User talk:R sadoff

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Are you a paid editor with a conflict of interest?
Hello R sadoff. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, and that you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to Black hat SEO.

Paid advocates are very strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists, and if it does not, from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:R sadoff. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, please do not edit further until you answer this message. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:51, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


 * This is a copy of a message from R Sadoff posted on my talk page: Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:30, 6 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback on my recent edits to Mark P. Lagon. I would like to clarify that I have absolutely no financial stake in the page. I am a former unpaid intern of Mark's and believe he is notable enough to be listed on Wikipedia. I admit that the article was based on his CV, but do not think my wording was overly-promotional or inappropriate. According to the Wikipedia:Conflict of Interest page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest), "Beliefs and desires may lead to biased editing, but they do not constitute a COI. COI emerges from an editor's roles and relationships, and the tendency to bias that we assume exists when those roles and relationships conflict." I look forward to your thoughts.


 * R sadoff (talk) 03:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)R Sadoff


 * Thank you. You have admitted that you have a conflict of interest but deny that any remuneration is involved because you were (are?) an unpaid intern. I see that in mid-December your Draft:Mark Lagon was deleted for being grossly promotional. Is the present article, Mark P. Lagon, essentially identical to the deleted draft, because I still find it excessively promotional? Mr Logan is probably notable according to the Wikipedia criteria, but your article would be improved by being reduced to about a quarter of its present length, by removing the fluff and just retaining the facts. See this page for the typical types of blatant advertising on behalf of a person and what you should try to avoid. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:38, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Mark P. Lagon
Hello R sadoff,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Mark P. Lagon for deletion, because it seems to be inappropriate for a variety of reasons. For more details please see the notice on the article.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Mark_P._Lagon&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:54, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sur Ronster (June 14)
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Curbon7 (talk) 02:36, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Sur Ronster
Hello, R sadoff. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Sur Ronster, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 03:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Sur Ronster


Hello, R sadoff. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Sur Ronster".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 02:49, 14 December 2021 (UTC)