User talk:Rachel Helps (BYU)/Archive 1

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Adoption offer
You seem like a good-faith editor working for the purposes of Wikipedia, so I am offering adoption. I am watching your talk page, so if you would like to accept, please reply here; remember to add one colon after this comment if you reply. Esquivalience  t 02:59, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
 * yes, I'd love to be adopted! You seem like someone who really knows their Wikipedia. :-) When/if I have questions for you, what's the best way to ask them? Rwelean (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Great! If you have any specific questions, you can ask them on my my talk page; however adoption is also a program and I will teach you the basics and the (not-so-basic) parts of Wikipedia. Some first advice: if you not only plan to edit Wikipedia as part of your role, but also make personal edits, you may also want to create a separate account for your official contributions (a possible username could be User:Rwelean (BYU)); however check this page for an overview of allowed and disallowed uses of alternate accounts.
 * I've been thinking about this--I've only been hired for a year, so it might be easier to say that most of my 2016 edits are for BYU. But I'm also new here; would the main reason to make a BYU account to make it clear when I'm acting as a BYU employee and when I'm making my own edits?Rwelean (talk) 16:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)


 * Your training page is here, and that is the boot camp (although work-in-progress). Good luck! Esquivalience  t 02:59, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, while I prepare the training page, would you mind if I perform some copyediting of your draft article in your sandbox? Esquivalience  t 03:25, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I don't mind at all! It's a WIP Rwelean (talk) 16:44, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've submitted the Lucinda Lee Dalton page for DYK. I'm excited to do this!! Rwelean (talk) 18:09, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

I apologize for being tardy in responding, but you can use Checklinks to check for link rot. Eventually, a bot will be created for it; there is agreement among the community that it would be a good idea. Esquivalience  t 03:18, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I was able to find and fix the broken links using the external link finder.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Lucinda Lee Dalton has been accepted
 Lucinda Lee Dalton, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created. The article has been assessed as B-Class, which is recorded on the article's talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article. You are more than welcome to continue making quality contributions to Wikipedia. . Thank you for helping improve Wikipedia! Robert McClenon (talk) 17:56, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Lucinda_Lee_Dalton help desk] .
 * If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

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Hi, when you approve a DYK nomination, please use one of the colored icons that appear just above the editing window. You should not put a "yes" next to "passed" on the third line at the top – that section is for editors who are building the prep sets and promoting the hook to the prep area. Best, Yoninah (talk) 22:30, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, when you sign your name, type four tildes ( ~ ) so your name and the date stamp will appear automatically. Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
I do not normally give barnstars for first articles, as they are well, first articles; but it was exemplary how you were able to compose an article that would probably qualify for featured status (with some copyediting and fixes) so quickly. However, I still have some notes on how to improve the article:
 * A selected list of works from Dalton would be nice: see WP:LOW for accepted conventions on how to format bibliographies (note that "LOW" is just a shortcut to refer to various policies, guidelines, and "meta" pages).
 * Although the article mostly adheres to Wikipedia's Manual of Style (MOS), I suggest that you should skim through it or use the simplified version of the MOS to pick up the most important style guidelines of Wikipedia. Reading the whole MOS and its subpages is counter-productive, as memorizing it requires eidetic memory; so do not stress too much about memorizing the MOS; consult the appropriate section when you need to.
 * If you need to find information about an aspect of Wikipedia style guidelines while you are editing, here is a tip: go to WP:MOS (type WP:MOS into your search bar), open it in a new tab, and use the handy sidebar on the right.


 * Long quotes (about 40 words or more or more than one paragraph) should be placed between  tags.
 * Birth names should be placed like this:
 * Richard Ronald Roe (born John Jane Doe ... or John Smith (né Doe ...

