User talk:Rachel Helps (BYU)/Archive 2

Where in North Dakota Is Carmen Sandiego?‎
Good morning Rachel Helps !

Thank you for your measured response to my DYK nomination. I thank you for clarifying various DYK related rules (I am a relative newcomer in that corner of Wikipedia), and agree that despite the annoyance, that the correct decision is for the declining of the nomination, as in keeping with the DYK rules.

As you suggested on the nomination discussion, I have written to your personal account, in order to ask if you would perhaps care to do a copyedit of the article in order to fix things up and help take it to the next level? The gathering of sources is rather difficult too. For instance while various contemporary sources from c. 1989 exist in GoogleBooks and GoogleNews, my view is often restricted to "snippets"; perhaps you know a way to aid me there?

Once again, I appreciate your willingness to engage in a constructive dialogue with me about this article. I look forward to your response.--Coin945 (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Coin945. I was noticing today that filling out all the fields on a citation isn't required for the Good Article review--citations only need to be sufficient that the reader can tell where/what the source is. So we can probably leave them as-is, although part of me would really like to fill them out! One other thing the article will need is for most or all of the citations to not be in the lead--the lead summarizes the entire article, so the idea is that you only need to cite the information once. Also, I was about to go through and put your periods inside the quotation marks, but I checked the MOS and I realized that I would have messed things up.


 * I put in an InterLibrary Loan (ILL) request for the Nibble article, and for the Education Computer News article, since the BYU library doesn't have either. Our ProQuest database did have the Grand Forks Herald, but the January 1992 issues were inexplicably missing :-/. It was hard to see how useful the InCider source is--of the older print sources, which ones are the most important? I guess it's hard to know from the Google Books snippets. I'll see how those two ILLs come out--I've never requested an article through ILL before and I'm curious to see if the information from Google Books gives enough information to get the real thing. If it works out I can request the other two articles as well.


 * The other thing that you're probably aware of that I'm not as well versed in is the definition of Reliable Sources for videogame articles. I think the videogame Wikiproject had some advice on it--are you worried about that at all?Rwelean (talk) 04:08, 6 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Good afternoon, it's great to hear from you! I do intend to fix/tidy up all of the citations. Now that the gathering of sources stage is mostly over, the copyediting stage can commence. That includes the fixing up of the lead. I think the entire article needs a once or twice over... copyediting isn't my strongest suit so I may need to find help with that. I have never used the InterLibrary Loan service so have no idea how it works; I thank you for putting in some requests for me. It can be hard to tell how useful a source is when you've only got snippets, but for such an obscure/rare title as this, I think we should after any available lead. Which brings me to the article sourcing. In general, games before the 2000s are extremely hard to source because of the loss of physical sources (magazines, design documents etc.). This is especially true of this game because of how rare it is. Therefore in my quest to gather sources I have had to use things like Twitter statuses (to demonstrate the 2016 developments), and a forum discussion (in which the game's lead designer commented that he still had a copy of the game), as no better sources exist. But the good news is that Cifaldi has been given many game-related documents by the game's creator so I can ask him to make them public for us to use in the article. :)--Coin945 (talk) 04:18, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Annie Poon
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DYK nomination of Priddy Meeks
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DYK for Priddy Meeks
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DYK nomination of Warren Angus Ferris
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DYK for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Ireland
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