User talk:Rachel Helps (BYU)/Archive 4

DYK for Desideria Quintanar de Yáñez
IronGargoyle (talk) 00:03, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Leonard J. Arrington
The article Leonard J. Arrington you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Leonard J. Arrington for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Midnightblueowl -- Midnightblueowl (talk) 19:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Congrats! ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 20:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

David O. McKay School of Education
Is this one of the articles you can help with? It needs some work, and also needs to have COI editors stop working on it (look at the history). ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 21:43, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out to me. I'll try e-mailing their PR person. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:45, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm having a hard time finding a really good article on a college within a university to use as a model. The most recent edits were actually just copyedits. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:28, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Derek R Bullamore's edits are pretty much copyedits. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 22:37, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Leonard J. Arrington
Hello! Your submission of Leonard J. Arrington at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:12, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks for letting me know! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 02:06, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Seyyed Abdollah Behbahani
Would you mind addressing this nomination? Thanks. -- M h hossein   talk 07:14, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Sorry my response was later than usual. I'm at Wikimania! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 02:03, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Betty Paoli
Alex ShihTalk 00:03, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia email
Hi! I know you emailed me, but I can't find it. I even checked the Spam filter. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:19, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Huh. Can you send an e-mail to me at Rachel underscore Helps at byu dot edu (no spaces)? ILL found the article, which I could upload to google drive or something, but e-mail seemed easier. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:55, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Megalibrarygirl Here is the article Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:00, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I've got it! Thank you so much! :D Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:06, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Traci Hunter Abramson
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

VEFriendly template
Just a quick note to let you know that VEFriendly does not play well with the Beta Feature for VisualEditor's new wikitext mode. So if your talk page develops a huge amount of raw HTML (probably more than doubling the page size), then that's likely the problem, and the immediate solution is to disable the Beta Feature by going to Special:Preferences. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi / Wikimania
Hi Rachel, it was really nice to meet you at Wikimania. I saw you helped with the creation of ISO 4 redirects today (BYU Stud. Q.). A big thanks for the help!

I don't know if you're interested in helping more in that area (Category:Articles with missing ISO 4 redirects), but you might at least want to check in Category:Brigham Young University publications to see if others are in need of redirects. Some of them you may have to check manually (e.g. if you type BYU Mag./BYU Mag, and they're red, their redirects are missing!).

Cheers! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 23:38, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi Headbomb, I'm happy to add the ISO 4 redirects to BYU publications, although I confess that I don't understand what they are for. Is there some kind of automatic Wikipedia search that happens with ISO 4 abbreviations? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:37, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
 * They're mostly helpful as likely search terms. If someone comes across something like J. Book Mormon Other Restor. Scr., both on Wikipedia and elsewhere [e.g. in the references section of some paper], chances are it's unlikely they'll know off the top of their head that this stands for Journal of the Book of Mormon and Other Restoration Scripture. They also help with WP:JCW/WP:JCW/TAR, but that's a secondary benefit. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:00, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Matt Page (artist)
Alex ShihTalk 00:01, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Good one, thank you! 24 hours, says the archive, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:00, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * thanks! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:20, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

LDS related Fraternities and Sororities.
I've been looking over the next month of so to create/improve the articles for the Latter Day Saint related Fraternities and Sororities. There are three in the 1991 Baird's Manual of American College Fraternities Delta Phi Kappa (fraternity), Sigma Gamma Chi (fraternity), and Lambda Delta Sigma (co-ed and then sorority) (and currently just a redirect), unfortunately the entries in the 1991 Baird's Manual are copied from the 1977 edition. In addition to Baird's I think that the following could be good references.
 * https://www.ldschurchnewsarchive.com/articles/20972/History-of-the-fraternity-for-returned-missionaries-is-presented-to--Church.html *https://www.lds.org/ensign/1986/09/the-lds-greeks-lambda-delta-sigma-and-sigma-gamma-chi?lang=eng are likely to be significant references
 * https://news.hjnews.com/news/delta-phis-come-home/article_b5c5f6cf-cbd7-540d-ae19-f61f90cc5b5e.html

