User talk:RRuk/Archives2008/July

Hello!
I put these templates because there are already categories of both subjects. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 16:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

A discussion
An important discussion on ''Should WikiProjects get prior approval of other WikiProjects (Descendant or Related or any ) to tag articles that overlaps their scope ? '' is open here. We welcome you to participate and give your valuable opinions. You are receiving this note as you are a member of WikiProject Council --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 12:40, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * hey, I think you are confused ? u are asking whether Projects should ask other projects or not ? If No, I guess you need to say 'Oppose' . If you think projects should ask, you should say Support --  TinuCherian  (Wanna Talk?) - 13:55, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcomes
It's good that you like to welcome new users, but please remember to insert your greetings into User_talk pages. Unlike talk pages, edits made to a User page will not bring up the "You have new messages" banner and a user will have little to notify him. Also regarding this edit, as you are not a sysop and have no access to administrative tools, please note that it is inappropriate for non-admins to use such templates. Thanks! WilliamH (talk) 10:49, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Please don't play with the block templates. They're for admins only. You are not a sysop. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 12:53, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Re:

 * I have read it [+] • Ω ЯΛUNΛΣ • *¿*  •  14:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Your signature
Hi. I noticed that the signature you're using features the bouncing wiki image. Unfortunately, this does not comply with the Signature guideline, which does not allow images of any kind to be used in signatures. Please consider changing your signature to remove the image. - Mark 05:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to add my support for the above statement by Mark, and hope you would reconsider your signature. -  Toon  05  15:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for changing your signature so willingly, You can't be expected to know all of the guidelines off by heart. -  Toon  05  17:41, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Please also remove the line breaks in your signature, it should be all on one line, otherwise it can be disruptive to threaded discussion. Mr.Z-man 21:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Done as per guidlines [+] Autographed by • RRaunak • 
 * Much better, being on one line makes it fit in better with the rest of the talk page formatting wise, and also draws less attention away from the issues at hand. -  Toon  05  12:37, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a friendly request that you keep your experimenting with your username to your pages or the sandbox, as I get a new message notice every time somebody changes something on my talk page. Thanks! -  Toon  05  14:25, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Sagging (fashion) declined speedy
Hello, trying to understand why you tagged for speedy deletion this long-standing article about an encyclopedic topic. Cheers,  Dloh  cierekim  18:52, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your note. What's unencyclopedic about it? The subject is a social phenomenon. The article is written in concise sentences that describe that phenomenon. It is reliably sourced from WP:verifiable sources. The controversy it has caused could be the subject of an article in and of itself. If anything, it needs expansion. It certainly does not meet  CSD-G1.


 * I take pride in the fact that we have articles on subjects not found in Encarta. Look here and then check Encarta to see how many of these subjects have articles there. Even if Encarta has an article, ours is usually more thorough, more in-depth, and better sourced. The Encarta page I looked at says they have 42,000 articles. We have over 1,000,000


 * In so far as tagging articles for deletion or improvement goes, I think you need a lot more experience editing and improving articles first. I also think you need to reread the criteria that apply to the tags you are applying. You should review the WP:Manual of Style and then do some research and try writing and expanding articles. Once you've gained greater experience building the encyclopedia, you'll have a better idea of when and how to tag articles others have been working on. Cheers, and happy editing.  Dloh  cierekim  13:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

July 2008
Constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, but a recent edit that you made has been reverted or removed because it was a misuse of a warning or blocking template. Please use the sandbox for any tests you may want to do, or take a look at our introduction page to learn more about contributing to the encyclopedia. ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 00:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( &#126;&#126;&#126;&#126; ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 05:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

re: Rollback
Hi RRaunak, as you're very new here I'm a little wary of granting your request. Please edit for a few more weeks, get to know the ropes, and we'll have a chat after that. Ciao! ~ Riana ⁂ 13:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Review
Hmmm. I've been reviewing your contribs, and I really need to emphasize my recommendation that you gain more experience with article building before you go after other editors.

This was wholly inappropriate. As the editor has not edited since, I fear you've run him off. Please don't threaten people with blocks as you did. After you've gained experience as an editor, then review WP:Block. Only after you've a lot more experience even consider a "you will be blocked warning." If you think some one needs blocking, report them at the appropriate notice board or at WP:AN/I.

