first remove all references that are not to articles in English. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:28, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Deletion review is available and it would provide a certain measure of protection against any further deletion attempts. But there is nothing to prevent you simply re-posting the article. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:08, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

The Organization Workshop
A few days ago you deleted Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Organization Workshop as a copyright violation. OTRS permission has by now been received (the page has been recreated with the OTRS notice). Could you please undelete it? Yours, Huon (talk) 21:50, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Restored. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:56, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Huon (talk) 00:30, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Le Cercle de Bacchus
I am Dixon Wallace McMakin. President of Le Cercle de Bacchus. You deleted our Wikipedia page. What steps do I need to take to get the page back up. Thanks, Dixon Wallace McMakin (Dixonwallacemcmakin (talk) 18:03, 13 March 2013 (UTC))


 * Very easy - you need take no steps whatsoever. Simply have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your Circle is notable and writes about it here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:48, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Wimbledon Chase
Now has two more references added to it.-- Laun  chba  ller  22:04, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think I can make it, to be honest.-- Laun  chba  ller  09:26, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
Hey RHaworth; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:07, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of On-Track
Mr. Haworth, I see that you have deleted the On-Track page from the timesheet comparison list. I tried to keep the format as close as possible to the other entries in order NOT to make a marketing campaign of this. Could you possibly advise how changes can be made to present this as one of the options on the page? Regards, Efaul — Preceding unsigned comment added by Efaul (talk • contribs) 10:27, 14 March 2013 (UTC)


 * No, I had not deleted it from comparison of time tracking software at the time you wrote the above message. Clearly providing evidence of notability is not part of your concept of keeping the format close. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your product is notable and writes about it here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:23, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

List of tea companies
I added some local Australian tea companies to list of tea companies, which are not currently on Wikipedia and you have removed them. They had links to their company sites. Could you please advise why these were deleted? In the comparison history there is a comment: ATTENTION! DO NOT ADD COMPANIES WITHOUT WIKIPEDIA ARTICLES, or LINKS TO EXTERNAL SITES. THEY WILL BE REMOVED. The edit history says - ‎Australia: strip down to blue links.... All the companies I added had links to External Sites, so why have they been changed or removed? Aussiematthew (talk) 13:47, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Curious. See this edit and its edit summary: "redundant phrasing removed per WP:EoS". I don't know whether genuinely thought he was replacing the message with an equivalent wording or whether it was a cynical attempt to conceal an attempt at a policy change. Perhaps you would like to ask him.
 * I am satisfied that Wikipedia policy on list articles like this is "blue internal links only". I will leave you to find a contrary statement in the WP namespace. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:10, 15 March 2013 (UTC)


 * On reflection, I am satisfied that what Jerryobject meant was "do not: a) add companies without Wikipedia articles or b) add links to external sites". Unfortunately his attempt to remove redundancy added ambiguity. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:37, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Should I have listed all the external sites under "External Sites links" at the bottom of the page instead? If this is the case, why weren't they moved instead of being deleted? They are in reference to the category Australia, so one would think it more appropriate to be under that title. Why can't external links be added to a company's page, particularly as the company doesn't have a Wikipedia already? &mdash; Aussiematthew (talk) 04:09, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Terminology: "company doesn't have a Wikipedia already" - how can a company have a Wikipedia? You mean "company doesn't have a Wikipedia article already". Not only can external links be added to a company's page, they must be added or the article is going to be deleted for lack of evidence. But in list of tea companies we are not talking about a company article, we are talking about a list article where the rules are different. But there is a simple solution: write articles about these companies or create tea industry in Australia then you will be able to add blue internal links to the list article. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Terminology - You understood what I was referring to when relating to having Wikipedia already, so I didn't need reference to the terminology I used. I just wanted an answer to the question. I am an internet user trying to assist and help to improve a service! Editing seems just too difficult. I think I will just leave the editing to people such as yourself, as you appear to understand it most! Aussiematthew (talk) 02:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Mydolls
Hi RHaworth, there is a draft article at AfC, Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mydolls, that I would like to move to main article space. It has several meaty news articles cited covering a considerable period, so the subject almost certainly meets WP:GNG. It is not written in an unduly promotional tone.

