User talk:RHaworth/2018 Apr 16

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome
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Blanked Talk Page
Why did you blank my talk page, in effect deleting my account deletion request? Thanks. Michael S Wayne 23:42, 23 March 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waynems (talk • contribs)


 * The concept of account deletion does not exist on Wikipedia. There is a right to vanish but I do not think you have done anything serious enough to justify its use. As the right to vanish page says, if you want to quit, just walk away - don't try and hide your past, just dismiss it as the folly of youth. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:39, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

Not trying to hide anything from my past, and youth passed me by long ago. I want to delete the account and make sure those in charge understand why. As I said before, several hundred hours were invested in updating high schools in Texas, and multiple, sometimes many, edits for individual schools were reverted over one or two small errors. This doesn't seem like an intelligent way to invite collaboration. Additionally, a Wikimedia continues to reject original artwork, claiming it exists in other locations on the web, and that it is highly unlikely I am the creator of the artwork. Many monitors and editors are rude, arrogant, and seem more concerned with formats than with content that is properly researched and accurate. Michael S Wayne 23:32, 24 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I hate it when I leave messages and people completely ignore them. If you had followed my link to the right to vanish page, you would have seen the words in bold: it is not possible to delete an account.. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:22, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

I hate it when people assume their messages were ignored. I will ignore the condescending tone and will simply ask a question: Aren't user pages the same as article pages? If so, I see articles deleted all the time. If not, count the information as a lesson learned. Michael S Wayne 09:14, 31 March 2018 (UTC)


 * If you had followed my link to the right to vanish page, you might have seen the deletion of user talk pages section which explains why user talk pages are different. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

undeleted your deletion
You should probably see if a disambig page is truly unnecessary before deleting it... I recreated the route 625 page. &mdash;Famartin (talk) 10:58, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * What page am I accused of deleting? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:42, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * this one. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:07, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * It was unnecessary at the time I deleted it because it contained only one link. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Stephen King (surveyor) redirect page
Hi RHaworth! I see you refused my request to speedily delete this redirect, which would have allowed me to make Stephen King (surveyor) the title of the article, for reasons which I listed. I have gone through this sort of process before without too much problem: I posted a note on Stephen King Jr.'s talk page a week or so ago and received no countervailing arguments.

The reason you gave for "unspeedying" it was that there were several articles that linked to Stephen King (surveyor). My intention was to rename Stephen King Jr. article to Stephen King (surveyor) as soon as that title was free, though the Admins who performed the task on those other occasions saved me the trouble.

Is there a better way to apply for moving an article over a redirect? Thank you for your service. Doug butler (talk) 12:13, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * You can apply for the page mover right, which allows you to do exactly that. You'll generally need to have about 3,000 edits and been editing Wikipedia regularly for six months; then go to Requests for permissions and ask. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  17:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * "Reasons which I listed" - so where did you list them. It is perfectly OK to do a non-templated speedy request listing reasons. The problem was that you used a bald db-maintenance tag thus. If you had use a db-move tag, I would have known what you were on about. But no need to do it now: simply acknowledge that you have read this message and I will willingly move Stephen King Jr. to Stephen King (surveyor) for you. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Message received. I'll make a note of db-move. Doug butler (talk) 22:38, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

UK Railways station re-openings
Re: UK railway station openings / reopenings by year. You seem to delete a lot of pages RH, I wasn`t aware that Wikipedia was short of server space, is it ? This was not the first page I`ve started, but, do you know what ? Every other page had the same "we think this page should be deleted tag" put on it, then went on to get reasonable numbers of hits, every one, without exeception. What makes me even more annoyed is I didn`t want to waste my time starting a page then getting nto arguments with other Wikipedia editors so I put discussions on two Wikipedia railway pages and not only did nobody say we think that`s a bad idea, but nobody stated there was another page the same, which they wouldn`t because, as it happens, there isn`t. As far as I can tell that new page has been deleted and I`m pretty annoyed about it, to be frank I`ve got better things to do with my time.

