User talk:RHaworth/2019 Dec 09

Draft:Cosmoteer
I think you made a mistake deleting the Cosmoteer draft article. While I agree that the article wasn't ready for mainspace, read like an ad and was under referenced, I intended to improve it and fix those problems, that is what draft space is for isn't it? That fact that I was intending to improve it should have been obvious from my message in the talk page and the fact I made the entire article in the past 2 days. So, can you please return the article to draft space. — FormularSumo (talk) 08:18, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Learn to provide a link whenever you talk about a page. Draft:Cosmoteer restored. Bkissin, please allow it to be reviewed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks you for restoring the article. Sorry for not leaving a link. I normally do, but I suppose I (wrongly) thought it not helpful as the draft had been deleted. — FormularSumo (talk) 15:44, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Prasantt Ghosh
Hi Roger! Requesting to know what exactly was the promotional content for which the page Prasantt Ghosh was deleted. I had recently created a wikipedia page named Prasantt Ghosh. But I found out that you deleted the page due to some "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION". I'm new to wikipedia so please guide me exactly what went wrong and how can I retrieve the lost data to make the required changes. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepika Deori (talk • contribs) 13:28, 19 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Most of the article. "Prasantt Ghosh has given a new aura to the traditional Assamese and northeast outfits with his creativity and authenticity" is a good example. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who has no CoI but does know encyclopedic style thinks the guy is notable and writes about him here. If you want your text, read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Roger! Thank you for your reply. I tried my best to remove any "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION" for the page Prasantt Ghosh. Can you please e-mail me the copy of the deleted article so that I can make the necessary changes. I have updated my mail as you directed. — Deepika Deori


 * Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Will make the necessary changes as required. Deepika Deori 11:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)Deepika DeoriDeepika Deori 11:12, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Roger! The page has been deleted again because of any "UNAMBIGUOUS PROMOTION". Can you please specify the mistakes? Were the citation links any promotional? Please specify. Thank you! Deepika Deori 06:46, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


 * You shot yourself in the foot by re-creating the page with the speedy deletion tag still in place. If you really insist on spamming us, I suggest you do so via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

User:Dragonboat Ronin/sandbox
Greetings Mr. Haworth, Recently a page in progress User:Dragonboat Ronin/sandbox was deleted with a caption from you saying "I am deafened by the shouting". If you are referring to the use of capital letters i apologize for any misunderstanding: this was only a template that i was working on formatting into something viable for Wikipedia and no "shouting" was intended. Among the many changes intended, i was hoping to find some way to change the upper-case without having to retype everything manually. This entire page was a very rough draft, not remotely near ready for submission to publication.

I had been under the impression my user sandbox was not a public domain and could be used to work on a potential submission until it is legitimately ready for Wikipedia submission. Is this not the case? If not and if i hope to submit a proper document, then do i need to compose it fully on my own editor first before making any submissions even into the user sandbox? Essentially i am hoping to publish a synopsis of the fastest dragon boat race times throughout respective historic major competitions in all major locations around the world. If this is not something suitable for Wikipedia please let me know. Regards, Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 23:50, 21 November 2019 (UTC)


 * "Public domain" is a technical term re copyright. Nothing on Wikipedia is public domain - all is covered by the Creative Commons licence. But your sandbox is fully visible to "the public". But that is not the issue. The question is: are you actually developing article material or using Wikipedia as a free host. In OpenOffice Writer: select text; click Format / Change case / required option. Similar in other text editors. Two states of your page sent. I advise you to keep it away from Wikipedia until it looks more like article material. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Greetings Mr. Haworth. First of all, great thanks for the respectful (and very helpful) reply; I was NOT under the impression that my sandbox was publicly viewable. Note: I may not be alone in this misconception; I seem to recall a statement when being welcomed to Wikipedia that said something to the order of writing in your sandbox if you do not want to affect main-space (I took this to mean my sandbox was a private zone to practice with the Wikipedia editor).