However, after you speedy deleted a version of the article in 2008, the page was protected from re-creation. Are you able to un-protect it? Sionk (talk) 16:33, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I hope that you intended to fix the horrible section headings before moving it to Mydolls &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:53, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Daniel Bessa
Why was his article deleted? It was deleted last year because he hadn't made his debut for a top tier team yet, so he wasn't eligible to have a page, but he had made his Serie B debut for Vicenza last Saturday, so he should have it up now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DinoAvdic94 (talk • contribs) 18:22, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It was seriously lacking in references but I have restored it to User:DinoAvdic94/sandbox. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

User:Iphone guide
I don't know what to make of User:Iphone guide. There are a couple of spam links hidden in the code, so I think it is purely a spam account.--I am One of Many (talk) 01:10, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Zapped. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Self-control
Hi, You deleted self-control (behavior analysis) without discussion. I want to contest it. I indicated in the talk of that page why that page was justified. Please explain why you disagree. Thanks, florkle (talk) 05:59, 16 March 2013 (UTC)


 * It seemed to duplicate the existing self-control article. But take it to deletion review by all means. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:36, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Photo Pos Pro
Hi Roger, Two weeks ago I submitted an article about Photo Pos Pro, the article deleted with out any explanation. Please let me know what was wrong with the article and what do I have to fix in order to re submit it. Thanks. Yonik100 (talk) 16:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The article was considered to be blatant advertising. To fix it - very easy - you don't need to do anything. Simply have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your product is notable and writes about it here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:55, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Roger, like paint.net and few other free image editors that do listed in wikipedia, Photo Pos Pro to is a freeware, the developers works in another work for living.. the software written to give a free alternative for users that do not wish to pay or not have money to pay for professional editor. Yonik100 (talk) 21:12, 18 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Freeware or not makes no difference at all. The test is notability and it was felt that this product failed the test. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:28, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Recently deleted article - හේගුම්
I think you were very mistaken in deleting this article. It should have been transwiki'd to the Sinhalan Wikipedia as it does not exist there. Pretty much you have deleted a translated article simply because it was posted on the wrong Wikipedia. Did you even read my comment on the talk page?  Brightgalrs  ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 20:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC) One last thing. Can I get the username of the User that created this article? I want to properly attribute it as well as tell them it was transwiki'd.  Brightgalrs  ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 21:03, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I did read your comment. I know the rule book may say different but my policy is to delete foreign language articles to discourage cack-handness. I am always willing to e-mail such articles and I have just done so to you for this one. I don't have transwiki rights so I suggest you just post it to si: . If you want the job done by the book, you will probably get a very sympathetic reception at WP:DRV. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:41, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, that works too. Thanks!  Brightgalrs  ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1] 20:46, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Nevermind I see you have already told me in the e-mail. You can see the final result here: හේගුම්. Thanks for all the help.  Brightgalrs  ( /braɪtˈɡæl.ərˌɛs/ )[1]

Loverin Tamburin
I just noticed that you protected Loverin Tamburin‎ ‎with the following comment: "(indefinite) ‎(repeatedly created A7 − non-notable person, organisation, etc.: spam and copyvio)". When that page was most recently created, I worked on it a bit, and while I did miss that it was a copyvio (my mistake), I was able to confirm that they have charted in Japan. In other words, they clearly pass WP:BAND, particularly criterion 2. (See the Oricon page.) Having worked on a lot of AfD's, I think they would easily survive an AfD. So while the article should have been deleted for copyvio, I don't think it should be indefinitely protected as non-notable. Michitaro (talk) 14:13, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
 * If you are willing to create a decent version, I will happily e-mail you the text as a starting point but read this. Otherwise, I suggest that you tell /  to create a new version which is not a copyvio and which makes some attempt to conform to Wikipedia formatting standards. They should then either submit it via AfC or place it in a user page of their new account and raise the matter at DRV. In either case, if the text is accepted, unprotection will be non-controversial. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:22, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Michu (footballer)
Hi again, I had a notification about Michu (footballer) being speedily deleted as a cross-namespace redirect. I didn't recall making it. If I did, I would've redirected to Michu (I've restored it with that target). I just wanted to check if I had actually created a cross-namespace redirect or if some error retargeted it thus. Thanks, BDD (talk) 15:09, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Deleted pages restored. I suggest you give a stern reprimand. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:55, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Plato deleted
Re: Philosophy Learning and Teaching Organization (PLATO). Dear Mr Halsworth, the page on the PLATO organization I created was speedily deleted under criteria A7. I've gathered a number citations of the organization from the web that I think establish it's importance with respect to A7. The organization and its conference is discussed and reviewed in these blogs and websites:
 * discussion of the organization on edweek.org's blog
 * unaffiliated university blog's discussion and review of the organization
 * mentioned in Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy's entry on Philosophy for children
 * blog on conference
 * Another post about the conference
 * mentioned in published article on philosophy with children p 73

