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Happy editing! Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 21:54, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Spanish Armada
Just read your alterations. Thanks for your Dutch information. The English expedition to the Netherlands in 1585 was led by the Earl of Leicester, Elizabeth's ageing favourite; she could appear to disown the practice of English buccaneering, but not a military campaign under his command and paid for by her own treasury - I think your point needs revision. Thanks also for banishing some American spellings (I'm not opposed to all of them); the W'pedia policy, I understand, is for Americans to refrain from butting in when the article deals with an historical subject outside the American 'sphere of influence' - but what heed do they pay, charging all over the place (like feckin' Spaniards)?--shtove 23:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Amber
So if turnpikes are not your period perhaps the following is. Step out of Lincs for a moment and look at Amber in British place names originally posted as Burnham Market. Is it sound? I know about Dunwich but have any Burnhams disappeared under the sea? The massive PDF, by the same author, to which it links has the feel of pseudo-science to me especially when I see Madame Blavatsky mentioned. -- RHaworth 14:43, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)


 * In such matters it is wise to be cautious but I try to keep my mind just a little open, for reasons I may come back to. I have not had time to read it and the all website quoted, still less to think much about it. However, I become suspicious when I see that he calls amber Brandstein and goes on to interpret its meaning. My German dictionary, which is fairly bulky, comes up with only the one basic word, Bernstein. This sort of distortion seems to imply wishful thinking. However, the writer may be German and have an insight into one of the dialects. More later. (RJP 16:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC))


 * Don't criticise the article because of brandstein (there is plenty else for which criticise it). In fact it was I who added brandstein in German - a Google search for amber+brandstein led me to this page or Google's cached version which appeared to offer the alternative spelling. I used that spelling to help justify his associating Brancaster with amber. We are talking "germanic" here rather than modern German. The "bran" stem still exists in modern German as in verbrannt and in English as in branding cattle. I will leave it to Johannes.Richter who is almost certainly German to sort it out. -- RHaworth 17:37, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

See Talk:Amber in British place names concerning the Burnham, Brancaster and Bremenium parts of the argument. (RJP 09:08, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC))

Boston, England
Thank you for your hard work on improving the Boston, England article! Zerbey 15:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Who are you, anyway? A local historian? I've been going through my local Boston books trying to figure out which one... Zerbey July 2, 2005 07:37 (UTC)

What dogs breakfast? :) If you mean my removal of the link at the top, see the peer review. Cheers, Zerbey July 3, 2005 21:01 (UTC)

It's the only nitpick the guy had, I say reinstate it. Zerbey July 3, 2005 21:59 (UTC)
 * There.. that follows the Wikipedia manual of style. Zerbey July 3, 2005 22:07 (UTC)

Apart from the one silly nitpick, no one seems to have any suggestions one way or the other about Boston. I'll give it another week, then put it on the FAC page and see how it goes. Since about 90% of the article is now your work, do you have any objections? Zerbey July 6, 2005 00:18 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, we'll see what else happens on the peer review (from experience, usually it brings a few knowlegeable people out of the woodwork to help out with the article!). You're right that it's mostly historical content, I haven't lived in Boston for 7 years now so beyond what my family tells (eg, the occasional Boston Standard) me I don't know much about the more recent history. I'll do some research and see what I can come up with. We also need references, I'll get mine coallated and added. Zerbey July 6, 2005 16:13 (UTC)

English Civil War
You got taken in by one or more vandals who have consistently and regularly vandalised the ECW page. The best thing to do is look at the history and if the last person to contribute was an IP address, check the diffrences and revert if necessary. I hope that the reinstalled first paragraph meets with your approval -- Philip Baird Shearer 7 July 2005 20:09 (UTC)

Machine Gun Corps
I am sorry if I upset you with the edit I made to the MGC page. Your contribution struck me as somewhat convoluted with too many sub-clauses, and I much prefer "potential" over "potentiality". According to my copy of Collins English Dictionary, both are nouns with identical meanings. Therefore I chose the word with three syllables over the one with six. I do agree, though, that "tactical potential(ity) ... was not appreciated" adds something to "tactical use ... was not appreciated", so thanks for the suggestion. I'm sorry it took two goes for it to register. -- GJeffery 17:51, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

how does this all work im confused

Woodworking wikiproject
Hello, I have noticed that you have recently been making a number of valuable edits on woodworking-related pages. I would like to start a Wikiproject on woodworking if there is enough interest. Please reply on my user talk page if you think this is a good idea (oer even if you don't. I have taken a stab at a starting a wikiproject page in a sandbox page at User:Luigizanasi/sandbox. Feel free to edit it and to add your ideas. As soon as we have enough participants, I will start the project page at Wikiproject Woodworking. This message has also been sent to User:Carders User:SilentC User:Boinger.Luigizanasi 20:48, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Hello, I have started the WikiProject Woodworking page. Please feel free to edit it in any way. There is also a discussion page where we can have general discussions (I think discussions about individual articles are OK in their respective talk pages).Luigizanasi 04:57, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Creek Photos
Hi, I've just had a look on the creek (stream) page and I noticed you named my creeks as coming from North America. They were actually taken in Australia. I've updated the captions, but you may want to look over them. --Fir0002 06:36, September 4, 2005 (UTC)