Nonetheless, excellent effort! Esquivalience  t 03:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Also on the separate account: Yes, creating a separate account for your official contributions would separate your official contributions from your personal ones. Also, do you have an official page on the BYU library website? Esquivalience  t 21:04, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * yes, it's here. Should I put it on my talk page to increase my legitimacy? I know some Wikipedians prefer to remain anonymous, but I'm pretty sure "rwelean" is connected to my real name anyway, and if I'm working for an institution it makes sense for my identity to be public.Rwelean (talk) 19:03, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the barnstar and for helping to improve the article! I noticed you added a list of her works, more sources, and expanded the lead section--wow! I often have trouble with lead sections. I was thinking of nominating the article for Good Article status, but with your improvements I think it might qualify for Featured Article status. What's your opinion? Rwelean (talk) 19:03, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

I would not nominate it for FA that quickly, as many editors go beyond the criteria in their assessment, and for good reason, as FAs should be Wikipedia's best work. I would not even touch GA unless FA is impossible, as nominations take two eternities (especially for a topic which systemic bias is against). I suggest you do the following: Once you have done the above, then the article will probably pass FA, and you will have the privilege of the magic silver star. :) Esquivalience  t 02:49, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Thoroughly copyedit of the article's prose. If you can request another person to copyedit the work, do so, as there is currently a shortage of editors working in Wikipedia's Guild of Copy Editors and peer review. Any style issues that exist will most definitely be brought up at the featured article nomination, so don't worry about that for now.
 * Squeeze every last drop from the sources you can find on Dalton, or try to find a few more sources to make sure that the article is FA comprehensive; I'll try to find some more sources myself. A specific note: is there any more information you can find on her teaching career?
 * I thought I had found all the available sources on Dalton, but you were able to find more! I was relying on the BYU library search's metadata which doesn't always pick up sources. It looks like I can find a few more sources through books.google.com; do you have any additional recommendations? I think I can also track down some of the sources the Dalton thesis cites.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:05, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Name Change
I changed my username here to User:Rachel Helps (BYU) and made another account for personal edits under User:Rwelean. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 21:35, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Lucinda Lee Dalton
 —♦♦ AMBER  (ЯʘCK)  00:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC) 12:02, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Addition for HBLL
Hi Rachel. As mentioned, can you please add a link to external links on the HBLL page to ScholarsArchive? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.112.14 (talk) 20:19, 4 May 2016 (UTC)


 * yes, no problem! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:25, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Vasco M. Tanner
Thanks for your edits expanding Vasco M. Tanner. A word of advice: while content on his personal life sourced from a biography written by his daughters may be useful, care should be taken so that it does not give undue emphasis to relatively minor details, or introduce a biased tone from a likely biased source, per WP:NPOV (in my opinion, details like "He helped milk cows, mow and rake hay, and transported livestock and goods to Payson..." are especially unessential). An encyclopedic article should emphasize what a person is most known for, as determined by amount of coverage in independent, reliable sources (of which the biography may be neither, especially if self-published). While the article can certainly be expanded, an ideal article structure would emphasize Tanner's scientific career and accomplishments, while still maintaining an impartial tone (neither glorifying nor denigrating), but simply reporting the facts. Facts and details of lesser weight should be given proportionally little coverage. Similarly, there are several tributes to Tanner in the 1970 Great Basin Naturalist, but given they are part of a tribute issue, care should be taken to extract relevant facts without turning Wikipedia into a tribute article. All the best, --Animalparty! (talk) 23:36, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Proper section
Hi Rachel, hope you are doing well! I saw your question when you added Jokhang to the list of good articles, and thought I would stop by and try to answer your question. I actually think maybe that article belongs in Art and architecture, specifically in the Architecture – Religious subtopic, similar to the article Badrinath Temple. However, I haven't read the article; I'm assuming it is mostly about the building. If it is about the religious group of people that meet in the building, then you were closer to the right place; although maybe it goes in the Religious congregations, denominations, and organizations sub-subtopic? If the article is more about a religious symbol, then you put it in the right place. Have a great day, Prhartcom (talk) 18:40, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:15, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

A request
Hi Rachel Helps, perhaps you can help! I've been developing the article Ralph Vary Chamberlin for some time, and am trying to acquire as much secondary literature about him as possible. The Harold B. Lee Library has some rare materials. I'm especially interested in the following:
 * List of publications of Dr. Ralph V. Chamberlin to June 1st, 1944 (AC 901 .A1a no.1369)
 * The Ralph Vary Chamberlin honor banquet, December 2, 1957, University of Utah. (BX 8608 .A1 no.337)
 * Ralph V. Chamberlin oral history interview, transcripts (MSS OH 238)