User:Qcplibrary novaliches was not advertising a business. It's a public library. There are more tactful ways of dealing with a new user with an inappropriate userpage. The user's talk page is blank, so you did not even welcome them. How can we expect new users to follow the guidelines if they don't know what they are. Laying a welcome tag is a nice, friendly way to introduce someone to our policies and guidelines. The thing to do after that is to in a nice, non bitey way, guide them. Cheers,
 * Yeah, I gathered that. {Actually, I got the sense it was a public library, not a business.} It's your handling of the situations that was just plain too rough-- brutal comes to mind. You need to treat new users with a certain degree of understanding and patience. Blanking other people's user pages and going to a block warning from the start are not the way to go. Warnings should be progressive, instructive in the correct policies and, most importantly, should be made in the assumption of good faith. Once again, I heartily recommend doing some article building, reviewing all the pertinent policies and then, maybe, in about 2000-3000 edits, consider evaluating the work of other editors and coaching them in how to improve. Also, I would say you need to fix your sig so it does not include a line break in your signature. cheers,   Dloh  cierekim  15:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Wellen (novel)
Hi, what exactly is it you criticize about that page? What "self-published sources"?? And why do you refer to an empty talk page "for details"?? Best wishes, &lt;K  F&gt;  16:26, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I tagged that article as it has little references --    [+]► ▌●√Ω ЯЯΛUNΛΣ● ▌ ◄■►  16:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The novel itself is the reference. You only have to read it (link provided). But anyway, What are "self-published sources"??? And again: Why refer users to an empty talk page "for details"? &lt;K  F&gt;  16:33, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh..You provided the online text after i tagged it....No problems,u can undo the tagging.As to talk page if it is created then one can discuss in it about Wellen like yours F&gt;  Thanks,--     [+]► ▌●√Ω ЯЯΛUNΛΣ● ▌ ◄■►  16:36, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello!
Please read WP:NOTMYSPACE -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 14:03, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Some suggestions: Also i can fix up your userpage if you want... -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 15:04, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Status: Instead of always changing it manually, i have a script that loads it into your monobook.js and adds in, out, busy buttons and they change it directly. Do you want it? -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 17:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello!
Encarta is a great source, but per GFDL requirements, It must come from trusted third parties and google is your best friend. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 06:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC) <== Don't forget to add the 4 tildes! ~

Hello!
Based on the contribs and the messages on your talk page, i feel like you're unexperienced with the tools such as Friendly or Twinkle due to the frequent mistakes you make. Please try to be more careful because misuse of the tools might result to a block. Ok? Do you want some coaching? -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 16:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you know you can get some scripts for editing Wikipedia? I use a lot of wikipedia scripts and they're all adapted to my needs. I don't go to Special:Newpages or Special:recentchanges to check out what has been changed lately. For me, for new pages, i use a script that uses AJAX scripting language and javascript that refreshes every second to see new pages. It's put below the Random article section and i can enable it anytime i want. As for the rollbacking feature, i agree with Riana's decision to wait. You're making a lot of mistakes that needs to be fixed. I have fixed a lot of your mistakes and some of them doesn't even need the template. Books and movies are also references. Please try to be careful as you're on a thin ledge. Rollback is for reverting serial edits by a single IP or a single username. --  ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 17:06, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * To get administrator status, you'd need a consensus and a lot of support from fellow users and admins. To get WP:bureaucrat, you'd need EVEN more support from admins and users. As both requirements are different to each. A admin has the ability to delete pages, see deleted pages, delete edits, undelete edits, protect articles and pages and salting (preventing recreation) pages and changing user flags. A bureaucrat has the power to grant flags such as Bot or administrator status and changing usernames. The user i am currently using was already taken when i wanted to register it, so i did a request and a bureaucrat changed it for me. Bureaucrat are also administrator so they have the same status as admins. There's also another group of users such as Oversighters who can PERMANANTELY delete certain edits by issuing certain commands. Checkuser can see what IP was used on a username and see IP ranges too. It's often used in sockpuppetry checking and blocking. are elected by and from the global wikipedia community. They are like GODS on any language wikipedia because they are admin, bureaucrats, checkuser, oversighter and they can make anyone on any language wikipedia admin.

