User talk:RHaworth/Archive to 2011 Feb 23

Crowdleaks
I'm not sure you saw the references included which would seems to fit exactly the definition of "notability" as per the guidelines. Crowdleaks were implicated in uncovering key aspects of the HBGary/Anonymous/Wikileaks/Bank of America/Chamber of Commerce scandal. Pretty much every news agency in the world has covered the story. The two references I used were the two I felt had the best analysis. Admittedly, the page was a little brief, I was hoping the page would receive more than just my interest and so would be more complete in time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Url w edit (talk • contribs) 03:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC) Fair point. Both references conducted their own (more thorough) investigation into the points Crowdleaks raised. This is what informed my decision to include them. Rather than create an article from scratch, can you e-mail me the mark-up I used please. I'll flesh out the article in a sandbox and submit via the AfC as per your suggestion.Url w edit (talk) 11:59, 23 February 2011 (UTC) Email received! Thanks. Url w edit (talk) 12:10, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Both the refs merely mentioned Crowdleaks briefly. But you could try again via AfC. — RHaworth 10:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Payoneer
I would please like access to a deleted article: Payoneer. I notice the entry has been deleted on numerous occasions for blatant advertising. The company has become more relevant and is linked to by other articles. I have a unbiased, well cited draft that I was hoping you could look at. I have at times served as the editor for Merchant Services: Guides and Directories at the DMOZ open directory project. So, not really a newbie. — Meshatz (talk) 18:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Text e-mailed. — RHaworth 19:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Moss Plastics
Could you send me over or republish the article. It was a work in progress that I was trying to prove notability and relevance by providing a number of links to. I'll keep reworking it and see if I can get it up to standard. Cheers. JLAnchor
 * Sorry, missed this when you initially posted it. Text e-mailed. — RHaworth 17:35, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, appreciate it. (JLAnchor (talk) 20:59, 18 February 2011 (UTC))

Aspen Network of Development Entrepreneurs
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++++ delete above here if no further edits – already in archive. If further edits, move below here.

Nic Hess
Hello, I was wondering why this article has been deleted. There are artists that are ranked lower in artfacts.net, that had less international exhibitions and are less well-known. So I was wondering what the key factor is, to allow people putting up artist biographies? I am an art historian and curious, because I like to update some of the contemporary artist sections, where there is no info to be found yet. Thank you for getting back at this. Sincerely, Richard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardDeiss (talk • contribs)
 * There was a lack of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I suspect that who posted the article, is not entirely free from COI. I note that an Hassan Sharif is exhibiting at the Abu Dhabi International Sculpture Symposium. As to your claim that "I like to update some of the contemporary artist sections". Your contributions history does not confirm this! My cynical new page patroller's mind suggests that you may simply be a sock puppet of HasnaSharif. I suggest that you actually build up a track record for yourself of edits to existing articles. Then, if you attempt to re-instate the Nic Hess article you should savagely reduce the lists of awards and exhibitions to ones where the award or the exhibition location already has a Wikipedia article and you should provide references. — RHaworth  09:47, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

You are right, this is my account – Hasna Sharif, I didn't have a Wikipedia account before and now, that I am in the United Arab Emirates I wanted to post something about middle eastern artists as well – and be surprised – Hassan Sharif, was the first person I wanted to add, because he is really famous here in the Middle East and also had a lot of exhibitions in Europe ( also at the Biennial in venice). That is what inspired me to use this Alias. As for the Nic Hess article, I was very surprised to find it deleted because it just contained basic information and it is perfectly relevant information as well – which is proved by the link possibilities below:

Simon Lamunière already visible : those of Jerôme Leuba, Sylvie Fleury , Dominique Gonzalez-Foerster , Christian Jankowski , Sislej Xhafa and Nic Hess. ... 4 KB (507 words) – 12:51, 11 February 2011 Light art Jérôme Leuba (Geneva), Christian Jankowski (Germany), Dominique Gonzalez-Foerster (France), Sislej Xhafa (Kosovo) et Nic Hess (Zurich). ... 8 KB (1,150 words) – 21:15, 11 February 2011 Klaus Biesenbach Exhibitions : Nic Hess: Dolly II (2000) Jordan Crandall: Drive, Track 1 (2000) Sencer Vardarman: Corridors (2000) John Isaacs: A Necessary ... 18 KB (2,445 words) – 15:40, 22 January 2011