Would citing these pages or providing links to them in the article establish the importance of the organization? If not, what does the organization need to establish it's importance? Thanks for you input. -- Balawen1 (talk) 18:05, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * You were asking for trouble launching a page devoid of independent references. I would prefer to see more refs in more widely read sources such as newspapers. But feel free to try again. We do not like "&hellip; (&hellip;)" titles. The article must be at Philosophy Learning and Teaching Organization with a link to it from Plato (disambiguation).

You Deleted My Company's Wikipedia Page
Hello RHaworth, I am writing to get an explanation as to why you deleted our company's Wikipedia page. Our company is called INgrooves and it's a division of the parent company, Isolation Network, Inc. Our intention is certainly not to partake in any unambiguous advertising or promotion. Can you please let me know how we can get our page restored? You can find reference to INgrooves via the Fontana Distribution Wikipedia page.

Thank you very much for your time! &mdash; MaryannINgrooves (talk) 18:37, 19 March 2013 (UTC)MaryannINgrooves — Preceding unsigned comment added by MaryannINgrooves (talk • contribs) 18:32, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * It would be better if you to wait until someone with no COI thinks your company is notable. But you can try deletion review. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

deleted my sandbox
You deleted my sandbox for no reason. There was one but it made no sence. It has been fixed now but if you continue to vandalise Wikipedia, this can lead to a block. &mdash; user HH (talk) 11:33, 20 March 2013 (UTC) You have delated my sandbox again user HH (talk) 23:39, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for warning me about a possible block for vandalism. I shall bear that in mind. If you create a page with a speedy deletion tag in place, you must expect the page to get deleted. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:03, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, because you added it to CAT:CSD. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:48, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) I didn't add it
 * 2) You redeleted it without checking the talk page
 * 3) It counts as vandalism user HH (talk) 00:06, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Boston College
Hmm, it seems like there are about a dozen or so accounts rapidly creating articles about students at Boston College. I wonder if it's some sort of class assignment? Do you know any action that could be taken? I've tried notifying a few of them to please put me in touch with their instructor. I ask you only because I saw you deleting a bunch of the articles. Mkdw talk 23:55, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Some links would help! Definitely try and contact their instructor. Keep tagging for deletion/reverting if you think their edits inappropriate. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 01:53, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You could have pointed me h ere . &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Vishal Oberoi
Hello RHaworth, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Vishal Oberoi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The reason given is not a valid speedy deletion criterion. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Armbrust The Homunculus 11:18, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Zeeis
Dear Mr. RHaworth,

My new article has been deleted, I was wrote my first article Vimicro on 2009. Until now, there only have few articles on Wikipedia about notable Chinese organizations, therefore a few years later, I want to continue to write and update some articles on this topic again.

Even I had read Wikipedia articles for many years and registered for few years, but I do not have much courage to write the content due to my lack of wring experience on Wikipedia, so I just tried to write a article yesterday. It has been deleted, my first article Vimicro has been tagged to be deleted by it still there, I think this article "Zeeis" is better than my first article but it still has been gone. So I'm confused, how to can I contribute my content to Wikipedia for next articles?

Before I start to write this article for I've read many articles like this and these articles have been alive, I think my article is better than these articles.

For examples such as NxTier, Doghouse_systems, InnoPath_Software. I saw ApexSQL_Software has been removed the delete tag, this article without any 2nd sources or verified by any 3rd-party but it still alive.

I'm an IT industry researcher in China to study companies and analyze markets, and want to share my information on Wikipedia to write many articles about companies, products and markets. But for my two articles suffered I can't see the hope for my way on Wikipedia,

Thank you for your time to read this long comment, I wrote this because i hope:

1) fair operation for the different regions of the world, there are a lot of articles about organizations in the Americas and Europe, I think there should be more opportunities to developing countries information on this free encyclopedia that will make the information more balanced, diversified and more benefits for all Wikipedia users.

2) Although, I've read many articles before I write this, I just think my article is not worse than others. But now I think I still have some problems need to be improved, so I as your advice about continue to write such articles or improve this article. Thanks in advance!!!