Three pages I started (all proposed for deletion....) Maybe I do know a bit about what Wikipedia readers want to read ? And anyway, the page you think is a duplicate only goes back to 1995, I would have thought the page I started should go back to at least 1965, possibly all the way back ? -- JustinSmith (talk) 12:57, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Erna Petri av page hits in last 20 days = 12 (= @4500 per year)
 * Fiesta Nightclub av hits in past 20 days = 6 (= @2200 per year)
 * "Operation Sea Lion : The Sandhurst Wargame" av hits in past 90 days = 66 per day (= @24,000 per year)


 * "You seem to delete a lot of pages RH" - Don't worry, some of us restore them. Restored to Draft:UK railway station openings / reopenings by year. If you want to make top-notch list articles, speak to "Mr Featured List", . &mdash; Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:33, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * What concerns me more here (apart from the deletion of an article over what was clearly an AfD issue at minimum, or the deletion of such a newly started article) was the fact that once again RHaworth was happy to speedy delete yet another article almost immediately, despite it being an obviously technically invalid CSD criterion, "[a] recently created article with no relevant page history that duplicates an existing English Wikipedia topic."  Amazingly enough, GB railway history and the opening of stations is a little longer than just since 1995. A10 also has an explicit exclusion for the splitting or restructuring of large articles, and this topic is already recognised as filling its own category.  This was neither a valid CSD nomination, nor an appropriate CSD on which to delete an article. As CSD is specific, Administrators should take care not to speedy delete pages or media except in the most obvious cases.  It is the function of CSD to clean up only the obvious detritus, not to go near anything where there is any scope for question, and this applies even though some administrators still seem to think they are also the arbiters of content issues. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:00, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Indeed. Unless the article is vandalism / hoax (WP:G3), libellous (WP:G10) or a copyright violation (WP:G12) there is generally no urgency to delete it, and moving it to draft or starting an AfD debate instead can sometimes be the better option as we won't get an editor storming off in a huff telling their friends not to bother with Wikipedia as all they do is delete your work. Or something like that. &mdash; Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  16:10, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Go and do some training for WMF / WMUK somewhere. Hear the "I wrote something and then it was deleted immediately with no discussion" stories - it's so often the same admin names that come up, over and over again. Andy Dingley (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've got real-life friends who've tried to edit Wikipedia - same problem comes up, and has done for at least 10 years. &mdash; <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  16:18, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Noted. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

My sandbox
Hi there, You deleted the whole sandbox that I needed for my project due tomorrow. Please, if you can undelete this because it had all my information on it. I don't know what else I can do because I need that information along with the citations that you have deleted and I need it back. Please undelete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdobrish (talk • contribs) 23:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Restored. Hint: learn to read the deletion log entry and your contributions history. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:51, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

European userbox templates
I've created a separate list page for the userbox templates of each European nation. This has nothing to do with whether the nation is a member of the European Union or not. All European nations are listed at Userboxes/Location/Europe and all European Union member states are listed at Userboxes/Location/European Union. This has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. I hope this works for you. Your aye, Buaidh  talk contribs 03:00, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


 * So what? Have I done anything to frustrate your efforts? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:51, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

The GOAT Index revisions
Hello, I did my best to type an objective summary of the GOAT Index on Hickam's Dictum, but my first draft was deleted (click HERE for draft page). I just submitted a revision following the guidelines you mentioned and I provided references. Thankyou for your consideration. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OkomfoAnokye (talk • contribs) 05:17, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Noted. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 07:51, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Besh Wedge Draft restoration??
Hey there RH, I do appreciate your work and contributions to the wiki-world. I am working on the rewriting to create a version that is more guideline compliant. Can you please undelete my Besh Wedge draft and restore please? Thank you for your time with this. Cheers, Brent — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrentMBeshara (talk • contribs) 21:04, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your product is notable and writes about it here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:38, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Redirects shadowing commons...
https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/25955 contains a diminishing number. A query with more entries is https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/19295 but this may have a lot of false positives I'm told. &mdash; ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 22:30, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Many thanks, I shall try and remember that and run the query from time to time. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Unprotection of Adobe CreatePDF
Firstly, I can't understand why you protected this redirect but can you please unprotect it. I can't see a reason why indefinite full protection is needed. &mdash; Pkbwcgs (talk) 11:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * For goodness sake! Look at the history! Repeated attempts to create a stub when a redirect was far more appropriate. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Bypassing protection
The page Nectar consultancy services pvt ltd which you create-potected for repeated rcreation is now being recreated at slightly changed name Nectar consultancy pvt ltd to bypass the protection by the same user. – Ammarpad (talk) 10:01, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Even as you were writing that message, I was blocking the perpetrator. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:04, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft: Donald Jacobs
Dear RHaworth, Could you send me the deleted article Draft:Donald_Jacobs to my email? Best regards, Oggyoggy (talk) 10:24, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Considering that it was deleted as "Unambiguous copyright infringement,"* it would probably be best if you started working on the draft again in your own words. Because of the deletion reason, I doubt that you will be able to find an administrator willing to email the content.
 * I put the "*" up there as I am not an administrator myself and, as such, cannot view the contents of the deleted page to confirm how much was a copyright violation etc. However, if it was deleted as a copyright violation and did not just have the violation(s) removed and the history redacted, then it probably can be assumed that the majority (if not all) of the draft was a violation.
 * I hope that this helps to answer your question. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them here. -- The SandDoctor  Talk 17:14, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

please close this AfD
See: Articles for deletion/Gulone, Since you delete Gulone, thanks. Hhhhhkohhhhh (talk) 10:31, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ by RHaworth at 11:05, 2 April 2018‎. With that said, you can perform a non-admin close on discussions yourself if you notice that the page(s) nominated at an XfD have been deleted but the discussion not closed (more on when you can and cannot perform non-admin closes). I would recommend using XfDcloser when doing so (unless you prefer the manual way outlined in the administrator instructions link at WP:AFD,WP:MFD, etc). Hope this helps! --All the best, The SandDoctor  Talk 17:08, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

User talk:18Zi
This user needs to have talk page access removed. They've gone to using their talk page for non-Wikipedia communications of some sort, similar to the NOTHERE code communications they were originally blocked for. I've removed the latest from their talk page (added in this edit) and it may be appropriate for RevDel also. Thank you. -- &#124; <b style="color:#005">Uncle Milty</b> &#124;  talk  &#124;  16:02, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Police Now
Hello. I'm fairly new to wikipedia and towards the end of last year tried to write a page for the charity I work for Police Now. I believe you deleted it for copywrite reasons. Is it ok if I amend and re-submit for publication? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TStromsoe (talk • contribs) 15:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC) TStromsoe (talk) 15:59, 3 April 2018 (UTC)User:TStromsoe


 * There has never been a page at Police Now and there is nothing (currently) preventing you creating one. But kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your organisation is notable and writes about it here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Retrieve draft request: Sandeep Kishore
Hello RHaworth, I hope you are having a good day. You recently sent me a message that my submission/draft would be deleted, rightfully so! Yes, I'm new. Even I have spots I cannot change. That said, I've been given the responsibility to draft and submit a qualifying wikipedia page for my boss. I personally believe Kishore should be granted a wikipedia page because of his artistic endeavors (he is a published author of poetry) and also to distinguish him from Dr. Sandeep Kishore, who is gaining in popularity. That also said, I have no doubt my submission was littered with bad markup and more.

I am requesting a restoration of the deleted draft or retrieval to user: or draft: space, whichever is appropriate. I would like to make revisions and re-submit. I have done a great deal of research into proper format but still find it difficult. I do have HTML experience but not citation experience. That is where I get stuck. Thanks for your continuing patience and assistance. Libbi Thevenet Preceding unsigned comment added by Libbi t (talk • contribs) 16:10, 3 April 2018 (UTC)


 * You do not need HTML experience to contribute to Wikipedia but you do need to understand references. The rule book says that drafts deleted as stale may be restored on demand so I have done so. However please wait until Sandeep actually becomes notable when someone with no CoI will write about him here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

File:Max Holloway UFC.png wrongfully delete
The picture was indeed fair-use (Wikipedia) and permission wise.. and should never been deleted at all without reviewing the appeal.


 * Under Twitter Rules - The Picture was from orignal user who set the Permission setting to public meaning anyone can see it and be auto allowed to use it without consent. (If the Picture Permission was set on private then we more likely not allowed to use it without asking)
 * The picture was also credited also following Copyright rules above Twitter Rules. as contested on the speedy deletion was never viewed.
 * The picture is part of the Plan to have all Former or Current UFC Fighters to have a picture ...by complying all rules which i did

I believe I followed all the rules 🥇 BUS  riderSFUser (talk • contribs) 21:02, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair use is not usually allowed for images of living people. Therefore you must find an image where you can unambiguously demonstrate that it is available under a cc-by-sa-4.0 or compatible licence. Then it may be uploaded to the Commons. Please stop trying to upload images to this, the English Wikipedia. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Green Tomato Cars
Hi Roger, I was notified that you deleted the Green Tomato Cars page and I was wondering you if you could please detail what part of the page you thought was too promotional? I look forward to hearing from you. CJGC — Preceding unsigned comment added by CJGC (talk • contribs) 15:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I had a look too. While "Toyota’s recall of its Prius cars worldwide over brake fault at the end of 2009 and the beginning of 2010 has caused a big blow to Green Tomato Cars as Toyota’s eminent client in the UK." uses flowery language, writing about a recall that causes financial difficulties of a company is hardly "promotional!" Restored, cleaning up now. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  15:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)


 * CJGC, learn to provide a link when you talk about a page. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:43, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Haworth, learn not to patronise inexperienced users and help improve new articles, and not trash-talk those who don't understand the technical gobbledegook. You know how a "search" button works, right? I've already warned you a few times about not adhering to policy and being uncivil, and you've been mentioned at AN recently as the "anti-" ie. you are taking too broad a stance over the CSD policy. So next time I spot a very obviously wrong deletion, I want you to explain yourself thoroughly before somebody yanks you to AN / ANI and forces it out of you. Contrary to what you might think, I have no desire to create a desysop-via-Arbcom casse whatsoever (not least as a filing party I'd probably be admonished or worse too), I just want you to understand there is a problem, and for you to understand what you need to do to fix it. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:43, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Information sharing
Re:. Hello there - I am writing you today in response to your speedy deletion of the Draft:Oil and Natural Gas Information Sharing and Analysis Center. I work for a company that is involved in research pertaining to cybersecurity in the United States. In my research on Information Sharing and Analysis Centers (ISACs), I came across the Wikipedia page for the National Health ISAC (NH-ISAC) and decided to create a similar Wikipedia page for the Oil and Natural Gas ISAC (ONG-ISAC) because it did not yet have one. My confusion lies in the fact that a page like that of the NH-ISAC was approved, but a similar page that I wrote on its counterpart, the Oil and Natural Gas ISAC (ONG-ISAC), was not approved. I referenced a substantial amount of public articles/organizations that discuss the group and gave an in-depth history about Information Sharing and Analysis Centers. In no way did I promote the Oil and Natural Gas ISAC's services. I also provided sufficient background information on the subject as a whole.

I understand that the subject of cybersecurity might not be the most easily understood, but I have provided a enough information to give readers a base knowledge and continue reading more about the topic. Please let me know if there is anything that I can do to reverse your decision, as it would be nice for this organization to have a page like its counterparts. Best, Matt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbarton52 (talk • contribs) 17:35, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Why one deleted and the other survived? Mainly luck of the draw. NH-ISAC is only fractionally better than your submission. Iff you have no CoI, take time to actually look at other articles here and avoid obvious errors like: copyvio, naked URLs, not using list markup, infobox near the end, etc.! (Providing evidence of notability would also help.) &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:43, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

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Comedian Nazareth
Dear Mr. Haworth: Hello. Hope all is well. I was wondering why Comedian Nazareth's page is getting deleted and was never published on Wikipedia. Comedian Nazareth is an Internationally known comedian and has been doing comedy for over 28 years. He has appeared on many Television shows and continues to appear on various networks. He performs around 120 shows per year at Stadiums, Sports arenas, churches, and other venues. He's been featured on different newspapers and magazines. He wrote two books and one is ready to be published on Amazon.com (Hope in 24 Hours) his website is http://www.NazarethUSA.com. Facebook page has with over 9200 followers / Over 12000 on his constant contact page and 100,000 in the mailing list. Two movies on Pureflix. Can you please guide me on how to establish a Wikipedia presence for him? I would really appreciate it. Thank you, Daniel Juarez Laughter For All info@laughterforall.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nazzman1 (talk • contribs) 04:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who a) knows how to create Wikipedia articles and b) has no CoI, thinks your client is notable and writes about him here. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:53, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Wrong answer again, it was actually deleted because the draft hadn't been edited for six months and can be restored on request as per policy - we are lenient towards drafts and there is no evidence the above editor has any connection with Nazareth. Do you have a recall criteria? PS: I laughed at this, I can't wait to see what Nazareth's got on Trump.... <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  19:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Divya Agarwal
Was that page previously deleted as a result of an XFD discussion? Because I didn't find one... if the page hasn't been, G4 does not apply and the article can't be deleted per that criteria. Please let me know.  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:16, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

And why am I a "pedant"? lol  ~Oshwah~  (talk) (contribs)   14:46, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it's probably WP:ARTSPAM and worthy of deletion but it certainly wasn't G4 and I think an answer is warranted. Calling Oshwah a pedant for asking about an admin action (which should and is subject to scrutiny from the community) is really uncalled for, especially given the re-deletion and subsequent salting. I'm all for removing crap from Wikipedia but not like that. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  15:06, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

HighStakes
Why have you deleted my user:HighStakes page about Robert Young he is now a disabled musician.I just wanted to show what he has done. What advertising did I do I just showed links to his web site so people can see the genuine article. I find it terrible to do this, maybe you don't like disabled people who are trying to show the world you can still live. Why not tell me or show me what I must remove as I am dyslexic I do my best for him. I don't no you. I wont bother any more, I will let his 400k supporters know what you have done to this very genuine man. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:32DD:4400:A158:E0:6DE6:5C54 (talk) 14:25, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I call this the "it cannot possibly be me" syndrome. "It cannot be be something I have done: it must be because the deleter is biassed against disabled people". But how did I know that Robert Young is disabled? There was no hint in your text. In fact deletion was for the technical reason that article material is not allowed in a user page. Iff you have no CoI and can provide sound evidence for the guy's notability, feel free to try again via AfC. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Protection of Garrett / teh ROBLOX Player
Hi there! Could you please unprotect Garrett / teh ROBLOX Player or make it a redirect to User:Garretttehrobloxplayer (my user page). Thanks in advance! Garretttehrobloxplayer (talk) 19:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I really don't think you should have any personal details on Wikipedia or any public website; it is a bad idea as anyone else in the world can get hold of these details and exploit them for their own purposes. Please see Protecting children's privacy and ask your parents to read Advice for parents. Thank you. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  20:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


 * What Ritchie omitted to mention is that nobody gets a redirect, or even a link, from mainspace to their user page. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Understood. &mdash; Garretttehrobloxplayer (talk) 20:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of GoLookUp page
Hello RHaworth, You have recently made a page we are trying to create GoLookUp protected from creation and editing. We now have a new version of the page that we would like to create, and I would be happy if you can tell me how to make the creation unprotected. I have the draft of the page and also the code if you would like to review them. Thank you, Ramaus2018 (talk) 07:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I see that your account has now been blocked. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Doug E. Clay
What is wrong with it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csulaguy (talk • contribs) 14:32, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * This time last week my reply would simply have been "what are you talking about?" But since I am undergoing re-education as an admin, I have to second guess what you mean and tell you: follow this link: Doug E. Clay and read what is there - remember that logs are counter-chronological. The history is that the page was moved to Draft:Doug E. Clay and all I did was to delete the redirect left behind after the move. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

April 2018
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is RHaworth and speedies. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  18:07, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Missed Drafts
Hello, these two Drafts Draft:Shivered (Band) & Draft:Johnster Space Program have been nominated for deletion since February, could you please take a look? I am not sure why they were missed? Thanks as always. JMHamo (talk) 20:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * They were missed because they were not properly tagged, so they were not put into the candidates for CSD category. Adam9007 (talk) 20:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Singer Neel Naik Plz Co-Oprate This Page
Singer Neel Naik Active This Page Article Editing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Singer neel naik (talk • contribs) 04:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Blocked as a sock. &mdash; Alex Shih (talk) 14:09, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello :)
Can I get writing 'Reuse Wasted Areas of Donghae Nambu Line' what you deleted ? I'm a new-comer in Wikipedia. So I didn't save any other ways. Thanks :) Genie.P (talk) 10:30, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Already answered at Requests_for_undeletion. Alex Shih (talk) 14:17, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:SIGWATCH
Dear RHworth, a couple of weeks ago you deleted a page I created Draft:SIGWATCH. I was wondering how I can retrieve the deleted material for improvement and resubmission? I want to work on it and rectify the mistakes I made in order to ensure it complies with Wikipedia guidelines. I have extensively reviewed wikipedia guidelines and am confident that the organisation more than meets corporate notability requirements and that it should have a objective, neutrally written wikipedia page. Thank you and best wishes, Ingrid. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ics7836 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , I have sent the text to you through e-mail. Please do not re-submit the text at the current state, as it is blatantly promotional and you clearly have conflict of interest with the subject. For more information, please refer to Paid-contribution disclosure, thanks. Alex Shih (talk) 14:21, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Matt Amato
Hi, I clicked submit too fast on the Matt Amato article and will complete the article and resubmit. Thanks for your attention Jon Phillips (talk) 18:57, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

I updated the draft, what is next? I added two more sources. Will keep adding more Jon Phillips (talk) 20:40, 9 April 2018 (UTC)


 * What is next? I would say: add decent evidence of notabilty. But if you think you have already done that, then simply click on the "submit" link. Incidentally why are you contacting me? It is perfectly OK for you to do so but have we interracted at all in the past? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:54, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Kindly wait until somebody with no COI thinks you are worthy of being an admin and nominates you for RfA. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:52, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Luckily, I have absolutely no interest in RfA, but thanks for your note on this well deserved Barnstar for RHaworth. JMHamo (talk) 22:19, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

That's good, because I can see 58 declined speedies this year, including 9 declined A7s, so you wouldn't pass. And this is deserved in the same way Donald Trump "deserves" to get large crowds in Podunk, Nebraska. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:22, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't really care... Thanks anyway. JMHamo (talk) 22:24, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * @Ritchie333, I'm disappointed to find you making snide comments like this. Understood that you're concerned with RHaworth's recent conduct, but JMHamo is certainly entitled to their own opinion; please be respectful of that.  -  F ASTILY   01:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, was feeling tired and fed up. :-( <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  08:05, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you JMH for those words of encouragement. I am feeling rather battered at the moment. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Roger, I don't know if you remember but we did meet up at a WMUK Christmas party once and had an interesting conversation about London pubs and I went away with the impression that you were a nice guy, and somebody who could really deserve a hug. I know I have been a bit ranty but it really isn't anything personal and I'd hate to turn up to the Pendrel's Oak for a pint with SerialNumber 12345898 (or whatever his name is) and get a frosty reception because you're there. <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  14:25, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I have been watching with some sadness a number of respected editors having a serious go at you. I rarely join in these dramas but I for one do value enormously the work you do. I perceive quality as being not only the glitzy GAs but also the lack of total crud in this encyclopaedia. FWIW, I think we still let in volumes of trivia with very little worth, but I am with you totally in your actions helping to stop all the stuff with no merit or notability at all. Wikipedia does seem to have a worrying self-destructive streak which I hope you can work through unscathed. Best wishes  Velella  Velella Talk  15:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I second this. If I was to take even a fraction of the workload RHaworth does on daily basis, I would be driven insane and off the project in no time by endless number of CoI editors that do not read instructions alone. I hope I can travel to London one day and have a pint with all these awesome editors/administrators. Alex Shih (talk) 15:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you Velella and Alex Shih. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Kritika Sharma
Hello RHaworth, An IP address who I'm assuming is globally blocked user  requesting a newly registered user to create their deleted article Kritika Sharma (you deleted recently) under Kritika Sharma (actress)  so since Draft:Kritika Sharma already exists is it possible to protect "Kritika Sharma (actress)" to avoid any misuse? Thank you – <span style="font-family:monospace;font-weight:bold;font-size:16px;color:hsl(205, 98%, 55%);">GSS (talk |c|em ) 05:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Done. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

CSD A7 Speedy Delete
Hi there, You speedy deleted this page earlier today. I have made some minor changes which more credibly indicate the importance or significance of this music group. I respectfully request that the page be undeleted so that I can apply these changes. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by AGJlen (talk • contribs) 13:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Iff you have no CoI, resubmit via AfC. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:54, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Lawrence Goldhuber
You recently deleted the article I created (Draft:Lawrence Goldhuber) as "Unambiguous copyright infringement", and I understand that I have to completely rewrite it, but I'd really appreciate an email containing a copy of the original content so that I may use the citations. I think they will continue to be valid and useful. Thank you, StephBGold (talk) 23:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Email sent. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. &mdash; StephBGold (talk) 16:23, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Acharya Indu Prakash
May I know the reason for deleting Acharya Indu Prakash, even being so popular and notable in India. Acharya Indu Prakash is notable, acclaimed, his biography is a subject of study. -- Spiritualbanda (talk) 06:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * You seem to have worked things out. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Printerland - please review
Hi RHaworth, I have recreated the page Draft:Printerland after it was deleted due to copyright infringement. Could you please re-review? Thanks. Lauloulew (talk) 10:12, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't get involved in draft review. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Child Jesus of Prague School
About the "Child Jesus of Prague School" primary school in the Philippines speedy deletion. Hi RH. In light of recent troubles at the mill, I suggest that it may possibly have been good practice to drop a friendly little note on the talkpage of about copyvios and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. &mdash; Mr Wentworth aka -- Shirt58 (talk) 12:08, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * It is always a good idea to provide a link when you talk about a page and in this case it is vital. Child Jesus of Prague School and child jesus of prague school have both existed but how have I been involved with either title? &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Revdel instead of delete?
Hi RHaworth, could you undelete the first revision of Draft:Conference of Oriental Orthodox Churches (the one that contains the copyvio), and WP:REVDEL it instead? I'd rather not give the impression that I created that page, and my edit summary makes it seem like I copied what written at scooch.org/about/about-addis-ababa/addis-ababa-conference-of-1965. Thanks, Simplexity22 (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Page recreation
Association Montessori Internationale was recreated 20 minutes after you speedy deleted as an A7. It's my first day at NPP so I'm not sure what to do here - should this be redeleted or just moved to draft space? &mdash; Seraphim System  ( talk ) 20:26, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Usual practice is to tag (or a derived tag) again and an admin will look at it again - if it looks like somebody repeatedly posting the same thing again and again, the page can be "salted" so it cannot be recreated (see Articles for deletion/John Galea for an extreme example of this that tried everyone's patience). However, in this case, I do not believe Association Montessori Internationale meets the criteria for WP:A7 as it was founded by Maria Montessori who has a pretty well-developed article; ergo the very worst scenario is this article would be redirected there.  &mdash; <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:02, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Should I just tag it for AfD instead of A7 in that case? I did a WP:BEFORE check and I couldn't see much to establish notability for a standalone article under WP:NORG - most of the refs I found looked like passing mentions/churnalism... &mdash; Seraphim System  ( talk ) 21:04, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You can tag it for AfD if you like, and a discussion will happen. For a genuine A7, you shouldn't be able to find any references at all. The A7 criteria was originally designed to stop articles about high school teachers gumming up the works at AfD - see User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to A7 and User:SoWhy/Common A7 mistakes. &mdash; <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:06, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Hmm...the policy guidance I saw for A7 was that it wasn't about notability, but rather whether the article asserted notability. This article in its current state doesn't but I was able to find some more refs that support notability, so I am just going to add them to the article instead. &mdash; Seraphim System  ( talk ) 21:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * My essay has a better way of viewing these things - the problem is what you think is "asserting notability" is likely to be different to what I think, which in turn is going to be different to what RHaworth thinks and what SoWhy thinks. It's so subjective, that's how arguments start. &mdash; <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  21:16, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Maria M. is undoubtedly notable but notability is not inherited. Let us see what the AfC reviewers think of it. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:42, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * You know...redirects are a thing...that exist. &mdash;  G M G  <sup style="color:#000;font-family:Impact">talk  21:45, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I recall an AfD where I went with "merge" and everyone else went with "delete", so I suggested that WP:INVALIDBIO might want to be changed to reflect current practices, if this debate reflected them. (Ah yes, it was this one). <b style="color:#7F007F">Ritchie333</b> <sup style="color:#7F007F">(talk) <sup style="color:#7F007F">(cont)  22:13, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Creating Selangor FA Reserves and Academy
Hi, I've been wanting to create this page to move a few bits from Selangor FA page because it's getting ridiculously large but I see that you've previously deleted a page with that title, tagged with A7. Is it okay for me to recreate the article per WP:AS or is it not allowed? Thanks for your help. Froswo (talk) 07:13, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Recreation is allowed but don't blame me if it gets tagged again for deletion. Suggestions: re-submit via AfC or get agreement for a new page at talk:Selangor FA. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Nicolae Coande
Hello, I made a page about a great poet of Romania, Nicolae Coande. I saw that was deleted for some copyright infrigement but let me know more about this. He is member of PEN Club Romania, I wrote this information in his page and I put a reference to the Wikipedia page of this PEN Club, to can verify this sentence by everyone. Please let me know what is wrong with this? Best Regards, Marius Dobrin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariusvirgildobrin (talk • contribs)
 * The page contained large chunks copied directly from this page. That page has no copyright notice so, by default, we must assume that it is "all rights reserved". If you are saying that you wrote the page at penromania.ro, then arrange for it to display a cc-by-sa-4.0 or compatible licence. When you re-submit here, point out the licence terms in the edit summary, as an HTML comment within the text and on the talk page. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 23:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Draft:JOAN (room scheduler)
You deleted Draft:JOAN (room scheduler) under WP:CSD as blatant advertising or promotion. It was under discussion at MfD, and two editors had opined tht it should not be deleted, implicitly suggestive that it was not a speedy deletion case. I have reviewed the content, and I don't think this had the level of promotion that justifies a g-11. In view of all this, ask you to undelete this and let the MfD continue. Thank you. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 02:00, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree. I did not think it G11-elibile, please I delete and allow Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:JOAN (room scheduler) to take its course. — SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:20, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * If restored it needs to be moved to mainspace immediately. Keep means the topic deserves a page. Then someone can send it to AfD. &mdash; Legacypac (talk) 03:46, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * An mfd Keep does not mean mainspace. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:35, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Sure it does. Drafts are temporary. If you think a draft nominated for deletion you must think it plausably good for mainspace where it can be fixed up. &mdash; Legacypac (talk) 07:05, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No, there’s a large gap between good enough to leave in draftspace for six months, and good enough for mainspace. — SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:42, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * So you don't really want to keep the page, you want to delete it in 6 months. &mdash; Legacypac (talk) 07:52, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I don’t want it to cause the creation of an MfD page. Either, a miracle will happen and the author will fix it up and make it good, or it can be deleted by G13 in six months, or a faster CSD if applicable, including A11 and even A7 extended to draftspace.  — SmokeyJoe (talk) 08:23, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Clearly G11 spam. I endorse this deletion. Why waste more time at MfD with it? &mdash; Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:32, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I take the view that bold / revert / discuss can be applied to admin actions . So DES, just revert my action and see if I bother to discuss. &mdash; RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:02, 14 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you,, I will do so. , I think you are makign a false dichotomy here. A keep at an MfD means, or at least should man, that an article has a plausible chance of being improved enough to be ready for mainspace, not thast it is ready as it stands. Thee is a gap between "s bad that it must be delted now" nd "ready for mainspace". And, if I recall correctly, the community, and arbcom, have taken a dim view of moving things to mainspace with the intent of deleting them under mainspace rules. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 13:55, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Brent–Kung adder
Hi Roger, I was improving some articles on digital adders and saw that we once had an article on the Brent–Kung adder, which was apparently moved to Draft:Brent–Kung adder at some stage and then deleted. I don't know if the article was good enough for a stub already, but what I do know is that the subject "Brent–Kung adder" is a notable one in principle and that eventually we should have an article about it (as we have for a number of other types of adders). Do you think it would make sense to undelete that page and move it to article space, or to merge the contents into another article (like adder (electronics)) for now? I can't promise to work much on the article myself but given that I ran into it today I wanted to bring this to your attention the least. Thanks for your time and greetings --Matthiaspaul (talk) 21:37, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Why not WP:DENY?
to Category and this one. Both are created by a banned editor's sockpuppet and had no substantive edits by anyone else. The whole category tree was created by a banned editor as I pointed out[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Festivals_by_year_of_establishment on one of the talk page's where you reverted my edit. Why isn't it WP:DENY?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 12:45, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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Y u delete my page. &mdash; Premwikier (talk) 14:39, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Fig you later
Hello! Thanks for your hard work on keeping Wikipedia's guidelines enforced, i truly see you as a coach as of now. My apologies for the foul photo. I deeply apologize. Please if you have any advice for me it will be taken in great consideration. -Figguhlator P.R. editor — Preceding unsigned comment added by Figguhlator (Rapper) (talk • contribs) 17:24, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Habibur Rahman (police officer)
Please recheck Habibur Rahman (police officer) article there have more news references Habibur Rahman (police officer) award winner by Bangladesh prime Minister ,Habibur Rahman (police officer) is is 100% government employee and public figure & Additional DIG Police HQ Bangladesh, please restore this article. Check Google link see more information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ismailim (talk • contribs) 20:14, 15 April 2018 (UTC)