But if this doesn't seem serious or honest enough to edit and contribute to wikipedia, I can't help it. Do you block people with a European IP Address also this quickly? Thank you for your quick reply and your detailed explanation of the matter. I do know how IP addresses from other parts of the world can make the seriosity appear little and I accept that. I do not have a VPN Tunnel here, so if my IP looks odd, then I just have to accept to post again, when I am back in Europe. Again thank you so much for the detailed information. Best Regards, Richard — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardDeiss (talk • contribs) 12:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you actually read my message? The Nic Hess article was deleted because it did not contain the basic information of external links. As to your link possibilities, if you cannot be bothered to create them as actual links, then I am not going to follow them. Access to IP address information is, for some reason, only allowed to a very select group of people and I am not one of them. Are you trying to say that you have found access blocked from the UAE. If so, I suggest you enquire at WP:VPT giving as much detail as you can. I can see no evidence of blocks being applied from the Wikipedia end before now. But now I have blocked . Please stick to RichardDeiss. — RHaworth 12:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Dear RHaworth,

Thank you for the constructive feedback. This is [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=Nic+Hess the link] with the name mentioned in Wikipedia.

And then decide for yourself. When I first entered the Article it was deleted before I was able to link it to the pages..sry Thanks so far, Richard — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardDeiss (talk • contribs) 13:44, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

--- ah okay I see, external links – sure. ok make sure it has them next time. You can also delete the hasna sharif account — Preceding unsigned comment added by RichardDeiss (talk • contribs) 13:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Burl S. Watson

 * See this discussion and this one.

Thanks for doing that. I am his great-grandson. Yes. I will work on figuring out how to upload the picture. I am running into all kinds of licensing issues, it seems. I didn't think it would be this difficult. TomWatsonB (talk) 07:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Rename done – it did require admin rights. Excellent. What we need now is: action on the orphan tag and a photo. Come on admit it: you are a grandson or similar – it is COI but not serious enough to annoy me. So a picture from the family album? — RHaworth 10:41, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Noted. Please learn to copy wiki text from edit box to edit box. [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ARHaworth&action=historysubmit&diff=413067495&oldid=413067454 This edit] was needed because you had copied rendered text into an edit box. — RHaworth 22:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Quido
I created a page for Quido since it was in demand that a lot of people wanted to know about this new artist. It is my first time at this and so there is no doubt that I am a novice. What seems to be the problem? I got the information from sources the artist himself. So if any explanation could be given for its speedy deletion. I would just like to know what it takes then for an article or biography to be kept on Wikipedia? I even got newspaper writers to look through the io and they approved of its composure.
 * I don't talk to IP addresses. — RHaworth 00:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Apologies, so then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Q da Hustle (talk • contribs) 02:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What is "io"? Why on earth ask newspaper writers? This is an encyclopedia. Find four articles already here about rappers, read them closely and tell me how they differ from your submission. — RHaworth 09:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

File:Mikey Dread 2003.jpg
I notice that you deleted this, and yet it is still there. Can you explain? Did I screw up in some way? Wwwhatsup (talk) 03:44, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * And do you see beneath it: "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. ". — RHaworth 09:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Brittany Dawn Brannon
Hi, I hope you don't mind but I've restored Brittany Dawn Brannon as I was declining the speedy whilst you deleted it. I wouldn't have blinked at a BLPprod tag but A1 seemed odd to me – she does seem to have won that contest.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers 10:01, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Red Light Management
I received my first speedy deletion nomination today (for an article on Red Light Management I'd started). I followed the instructions, justifying the page in terms of musicology & awaited administrator input (esp' in terms of targets & urgency). Instead, its been unceremoniously deleted, judged Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Its very disheartening that hours of my work have been junked. However, the reason "unambiguous" stated is downright insulting, implies my case was obvious lies – Not so!

