User talk:Rabethjamerson

Deletion discussion about How the West was Won: A Pioneer Pageant
Hello, Rabethjamerson,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether How the West was Won: A Pioneer Pageant should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/How the West was Won: A Pioneer Pageant.

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Thanks, Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 02:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

More specifically, I'm suggesting that it be merged with the article for the Whitman Massacre and completely deleted. If you're OK with this, I'm happy to assist with the move and merge.--Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 02:33, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Scalhotrod,

This is my first article post to Wikipedia, so please bear with me if I'm not utilizing conventions correctly. I'm curious why you would want to merge How the West was Won: A Pioneer Pageant with the Whitman Massacre...one is a theatrical creation, the other, an historical event, in the same way that Inherit the Wind (a play) is based on the Scopes Trial, except the analogy is not quite right. In the case of How the West was Won: A Pioneer Pageant, the Whitman Massacre is only 1 single part of many. Can you tell me why you feel they should be merged? (RabethJamerson)
 * First, the causal relationship between the two, the Pagent would not exist were it not for the Massacre. In your example, the event generated several theatrical renditions, not the single instance of the Pagent where its loosely associated with the historical event as evidenced by the article itself. Second is WP:Notability, the Pagent (even in relative terms) does not seen to be notable on its own to merit an article when merging it with the Massacre article gives it far more context and relevance.--Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 08:56, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

The causal relationship between the two was incorrectly established in the first paragraph. I've changed it. It is pure speculation that the Pageant would not have existed without the Massacre. Second, Notability: I'm not sure what constitutes notability here in the context of theatrical productions. Is the Catonsville Nine or the Scopes Trial notable? These are theatrical representations of historical events.