Regarding assistance: i am literally amazed that you took the personal time to help change the case for me in my text. My work-in-progress was actually a cut & paste of an email i wrote to various prominent people in the Dragonboat community in response to several records set in the World Championships last August; hence the overly personal tone. Several suggested i publish the results as currently no online articles cover this in as much depth. I wrote it in Notepad (a *very* rudimentary text editor that comes free on many older computers). I do not have advanced editing programs capable of 'case change'; my system is far outdated and living situation somewhat compromised. Final question before i try again: is there no format on Wikipedia where one can practice with the editor without the potential of being removed? Many thanks again for the help in light of my newbie-naivete. — Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 13:57, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Actually doing the case change took negligible time - just a few clicks - you will see that it is a pretty indiscriminate conversion. Finding that I already had the relevant tool took most of the time! Is your system so out of date that you cannot install OpenOffice? I am still working happily on Windows XP. Avoiding removal: it is a bit messy but: edit in your sandbox to your heart's content; preview as often as you like but do not publish changes; at regular intervals, copy from the Wikipedia edit window into an edit page of a plain text editor like WordPad and save it on your own machine. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

wow, once again i'm humbled then. I'm using Windows 7 and i thought that was outdated. Used XP right up until my old system died and have been trying to go no further than 7 ever since (anything beyond that seems like deterioration). I have a text program but its a free download and has no bells/whistles. I generally use Notepad as its so basic even i can't screw it up. Either way, the case-change you provided was a huge help. If i can come up with something worthy of publication, then i am compelled (possibly legally, definitely morally) to include your name credit under editorial assistance. Thank you again. Dragonboat Ronin (talk) 06:49, 24 November 2019 (UTC)Dragonboat Ronin

request re deleted page
Hi.; I would like to retrieve the text of the deleted article History of the world (2008-present) so that I can save it for myself. Could you please assist? thanks. -- Sm8900 (talk) 14:30, 22 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Fallen Journalists Memorial Foundation
Why was my draft deleted? The last editor said to remove peacock language so I did that by quoting material from the organization's website. I cited many news articles, as this organization has been covered many times over the last six months. That's how it came on my radar; and when I tried to find its Wikipedia page, it did not have one. I don't understand what I am supposed to do. The information I included in the draft is similar to that of other Wikipedia pages I have seen on similar subjects. Since this organization has been covered by many media outlets, since it is going to be responsible for a new monument in the United States capital, and since a lot of notable people are involved, it is curious why you have deleted the page. And I would like a copy of the text of the deleted draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mediaexpert3 (talk • contribs)


 * Learn to provide a link whenever you talk about a page: User:Mediaexpert3/Proposed Title. It is very simplistick of me but when I see an &lt;h1> heading in article I think "spammer who cannot be bothered to learn our standards". I am happy to let you have your text - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Chokh Film Society
Chokh Film Society, Shahjalal University of Science and Technology: This page should not be speedy deleted because this follows the guidelines of Wikipedia Credible claim of significance. This page is falls under the categorization of the pages linked below: Film Society which also redirects to another valid page of that same listing from different institution: Dhaka University Film Society. Please restore the text and page so that other contributors may help building the page with valid references and links. Help me understand what changes to make for the validation of this page. Thank You. Ratuls21 (talk) 11:15, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * New messages go at the bottom of this page and only need one signature. I do not offer you much hope but if you insist, try again via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:33, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Redirect
Hello. This redirect is absolutely incorrect and I have no idea how I put it there few years ago (unfortunately I'm author of it). It's WP:OR (unofficial translation) and even translation is incorrect. — Eurohunter (talk) 14:41, 23 November 2019 (UTC) I mean this. — Eurohunter (talk) 16:23, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I haven't the faintest idea what you are talking about. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * es:Fest i hela huset translates it as "Fiesta in the house" - that is good enough for me to justify a redirect. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Potential restore of File:PoisonIvy23.1.png
Hi RHaworth, I was hoping that you might restore the linked page. I feel that it was speedied in bad faith, as its use for an infobox image was contested. There is a discussion on the article talk page but now users cannot judge between the two potential image choices due to this file's deletion. And yes, I am aware of NFCC policy. — Etzedek24 (I'll talk at ya) (Check my track record) 15:39, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

S Ahmed Meeran
Hi, Why you deleted S Ahmed Meeran Wikipedia page ? The first time it was created it wasn't with proper articles and references but now when I created it was with proper reference and followed all wiki rules.... I want to know the reason why it was deleted! — Monica Yuva Prasad (talk) 08:04, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Try resubmitting it as draft:S. Ahmed Meeran. Apply an AfC tag to it and let it be reviewed. Do not move it to mainspace yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

I have done as directed, please throw your 2 cents on the changes which are needed for it, as you are the one who deleted it. — Monica Yuva Prasad (talk) 08:03, 27 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I don't do draft reviewing. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Google Code-In 2019 is coming!
Hello, Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.

I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org, so we can invite you in! From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community. If you have any questions, please let us know at google-code-in-admins@lists.wikimedia.org.