English Racing Automobiles
Thanks for the useful edits on the ERA article. I'll admit that I was winging it a bit at times there; I'd just got fed up with the previous stub, which made out that ERA was an F1 team and nothing else! (And Raymond Mays is still a redlink I see... hmmm...) Loganberry (Talk) 11:30, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Postcodes
Hi, Re: the entries you made for postal codes on disambig pages. These were fair enough, but too long; the purpose of a disambig page is to clarify what someone's looking for. There shouldn't be much more than that in there; it's not the place for mini-articles.

I didn't remove all the text (I swithered about removing the reference to the list of UK postal codes, but left it in anyway)

Fourohfour 10:54, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Taj Mahal
I'm curious why you feel the Taj Mahal is important from an historical perspective? --Brunnock 13:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Edge Hill
Ok, I see your point. You might want to review my addition to the Battle of Edgehill article too. --Concrete Cowboy 20:33, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

affect
Thank you for the addition to my talk page, but I know the difference betweem affect and effect. In this case I do not think it is at all clear in the sentence if it is an internal or external change which is being referred to. But as I made the original change from "impact" to "negatively effected", I contend that it is an external force making the change not an internal adjustment hence effect not affect. Having said that I am not going to revert it again as I think we both have better things to do than argue over the number of angels on a pinhead --Philip Baird Shearer 17:25, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Battle of Hulluch
I see you restored information to the Battle of Hulluch on the Western Front (World War I) article. This info was removed because during a fact-check for its FAC, I could find no evidence that this battle ever happened. My sources at home are drawing blanks, the relevant article has no references, Google only gets Wikipedia articles/mirrors and Google Scholar gets nothing. Please provide a reference for this battle so that others can verify it. --maclean 25 07:17, 11 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I fear I was a little too trusting of a Wikipedia article. I reinstated it as I thought you had taken it out because the dates were nearly the same but a year apart. I therefore re-worded it to cover the year's passage of time.
 * However, the event does seem to have happened, though not one of the great battles readily recorded by history. The local example of that had occurred in the preceding autumn. It appears to have been part of the war of attrition going on all the time.
 * Look at the following:
 * The first mentions for the 16 07 1916, a Gasangriffe, a gas attack. This is in the July following the relevant date so is not wholly convincing evidence.
 * The 8th and 9th Dublins, who had arrived in France in December 1915 as part of 48th Brigade of the 16th (Irish) Division, were also subject to a German gas attack at Hulluch, near Loos, on 27 April 1916, suffering heavy casualties. This is from a Wikipedia article so is like the evidence you found, not 100% convincing. However, it was written by User:SoLando, who seems to be very interested in military subjects and who started to contribute in December 2003. The Battle of Hulluch contribution was made by a numbered user, User:198.143.64.82, on October 2005. He has contributed only to this, the date 1916 and to British 16th (Irish) Division on military subjects. Thus, the information seems to have come from two sources.
 * In the spring of 1916, the 15th Division suffered a German gas attack near Hulluch, 27-29 April. This comes from The Western Front Association.
 * See day three
 * 9th Service Battalion was part of 16th Irish division
 * This one backs up the gas attack claim but puts a rather less up-beat slant on it.
 * See 27 April
 * I suggest the best course is to ask User:SoLando where the information came from. (RJP 21:42, 11 February 2006 (UTC))

Lugger
Dear RJP,

I've made some changes to the page on luggers. I hope the material I've added to the discussion area on that page explains the reasons.

The Fifie did take the dipping lug to the extreme. Maybe for this reason it isn't the best example to use to describe the different types of lug sail? However the Fifie did have both a standing and a dipping lugsail.

I've also removed the reference to the yard always being on the starboard side, because on many fishing luggers (herring difters) the yard was on the port side? I believe this was due to the men working their nets from the starboard side, I'll have to find a reference.

I've maybe made a dogs breakfast of the article, which I hope you'll tidy up. Thanks for adding the picture of St. Abbs to the article. I may have a better image we could use to illustrate a lugger, do you think any of the images on this page would be useful? http://www.stabbs.org/history/gallery2.htm

Yours Sincerely,

Peter Nisbet St. Abbs

Thanks for your kind compliments regarding the St. Abbs site, I am glad that you found it interesting. It should be even better when I have the time to finish it.