Changing other peoples' comments
Don't change other peoples' comments, like you did here. It's effectively putting words in other peoples' mouths, and is considered extremely rude. --Carnildo (talk) 01:18, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It's a rotten link --    [+]► ▌●√Ω ЯЯΛUNΛΣ● ▌ ◄■►  04:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It's a perfectly good diff link, showing you removing the words "half" and "too distracting" from my comment. Don't do that. --Carnildo (talk) 04:51, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey it shows downloading index.php.But...I wont do it. I remember my mischief.--    [+]► ▌●√Ω ЯЯΛUNΛΣ● ▌ ◄■►  04:53, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Your bot.
Your bot is NOT authorized to be running on Wikipedia. You'd need to request permission to WP:Bot. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 12:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I have blocked your bot account because it lacks the necessary authorisation; see WP:BOT.  Sandstein   13:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

I Know A Little
Hi, you used the wrong process to nominate that article for deletion. I Know A Little is an article, not a category. It must be deleted through WP:AfD, not through WP:CfD.  Sandstein  13:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators
Please stop using all automated tools such as Popups, rollback, Huggle and Twinkle, immediately, until you are very sure that you know what you are doing with them. Otherwise, the tools may be disabled for you, or you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Your bot.
Per discussions with fellow administrators and looking at the rules, we have decided to block your bot for now. The reason implied was WP:BITE and it's only for approved bots on WP:Bots. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 13:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello!
Can you please try do adjust your signature? Me and a lot of admins find it rather um, obonixious and annoying. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 21:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Deletions
For goodness sake! To get rid of your own test pages, you don't waste your time with AfD (which should have been MfD anyway!), you just tag them db-author. &mdash; RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 08:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC) [+]► ▌●√Ω ЯЯΛUNΛΣ● ▌  08:42, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Anyhow, I was constructing them.--

India edits
Hi! Please could you not use the Indian flag as a background for mainspace edits as you were trying to do on the India page? Thanks! =Nichalp  «Talk»=  10:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Please do not do such a thing. You are free to do whatever you want to your user page but not to other pages. Please remember that in Wikipedia, text and images are generally open to editing. Formatting and style changes are NOT, at least not without deep discussion. =Nichalp   «Talk»=  12:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Flag in India article
Why are you trying to add the Indian flag over the Wikipedia logo? Any good reason? Please do not take such arbitrary deicios that spol the structure of Wikipedia pages. Just becasue you feel that The flag looks good.It should be on all country pages. Such drastic changes cannot be done without proper discussion on Wikipedia. And there is a flag anyway, so what is the need for another one right behind the wikipedia logo? --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 10:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:INDIA
 Welcome! Hello! You look like someone who might be interested in joining the India WikiProject and so I thought I'd drop you a line and invite you! We'd love to have you help us :-)

--  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 10:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Members
10:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
 Welcome!

Hi, and welcome to the India WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India.

A few features that you might find helpful:


 * Please participate in any of our descendant workgroups that might interest you.
 * The project has a bimonthly newsletter; it will normally be delivered in its entirety, but several other formats are available.

There are a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:


 * Want to know how good our articles are? The assessment department is working on rating the quality of every India article in Wikipedia.
 * Can you code? The automation department uses automated and semi-automated methods to perform batch tasks that would be tedious to do manually.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 10:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

AFD nominations
Please take a look at WP:CSD -- many of the articles you are tagging for AFD are eligible for speedy deletion, which is quicker and a lot less work. Thanks! NawlinWiki (talk) 11:05, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Nobody's going to block you for CSD nominations -- especially not if you read the categories carefully and only tag obvious candidates for speedy deletion. But I just had to close 3 of your AFD nominations for articles that were obvious speedy-delete candidates.  I'd rather not have to do that extra work.  Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 11:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Just click on this link: WP:CSD for a description of the speedy delete policies. I see you've tagged 3 or 4 more articles for AFD.  Could you please stop this until you've gotten more familiar with our deletion policies?  Thanks, NawlinWiki (talk) 11:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I would agree; we appreciate your contributions to the project, but there are easier ways to get nonsense, vandalism, and other pages removed. It creates extra work if we have to close individual discussions when a page can just be deleted per WP:CSD. Frank  |  talk  11:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Please refrain...
Please refrain of using any scripts for a while. Otherwise, it may result in a block. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 12:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Hello. A user has raised concerns about your editing practices in the thread linked to above. While we thank you for your intent to help us improve Wikipedia, you have been doing practically everything wrong so far, thereby creating unnecessary work for the editors who have to repair your edits.