I thought that you or one of your workers might be interested and while I'm not sure of you're ability to get things out of the Church History Department, you'd have a much better chance of getting your hands on the 295 page history of Delta Phi Kappa mentioned in the first reference link than I would. (And as an unrelated issue, how much access do you have to information about Alpha Phi Omega (scouting/service fraternity) in the BYU archives?)Naraht (talk) 16:41, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Also, it looks like William G. Hartley was the one who wrote a history of Delta Phi Kappa. I would imagine that his name is not unfamiliar to you. :)Naraht (talk) 16:58, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your interest :-). We do have relevant sources for those fraternity and sorority pages, like the Delta Phi Kappa Fraternity history. Would information about Delta Phi Kappa go on the Sigma Gamma Chi page, or should Delta Phi Kappa be its own page? It looks like we have a folder of information about Alpha Phi Omega in our BYU Club file. I'll put the pages on our to-do list, though it may be a while before we get to working on them! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:37, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * You have the book, but the question is how to use it for the article. :) I think Delta Phi Kappa should be its own page. Sigma Gamma Chi was split from Lambda Delta Sigma first, and *then* Delta Phi Kappa was merged with it. I think I've got enough to start Lambda Delta Sigma and Delta Phi Kappa once I get the redirects/dab pages handled. Delta Phi Kappa was a redirect to the University of Southern California, Lambda Delta Sigma to a DAB two groups, and no page for the other.
 * The Alpha Phi Omega at BYU is mostly for personal interest, but as much for Notable Alumni, BYU was the first chapter in Utah, UofU was second and had a number of notable Church members become honorary brothers at UofU's chartering, I was wondering if any at BYUs chartering.Naraht (talk) 18:52, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * yeah, the information on Alpha Phi Omega may or may not be in the folder we have on it. If it's really important I can go look at it; it takes at least 20 minutes to look at anything in the archives. If you have a problem with the Delta Phi Kappa page's notability, we can add the information from the history sooner rather than later. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:05, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem on Alpha Phi Omega, you get to when you get there. :) If Delta Phi Kappa gets hit by a notability tag, I'll ping you. Right now I'm trying to list schools that Sigma Gamma Chi existed at, starting with the Ensign article. This is complicated by the dozen or so chapters that it had at UofU, which complicates making a chapter list different.Naraht (talk) 19:15, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Cynthia B. Lee
— Maile (talk) 00:03, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

DYK nomination of William A. Wilson (folklorist)
Hello! Your submission of William A. Wilson (folklorist) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 12:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

DYK for William A. Wilson (folklorist)
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Account creator granted
Hi, I have assigned the account creator user group again. Good luck with the class! Alex Shih (talk) 18:23, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
 * thank you! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:35, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia-integrated academic journal
Hi, I'm messaging to ask whether you might be interested in being an editor for the WikiJournal of Humanities? It's a journal modelled on the successful Wikipedia-integrated medical journal (www.WikiJMed.org). The editorial board aims to cover a range of fields and expertise across the huumanities, arts, social sciences, and allied fields.

It couples the rigour of academic peer review with the extreme reach of the encyclopedia. It is therefore an excellent way to achieve public engagement, outreach and impact public understanding of humanities (articles often get >100,000 views per year).

Peer-reviewed articles are dual-published both as standard academic PDFs, as well as directly into Wikipedia. This improves the accuracy of the encyclopedia, and rewards academics with citable, indexed publications. It also provides much greater reach than is normally achieved through traditional scholarly publishing.

Based on my experiences, time commitment is pretty flexible. An editor would generally devote 2-10 hours per month to inviting suitable submissions and organise their external peer review:
 * Identify fully missing Wikipedia topics and invite academics to write broad review articles on them (e.g. this)
 * Identify important, but poorly covered topics and invite experts to update or overhaul them (e.g. this)
 * Invite authors of good Wikipedia pages to put their articles through external peer review (like this)
 * Possibly implement some figure or gallery review articles (e.g this and this)

Hopefully it will help to get experts, academics and professionals to contribute content to the encyclopedia via a more familiar and cv-rewarding academic journal format.

Anyway, let me know if it's the sort of thing that might interest you, or those you have worked with. PS. A relevant article in Science and a more in-depth one in Health inform

T.Shafee(Evo &#38; