User talk:RHaworth/2013 Oct 11

 wikify! Slovenly is a word I find myself using quite a bit at the moment. Slovenly is what I think of anybody who leaves a message here about an article and fails to provide a wikilink to the article. How do you expect me to read the article if you don't link to it? Even if the article has been deleted, you should still link to it. I reserve the right to ignore any message which does not provide links where appropriate, has no heading, is in the wrong place on this page or has not been signed with ~. And if that sounds like a grumpy old man, it's because I am ...

The Knowledge Centre for Agriculture Deletion
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Copyright issues
What are you saying? I suppose I wasted my time linking all the phrases in the text to other wiki articles for readers references. How is original research presented by wiki? An example would be helpful, thanks Fiscal Justice (talk) 07:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am sorry to say that you have wasted your time. Original research only appears in Wikipedia when the results of the research are accepted, duplicated and, above all, given practical application and become notable. For example, I note that VAT was first proposed in 1918 by Wilhelm von Siemens but his proposal probably did not make it to encyclopaedias because it was original research. If you insist on trying to force your paper into Wikipedia, your next actions would be: 1) make sure that each appearance of your paper on the web carries a clear declaration that the text is released under a CC-by-sa-3.0 license and 2) raise the matter at deletion review. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:14, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

RHaworth, the more I learn the more respect I have for wiki rules. I appreciate your commitment and thanks for the tip. Fiscal Justice (talk) 09:08, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

CryEngine (4th Generation)
The redirect already exists. A page with this title has previously been deleted. Its me who requested for the creation of this redirect again. The actual redirect page has already been created. This is not the actual redirect page. So please delete it.Editoredi (talk) 18:17, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * You message is just about incomprehensible. Please a) provide a link to the redirect which already exists and b) explain why it is apparently not permitted to create multiple redirects to the same page or section. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Mohammad Hanif Ibrahim
Dear I have created page with name Mohammad Hanif Ibrahim. As i created some wiki editor put speedy deletion note there. I had also put a note on that talk page to give me time to enter citation and page link. but you deleted that page and i found the deletion log entry. Subject person has wrote many books, booklets and column. I will put proper citation, references and link pages. Please let me create that page again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by امین اکبر (talk • contribs) 18:21, 19 September 2013 (UTC) Dear R Hawarth, thank you so much for your response, I will not put arabic text next time. Please also guide me that Arabic or Urdu text in roman script is allow? --امین اکبر (talk) 09:34, 20 September 2013 (UTC) Thank you soooooo much Dear R Hawarth, really Idris Azad is very informative, i learn this alot about format of article other then English person. Next time i will follow exact formatting about person other then English. Hope you will not need again to delete or edit my contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by امین اکبر (talk • contribs) 14:24, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * So am I stopping you re-creating the page? But if you do, take my advice and remove all Arabic text from the page and provide more than one link to sources in English. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:04, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Idris Azad is probably a good example of how Arabic/Urdu script is allowed in this wiki. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Bwile
Dear R Hawarth, As you bear no resemblance to my professional psychiatric colleague from Scotland, Alan Haworth MD, I will avoid the rant. The deleted article on the Bwile is accurately the same on my blogspot Chiengecom. The decision to post it in my creation Sandbox came after our Cultural and research Committee of the Bwile Royal Establishment discovered that there is hardly a full page on our Bwile Tribe on Wikipedia. We had posted the "so-called" Zambia border dispute referred to as the Lunchinda enclave. It has enriched our collective understanding of this issue and the district of Chiengi in particular. Our desire was to use my blog where we first test run issues, and move it to a wider audience so that it becomes public property and be subject to serious criticism if gaps on data or misrepresentation are evident. If it requires me to remove it from my blog in order to be on the Wikipedia, please advise. You may notice that the IP address is the same.We have worked hard to reach that far in the face of majority ethnic narratives of small groups like ours. We dread extinction! There may be out there many Arab and Portuguese documents that can help us enrich our historical narrative.Spare your "panga" hungman, you mean well. Please advize if you can spare time. Kaka Msimango (Katele Kalumba PhD) — Preceding unsigned comment added by KAKA MSIMANGO (talk • contribs) 00:37, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I call your submission an insult to Wikipedia: you do not seem to have actually looked at any Wikipedia articles; you simply copy&paste your blog complete with shouting on to a ponderous title and making absolutely no attempt to turn it into a Wikipedia article. It thoroughly deserved to be deleted. If you wish to contribute, firstly since some of us are allergic to shouting even in user names, create a new account, say then start to expand the Bwile people article. Take care to write in encyclopedic style and, above all, provide proper references for all information that you add. If you are going to quote from your blog, then add a CC-by-sa-3.0 licence to your blog page. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Redirects
Thank you so much sir for deleting the Implausible Redirects :) Raghusri (talk) 16:11, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Sir,

Please delete these Redirects too : Businessman (film), Talk:Businessman (film) Have a nice day sir :) Raghusri (talk) 16:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * They had just been deleted by as implausible redirects however as far as I am concerned '2012' is an unnecessary disambiguator, so I have moved the article back to Businessman (film).-- Laun chba ller  17:09, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Duprat
Hi RHaworth, Please, take a look to and help us to discover the truth!. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 20:35, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please learn interwiki links. See this note to the uploader. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:05, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
 * OK. --Best regards, Keysanger (what?) 09:50, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Cowboys Stadium
Hello. I reverted your recent page move of to. My understanding is that the policy is that someone can revert an undiscussed page move if they object to the change. The longstanding article name has been. There was an undiscussed page move on 25 July, and someone who objected to the change reverted that move on 16 September. Once an undiscussed move is reverted, the proper procedure for someone who prefers a different name is to register a formal move request and have the matter discussed on the Talk page. That happened on 17 September. That discussion has not yet been closed. Further moves should wait (i.e. the article should stay at the reverted prior stable name of ) until the discussion of the move request is officially closed. So, in my opinion, you should not have moved that article until the move request discussion had closed. —BarrelProof (talk) 00:42, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I shall not touch the article again. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding and thank your for your restraint. Probably the discussion will close very soon. —BarrelProof (talk) 05:15, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Block
Can you please block User talk:67.248.80.50 as you appear to be online? AIV is presently clogged and they are tenacious. Many thanks. Jamesx12345 17:11, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Linn Park

 * Thread transferred to User talk:Rgtr

File talk:7th ID SSI.svg
Hi. Missed this. Thanks! Reh man  13:19, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Visitors Lifecycle Management
Hello, It seems you deleted my article a few weeks back. I have re written the article and once again posted it. Thank you... MichaelBBC (talk) 12:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I've nominated the article for speedy deletion. It appears to promote a concept whose notability has not been established. I've also asked the article's creator whether WP:COI is an issue. Perhaps this will eventually entail a WP:AfD process, with the possibility of deletion and salting. JNW (talk) 12:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Jordan Moore
I asked about a month ago if you could re-open the page for Jordan Moore and you told me to create the article via AfC. I have now done that and it has been accepted but has had to be created at Jordan Moore (Scottish footballer). Could you please move it to Jordan Moore now. Thanks, Username of a generic kind (talk) 17:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Cowboys Stadium/AT&T Stadium
Not sure if you have been following the Cowboys Stadium/AT&T Stadium movements. After your move, it was moved back by an editor claiming it needed discussed first (which I now see in an above message), then moved to AT&T Stadium by an admin today, then moved by the same initial editor back to Cowboys Stadium today. Each time, an anonymous editor has almost immediately followed the move by editing the AT&T Stadium redirect page to create an edit history so that it needs admin action to be cleared. The "discussion" has been short on actual Wikipedia policies and guidelines and heavy on opinion of the name itself and corporate naming rights. Any help/input you can offer would be much appreciated. Thanks! --JonRidinger (talk) 02:06, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Omega Upsilon
RHaworth, I was performing research on a former sorority at Mount Olive College called Omega Upsilon. There was once an article about this subject on Wikipedia was deleted in July 2012 after being flagged for speedy deletion using code A7. This subject passes the notability test because it was the only sorority ever to have operated at the college. Can you please revert the deletion so that I can improve the article and provide proper sources? Thank you, Cc09091986 (talk) 14:01, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

RHaworth, thank you for your help in restoring the article. I'll keep it in my sandbox until it is has proper references. I was unaware of some of the information contained in the article and appreciate you recovering it. Much appreciative, and kind regards, Cc09091986 (talk) 13:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC).
 * "Only sorority ever to have operated at the college" is not evidence of notability, it is not even an assertion thereof. I have emailed you the latest text but I very much doubt if an article will succeed. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:44, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

The Church and Internet
Hey, I saw that you previously deleted this article. I thought I'd drop in to explain that it's a student project. I've moved a copy to the instructor's userspace and pretty much all but begged him to go through the school WP, as well as explained why editing w/o showing RS (and the difference between a RS and a PS) could end up in deletion even if we kept the article. In any case, I just wanted to drop you a note so you can keep an eye on that as well. I feel sort of bad since it's a student WP project, but I get kind of frustrated when stuff like this happens and all that we have are primary sources at best, meaning that the page will inevitably end up deleted anyway. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   17:04, 24 September 2013 (UTC) I had someone complain about the articles that the instructor and/or his students have been creating in the mainspace. I've moved them all to his userspace, but I think that we need someone from the college WP or at least someone other than me try to appeal to him about the articles. The problem is that they're unsourced and not very neutral in tone. I'm starting to get a little irritated with him since I've tried very hard to explain guidelines to him and he's been pretty much ignoring them. I've tried to explain that being a student project doesn't mean that your articles will be left alone- another of their articles, The Rapid Development, is currently up for deletion right now as a result. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:20, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Noted. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:44, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

My basic issue is that the articles aren't reading like neutral, encyclopedic articles in general and the sourcing is pretty much non-existent. Even if the article for Rapid Development makes it through AfD, there will still be ongoing issues with how it's written that will likely only get worse the longer the semester goes on. I don't see where he's really trying to teach the students about editing Wikipedia properly or where he's actually making an effort to learn these guidelines himself. I don't want to scare him off, but I do want to stress to him that ignoring the basic guidelines can lead to articles reading poorly and/or getting deleted. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)   10:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please explain what you mean by "college WP". Why are you telling me this? I agree with you: it is sad to see student projects where the instructor clearly has no idea about Wikipedia. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

SPI for User Getnetabebe
Hi, I've created Sockpuppet investigations/Getnetabebe, since I'm pretty certain that and  are one and the same, but I'm really at a loss as to how to state the case. You have dealt with this user in the past, so could you assist please? -- Red rose64 (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The sockpuppetry was so obvious, you did not need to go any great length for evidence. Seeing Getuabebe upload File:Getnetabebe.jpg clinched it for me. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:44, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
 * -- Red rose64 (talk) 20:37, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you kindly
Hi Roger. I just stopped by to thank you kindly for the removal of this cat. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your support. It means a lot to me that your're here making things better and supporting the project. It is because of good people like your that Wikipedia has become the success that it is today. Thank you very much. 64.40.54.151 (talk) 05:47, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Phata Poster Nikhla Hero
File:Phata Poster Nikhla Hero Theatrical Poster (2013).jpg. May I know the reason for the delete? I think instead of deleting the orphaned non-free revisions, you deleted the image itself. If thats not the case then I'd like to know what was it, since the image had a fair use and license tag, was used in an article.  Sohambanerjee1998  13:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)


 * It was a mistake. isd nominations are usually correct so I never check them and in this case I had already deleted Phata Poster Nikla Hero 2nd Day Box Office Collection so I knew there was rubbish about needing to be deleted. Blame the IP address who did this edit ! &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind. Yes the article was the aim of some bad IP's, worked hard to discourage them. Actually to be true I was quite befuddled to see it was gone as it had everything in place. Thanks for restoring it.  Sohambanerjee1998  13:43, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Forgot to say that should not the IP be warned for doing this?  Sohambanerjee1998  13:46, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * So warn them - their other edits seem confused to say the least. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:04, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Visitors and residents
Two years ago you PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:29, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Brandenburg
Why have you deleted our article about the Berlin Brandenburg Center for Regenerative Therapies? We have the copyright on the file you mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flowmarc (talk • contribs) 12:54, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read this and then kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your Zentrum is notable and writes about it here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:35, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Convert to use Infobox settlement
Hi, I don't believe that Convert to use Infobox settlement was a copy of a previously deleted template, Please would you check, and undelete it? Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:03, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Restored to User:Pigsonthewing/convert. I suggest you talk to before moving it back to template: space. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:14, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

I've tried, but got no response - he hasn't posted since 27 Sept. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:31, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, so move it back. But make use of it or I might zap it. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:21, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have replied now. I just got back on. --User666777 (talk) 05:39, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Its the same as a template that was deleted back in February 2012. Which is what I said when I nominated it. --User666777 (talk) 05:43, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It has the same name. I don't believe that it has the same content. Note that I !voted delete for the original. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It was already used, when you deleted it. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 21:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It does the same thing as the old one and it was only used once. ---User666777 (talk) 03:01, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

My Silent Wake
Very simply, why did you delete their perfectly legitimate page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.162.131 (talk) 20:02, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read this then log in and tell me what reason is given in the deletion log entry and which part of it you do not understand. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:19, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Request For An Article Protection
Dear Sir My Name Is S.Kishore Kumar Please Protect My Article Name Given Below

Ulagathirkku Thalaivan Yaar. Thankyou Sir — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.60.217.25 (talk) 09:22, 29 September 2013 (UTC)


 * The correct place to go for this is Requests for page protection. In this case, protection is likely to be denied, because you are simply trying to remove a notice that your article is being considered for speedy deletion as blatant advertising. Furthermore, if you continue to remove this deletion notice, you may be blocked from Wikipedia to prevent edit warring. Ritchie333 (talk)  (cont)   16:22, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Lots of PR and management pages today
Hi RHaworth, can you have a look at Special:Contributions/Rima_Kudukar also and see if any CSD criteria applies to any of these. Three or more different users have been creating articles related to media, PR etc at high speed today. Few of those you have already deleted. So far I have identified these users, sock of,  and. Can a SPI report be filed for them ? They all are working on similar topics and with a very similar style. Although it may be also possible that these are some university students, working on some assignment. --Vigyani talkਯੋਗਦਾਨ 11:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Almost certainly a student project rather than socks. Rima Kudukar has received appropriate speedy treatment. I suggest you tell all of them to announce themselves at WP:SUP and tag each article in mainspace on its merits. Add user space drafts to your watchlist and ask me to delete them as stale drafts in six months time. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:48, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * WIth the speed of creation they appear likely to be copyvios, but I can't see where from. They smell like a student body grabbing copyright information to gain class credit. Each supposed student seems to create several within a very few moments of each other. Fiddle   Faddle  11:52, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * More likely their tutor has said blithely "these are a good set of essays that you have been creating during the course - why don't you put them on Wikipedia?". &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:04, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hillsong Young and Free
Hello, I went to find information on the new album by Hillsong Young and Free and have found that the page was deleted for non-notability. I did not create this page, however I just thought you might want to know that stating that this band is non-notable is not accurate at all. While it is a new group that is debuting today from Hillsong Church, it must be noted that Hillsong Church is probably one of the most influential churches on planet Earth. Just go to their main Wikipedia page to verify. Yes, the band may be new, but to say it is not notable is nonsense.

So I am just saying you should probably just un-delete it. If not, I'm sure it will be recreated over and over literally by thousands of users - mostly because it truly should exist. Thanks Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.193.165.56 (talk) 19:45, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * What are you talking about? There has never been any article called Hillsong Young and Free nor Hillsong Young And Free. Presumably you are writing to me because I deleted something. If so, please go back to the page which told you that I had done the deletion and carefully copy&paste the title of the article. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:01, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

YYCIX Internet Exchange Community Ltd
Hi, My page was deleted for having no significant information available.

First, I fail to see how it is any less significant than the Seattle Internet Exchange wiki page.

Second, there are several other reasons it significant that I could have documented and cited and will do so:
 * 1) It is the first internet exchange site in all of Alberta, Canada.
 * 2) It is the only exchange which has a partnership with the City of Calgary and their fiber network (which can carry many buildings in Calgary to the exchange)
 * 3) It is rapidly growing, already from 3Mbps to 40Mbps avg with 9 members now.

In other words, it is not merely an organization that is being documented, rather, it is an item of significant public interest, much like the Seattle Internet Exchange. &mdash; Foamyslippers (talk) 04:50, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * YYCIX Internet Exchange Community Ltd. - Sam Sailor Sing 08:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I did hesitate momentarily over the deletion. Your list above and the article omit what is to me the most important reason for the exchange's existence: it helps prevent within-Canada traffic having to go via the USA. You are going to find it difficult to get an article accepted: IXPs are like sewage works or electricity sub-stations - they are vital to our lives but we never notice their existence. Restored to User:Foamyslippers/sandbox. Expand it, add better references and resubmit via AfC. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)LL

Is there any good reason to delete items like "Location" and "Officers" from this entry and not other entries, like the Seattle Internet Exchange where this was modeled from? Foamyslippers (talk) 15:38, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * So, it looks like you nominated the Seattle Internet Exchange for deletion and removed the Location and Officers sections. Ok, what about London Network Access Point ? What about London Internet Exchange ? Should we start deleting all of these articles? There are plenty of them. Foamyslippers (talk) 21:20, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Does this need to go through AFC? The backlog is huge. The topic of NSA spying is timely, and if the article is improved, would you move it back in place? Foamyslippers (talk) 16:17, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Location - Wikipedia is not a directory. Officers - unless any of the people have Wikipedia articles this info. is just unencyclopedic flack. But they are not in the Seattle article. Why the hurry? Best to put it through AfC. For me to move it straight back would imply my endorsement of the subject as notable. What is stopping you moving it? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:37, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't want it to just get deleted again. Anyways the basic point here is to increase the recognition of this IX. It lets people in the community know what is available, and why. Foamyslippers (talk) 21:18, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

User pages
'Morning Roger. I had welcomed User:Anil dawadi and saw your action there. Could I have your opinion on User:Dr.Rohit choudhary raj cf. WP:UPNOT, and what is the best way to handle such a case when I stumble upon it, dialogue or a speedy tag? In the same vein: what's your take on user pages that contains little more than an external link created by a user with no other contributions, e.g. User:DorisCrowley (I doubt that's her website), User talk:Korrectpeople (FB link), and User:Podtheguard with a link to his Youtube contributions. I tagged the last one with G11, but it was declined. Cheers, Sam Sailor Sing 08:08, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

One more: User:Faïçal Hajji. Best, Sam Sailor Sing 09:01, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have hit Rohit's user page very firmly and defaced Facial's page. The other three are now in my watchlist but unless they start updating them regularly, I shall just leave them. Best way to handle? Blank the user page rather than bothering with speedy and leave a message on their user talk page. If they persist in editing, ask me or any other admin to protect the user page or block the account. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:00, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Interesting to see how you handled that. Firm hand at work. The bliss of my ignorance stands in the way of understanding how links - as the Youtube link on or the Facebook link on  with their descriptions that have nothing to do with Wiki as a project - links, that would normally be ELNO in BLPs, are ok on userpages. But I accept the many miles you and  have under your keels when you say it's not a problem. I still think it's not acceptable. Especially when they as editors are NOTHERE. Best, Sam Sailor  Sing 07:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Here's another one for you or or any other seasoned editor stalking: . The userboxes and paraphernalia obviously are pasted from somewhere else (puffery). Real person with website at http://www.coffeytalk.com/. Long promo rant about herself. But hang on: I very much doubt it is Ms Coffey herself on this account, as the EL at the very end is to an Indian commercial site, http://www.dietkart.com/. For which Lissa Coffey seems to have written no articles as claimed on the UP. Is all this for generating trafic? For getting higher ranking on Google searches? Your opinion? Best, Sam Sailor  Sing 11:40, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * talk page stalker User:Robertpattinsons (whose user page she had evidently copied) claims on his userpage that she is his wife. Who knows. (I have just reported Robertpattinsons to AIV for adding spam links to dietcart.com to his user page, after receiving a final warning.) --bonadea contributions talk 09:07, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Dr. David Perlmutter
Hi RHaworth, I am new to Wikipedia and was curious as to why my article Dr. David Perlmutter was deleted? I tried to look this up, but I could not find anything of relevance (R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Andrew — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aluer11 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
 * For goodness sake! On the page where you saw that I deleted it and the R2 reason is given, what does the next line say? Or have you looked at your contributions history? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:06, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

All star
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/list of films with all star cast. Just to say sorry for the strange message about "your AFC submission" and the Teahouse invitation. I had a bad feeling when I looked at the script output; I seemed to remember you were a sysop. What happened was that the script got confused&mdash;it thought you created the page because you moved it. I'm going to notify the real creater now! Sorry, Rain City 471  19:07, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Cheeky deletion
Please can you tell me why File:The Cheeke Sisters by Van Dyck.jpg was deleted so speedily? I have consent and I have been given the proper authority to use this image by the owner? This is an important addition to the page of Sir Anthony van Dyck. Kerkyra22 (talk) 06:36, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I hesitated for a moment then I saw, laughed and zapped it. Please have a look at the description of the image on the right or of any of the numerous paintings in Commons:category:paintings by Anthony van Dyck. Then upload the image to the Commons with sensible licence details. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:37, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

October 2013
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Motivation
Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Thr Motivational Speaker owes Child Support. Hi RHaworth, my drunk step dad created this attack page against my actual dad. I was just interested in seeing the text that was in the page before it was deleted. If you could give that to me it would be great. Thank you. 69.47.213.59 (talk) 11:35, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Little more than was in the title: == Deadbeat Prophet == The Motivator has never paid one penny in Child Support
 * &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:01, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Patricia Gucci
I have today received notification regarding copyright infringement for the entry submitted for approval. Are you able to send me a link showing the original content submitted? The original entry was deemed to be too similar to Patricia Gucci's biography page on her website. A new entry will be submitted using different language, although please note that the information contained on Patricia Gucci's biography page contains certain facts that can only be stated explicitly. Thank you for your consideration. Gregoryjlee (talk) 14:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Text emailed to you. Even if it was not a copyvio, it needed cleanup to get rid of peacock language. Whaddya mean "can only be stated explicitly"? Most people would allow that "born in 1905 to Aida and Guccio Gucci" was not a copyvio but even that could be re-worded if some hyperpedant objected. Please read what we think of editors with a COI. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:37, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

BRM P83
Was just looking for clarification as to why Articles_for_creation/BRM_P83 has been moved to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/BRM P83. Clearly there's a protocol about how this process works that I'm not familiar with, so I'd be grateful if you could enlighten me... Spiderlounge (talk) 16:19, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia_talk: is the preferred namespace - that is where the article wizard puts them. The idea is to allow IP addresses to create new articles. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, many thanks for clearing that up :-) Spiderlounge (talk) 18:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Bedtime Math
Hi. It looks like you deleted this article on Oct. 3. I haven't seen the (now deleted) article, but I would argue that the Bedtime Math Foundation is clearly notable. For example, here is an article about it in USA Today. Here is a list of major media coverage from their website (some of those articles only mention Bedtime Math for a paragraph or two, but in several cases, Bedtime Math is the primary subject of the article). &mdash; Crust (talk) 17:57, 5 October 2013 (UTC) Thanks. I wonder if it would makes sense to restore the article to Bedtime Math straightaway. You could then initiate the standard AfD process. In its current location, it's hard for people to find it and weigh in. &mdash; Crust (talk) 20:27, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You may be right. Restored to User:Ujjwal234goel/sandbox. Obviously we need a few more independent refs before it is re-launched. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Strange response. I was expecting that you and would be keen to raise it to article status. Userfying implied that I considered it might be article-worthy. Feel free to move it yourself. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

The Sword of Moses (novel)
Hi! You have deleted The Sword of Moses for copyright infringement. I am writing on behalf of the publisher, Corax, and we own the copyright. The site at hundredzeroes is merely advance publicity for the book, and the content is the same as on Amazon Kindle and Barnes and Noble nook, which is merely the summary of the advance free chapters of the book. So there is no intended (or actual) copyright infringement. It all belongs to us, and we are happy for it to be contained in Wikipedia. I hope this helps. All best wishes, Berengaria (talk) 19:58, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * If and when the book has a) actually been published and b) received critical approval then someone with no COI will write about it here. Until then no input from the publisher is required. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:46, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

User talk space delete
Thanks for getting to that, I don't want to waste space so where I can I try to mark CSD, especially when I move a page to mainspace. I'm pretty familiar with the policies and such and hopefully will submit for admin when my edits are higher. Would you mind looking through some of my contributions and letting me know if there's anything I can improve upon? I'm a good mediator and can look at things fairly. I also enjoy reading policies and learning anywhere I can. You'll see I mostly patrol new pages, recent changes, and reviewing. If not I certainly understand the admins have plenty to do besides this. Thanks! <font color="#215E21">cliffsteinman --  Discuss  22:20, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


 * You are probably good admin material: you do not seem to have offended any serious editors; you argue calmly; etc. But please read this advice and especially "candidates with fewer than 2,000 edits &hellip; often see their RfAs closed &hellip; shortly after adding them". Feel free to come back when you have a longer contributions history. Please: go to your preferences, tick "prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" and obey the warning whenever you see it even on user talk pages. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Lake Pharma
Dear RHaworth: Re Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/LakePharma: this G13 candidate on the surface seems to be one to be rescued, but two experts from Wikiproject Medicine have agreed that it should go. The G13 nomination doesn't allow for a comment, so can you just delete it? Thanks. &mdash;Anne Delong (talk) 04:10, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It would have been possible for you to use to get rid of it. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

How do I get my deleted article?
So now I have a &*&(&(*& clue. How can I get my deleted article, Intergeneration Month so I can edit it and follow the format of National Pig Day and Aura's House and Black History Month? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgobos (talk • contribs) 22:32, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Standard, parrot-fashion advice: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your month is notable and writes about it here. If you really want to force an article in, I suggest you find a sponsor. &lt;end-parrot> Text emailed. You claim to have modelled your article on Black History Month but the most depressing thing about yours was the blatant lack of modelling: no attempt to use wiki markup; total absence of wikilinks; ridiculous long-winded references; no use of the format for refs; no independent references; naked URLs. In short, no real attempt to write a Wikipedia article. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:01, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Lionel Fanthorpe
Hi, the image of Lionel Fanthorpe has just been deleted. I have an email giving permission for its use. What do I do about this so I can reload the image? Thanks. Jack1956 (talk) 20:33, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I shall look more closely in future at speedy nominations using those ridiculous massive Google links instead of a link to a single explicit occurrence of the alleged copyvio. But you should still submit the permission email via OTRS and I would be happier if you uploaded the original of the image with the EXIF metadata still in place (and then re-instated the current version). &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:59, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Will do. Jack1956 (talk) 06:46, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

New Zealand national rugby league team
Hello there. You recently deleted File:New Zealand national rugby league team logo.svg on the grounds that it was redundant to File:New Zealand Rugby League logo.svg. This was despite me pointing out that the nomination was unwarranted on the deleted file's talk page. Please undelete it. Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 20:51, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Has been re-uploaded. I hope you have no objection to my having deleted File:New Zealand Rugby League logo.png. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:59, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * None whatsoever. Without wanting to put words in other users' mouths, I wonder if that's the image User:Blurred Lines was looking for. Either way, thank you. Malpass93! (what I've been up to/drop me a ___) 22:36, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

File:G Dragon Bean Pole.jpeg
Hello The picture that was deleted was found here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/tokyoultracool/6240508332/ using the free image search tool: http://search.creativecommons.org/. According to the site, the image was released under a creative common attribution-noncommericial-Sharealike 2.0 Generic License. I'm not too sure what to do, so please contact me. Thank you, Kkj11210 (talk) 23:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You have give the reason why it was deleted: cc-by-nc-sa-2.0 is not compatible with Wikipedia because we do not allow the NC clause. You do not need to do anything. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I didn't know that cc-by-nc-sa-2.0 wasn't allowed on Wikipedia. I'll look more closely at Image use policy next time Kkj11210 (talk) 00:51, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

File:2013ALCS.png
Hi, the ALDS logo is different from the ALCS logo which you deleted. Please restore it. <b style="font-family:sans-serif;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #9eceee;color:#fd0;"><font color="#00285D">CRRays <font color="#00285D">Head90 | <font color="#00285d">#OneMoreGame</b> 04:42, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Restored. Use it! &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. :) <b style="font-family:sans-serif;text-shadow:2px 2px 2px #9eceee;color:#fd0;"><font color="#00285D">CRRays <font color="#00285D">Head90 | <font color="#00285d">#OneMoreGame</b> 20:37, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Help
Can you please take a look at ANI and block the newest sock? Im in the process of reverting their edits. Werieth (talk) 10:49, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Werieth (talk) 10:59, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for feedback
Thanks, just saw your comments. Sorry, I obviously wasn't conversant with how to post a photo, will go back and do it correctly. Your points are all very helpful. Biographer1 (talk) 12:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

A deleted article
Hello, you recently deleted Kunchacko Boban (actor) as a duplicate of an existing article (Kunchacko Boban). The contents and editing history of the deleted version may be needed for a sockpuppet investigation. Could you restore it temporarily as a sandbox for me or as a redirect to the real article so that I can see the content and history? Thanks! -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  14:41, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Restored and merged into Kunchacko Boban. The following edits were done at Kunchacko Boban (actor): 2013-10-09T10:23:21, 2013-10-09T10:22:15, 2013-10-09T07:40:56 and 2013-10-09T07:39:00. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:01, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! and my suspicions were confirmed. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Scout Association of Japan
Please decline the speedies for the Scouting ranks (Scout Association of Japan) images File:Venture ranks (Scout Association of Japan).png and File:Scouting ranks (Scout Association of Japan).png. I requested the images be combined to comply with NFCC, the licensing should have just been fixed rather than tagged for speedy (not you, just I know you are an admin that looks at the speedies), I have fixed it to match the earlier correct image licenses, please have a look and decline. Thanks and good night.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 17:35, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Combining non-free files does not reduce the problem. Werieth (talk) 17:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

You weren't the one who speedy-tagged them, why are you butting in here?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 18:27, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Kintetsbuffalo, you were not the original uploader so you are probably allowed to remove the speedy tags yourself. But do not be so rude to Werieth - this is Wikipedia - anybody is allowed to contribute to any article or whatever. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:21, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

A little civility goes a long way...

 * Thread transferred to User talk:Mr. Straub

Walt Winston article should be restored!
The reason is, Mr. Winston has gained international fame as a result of his appearance on America's Got Talent! Which was also aired in the UK, Japan, and two other countries as well as the U.S.  He is listed in the america's got talent wiki as an act that appeared in multiple seasons (Seasons 6 & 7) using compositions he had written and today he has fans from around the world.

http://agt.wikia.com/wiki/Walt_Winston is the link and here in the states, the article is of significance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.190.136.217 (talk) 06:26, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The article was speedy deleted for not asserting any significance. You're probably better off just writing the article again from scratch. Make sure you add references to reliable sources such as major national news or magazine pieces that have Winston directly as the subject material - not just a single sentence. Wikia hosted pages are generally unacceptable as there is no editorial control over the content. <font color="#7F007F">Ritchie333 <font color="#7F007F">(talk)  <font color="#7F007F">(cont)   08:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Give me back the deleted article
You deleted a Tech Trailblazers Awards *DRAFT* article that I was working on in my sandbox. Please give it back. The article was not advertising, and it was not even published yet. I need to work on it. Please give it back.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Williaso (talk • contribs) 12:54, 10 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I am unimpressed by the declaration of COI on User:Williaso. It still smells strongly of advertising. But I have emailed you the text. If you do attempt to re-create it, please note that the only judges, sponsors and winners which should be listed are ones who have Wikipedia articles. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

ORMEs
WP:Articles for deletion/Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements. May I suggest you salt all the various titles while you're at it? EEng (talk) 19:13, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Now either salted or on my watchlist. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Indonesian hoaxes
Dear RHaworth, could you please kindly also delete Batas Waktu 60 Detik? This is another hoax made by the same creator of Minute to Win It Indonesia, as both are nonexistent in any TV channel in Indonesia. The vandal has been blocked indefinitely in the Indonesian Wikipedia for the same indictment. Thank you very much in advance :) Mimihitam (talk) 23:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have endorsed your proposed deletion; just as a heads-up, a hoax can be speedily deleted under criterion WP:G3b.-- <font color="#00F">Laun <font color="#00F">chba <font color="#00F">ller 08:27, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have blocked: creator of Batas Waktu 60 Detik,  edited BW60Detik and created Minute to Win It Indonesia,  edited both and created Ajun Perwira (is this OK or another hoax?).  did several edits to BW60Detik - is that another sock? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:18, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Reade this
Hi! I'd like to recreate a page that was deleted for copyright violation. Hi! Today I submitted an article about Colonel George Reade, but it was deleted due to copyright violation. Here is the information about what was there, although it appears to have already been deleted so I don't know how to provide a better link to it: 18:48, 10 October 2013 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Thom W Blair III/sandbox (G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of http://www.jamestowne-wash-nova.org/GeorgeReade.htm)

Or, maybe this is the way to provide the link? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Thom_W_Blair_III/sandbox&action=edit&redlink=1

I would like to recreate a viable article about Reade, so I thought I would copy down verbatim sections from a book that was copyrighted in 1932, but the current copyright information says it is "Public Domain - Google Digitized" so it seems like it would not be a copyright violation -- is this accurate? Here is a link to the PDF version of the text and it's copyright info: http://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015050616443

To my knowledge there is no text version of this book, only picture-scans of the pages of the book, so I felt it would be a good contribution to world knowledge-base to provide searchable text of the sections related to Reade.

I will fully cite the text and also include a permanent link to the PDF of the text.

Is this the appropriate way to remake the article?

Or do I have to paraphrase the text to avoid copyright infringement? I hesitate to do too much paraphrasing or rewriting because the information provided in the text is very succinct, almost facts only, so it seems I'd have to add lots of (possibly inappropriate) personal comments/fluff to somehow make it my own rendition.

Please forgive my ignorance -- this is my first time making a Wikipedia article, but I'd like to contribute more and do so properly, so thanks for your time!

Sincerely, Thom Blair III

Thom W Blair III (talk) 23:43, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Please read Copyright violations.-- <font color="#00F">Laun <font color="#00F">chba <font color="#00F">ller 08:29, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Result
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RESULT_%E2%80%93_Research_and_Education_Systems_Unified_as_Learning_Tools

Why was this page deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ana Khundadze (talk • contribs) 07:53, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Because it was unambiguous advertising or promotion and had a ridiculous title.-- <font color="#00F">Laun <font color="#00F">chba <font color="#00F">ller 08:24, 11 October 2013 (UTC)