I've been been editing here for over six years (mostly corrections / updates / elaborations). It seems iconic that, a few days ago, I donated (to help ensure reliable edit-submission, i.e. saving me time) – then, a few edits later, hours on my time are trashed. I would like to learn from this experience & given the topic's worthy – How might I have approached the article's creation more acceptably? - Ian DjScrawl 21:16, 10 Feb 2011 (UTC)
 * And apparently in those six years you have somehow not learned the need for links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. What on earth have targets or urgency got to do with anything? Hours of work! What do you mean? When we strip out the list of names – which we do not need, we are left with two sentences! What to do? Find a few article already here about music publishers. Study them and write a proper article. Leave out the list of names – link to it on the company's website. And above all provide the proper references. To be on the safe side, resubmit via AfC. — RHaworth 22:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response.
 * Content: All facts were cited w/ by "coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources" & I thought it sufficiently significant to justify them.
 * Targets or urgency do with anything? As in: Advice on what state the article was to reach, & within what period, in order to be saved from deletion.
 * Approach: With other wikis, I've written on, the ethos is more release early, release often. Having not created a page here for years, this experience seems to've show that defensiveness has, sadly, driven Wikipedia away from that, toward a more knee-jerk governance – C'est la vie.
 * Re-Try: Thanks for the pointers. I had briefly tried, & failed, to find other music management co's to 'cookie-cut' – they seem a rare breed here – publishers & labels seems a good alternate. AfC is new to me & will look into it.
 * List of 80+ Music Brands: Yes, as stated in article talk, I'd already stripped-out 25% of the list (that seemed to have no Wikipedia page). True, the list seems unwieldy, esp' while the body of the article's so embryonic. How about further reducing to a couple-dozen, most well known? DjScrawl 22:52, 10 Feb 2011 (UTC)
 * What did Scrawl mean by 'hours of work'? Normally, I'd mean something between 90 m & 6h. I this case, being miffed, I may've laboured the point – However, looking back: I negligible work but to research / write the article from a 15:26 Decemberists edit & 17:26 (when the article became a plagiarism suspect). Thus, more precisely, well over 90 min's (not inc' ensuing tailspin). DjScrawl 10:20, 11 Feb 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think getting stuff into Wikipedia has got tougher over those six years, but, I would claim, it is that toughness that has put Wikipedia into the top ten websites. Timescales to improve an article – if it is in the (article) namespace with a speedy tag then you have a couple of hours if you are lucky. That is why you should always work in user:DjScrawl/sandbox where you have all the time you need. List of "music brands" – I would say cut it down to no more than ten of the most notable. — RHaworth 23:56, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * RERO Loves Sandbox: Thanks again. The sandbox is seems a definite way-ahead. The Last.FM wiki is much more sandbox-ish & has stat's readily available to make client notoriety determinations. Thus' I may 'sandbox' there, in prep' for sandboxing here. DjScrawl 10:49, 11 Feb 2011 (UTC)

Yolande Ardissone
Please let me know why you deleted the new page of artist Yolande Ardissone. Thank you. It took us some time today to start this page. regards, Stephane — Preceding unsigned comment added by Decleorohmy (talk • contribs) 10:05, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Who are "us"? It was deleted for a total lack of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Your e-mail address, the initial copyvio, etc. lead me to suspect that you are an art dealer selling Yolande's works. You therefore have a COI and we would prefer you to wait until someone with no COI writes about her. I suggest that you first create fr:Yolande Ardissone. Such an article is no guarantee of acceptance here – the non-English wikis are generally far more lax than this one. But if the fr: article survives for a month, come back here and raise the matter at deletion review. — RHaworth 11:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Source of Medway
All corrected now. Mjroots (talk) 15:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Independent Living Foundation
I am a student at aitchison college in pakistan in lahore. I am new to the Wikipedia life, i would like to discuss with u regarding the deletion of page tt i created it was ILF – Independent Living Foundation why did you delete this page? what were the reasons? and if they were sinister please help me solving them. — Ahmed khan 016 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmedkhan016 (talk • contribs) 08:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Simple reason: total absence of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I suggest: build up a track record for yourself of edits to existing articles – whenever we see a new article by a new user, we automatically suspect spam. Improve the article especially adding those indep. refs. Resubmit at Independent Living Foundation (which already has an incoming link) with a link from ILF. — RHaworth 09:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Evelyn Rutnam Institute for Inter-cultural studies
I was in the middle of some expansion and citing when my edit screen told me it was deleted. I do not know why the fellow who contested the speedy did not atate a reason on its talk page, but I think I can use the one found news source, and the several book sources to show notability. Might you restore so I can continue work?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:02, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Wow. Quick. And thanks. I'll see if I can make this one suitable.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup. Sandbox is safer for comtinued work. Appreciated.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:06, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors mentors page
If you're still interested in being a mentor this term, please add your profile to Online Ambassadors/Mentors. If you have any questions about the ambassador role or what you're interested in doing as an Online Ambassador (whether mentoring, pitching in in other ways, or something else), please let me know.--Sage Ross – Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 17:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

