User talk:RZuo

November 2023
 You have been blocked indefinitely from editing certain namespaces (Wikipedia and Wikipedia talk) for WP:IDHT. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Valereee (talk) 12:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * No objection to any other admin unblocking if they feel they've gotten through to this editor. Valereee (talk) 13:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * RZuo (talk) 13:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't feel like declining this as I've commented here before, but I don't see this a convincing request and believe it affirms Valereee's block. RZuo has a long history of CIR and tendentious behavior in various spaces, primarily Wikipedia: space. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 19:35, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

lol, the situation in which i am blocked for, is exactly discussed by User:Czar and User:WhatamIdoing https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Assume_good_faith&oldid=1174593776#Title_misinterpretation.

and also User:Czar's Wikipedia_talk:Assume_good_faith/Archive_9 in 2016: "I have seen, on more than one occasion, an editor citing 'assume good faith' when another reader asks for help verifying a citation. This is to say that AGF—the behavioral guideline for assuming that others mean well and are not acting maliciously—is confused with simple 'trust but verify' verification requests. So while we assume that editors add citations to the best of their ability (and mean well), AGF doesn't mean that we abdicate verifiability, especially when the editor has the source material..." "AGF should not extend to assuming any form of content is accurate without evidence."

i disagreed with a claim by another user. i asked for evidence to back up the disputed claim. and then i was said (notably by a third-party but not the supposed target of my action) to be not assuming good faith.🥴--RZuo (talk) 20:53, 29 November 2023 (UTC)


 * It says above that the block is "for WP:IDHT" (=not AGF). That usually means that you are not showing the community that you know How to Win Friends and Influence People, or to collaborate in a collegial project.  If you want to get an IDHT block removed, you usually need to demonstrate Soft skills.  Depending on what the underlying dispute was about, that might sound something like "I can see that my effort to help by ______ might have been upsetting because _______ and ________.  In the future, I plan to _______ to avoid problems like this.  I understand that it's more important for us to work together than for me to get what I think is best right away".  Of course, now that I've spelled it out, it'll be about as convincing as a little child who's been told to say 'sorry' for bumping into a friend, but perhaps that will give you an idea for a relevant response.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:20, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * it's "WP:IDHT after repeated explanations of what constitutes ABF..."
 * the accusing and blocking user thinks i fail to understand their interpretation of ABF/AGF (assuming bad/good faith), but their interpretation is plain wrong. my 4 attempts to explain to them becomes "IDHT" aka "Failure or refusal to "get the point"", "the point" being their wrong interpretation of ABF/AGF.
 * am i the 1st person to notice this misinterpretation of AGF ("AGF = accepting claims without evidence")? no, you, Czar, Alextejthompson already said the same thing.
 * will i be the last victim of these sysops' misinterpretations? answer looks like "no" too.--RZuo (talk) 21:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "In the future, I plan to _______ to avoid problems like this."
 * towards this misinterpretation and the resultant accusation, my initial strategy had been to ignore and avoid argument, then i got threatened with blocking, so i explained, then i got blocked. i say nothing? block. i say something? block.
 * i argue after i get blocked? soon i will be blocked further for "battleground". a million ways to get blocked.
 * the only recourse i can see, is Dispute_resolution, but i have already been preemptively blocked from all those pages.
 * i'm not concerned at all, after all, ja:wikt:悪事千里を走る "bad news travels fast". :) --RZuo (talk) 21:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 * RZuo, dispute resolution isn't where you'd need to take this, as it isn't a content dispute. You can take it to WP:XRV or to WP:AN. I or anyone else can post your appeal to one of those places; ping me if you'd like me to do that. Valereee (talk) 22:08, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

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