I am think about creating two seperate graphics which illustrate the details of both the standing and dipping lug. I hope you keep me right as I am not very well versed with the details and names of sailing rigs. I most certainly hope you'll not "keep out of the way". Thanks Again, Peter.

"Rebe"
Thanks for fixing "Rebellion" at English Civil War. I was wondering what the heck "Rebe" was. Uh duh. :) --F a ng Aili 20:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Whoops
I not sure why the contents of my user page got added to your talk page. With this edit I removed it. I do not update my user page often so there is some pretty dated stuff on there. By the way, congratulations on getting Western Front (World War I) to featured status, you did great work there. --maclean 25 15:55, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thames A Class Rater (scow)
Please come and help with the article. You are in a unique position having worked on the boats as an apprentice. Fiddle Faddle 09:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Is there any chance a little digging might verify the burgoine's fire and rater destruction? That sounds both deeply unpleasant and precisley the type of item that would fit in well.  Does it seem odd to you that the sail numbers are a continuous series with no gaps if the destruction really happened?


 * I'm pretty sure that two of them were "owned" by Raven's Ait people. MLD was certainly rebuilt and sailed by the boatswain there, and I'm pretty sure that Nigel Cresswell, Sea Cadet officer, was very involved with Scamp.  Regrettably RA people were flung far and wide when the Navy League moved on.
 * Fiddle Faddle 20:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

HMS Lutine
Point about the article being about the gold wreck rather than the ship herself noted; however, this is the only point of interest about the vessel (and her association with Lloyd's). I am slowly adding to the article; if there is anything of more general interest that you would like to add, please feel free. --Major Bonkers 18:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Belton House and MGC
Hi, I agree with your comments here Talk:Belton House. The MGC should not be in the trivia section. I am currently in the middle of trying to re-write this page to FA standard, and want to retain that MGC information in a section called The 20th century, where I feel it belongs in the context of Belton's history. The problem is that the information needs to be sourced and referenced and cited for the page to be an FA - do you know where I (or you) can find a source for that. Regards Giano | talk 14:59, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks I'll reference the information to one or two of thos links. Giano | talk 09:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Your Chesshyre cite at Belton House
Hi RJP, thanks for you contributions at Belton House. I've posted some questions on Talk:Belton House about your Chesshyre cite. Could you comment there. Thanks. Paul August ☎ 16:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

(Willoughby link)
Did the younger sister then marry her dead sister's fiancee - as Willoughby became Duke of Ancaster? Giano | talk 19:27, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * No, not clever of me, I just thought perhaps you knew the answer. I just like you had found the two Willoughbys a few days ago too - it probably was the Ancaster one, having arranged a Ducal marriage, the mother probably dodn't want to let it go to waste - problem is proving it - my source justr says Lord Willoughby, but irritatinglt not Lord W d'E, as the marriage never took place it is doubtful it will be recorded anywhere. Have to have a think about it. Regards Giano | talk 21:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Aden
The Aden article originated as a philatelic item and you can check this via redirects. The philatelic content had been buried in a British history section and needs a higher profile in keeping with philately project strategy. Since you object to it having its own section, although this is normal in numerous other articles, I have moved the material into an independent article under the philately project. --BlackJack | talk page 11:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Didn't realise it would cause you a problem so I'm sorry about that. Aden is a good article. Well done. --BlackJack | talk page 19:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: inline citations
Inline citations means using Footnotes to cite sources. Thanks, Joe D (t) 19:43, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

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Beeching & Bourne
Firstly, apologies for my over-vigorous comments re the Abbey picture caption. I took the picture from up a step-ladder in front and to the left of the war memorial. My understanding is that the disputed former castle site is much further back than that. Regarding the Bourne railways. The passenger closure was in early 1959. The occasional through passenger trains and the goods service ceased not long afterwards. The report for which Richard Beeching was famous came out in 1963. Railway closures were already under way by then, and those closures are tarred with a back-dated Beeching brush. I believe that the lines were closed and pulled up around Bourne before Beeching (it was happening elsewhere too) and it is misleading to apply the Beeching name to them. That is why I edited out the comment a couple of months ago which was reinserted when the article was reordered. Incidentally, at Baldock's Mill, among many interesting railway pictures, there is a photo of the demolition of the bridge over Abbey/Spalding Road, which was a real bottleneck. Guy 21:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Archaeological horizon
good re-write of my edits there. I am currently doing a lot of work in Category:Methods and principles in archaeology and would appreciate your input following up behind as my writing style sucks. thanks Boris 13:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

have a look at these if you have the time
saw your work on relationships. other articles (amongst others) cheers Boris 07:57, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Archaeological context
 * 2) Archaeological phase
 * 3) Archaeological section
 * 4) Excavation
 * 5) Feature (archaeology)
 * 6) Archaeological association

site formation
going to use this "Archaeological material would, to a very large extent, have been called rubbish when it was left on the site. It tends to accumulate in events. A gardener swept a pile of soil into a corner, laid a gravel path or planted a bush in a hole. A builder built a wall and back-filled the trench. Years later, someone built a pig sty onto it and drained the pig sty into the nettle patch. Later still, the original wall blew over and so on. Each event, which may have taken a short or long time to accomplish, leaves a context, a deposit of material, on the site." cut and pasted into excavation as a basis for new section "site formation". the use of side of trench and the inference relationships are only viewable in section is slightly too informal? have removed that as being a bit misleading given the degree of rigor i am trying ti inject. the trick is balancing the jargonese techie terms with laymans understanding thoughts as I am new to wiki but notice most science topics are pretty tight?

sequence (archaeological)
good again. its my fault that i didn't make clear that sequence can refer to any discrete part of the archaeological record and not just a site. a sequence could be a half dozen contexts within a single feature for instance. mia culpa. still getting there. cheers Boris 16:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Edenham
Are you able to write a proper article about Edenham, especially the Earl of Ancaster's railway? The Bythams too? I have made a start with what little I know off the top of my head. I have it down to take pictures of the church and vicarage, possibly also a trudge along the old track bed to the bridge where the Earl's railway used to cross the M&GNJR. Guy 20:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Earl of Scarbrough
Very sorry about my spelling-correction-too-far there (late-night word blindness). I do still think that it should be "the Earl..." though (no capital T). -- Picapica 11:59, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * As to the T: be my guest. :-) As to the Scarbrough: it is temting to think that he couldn't spell but if he liked it that way, who are we? ;-) As to the red link: even before it's working properly, the full name will come up when it's clicked on and the article title is not the man's practical name so it would obstruct the readers' flow of thought.(RJP 13:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC))

The Fens
Ah, someone who seems to know something about The Fens! :-) Please advise me: where does Woodwalton Fen fit into the scheme of things? Thanks!--GRM 12:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your detailed feedback on my user page--GRM 21:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Côte d'Or (escarpment) question
Hello RJP- I ran across your above article in the course of doing some maintenance to the various pages referring to "Côte d'Or". I found the FR article before I found yours--it is a short one that calls the area an 'elevation that overlooks the Saône valley to the west'. Are you very sure that it is considered an escarpment? Not challenging you--just asking because in a quick search, I couldn't find a French source that uses that term for that area. I've always had only a vague idea of what the word meant until I followed the term's link from the article and then looked it up elsewhere. I was thinking that a more general, more immediatley recognizable title for the EN article might be 'Côte d'Or (geographic feature)' or something like that, for people who aren't familiar with the term 'escarpment'. Then they can read the article to learn that the area's name refers to the that geographical feature. What do you think? -Eric (talk) 21:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi RJP- re: escarpment, that sounds good to me--I just wanted to double-check. For ligne de hauteur, I can't find the term as such in any dictionary, but I did some poking around and it's apparently used for several concepts. It's very commonly used for elevation line, as in a contour line on a topo map. The colloquial English equivalent of the FR article's use might be ridge or heights. Sounds like "escarpement" would be a better word for the FR article as well.


 * Anyway, what do you think of the article re-naming idea? -Eric (talk) 03:33, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi RJP- Sorry, I guess I was rambling a bit last night. As I mentioned, I realize the reader can learn what escarpment means from following the link in the article. My main point, once I was sure what the term meant, was to suggest that we use more general language in the disambiguation part of the title, for example, change it to: "Côte d'Or (geographic feature)" to distinguish it from the department article (and--who knows why it's there--the chocolate article). -Eric (talk) 13:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

The Stump
Having been in contact with a person knowledgeable on the history of The Stump, and he was in turn in contact with the Stump Librarian, I have added a section "Significance of the tower". Please have a look at it and feel free to copy edit, etc. Thanks SMeeds 17:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

The Spanish Armada
Hey, i added a comment on the talk page about the ship and sailor numbers. Can you please check this as I am writing a History Project to be handed in on Saturday and I haven't a clue about the Armada ! --Celticfan383

British anti-invasion preparations of World War II
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Brackenholme Priory
I'm a bit puzzled about the listing of Brackenholme Priory in Lincolnshire. (see my additional remarks at Talk:Brackenholme Priory) I'm wondering if this ever existed outside Wikipedia.

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