Thank you! -- User:Martin Urbanec (talk) 21:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

Out of process deletions
You speedily deleted both Convents:Convents of the Catholic Church in South America and Andrea Torrielli, which were at AfD, without specifying any speedy deletion criterion. The first looks like a G6/G7 so deletion was certainly valid, but the reason wasn't specified. For the latter, you closed the AfD after only one day with no valid explanation. Would you care to amend your close? --Michig (talk) 09:02, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


 * This is not just pedantry: it is simply fussiness. You have my full permission to do whatever you want with these titles. I shall not interfere.
 * Laurel Lodged, a case like the convents page did not require an AfD - applying db-author would have got rid of it without fuss. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Please just use the correct criteria for deleting articles, and if you're speedily deleting something that's at AfD, make it clear that you speedily deleted it when closing the discussion. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 12:40, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Narayan Rao Tarale
Hi, why you deleted the page? According to wP:NPOL, members of the legislative assembly are notable. -- S. M. Nazmus Shakib (talk) 19:12, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
 * RHaworth, would you restore Narayan Rao Tarale, which you deleted under CSD A7, please? The article asserted that the subject was a member of a state legislature (backed up with sources), which is a credible claim of significance or importance. Thanks, -- Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:35, 24 November 2019 (UTC)


 * S. M. Nazmus Shakib, take a bit more time with these bios - produce proper pages that look like Wikipedia articles. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Article deleted
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Church_of_St._Nicholas,_Adelaide There was only a small portion that was a direct copy. Why did you flag it for copyright violation and quick deletion? I don't have a copy of the work I did! — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipKhoo (talk • contribs) The bit that you flagged for copyright violations was a quote from the "Relevant Criteria" of the study written with reference under a section of the development act. Which is why I didn't want rewrite it and left it in with a link to the original. It constitutes fair use as it is a government funded study that was quoted for research and scholarship purposes. It was not a copyright violation.
 * Philip, new messages go at the bottom of this page. Use wikilink format not external link format. And point to the right page! Draft:St. Nicholas Russian Orthodox Church has never been deleted. I see that you have just re-created draft:Church of St. Nicholas, Adelaide. I say very firmly that it is not my job to remove copyvio bits from an article. I delete, email the text (read this) and leave the author to re-post with the copyvio removed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

"[You] say very firmly that it is not [your] job to remove copyvio bits from an article." but in fact under the Wikipedia guideline it is the job of the person dealing with the the suspected copyright violations to, "If you have strong reason to suspect a violation of copyright policy and some, but not all (my emphasis), of the content of a page appears to be a copyright infringement, then the infringing content should be removed (ie deleted) with the source url in the edit summary if possible. Revision deletion should then be requested by placing copyvio-revdel on the article page or directly contacting an administrator on their talk page. In the future it would be best to follow the guidelines or leave it to someone who will. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipKhoo (talk • contribs)


 * The stuff you quote is addressed to an editor interested in improving an article with copyvio material. What I was doing was dealing with the "revision deletion should then be requested &hellip;" bit. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

From the 'bit' you are referring to "because the page's history contains significant copyright violations that have been removed in the meantime." it did not contain 'significant' violations and the viloations could have been simply removed and added back in correctly. Either way from the look of your discussion page you are a bit loose with your deletion request powers. Consider giving other users a bit of leeway before you nuke their work - and if you are in any doubt leave it to someone with a more compassion for their fellow users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilipKhoo (talk • contribs) 00:06, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Page restored
Note that I restored User:JohaNepomuk. You deleted it several minutes after I declined the CSD as it was being used as evidence in an SPI and the deletion request was an end run to hide the connection between accounts.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 23:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Arthur N. Applebee
Please explain to me copyright infringement re https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Arthur_N._Applebee. I have worked hard through several revisions to meet the criteria for forming an article for Arthur N. Applebee, as shared with me by various Wikipedia editors. As part of that I have been fastidious in giving sources for biographical material. One of the sources for facts about the life of the subject was the obituary in his local Altamont newspaper. This information is also available in other sources that do not meet Wikipedia's criteria according to previous reviews. I do not believe I was copying any substantial wording from that obituary, but only publicly verifiable information, and I then credited the obituary for this factual material. So if you could explain to me what is improper in this, please let me know so I can fix it. Also could you please send me the text of the deleted draft article as I unwisely did not save a copy. Thank you. Methodical 05:03, 26 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbazerman (talk • contribs)
 * Learn to provide wikilinks. The first sentence of draft:Arthur N. Applebee was a direct copy from this page - the paragraph containing "distinguished professor emeritus". Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:50, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for sending the deleted text  and information about the copied phrasing. I apologize for my carelessness and I have revised the text to remove the difficulty, I hope to your satisfaction, and I have added a bit more detail. How may I resubmit the revised text for approval? — Methodical 16:56, 26 November 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbazerman (talk • contribs)