Are you able to make any of these these available online? Or alternatively, would you be willing to scan and email these to me? Thanks for all you do, --Animalparty! (talk) 22:30, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


 * We do have a scanning department, but I'm not sure if they'd be up for scanning whole books. I'll check the items out today to see how long they are and get back to you later today or Wednesday. It might be more efficient for me to simply take a few photos or try to extract relevant information myself. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 14:29, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Animalparty I didn't realize it from looking at the call numbers, but all of these items were in our special collections, which means I couldn't take photos of them, but I will request to have the works list and transcript to be scanned. I took a few pages of notes in case the scanning takes a long time, but it should be done in about a week. The honor banquet program was short enough that I was able to take notes on pretty much the whole thing. I'll add the information from the banquet program to the page today or later this week.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that sounds great! --Animalparty! (talk) 17:49, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * User:Animalparty I e-mailed you Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:51, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Reference errors on 7 April
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Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Phou Phiang II
Hi, I just promoted a hook that you reviewed and read your comment about the wikilinking. True, we could run every hook with only the name of the article bolded, but to make hooks stand out in the list we also link place names and unfamiliar terms like pre-teen soldiers. We see that readers do indeed click on these additional terms, though not in the same volume as clicks on the main article. But we do not link common terms, like World War II (and although hook writers do link this term way too often, I always unlink it while it is in the prep sets). Although there are a lot of rules at DYK, much of it is common sense. Keep an eye on the hooks on the main page, or those awaiting promotion at T:DYKQ, and you'll get a better feel for the wikilinking. If you have any questions about nominating or reviewing a DYK, you can drop me a line on my talk page. Best, Yoninah (talk) 17:01, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification!Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:02, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your courtesy in this matter. I may have inadvertently seemed a bit curt in my message, for which I am sorry. I realize that to a newbie, WP's mass of rules can seem overwhelming, but if you are going to be hanging with the DYK community, you may want to read up on the DYK rules, including the supplements. When your head quits spinning in this new environment, perhaps. In the meantime, welcome to WP's DYK set.Georgejdorner (talk) 22:39, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Primrose International Viola Archive
WormTT(talk</b>) 21:22, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Nellie Gubler
Gatoclass (talk) 15:37, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for David Dalton (violist)
Gatoclass (talk) 14:38, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

GLAM Boot Camp announced (June 14-16 in DC)
You have expressed interest in the GLAM-Wiki US Consortium, so you may be interested in attending the GLAM Boot Camp next month in Washington, DC. This is a training designed to help Wikipedians interested in guiding museums, libraries, and other cultural institutions in wiki engagement. Travel funding available for those in North America. Since the event is coming up soon, please be sure to add your name to the page if you are interested -- and please pass this announcement along. (You may want to share on Facebook or on Twitter.) Thanks for your interest! -MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:24, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Link for GLAM Boot Camp
My apologies - here is the link for the GLAM Boot Camp mentioned above: GLAM/Boot Camp. -Pete (talk) 04:30, 5 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link! I'm going to see if BYU is interested in having one of my students apply. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Removed Utah county category from Provo?
While you are correct (Provo is indeed a city in Utah County), Provo, Utah has its own category, which includes the Provo, Utah page (article). That category (Provo, Utah) is subcategory of the Cities in Utah County, Utah category. In most cases, pages (articles) and categories should not be included in both a parent category and one of its immediate subcategories. However, the Provo, Utah page should be included in several other categories, such as Cities in Utah (even though Cities in Utah County, Utah is a sub-subcategory of the Cities in Utah category).

Hope that clarifies the action. An Errant Knight (talk) 17:46, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Please check ...
... my edits to Jane Elizabeth Manning James where I fixed the typoed century numbers. I think I got the obvious ones, but you might give it another go over. I think it must've been typing all those bibliography refs that left you stuck in the 1900's? Shenme (talk) 02:35, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Celestia Taylor
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:33, 26 July 2016 (UTC)