EFactor deleted page
I have edited the EFactor.com page to create a neutral tone with additional references. This is not a promotional page but an information source that defines what EFactor.com is to its members. If you have any recommendations for editing please let me know. - Best, Alexandria Garcia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allyg1213 (talk • contribs) 20:23, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Why e-mail you? You should expect the reply here. No great improvement. I suggest you wait until someone with no COI thinks it is notable and writes about it. — RHaworth 20:41, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Geograph
Hi, Thanks for this tool that I didn't know. I'll use it for the next times. Best regards. Rémih (talk) 16:16, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

The 2.0 Adoption Council
I am unclear why you removed The 2.0 Adoption Council in favour of 2.0 Adoption Council given that the former is the official name of the organization in question. Dpritchett (talk) 00:44, 16 February 2011 (UTC) How do I trigger a review now that I've added notable content to the article? I notice you reflagged it despite the substantial new content added since the original flagging. Is the current content lacking in some way? Daniel Pritchett (talk) 01:28, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Do not remove speedy delete tags from an article you have created. If and when someone else removes the speedy tag, feel free to move the article. — RHaworth 00:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I have triggered the review by applying the speedy tag. An admin will either remove the tag or agree with me and delete the article. I feel that the references are still rather thin. And one is always suspicious when an editor's first contribution is something like this. One always suspects COI. I note the curious fact that you have waited three years to make your first edit! I also note this at Sharing at Work. — RHaworth 02:11, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth I've made plenty of copy edits to the site in the past but never as a logged-in user. The only reason I logged in today was because I couldn't figure out how to create a new page otherwise.  It's unfortunate that you feel cynical about the motives of new posters; hopefully some of us manage to find appropriate ways to contribute to the site.  With regards to a potential COI and your googling of my relationship to the Council, I usually post under my name and my status as a proud member of the Council is purposefully public most anywhere I've published online.  The council does not pay its members by any direct means but as a member of this professional organization I certainly benefit from the Council's name recognition.  If this constitutes a COI by Wikipedia guidelines, so be it.  May your editing days be free from discord and full of productive edits. dpritchett (talk) 04:16, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Template:Noinclude
Recently, you deleted Template:Noinclude under WP:G4. Although the criteria does apply in this case, the rationale given at the cited deletion discussion does not (see what links here). Therefore, I'd like to request undeletion. (Failing that, I intend to take it to WP:DRV). -- N Y  Kevin  @903, i.e. 20:40, 16 February 2011 (UTC) Yes I have. The rationale for deletion was that the template was old and unused (and "[did] not function correctly"). That is no longer the case; it is used in Template:Wormhole. I took that to WP:VPD and got a reasonably positive response. I've reread G4 a little more closely, and it appears to explicitly exclude "pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies". Therefore the deletion was against policy. I really want to minimize drama, and I feel that asking you to undelete it will be less dramatic than DRV. But if you really won't undelete it, I suppose we'll be going to DRV... -- N  Y  Kevin  @710, i.e. 16:01, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * DRV then. Have you read the deletion discussion? — RHaworth 20:52, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What a lot of fuss. What is preventing you simply re-creating it? To protect it from re-deletion, add messages in the edit summary, as an HTML comment and on the talk page. — RHaworth 17:26, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Opinions Needed
Would you mind going to Articles for deletion/Abbotts Mill, Delaware and commenting with your opinion on the deletion I proposed? As a frequent contributor to small towns and communities, I thought you may have some expertise that could help with determining whether Abbotts Mill, Delaware is a community or not. Thanks for your time. Superman7515 (talk) 02:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Model Airplane Collectors
I was just curious as to why my article Model Airplane Collectors was deleted.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Theairplanekid (talk • contribs)
 * There is no need to waffle. It was deleted for a lack of references to reliable sources outside the narrow world of scale model enthusiasts. If you think you can establish the site's notability, use the text I have e-mailed you to create a draft in user:Theairplanekid/sandbox, get the approval of, who tagged it for deletion and then re-submit via AfC. — RHaworth 14:08, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Windmill coords
I've looked at a few, the only problem I can see is that the coords have been changed from degrees, minutes and seconds to decimal degrees, such as in [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=St_Martin%27s_Mill,_Canterbury&diff=prev&oldid=414478347 this edit] to St Martin's Mill, Canterbury. The display of grid ref and coords in the infobox itself is good. Mjroots (talk) 05:58, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Display of coords as dms is something that should have been abandoned with the fall of Babylon or at least with the abandonment of £sd. But that is the great thing about templates, if you want dms, then just add  at the appropriate points in infobox windmill. I shall be disgusted but I won't revert it. You can also add something to your personal css to get dms just for you – read this. (It's also duplicated on the geographical coordinates project page.) — RHaworth  18:08, 18 February 2011 (UTC) [bit about personal CSS changed 12:02, 21 February 2011 (UTC)]

Ronald Joseph Radke
Hello. I see you deleted the Falling in Reverse page because it did not have any significance. I agree. However and article was made for the lead singer of that band who has no real importance or notability on his own to sustain his own article and constantly revert the edits but I am being attacked by a fan girl who not only gives unreliable sources but also stalked my youtube and facebook giving links out to my page telling people to bad mouth me. I really don't know what to do. I keep reverting her edits, but she keeps reverting mine. I am here to request you delete the page Ronald Joseph Radke. Or (perhaps more effective) lock it so she cannot continue to keep adding to an article which has no place being there. I have redirected the page to Escape the Fate cause that was the only significance the person had and it was only related to that particular group yet this girl doesn't seem to get it. The user is User:Marissac95. Her account was made just to make that article. I would also like for her to be banned for harassment but I think that's a little to far so I can't blame you if you refuse to that. So that's my case. i would really appreciate your help :). - User:D33deed33guy —Preceding undated comment added 18:16, 20 February 2011 (UTC).

I appreciate you locking the page. Thank you so much, however can you please set it as a redirect to Escape the Fate? as I said, there person alone is not worthy enough for his own article User:d33deed33guy  —Preceding undated comment added 19:08, 20 February 2011 (UTC).
 * Someone reverted Ronald Joseph Radke five seconds before my protect went in! I am not going to get into an edit war over this. I suggest you send the article to WP:AfD and discuss with who does not leave uncivil messages. — RHaworth  19:26, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Shri Krishna Saraswati
I wonder why this page was deleted. Articles of similar saints (e.g. his guru Swami Samarth Maharaj) exists on Wiki. May I request you to reconsider and restore? Das krishnadas (talk) 03:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC) I do not know much about wiki editing but I would like to state that Krishna Saraswati was a great saint in tradition of Lord Dattatreya. 1.Shripad Shri Vallabha 2.Narasimha Saraswati 3.Swami Samarth followed by Krishna Saraswati. The 2 pictures added are scans of very old (taken before 1900) and copyright free. I had put 2 websites also as references and list of meditation centers. I plan to put life and work information in due course of time. I request you to restore the article. Thanks, Das krishnadas (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 15:48, 21 February 2011 (UTC). Thanks Roger. I will go through AFC. I am not much familiar with, so i will have to read carefully. Meanwhile may i request you to email me my article, so I can then use and develop it further? Das krishnadas (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:15, 22 February 2011 (UTC).
 * There was a shortage of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Provide proper references and re-submit via AfC. Incidentally, when we upload images: a) we give them proper source and licence details, eg. File:Swami Shri Krishna Saraswati1.jpg is probably public domain, but you must state that clearly and b) we use them as thumbnails as here. — RHaworth 10:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * So, if the images are old, state that as the source and apply a PD licence tag. Did you actually see "re-submit via AfC" above? Text e-mailed. — RHaworth 19:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you actually see "text e-mailed" above? — RHaworth 01:44, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes i got the email. thanks --Das krishnadas (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:42, 22 February 2011 (UTC).