 * Is it really too difficult for you to learn wikilinks? The title is not (yet) protected so resubmit in the same way that you submitted your first version. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Chidi Ajaere
You deleted the wiki page: Chidi Ajaere for unambiguous advertising. I started a new page and created the drafts for review; But nothing has been done since september. Every advertised contents has been modified. what can i do to ensure it's published again. Thanks for your assistance. -- Femdav (talk) 12:19, 26 November 2019 (UTC)


 * The AfC process is clearly broken. Your page is in category:AfC pending submissions by age/2 months ago which currently contains 600 articles. But Wikipedia is a long term project - just be patient. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Fleishman is in Trouble
Hi, I had submitted the draft:Fleishman is in Trouble as an AfC which you promptly deleted under criteria G11. I was wondering if you could tell me which passages (or lack thereof) struck you as “unambiguous advertising or publicity” so that this does not happen the next time around. If you feel you want the full text you can find it here, where I've reworked the draft to make it hopefully more acceptable. Your feedback would be hugely appreciated. — GinaJay (talk) 05:22, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Feel free to re-submit as a draft. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Delete Tina Akhoondtabar's Article
Hi dear, unfortunately you delete the article of Tina Akhoondtabar. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tina_Akhoondtabar ) I want to know the reason, and how can I fix it to submit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erfan Valizade Shiran (talk • contribs)
 * I have never deleted draft:Tina Akhoondtabar. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

NARU Academy
Hi RHaworth, The page NARU Academy was incorrectly deleted under WP:CSD. In fact, with a Google search, news articles can be found on the Academy. They are a company supporting gender equality through sports and have done a lot for women's rights in general. They have started the first international FC Barcelona Girl's Soccer camp, which can be found here. The company mentioned in the article is NARU Sports in which NARU Academy is one in the same. In addition, another camp ran by NARU Academy was the Hero Girls Camp, which was reported here and here. If more information is needed to restore the page, including TV coverage and more news articles, please let me know. The company deserves a Wikipedia article about its work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameron.Sherry1 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Why do you persistently shout your company's name? Is it an acronym? Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no CoI thinks your company is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:36, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

I am not affiliated with NARU Academy, and I reference the company's name because I don't know the employees or who exactly was responsible for the actions I mentioned. For the sake of simplicity, I repeatedly used the company's name. To address the last part of your statement, I am literally a person who believes that NARU Academy is doing great work for women's rights and gender equality in general. I don't work for a reporting agency, so I figured a Wikipedia page would do better than a comment on Facebook or Yelp. In addition, the page was reported for a lack of notability, which I presented you information to combat this report (that you seem to have ignored). There was no mention of a bias, nor do I think I had included or inferred any in the page, besides what you call "shouting my company's name". If need be, I can use vague pronouns if it will eliminate any indication of bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameron.Sherry1 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


 * I view your "no CoI" claim with the greatest scepticism. Restored to draft:Naru Academy. Clearly it stands zero chance at the moment because it lacks independent evidence of notability. When you think it is ready, click on the "submit" button. Do not move it yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:34, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Can you ban this spammer
I noticed you deleted the user page of User:Lemmy Dukwe but he also spammed his sandbox as well as the Wikipedia Main page talk page so can you ban this spammer please — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:BC82:2300:9C28:82D5:204E:323A (talk) 22:20, 28 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, if he comes back with more spam. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:34, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Conflict of Nations
Hello. I created the Conflict of Nations page, but it was speedily deleted according to the A7 criterion. The speedy deletion template was placed before I put in external references, and the article was speedily deleted even after I provided several third-party articles that were specifically written about the game both on the talk page and on the article itself. According to Criteria for speedy deletion, the A7 criterion "is a lower standard than notability". I had provided multiple independent sources that were solely concerned with the game. I do not believe that my article failed the A7 criterion. Could you tell me on my user page why these third-party articles were not sufficient to prove the notability of the topic and, if possible, restore my article to there? Thank you. -- J (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2019 (UTC) Thank you so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephkim04 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 29 November 2019 (UTC)
 * New messages go at the bottom of this page and we keep the thread in one place. It is article suicide to develop in mainspace. Restored to draft:Conflict of Nations. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:34, 29 November 2019 (UTC)

Request undeletion
Please restore Category:Arizona State Sun Devils beach volleyball players, Category:UCLA Bruins beach volleyball players, Category:USC Trojans beach volleyball players, Category:Pepperdine Waves beach volleyball players, Category:Nebraska Cornhuskers beach volleyball players, Category:College women's beach volleyball venues in the United States and their respective talk pages. The editor who tagged them for deletion under WP:CSD G7 was not the actual creator/author of these categories. — Bennv3771 (talk) 09:55, 30 November 2019 (UTC) These categories were tagged for deletion by an editor who was trying to rename the categories via a cut and paste move. I am requesting that they be undeleted so that they can be WP:HISTMERGE with the renamed categories just as Category:USC Trojans beach volleyball players has been histmerged with Category:USC Trojans women's beach volleyball players. Whether or not the renamed categories should exist can be decided by WP:CFD, but while they still do, their edit history should be preserved. — Bennv3771 (talk) 13:40, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Bennv3771, first you have to convince us that each of these categories is going to be populated and preferably with more than just one or two people. To demonstrate to us, note that it is OK to place Person X in category:Foo even if there is no category:Foo page. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

These are the renamed categories in question: Category:Arizona State Sun Devils women's beach volleyball players, Category:UCLA Bruins women's beach volleyball players, Category:Pepperdine Waves women's beach volleyball players, Category:Nebraska Cornhuskers women's beach volleyball players. — Bennv3771 (talk) 14:05, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Doing histmerges of category pages strikes me as pointless. If you can find another admin willing to restore these pages, they have my full permission to do so. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Page: Truck Lagbe
Hello, a page created by me Truck_lagbe is deleted for "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion". I'm new in wikipedia so kindly let me know what went wrong and how can I resubmit it with required changes. Thanks TL Ronie (talk) 07:21, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Nothing went wrong. You posted a page which was considered spam and it got deleted. I suppose you could try again at draft:Truck Lagbe. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

SAUF Article deletion - Need help.
RHaworth Sir, Thanks for taking time out to read this post. This is regarding the Shree Aniruddha Upasana Foundation article being speedy deleted. I believe the key reason highlighted is promotional article. The article is not intended to promote the SAUF organization. The purpose of creating the Wikipedia article is to make people aware about the organization and its activities so a lot more people can benefit from its services.

Discarding this article as promotional and tagging it for speedy deletion is not aligned with the Wikipedia principles of democracy. If there are content/format changes required, we are welcome to all the suggestions. SAUF has a website which talks about all the work and achievements. https://aniruddhafoundation.com/ We would really appreciate if you can help us to rewrite the article so that many more people all the over the world become aware about SAUF and benefit from its services. — Prasad Chaubal 07:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaubals (talk • contribs)


 * It was an heavy copyvio. Recreate in you own words via AfC, leave it in draft space and submit for review. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Ariel, Israel‎
Hi, I see that you undid my deletion request. FYI: Ariel (city) is not in Israel (it is on the occupied West Bank). Presently there is 0 links to Ariel, Israel‎ (and I cannot see any reason why anyone should need to link to it.) So why not delete it? Huldra (talk) 21:57, 1 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Now at RfD. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Eric Robinson (Record Producer, Mixer)
Hi Roger, I see you requested a speedy deletion for this article Draft:Eric Robinson (Record Producer, Mixer) under a G12. I made a novice error by including this link as a citation. I realized the text from this link already appears verbatim in another citation. Would you consider restoring this article with the improper G12 citation removed? Thanks. --Cordon8 (talk) 08:12, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * @: Out of curiousity did you create Draft:Eric Robinson (Record Producer, Mixer) because I was looking for a speedy notification on your talk page. It also may be the case RHaworth was acting on someone's speedy nomination.  In any event I too would like to see the draft as I have G12 issue before and concerned best practice under WP:DCV may not have been followed.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:31, 2 December 2019 (UTC)