Blueskywater (talk) 18:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


 * OK perhaps it was not too spammy but certainly it was lacking in links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources - its business partners cannot be considered independent. If you can find decent references, I suggest you re-submit via Articles for Creation. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:09, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Self-help
Why did you delete the Self Help, Inc. page I created. I did not use copyrighted material. The LinkedIn page cited by the BOT doesn't exist. It came directly from our Facebook page that I created. I work for Self Help, and have permission to create said page. You know nothing about the agency or the people we help. Please repost the page ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tag469 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Who said anything about copyvio? What does the deletion log entry give as the deletion reason? But in fact copying your Facebook page is not only a copyvio it is also slovenliness - read this. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your organisation is notable and writes about it here. And "within it's service area" should not have an apostrophe. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:16, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Adam Gaynor (Creationville)
Page you deleted yesterday is now back on as Adam Gaynor

John of Cromer in Philippines (talk) mytime= Sat 07:29, wikitime= 23:30, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

F2 exemptions
Please take note. CSD:

This also includes image description pages for Commons images, except pages containing categories or information not relevant to any other project (like .

Thank you. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 14:22, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * So are you going to tell me what I have done to deserve this message? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:35, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Special:Undelete/File:Green Park Stadium Kanpur.jpg. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 18:26, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Hambantota International Airport
Hi, I note that you recently moved Hambantota International Airport to Mattala Rajapaksa International Airport but you didn't move the relevant talk page. Is there any way you can merge Talk:Hambantota International Airport into Talk:Mattala Rajapaksa International Airport so as to retain the edit history and content of both talk pages?-- obi2canibe talk contr 16:18, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Merged. There was a clear date break. Edits of 2013-03-10 and earlier were at Talk:Hambantota International Airport. I leave you to decide if anything from there needs copy&pasting to the top. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:03, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of E107 (software)
Dear Mr Haworth,

Unfortunately we discovered today that the page E107 (software) was marked for rapid deletion. And it was quick indeed, because despite the User talk page comments I and others added today, the Wikipedia page for E107 (software) was gone this afternoon (GMT+1) on 23-March-2013.

I don't believe in conspiracies so often, but this might be one. Let me explain myself further. The original page E107 (software) was already deleted once in 2009. At that time having the page deleted was not such a big deal. The page was already written badly and a lot of references were lacking. We (the community of e107 Content Management System) decided to create a new page from scratch under a new name E107 (CMS) We found that a more appropriate name. However I think that the latest modifications on the page reverted a lot of the content back to a state almost similar to the situation at the early stages of that newly created page. On top of it the name of the page was reverted from E107 (CMS) to E107 (software). Due to the rename action, suddenly the Talk page contained all the old arguments to delete the former page. And admittedly the current content of the page would have supported that decision. However, if you look back at older revisions (e.g. changes to the page under my account) you will see the actual text was modified a lot compared to the old page at E107 (CMS).

Also, we are a vivid Content Management System listed in e.g. this list. We would like to have visitors of Wikipedia have the opportunity to have a fair comparison, hence we would like to inform visitors what our CMS has to offer, just as all the other PHP CMS systems from that list. If we need to improve our content based on Wikipedia policies, we will be more than happy to change the content accordingly. But than we would like to have a fair time frame in order to get our act together and implement improvements.

Therefore I would like to ask you to undo the deletion of page E107 (software), and I will be very appreciative if you could specify some pointers to improve the content of our E107 (software) page. The vast part of the community consisting out of 124059 registered members will be thankful as well.

Best regards, Henk Jongedijk / nlstart, Dev Team Member, on behalf of the e107 CMS community. -- Nlstart (talk) 21:23, 23 March 2013 (UTC)


 * As you can see above, my normal response to someone with a declared COI such as you and especially one who cannot even manage to link to the article he is talking about is to say: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your product is notable. I must be feeling soft today, I have restored the article. The (CMS) / (software) discussion is a red herring. I prefer the (software) version. If the article is retained, you may of course create a redirect at e107 (CMS). &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:51, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of TruthOrFiction.org
You deleted TruthOrFiction.org just minutes after I contested its nomination for Speedy Deletion. Please send me the article source.

This article should not have been speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because, for nearly a decade and a half, it was one of the leading "truth-checking" sites in the Internet, like Snopes.com, UrbanLegends.About.com, HoaxInfo.com (now defunct), BreakTheChain.org (lasted 13 years, but now defunct, though the web site still exists), and hoaxbusters.ciac.org (also lasted 13 years, but now defunct).