Please stop using all automated tools such as Popups, rollback, Huggle and Twinkle, immediately, until you are very sure that you know what you are doing with them. Otherwise, the tools may be disabled for you, or you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey relax buddy... I hate to tell you this. There are lots of complaints about your edits.. Many of them are due to your ignorance of how Wikipedia works and what tools have to be used for what. Don't do experimental activities of tools and templates in wikipedia. As you are a newbie, I can understand your enthusiasm but you are doing more harm than good.. Please take a break, relax, go through your past edits and check whether you are doing right. As an experienced wikipedian myself, I offer you all my help. Feel free to ask me when in doubt. --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 12:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't panic now...We are all here to help you. With some more maturity, you can be one of the best Wikipedians here ....So kindly stop using the tools for now. Currently I am going through your past edits and I will help you to understand what went wrong.Enjoy your stay in Wikipedia. --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 12:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * 1) Dont use mutiple accounts like this : User:Rnkroy . We have a very strong policy againist Sock puppetry. Read this policy first ! --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 12:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 2) Dont even dare to vandalise other user page or any articles! You may angry with some other user's behaviour or argument. Just report it at WP:ANI. There are lots of Wikipedians out there who may advise you what is right and wrong in Wikipedia --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 13:00, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 3) Wikipedia Tools like WP:Friendly and WP:Twinkle are to help mature Wikipedians to aid them in tedious task.Dont use them blindly. Think before you tag any article .. How do you explain your edits like this, this again this etc. ?
 * 4) High edit count doesnt mean quality . If you go on a rampage with those thoughtless edits, you are on the edge of being blocked yourself? Why should you do that ? We have a free encyopedia here that is useful for all ? Use it , contribute to it...! --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 13:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh dear... Stopping doing that. Be mature.. Please dont attack or abuse anyone in Wikipedia... Neither outside too :) --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 13:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Just leave me - go away - I don't care what you do with your many accounts or who stays where or whose father cares what. Don't touch me again. You are no better than under aged kid driving a speedy vehicle. Never know what damage you can do. -- gp pande  «talk»  13:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

July 2008
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Frank |  talk  13:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes. Dont ever do these..We are trying to help you ...Dont get yourself blocked by doing all these --  TinuCherian  (Chat?) - 13:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Hey...
What are you talking about, if I may ask in good faith? Basketball110 My story/Tell me yours 17:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of User:RRaunak/monobook.js
I have nominated User:RRaunak/monobook.js, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/User:RRaunak/monobook.js. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 01:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Reg: Hi
I am not an admin, so i cannot block you9or anyone else). Nor do I really want to block you. Besides, it would be better if you reply at the ANI thread instead of writing seperately to each editor. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 08:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you but I can take care of my problems. You dont need to worry about Eios1234 or Cupidcobra. I can handle them. --Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 12:04, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello!
I will investigate on that ok? I will decide the proper actions to do...-- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 21:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
i am coping your signature. no patent on it,right! got a designer do that ?  Y ELEMENT  ( ¶ )  17:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello!
Monobook.js is the default settings for adding scripts to your monobook skin. Per the WP:ANI thread and the decisions of many admins, you are not allowed to use scripts for a while. -- ɔɹǝɐ ɯ ʎ! Talk 06:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

WP:MOTD needs your help!
You're listed as one of our contributors, but recent inactivity in the project has led us to be rather short on mottos. Currently, the schedule only has mottos up to August 12th, and that's only because I just spent half an hour or so filling them in! In order to make sure the project doesn't fold in, we need your help coming up with ideas for new mottos, commenting on active proposals, closing finished submissions, and your input on a new proposal to re-use some of our older mottos when we run out of new ones. Hundreds of editors see our mottos every day; if you can, please take some time out of your normal editing and drop by to help the project out. Thanks for your time. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 05:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC) '' P.S. - You're getting this because you're using User MOTD. If you don't want to participate any more, please remove the userbox. Thanks. ''