 * What is this rubbish about "including this link as a citation". Including a link is fine. Including text from the target of the link is copyvio. The article was created by Cordon8. The speedy tag was applied by at the same time as declining the draft. OK, Bkissin should have notified Cordon8 but I am not going to criticise them for not doing so. Although PhilipKhoo disagrees with me (see  above), I stick firmly by my view that it is not my job to do partial restores. Text emailed to both of you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:NASLite
? Draft:NASLite g12? g11? : Indirect scummering Arbom candidate ? : Ho hum. Couldn't make it up could we? — 31.50.16.186 (talk) 12:22, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I know you have to rely on the NPP guys before of the amount of work you but I am somewhat minded they are getting a tad trigger happy in Draft? (I was 31.50.16.186 down the line). Ta. Djm-leighpark (talk) 20:18, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * 31.50.16.186's message is incomprehensible and Djm-leighpark's is not much better. Take it to DRV is you insist. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It is at DRV for consideration ... prepping was started at 12:15 and mostly done by the time of this message. Unlucky.  You were sold a dog. — Djm-leighpark (talk) 13:35, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Noted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Switchere.com
Hello, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Switchere.com&action=edit&redlink=1 I got the review deleted due to a speedy tag. I changed the review and deleted all the mentioning that may sound promotional so I'd like to submit it once again. The system message told me to contact you prior creating the new version of the same service review... So, can I submit the new version and that's it or how should I proceed? Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donator777 (talk • contribs) 15:01, 2 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Feel free to re-submit but don't get too hopeful. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:56, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Recently deleted TERROIR_(company)
Hi RHaworth, ref: TERROIR_(company): I have reviewed the criteria for speedy deletion in reference to it and believe that the article complies to Wikipedia&rsquo;s requirements. I am writing for further clarification on which part of this article was considered advertising or promotion. All links were to external reference other than the company. Any assistance would be appreciate or if you could reinstate the page so I can make the necessary improvement in order to comply with your concerns, that would be great. Thank you in advance for your feedback, Annmaree Ainsworth (talk) 02:39, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


 * A syndrome I see from time-to-time where a well-established article gets converted to spam and then deleted. Non-spammy versions restored to Terroir (company). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Green Gold Gourmet Foods Incorporated
Hi, I wrote an article Green Gold Gourmet Foods Incorporated and it has been nominated by AngusWOOF for Speedy deletion due to the submission appearing to "read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed."

To be honest this is my first time writing in Wikipedia that's why I didn't know any other way of writing the article and saving it than publishing it right away. I intend to edit the article but it took me time... by the time I was supposed to rework on it again the article has already been deleted by you. I hope the article be un-deleted; if not please allow me to write the article once again... I also don't mind you can provide me with guidelines on saving the article rather than publishing it right away, and if there are any editing tools we can use before we finally publish it so that it will fit Wikipedia's requirements. -- CMOnineza (talk) 03:31, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I am happy to email you your text - read this. Note that we do not put TM or ® in articles. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Michael O'Dwyer
Hi.. Could you check the editing/editor here? I reverted a recent edit. Whispyhistory (talk) 09:11, 3 December 2019 (UTC)


 * I cannot help agreeing with the strong words Osama Razi used about a person who could call the Amritsar massacre a "correct action". But we don't use them in the way he did so I have applied an admonitory block. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks...it was looking messy and certainly not the correct way of editing. I might do some research on it. Whispyhistory (talk) 18:18, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for Draft:NAS4lite
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Draft:NAS4lite. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Review at Deletion review. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 13:32, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Draft:NAS4lite has never existed and there is no deletion review for it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry for delay spotting this. Draft:NASlite / Deletion review should be the links. WP:TROUT me one for that. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:44, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Belle Delphine
Subject has substantial coverage in reliable secondary sources, as required by general notability guideline. Subject is not required to have sustained coverage after having previously already established notability. Though I can understand why it was deleted back in June, when the article looked like this. There is a draft that appears to have some promise, but needs some sprucing up and the youtube sources removed, replaced with higher quality sources, of which there are plenty. I am contacting you because you were the admin that salted the article title, to politely request that you remove the article title protection, so I can properly move the draft when I see fit to the main space. — Tutelary (talk) 18:12, 3 December 2019 (UTC) Apologies, providing the red link slipped my mind. Thank you so much! Tutelary (talk) 15:26, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You provided several links but not to the page you wanted me to deal with! Someone at the AfD dismissed her as "attention seeking" which is very true. But she has gained a lot of attention from reliable sources so she probably qualifies for an article. Unsalted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:12, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Department of Fi$Cal
Re: Draft:Department of Fi$Cal, please email the deleted text or restore the draft so I may improve. Thank you. Iokevins (talk) 05:06, 4 December 2019 (UTC) Thank you very much for your time <3 — Iokevins (talk) 18:33, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:12, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review for BDB Pitmans
Morning RHaworth. My reason for creating this page was part of greater transparency for UK Parliamentary agents. On that page there are several firms listed, only some of which have wiki pages. I am going about replacing links to external sites with internal wiki pages to ensure the public get a balanced view of these significantly important companies. The BDB Pitmans page was the first, a starter page which I hoped would then be developed by the community. Can you let me know what steps I should take to restore it and what text I should ensure is on there to demonstrate the importance of it? Thanks Hunner75 (talk) 11:46, 5 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Restored to draft:BDB Pitmans. What text? At present the article does not even mention Parliamentary agents! And you must provide independent evidence of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:43, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Deletion review
Hi, this is about the deleted article, I would like to retrieve the text of 'Amjad saqib' so that I can save it for further improvement and correction. Could you please assist? thanks. Jugni (talk) 12:48, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * How do expect me to find the text if you don't provide a link? Text of Amjad Saqib emailed. If you re-submit, do so via AfC and submit it for review. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:43, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Article
Hi, I am a student at Fordham University Roman Art Class doing research on Prima Porta Augustus. This morning you deleted my page with the reason "the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic." However, the contexts I wrote are all scholarly theories that already published and peered reviewed. You might believe that the contexts I wrote are all opinions instead of facts. But please be aware that the archeological founding spots of Prima Porta Augustus, and many other ancient artworks are undefined. Books and scholarly articles offer the knowledge of the potential finding spots; they should be eligible for Wikipedia. If you still believe my page is not eligible, can you please restore my page so that my instructor can have a look, and we will fix whatever it needs? This project is worth 30% of my grade for the class, and I don't have a backup copy. If you insist the page can not be restored, can you please email me the text with all the citation I have included in it?

Also, if you want me to move my writing to my sandbox, it's perfectly fine! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 青巷忧颜 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:青巷忧颜 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 青巷忧颜 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 5 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi! A student's user page was deleted as promotional - I was wondering if I could get it restored so they can work on fixing what was wrong. It's the user page for User:青巷忧颜. I think what caused concern was that they were describing the location where the statue Augustus of Prima Porta was discovered and they used non-neutral wording. It will definitely need some work if they are to move anything live, but I can work on that with them. — Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:05, 5 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Please learn to sign talk page messages with &#126;~ . I cannot see any trace of advertising. I deleted it because it was not the sort of stuff we put on a user page. Restored to User:青巷忧颜/sandbox. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:16, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:04, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Martin Fayomi
Could you please spare some time to review my drafts? An article was deleted by you while composing the article but right now i am done writing. Could you please check this draft out for an approval? Draft:Martin Fayomi. Thank you. -- Goldie19 (talk) 23:02, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't do draft reviewing but I hope you will allow someone who does do reviewing to do so. Ie. do not move the draft yourself. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:16, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the honest feedback, Do you have an idea of someone who does draft reviewing? I have dropped a message for some but haven't gotten a response. Thank you. -- Goldie19 (talk) 14:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)


 * The article has now been reviewed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:58, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Surfbouncer
You deleted Surfbouncer. I restored and moved it to User:Julia759/sandbox as they wanted to work on it. — CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 04:47, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Noted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:16, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Churuwala
User talk:HomeBookingIndia-Churuwala Homes LLP. You may wish to revoke talk page access. -- Cahk (talk) 10:23, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:16, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Un-delete request &hellip; for Draft:Raj&Pablo
Hi, I spent 30+ hours creating a Wiki page draft:Raj&Pablo - my profile is LisaThorne007 - and they took so long to pay me (5 months+) that when the finally did, you'd deleted the article. Can you please un-delete, so I can submit it? Thanks (in hope!), Lisa :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LisaThorne007 (talk • contribs) 15:15, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Lisa, restored under WP:G13. My first reaction was "far too much bold". If you do not make proper paid editing declarations, you are liable to find yourself blocked. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:58, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

User talk:Revathiequipmentwiki
You may wish to revoke talk page access. -- Cahk (talk) 12:07, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Page of Lugano Scherma
Hello. You have been deleted the page of Swiss fencing club Lugano Scherma. The reason is non profit info for Wikipedia. But this Club is home club of World Champion and European Champion Michele Niggeler and Elia Dagani. I kindly ask you to restore the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by A.varfolomeeva.v (talk • contribs) 13:05, 8 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Notability is not inherited. If you can find independent evidence that the club is notable in its own right, re-submit via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Andy Vanags
Hi — You deleted Andy Vanags per CSD G6 and the closed AfD at Articles for deletion/Andy Vanags. But the closure was by a now-indef-blocked user and has been reverted. Do you think the article should be undeleted so the AfD can proceed, or did you want to just close the AfD again? — David Eppstein (talk) 18:57, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for handling this! — David Eppstein (talk) 19:56, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I am not sure why but I first restored Hayden B. Siegel - which was another K6kw crime but which was definitely not worth restoring. Then I did Andy Vanags which is a bit more promising. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:18, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft : Zendyll Records
Dear RHaworth, I would like to know the reason for the deletion of this draft article. I understand that Wikipedia is not a place for unambiguous advertising or promotion and needs to conform to WP:SOAP. However, as this was a draft article and was meant to be improved, I do no see why it has to be deleted. It was also stated as A7. However, I can assure you that the subject I am currently writing about is credible enough to have its own page. It has been talked about on news articles and magazines and has worked with notable companies and people. I've spent the past week working on this article and would really appreciate if you are able to restore it. Thank you! :) Chlchqy (talk) 03:44, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Learn wikilinks. I strongly suspect that you should be making CoI and paid editing declarations. Draft:Zendyll Records restored. Creffett, please allow it to be reviewed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Melania Trump replacement theory
Requesting restoration. Existence of the conspiracy theory clearly not a "blatant hoax" as it is well reported in reliable sources. For example: The Mirror, "There's a conspiracy theory that Melania Trump has been replaced with a body double and it's pretty unsettling"; South China Morning Post, "‘Fake Melania’ conspiracy theory about body double is ‘deranged’, says Donald Trump"; Esquire, "The 'Fake Melania' Conspiracy Theory is Back"; several others were in the draft. Reality of theory itself is irrelevant to whether theory exists (Bigfoot, Atlantis, Moon landing conspiracy theories, New Coke). Hyperbolick (talk) 14:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, it is not a place to build pages about fake news, hoaxes and silly tabloid reporting like what you made there. Govvy (talk) 14:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome
[Title width guide. Delete above here if no further edits - already in archive. If further edits, move below here.]

Contesting speedy deletion of AnyChart page
hello, I created this article about AnyChart (among several other articles I created about JS libaries and other subjects these days) as and consider it to be a legitimate article which cannot be subject to speedy deletion in particular on the basis of G11 according to my understanding. I do not see how the article can be considered exclusively promotional, and moreover, it actually describes the subject from a neutral point of view in my understanding (honestly, I do not have another point of view here as in any other article that I have created so far, only neutral) and, in particular, G11 says that "Any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion." Unfortunately, you and user (by the way, Jaclar0529 have multiple warnings and vandalism claims oh their talk page) did not let me even contest the speedy deletion nomination. I am close to considering the deletion of AnyChart vandalism or error (Update: I am terribly sorry, did not mean it is vandalism, just was afraid it could be, but I am not thinking even like that any more thanks to additional research, thinking, and kind explanations from other editors. Please accept my sincere apologies if that hurt somebody of you guys. — Avbgok (talk) 19:32, 9 December 2019 (UTC)).

Would you be so kind to restore the article as the nomination for speedy deletion and deletion itself seem to be unwarranted and made by mistake. If you feel any edits are needed, I would suggest that we work on improving it together with you and (or) other editors, because that is what Wikipedia is all about as I understand it. Thanks. Avbgok (talk) 11:46, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

For your information, the user who initially placed the G11 tag on the AnyChart article has just replied on my talk page: "The article has already been deleted. I suggest you talk to the deleting administrator, which in this case is RHaworth, as I cannot assist you further. -jaclar0529 (talk) 11:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)" - could you please look into this issue with deleting the AnyChart article again and restore it? That user jaclar0529 even has been warned with "Final warning on vandalizing Wikipedia on their talk page, so the nomination is likely to be just another vandalism attempt from them . Thanks. Avbgok (talk) 12:13, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Lactobacillus_Acidophilus_MPH734
Greetings! I read your notes on creating a wikilink. I am still unsure that I have succeeded though it seems it should look like this: /wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Lactobacillus_Acidophilus_MPH734 or /wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Draft:Lactobacillus_Acidophilus_MPH734 perhaps?

I found a fascinating substance—specifically a bioengineered bacillus—that was absolutely stunning in its functionality. It is capable of completely eliminating the symptoms of lactose intolerance. I performed a significant amount of research to find out all about it, but strangely found nothing at all on wikipedia. Since I had done all the research already, it seemed logical to compose an article about it and share what I had discovered. I waited for a fairly long time and had all but given up receiving a response, but when I looked in today it had been G11'd or "speedily deleted". I am not associated with the company that created it, and have no financial interest in it. At best one might suggest that I have a bit of enthusiasm for it, but the reporting seemed to have been fairly innocuous and even handed, in my point of view.

Maybe you can help me out by indicating where I went wrong? And I'd just like to emphasise that I have absolutely no financial connection to the company; there is no money to be made here. My joie de vie is entirely aimed at sharing knowledge and reducing ignorance. Specifically it was identified by this: RHaworth talk contribs deleted page Draft:Lactobacillus Acidophilus MPH734 (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) — CanadaSFwriter (talk) 18:57, 9 December 2019 (UTC)