Of all those hoax-checking sites, only three remain: TruthOrFiction.com, UrbanLegends.About.com and Snopes.com. UrbanLegends.About.com has only a modest database of urban legends, but Snopes and TruthOrFiction both have huge databases of chain-emails, hoaxes, eRumors, etc., debunked or verified, and both are widely referenced and highly notable. They are very often referenced together; indeed, google-searching for both domain names together yields over 1,000,000 hits. But only Snopes had a Wikipedia page, until today, when I created one for TruthOrFiction -- except that, a mere couple of hours later, you deleted it. NCdave (talk) 00:06, 24 March 2013 (UTC) Do you like it better now? NCdave (talk) 11:39, 25 March 2013 (UTC) Thanks. NCdave (talk) 21:36, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
 * You thoroughly deserved to have it deleted because you had made no attempt to provide independent evidence of notability. I am in a generous mood tonight - I have restored it to User:NCdave/sandbox. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 00:46, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it will probably now be acceptable. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Exsite Webware (software)
Can you explain why you speedy-deleted this 2-yr old page? It was quite useful for developers looking to understand the origins of this useful package. Your explanation didn't make much sense, so we out here in radio-land would sure appreciate knowing what you were thinking when you did this. If you can't "undelete" it, could you at least point us to the text of the most recent version so we'd have a decent chance of recreating it? I was just involved in trying to get the developers to upload their logo (which I can't do because I'm not the owner of the logo). There's quite a lot of work there that you flushed down the toilet and, if nothing else, I'd like to get it back. Santamoly (talk) 04:13, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

PS: Is it you (RHaworth) who deleted this page, or someone else (a "Captain Conundrum")? The message on my talk page was signed by "Captain Conundrum", but the deletion info on the Exsite Webware page was signed by you (RHaworth). I'm also puzzled by the "copyrighted text or images obtained from other web sites" label. I wrote some of the original contributions, and none of it was copied. Now that you've deleted the page, I can't verify or dispute what you're saying since others may have added to the article in the 2 years that it has been in place. Or perhaps Exsite Webware lifted the WP article for their own page. Please restore the article ASAP. It doesn't deserve Speedy Deletion especially since it was in place for several years, and it's original content. Then we (editors) can figure out what was going on. The last I saw of it, it was a good article.Santamoly (talk) 05:56, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I don't call two years "several". You definitely are a Wikipedia dilettante - the story is perfectly simple and easy to understand: proposed deletion by applying a db-copyvio tag and notified you. I then deleted it as the deletion log states. The story of the alleged copy source being actually copied from Wikipedia is quite possible but I am not willing to restore since the article was also deletable on the grounds of lack of evidence of notability. I am happy to let you see the text - read this. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not too thrilled that you choose to start this conversation by hurling insults. That's so clearly against WP principles that I'm astonished that you have any kind of administrative capacity. I've done nothing to deserve this kind of abuse, which you seem to enjoy dishing out, even to the point of calling yourself "bolshie" (which doesn't appear to be very WP-ish). But, back to the topic at hand: I have opened an email address, and look forward to viewing the article. If you would be so kind as to point out what you think is copy-vio, please do so. The article concerns a computer operating system, so you also must be careful saying that it's not notable if you're naught but a bolshie artist, for example. The article has been through this kind of mindless bolshie AFD-copy-vio/lack-of-notability activity before, so I'd like to see if we're witnessing a repeat of previous episodes in which no problem was found after AFD, when in fact nobody had actually looked at the article. Regardless of your radical instincts, could you please overcome your revolutionary urges and email the article to me so I can start dealing with your bolshie concerns ASAP. With all due respect, of course. Santamoly (talk) 06:00, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, you feel insulted but there is no need to go on at such length. I still cannot see the e-mail link. Did you tick "enable email from other users"? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Block request: User:Tbhotch
Hi, sorry for interrupt, can you delete User:Tbhotch, because the user is actually from Mexico. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordofpyrus (talk • contribs) 08:11, 25 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I've blocked Lordofpyrus for trolling.  Acroterion   (talk)   08:19, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Swish
Deletion of Swish wiki page even though it follows guidelines with credible sources.. Huff Post, LA Weekly, etc. Why are you trolling Wikipedia deleting articles being created with notable sources? Swish is an artist with notable sources, history, and music. Undo the deletion of the page please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amazingcaptain20 (talk • contribs) 01:15, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Just for once, I have simply restored. You were very misguided to develop the article in mainspace instead of using a user page. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)