V '97
We're back with more than ever. We're gunning for Glory.Vbruin (talk) 10:20, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Better add a { {hang on} } to the Voorschoten '97 page. Before it is undeservedly deleted. Thanks :) Vbruin (talk) 10:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Safra Project
Why did you delete Safra Project and other article about gay organizations? Hope you are not a homophobic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DoveOfLove (talk • contribs) 15:53, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * No independent refs even though the article had been around for four years. That tells me it is not notable. What other gay articles have I deleted? No, I am not homophobic, ducky. — RHaworth 19:05, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
 * This is a fun video that mentions ducks. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMYN4djSq7o --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

GNU Radio
Ankitgoyal228 isn't an accout that I am using. Me (Weissalissa), Ankit Goyal and Sonal  Gare working as interns on GNU Radio and have independently submitted our work as open source. Weissalissa (talk) 13:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Noted. And I repeat: your stuff goes on your own website not here. — RHaworth 14:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Westbury Rugby Club
This was my first attempt at contributing. I believe this article should remain. It is notable for two reasons.

1) it is the first rugby club in the history of the town and explains how it came into being

2 it details the positive social aspects of a developing community and the cycle through education into adulthood. The whole philosophy of western society.

(501 not out (talk) 13:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC))
 * Reason 1) is not strong enough and 2) is just pretentious waffle. Amateur clubs are almost always deemed not notable enough. You can try deletion review but don't expect much joy. — RHaworth 14:21, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

(501 not out (talk) 19:54, 23 February 2011 (UTC))
 * 1) Other amatuer clubs are on wikipedia: North Dorset Rugby Football Club
 * 2) Is a small market town in West Wiltshire and scoietal values really pretentious ?
 * 3) the article is factual and of historical interest – maybe not to you?
 * 4) This existing wikipedia link North Dorset Rugby Football Club talks about Westbury Rugby Club. Dorset and Wilts Vase North Dorset have won the vase 4 times in recent years. 2002/2003 season beating Westbury in the final.
 * 5) RHaworth's answers are all worth a read for their comedy value!
 * I repeat: pretentious twaddle – it was about a rugby club – where did it say anything about: "detailing the positive social aspects of a developing community and the cycle through education into adulthood". I also repeat: you can try deletion review. Refreshing to have my style described as amusing rather than anything worse. Even I do sometimes wonder whether I am coming in too strong but as I say on my my user page, I believe I remain within the bounds of parliamentary language. — RHaworth 20:06, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Icelantic speedy
LOL -- you missed. :-) I added one ref, but probably not enough to save it. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

scam question
I received an e-mail from the bbc stating I won $300,000 and a trip to london from an Elizabeth Meyers. Is their any truth to this that the BBC is running a promotional something and does this person Elizabeth work their John ****** —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.212.175 (talk) 15:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)


 * RH doesn't talk to IP addresses, nor does he have any involvement with promotional or personnel activities at the BBC I imagine, but I would suggest that what you describe sounds almost certain to be a scam of some sort. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:55, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Team SpaceMETA
1-I received an alert from Google talking that SpaceMETA is inside an wikipedia article here: Google Lunar X Prize

2-I went there and click on SpaceMETA, and it was a broken link.

3-So, I decided to contribute and writing something about SpaceMETA

I saw you have deleted the Team SpaceMETA page. I would like to ask you to undelete this article based on this premisses above. Otherway I really cant understand why we are in one article in a link format and we cannot fill the page created by wikipedia automatically. Thanks Guy, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergio123cabral (talk • contribs) 15:50, 22 February 2011 (UTC) I disagree with you. We are talking about innovation, so how innovation can have a lot of reference before ? Don't make sense your position. I insist to you undelete the post. Please Remember: Wikipedia was the first to talk about SpaceMETA, AND, your system created automatically the link Team SpaceMETA. I will not stay here trying to convoke you about it. You just need to be reasonable and remember: Innovations don't have any previous reference. If you cannot support it, I think that you are transforming wikipedia in the old Barsa Encyclopedia. One more time, kindly undelete our post. About a better English, unfortunately we live global times, and language and way of expression is always changing, so I will accept you nice advisor but I will not change my way of write. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergio123cabral (talk • contribs) 02:39, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The article was deleted for a total lack of links to significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. I suggest: get someone with a better grasp of English and Wikipedia style (we link to the project's website once, not six times!) to help you re-write it. Then re-submit via AfC. Text e-mailed. — RHaworth 20:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

BTW, just to know that your criteria is confuse, go to the page reference and click on the first Team on the big table ,,, you will arrive at Odyssey Moon ,,,, exactly with the same spirit and level of value of my initially proposed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergio123cabral (talk • contribs) 02:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC) Ok, you win guy. thanks for your attention. I will not insist. Maybe you are right, this Theme maybe not important. Bye forever ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergio123cabral (talk • contribs) 03:01, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Insist as much as you like! Our system most certainly did not automatically create the link – see the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Google_Lunar_X_Prize&action=historysubmit&diff=414505159&oldid=411794481 edit history]. Has it not occurred to you that writing the article in good English might improve its chances of survival? As to Odyssey Moon, other stuff exists is never a valid argument. I repeat, you can try AfC but it is probably better to wait until the project has received more attention. — RHaworth 10:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Boldre Working Mens Club – deleted
Hi, you deleted the page Boldre Working Mens Club today and I was wondering if you could send me the deleted text, or perhaps send me what you would be happy to post, and then I'll start to add with other information. Unless you think its not worth it/suitable for wiki and I'll just drop it. I have unlocked my email address so you can mail me. – Edwardbairstow (talk) 16:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)edwardbairstow
 * Text e-mailed but I definitely think it is unsuitable for Wikipedia. How many other WMCs have articles here? — RHaworth 20:14, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

groups of students in need of mentors
Hey Roger. One of the classes working with the Wikipedia Ambassador Program, Jonathan Obar's Media and Telecommunication Policy, is working in small groups and would like us to assign a mentor to each group (rather than having students request the mentors they'd like, as other classes are doing).

I invite you to sign on as the mentor for one or more groups, especially if any of the topics catch your interest. To sign up, go to the course page and add yourself as "Mentor: you" in the section for that group. They students and/or professor or campus ambassadors should be cleaning things up soon to list all the usernames for each group and add a few more groups. Once you know who the students are in the group, you can leave them each a quick introduction to let them know you'll be mentoring their group.

Thanks!--Sage Ross – Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 19:13, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Douglas Wemyss Solicitors
This message was written on an invalid live article page called Douglas Wemyss Solicitors prefix:User talk:RHaworth (currently tagged for CSD); I have copied it over to this talk page. I think it is regarding Douglas Wemyss Solicitors  Chzz  ► 23:54, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

On 30 November 2010, at 14:09 you deleted an article I made called Douglas Wemyss Solicitors giving the following rationale: (A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

I have recreated this article in a userpage: User:AndriLimma/Douglas Wemyss Solicitors. I feel I have addressed your feedback and established the significance you felt was lacking. Could you take a look and give me your feedback and guidance. Regards and thanks, AndriLimma — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndriLimma (talk • contribs) 23:35, 22 February 2011 The Evington Post may not look fancy but it is a local newspaper. Anyway it is only a supplementary source so I'm removing it. Apart from that, do you think the page is good enough to be published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndriLimma (talk • contribs) 07:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I am not entirely impressed by your references. I doubt whether the Evington Echo could be counted a notable, reliable source! But you can see what the folks at AfC think about it. — RHaworth 01:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Personally, I would say why are solicitors more notable that thousands of other local companies? But I have to admit that we have articles about them. I repeat, try AfC. — RHaworth 10:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Gonabit page
I re-read over the wiki guidelines and I was not writing anything that could be considered advertising...I merely copied the form of the sister company's web page. I live in dubai and this company has been very news worthy lately...I would really like to continue contributing to wikipedia...can you please tell me how to make this page live.....I will edit it and repost it. Thanks, DREW — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewskimillmills (talk • contribs) 10:44, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You have definitely gone a bit too far – it was blatant advertising. Has it crossed your mind that the word "our" in an article is sufficient to condemn it to speedy deletion? — RHaworth 10:53, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Swami Karmveer deleted
Dear Rhaworth, I had created a page for Swami Karmveer who is the most authentic and learned Yoga Guru in India in present days. You will not find much about him on net because he’s a true saint and keep a distance from media or any kind of promotion. I, and several others, strongly believe that he’s a person of significance. Would you please let me know what more I could do to make you believe it too. With regards, Shabischon (talk) 13:09, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * What could you do? Wait until decent evidence of his notability is published. — RHaworth 13:17, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Dennis Crommett
Dennis Crommett was started and then listed for speedy deletion, and was in turn, deleted. I work at Signature Sounds Recordings, the label that is releasing Crommett's upcoming 2011 album. We would like to have a page about him. He is listed in the Winterpills article, and it would be great to have a link to his name, telling a bio about his music career and solo work. How do we go about getting this page back up and keeping it listed? Thanks. Allie Signature Sounds  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alliesignaturesounds (talk • contribs) 16:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Blatant if nothing else. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks the guy is notable and writes about him here. — RHaworth 16:24, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

request copy of deleted article
Hi, you deleted Wales House (Minneapolis, Minnesota), an article which i had created and/or edited. I think this was upon speedy-deletion nomination by editor User:Elkman, given notice to User talk:Doncram.

I am not sure but I believe it was an article about a NRHP-listed place. Could you please provide a copy to me so that I may consider revising and restoring it to mainspace. Thanks, -- do ncr  am  18:49, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Re-instated to User:Doncram/sandbox. An editor with your experience should know better than to create such a stubby article! I assume that it is out of choice that you have never applied for admin rights. — RHaworth 19:01, 23 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Oh, yeah, i recall that one, and i agree with its removal, if anyone objected (which Elkman did).  I thought there was going to be more to say about it, but found after i started with it that there was not.  I was disappointed too.  Yep, never applied.  It is inconvenient sometimes not to be able to see a deleted article like this one, that is one good reason to seek adminship. -- do  ncr  am  00:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Brilliant Failures article
Dear sir, you just deleted my article on the Institute of Brilliant failures. You mention that this is promotion. However, the Institute is fully ooen source and non-profit. I created the article because many people want to know more about it and we have been interviewed recently by a couple of news media, like BBC World Radio. This gave me the idea to put it on the Wikipedia in the hooe that many people will enjoy and learn from it. I regret that you have interpreted it as a 'selling attempt' which it is not. I am professor in open innovation and particularly interested in crowd sourcing, so I am a bjt disappointed about this first experience as an editor with Wikipedia. If you have suggestions to improve the text, I will be happy to learn from it and make changes. Kind regards, Paul Iske —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.170.81.142 (talk) 23:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * It is already stated twice on this page that I don't talk to IP addresses. You are a typical single-purpose account. Only here to promote one thing. You have proved your point admirably, you are a failure at learning Wikipedia conventions. As I have said countless times, wait ; when your institute becomes notable, someone with no COI will write about it here. — RHaworth 23:16, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Richard F. Edlich
Very highly notable, and sources available. i removed the prod tag & asked the author to rewrite--if they do not do so promptly, I shall, for this bio is worth the trouble. I tend not to rewrite obvious copypaste for barely notable figures, but try to do one or two a week for the most important.  DGG ( talk ) 00:11, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Please undelete my article
I create a page titled "TONNY RUTAKIRWA" and I found it deleted in speedy deletion.Since I'm new I make accidently by placing spam tag on my own article.I try to delete the tag and finally found the article was deleted. It was my mistake and I hope the page will be undeleted as soon as possible.

Please undelete my article
I create a page titled "TONNY RUTAKIRWA" and I found it deleted in speedy deletion.Since I'm new I make accidently by placing spam tag on my own article.I try to delete the tag and finally found the article was deleted. It was my mistake and I hope the page will be undeleted as soon as possible.FIRELORD767 (talk) 02:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)