User talk:Rab070

Removing Content
CiarraiThiar why do you keep removing my content ??

Hi Rab070, I wasn't picking on you. I was removing your references because they weren't being used as a citation, there were just hanging around at the bottom of the page serving no purpose.

To explain, the purpose of a citation is to provide a source for a fact e.g. to give proof that X million bottles of Jameson Whiskey were sold in 2016, someone could cite a reputable source of information such as a trade journal, the BBC etc. A superscript number will appear beside the fact in the article, which the reader can use to find the source of information at the bottom of the page. You kept adding a reference to your website at the bottom of the page that wasn't being used to confirm anything in the text. Therefore, it was unnecessary in the context of the article, and served no purpose other than to advertise your website. This is why I removed you additions. It wasn't personal, it's just that your content served no purpose. CiarraiThiar (talk) 23:14, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Blocked
You have been blocked from editing as a sockpuppet of the blocked promotional account User:Fairleys Wines. Canterbury Tail  talk  21:59, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Canterbury Tail I can't understand why am being picked on when there are other websites advertising on your pages. Could you explain the difference please ?


 * The issue here is you're applying references that aren't being used to reference anything, just as links. Additionally you work for the site you're linking to which is in violation of WP:COI and you're using your own site which is advertising per WP:ADVERT. Those other sites aren't advertising on Wikipedia, editors have added them to support articles as valid references and they're not being added by the companies in question. Lastly your links add no value, they're just pages to buy the products with zero encyclopaedic information not already on Wikipedia, and your site is not considered to be a WP:Reliable source. Canterbury Tail   talk  22:47, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Canterbury Tail After researching and watching with interest are you aware that there are promotional links that are taking you straight into websites to buy products within your categories? Below I have listed a category were I found this happening https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midleton_Very_Rare#References if you click on a few of them links you will see what I am talking about, could you explain this to me.


 * Your ability to edit this talk page has been revoked, and if you have anything further to say you will need to use your original account. But if all you want to do is insist on your "right" to advertise your business here, you are onto a loser - and it is actually very bad PR for a business to be found to be abusing this free educational resource for the purpose of their own greed. If you want to advertise yourself, go pay for it somewhere - we have zero tolerance for parasites here. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 23:34, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Rab090, since I actually added the links on that page I will try to explain why it differs from what you did.


 * When I overhauled the Midleton Very Rare page recently, I added some information about the differing bottlings of Midleton that have been released. Rather than just write some facts about the whiskey which I could have just pulled from the air, I included citations, so that if someone questioned what I had written they could easily double-check it by following the citation to see the source of the information.


 * Obviously, not all that is written online is accurate, therefore, it is best practice to go to a primary source of information. In the case of Midleton Very Rare, a primary source could be the website of the producers, Jameson. This is what I did for citation 4. However, the information that I wanted to cite was only on the Jameson online shop (which kind of makes sense as it is quite specific info about the bottling), so that is why I linked to that online shop. However, the purpose of the link was to allow someone to verify the information that I had written, not than to provide a link to the store.


 * However, in the following case (which I believe may be the one you are feeling hard done by) I wasn't able to find the information on the Jameson website, so I looked elsewhere. I came across information on one particular online store, which I have previously noted to be both detailed and accurate. Therefore, I cited that store as the source of some of the information used here:


 * However, the purpose of the link was to give a verifiable source of the facts mentioned about the whiskey. Again, the link wasn't just added to advertise the online store.


 * I hope that explains why those links were okay, but what you were doing was breaking the rules.


 * Also, I should point out that I have absolutely no connection to the online stores. By adding links I'm not trying to advertise the stores, I'm just trying to make the article informative and verifiable. CiarraiThiar (talk) 23:54, 1 February 2017 (UTC)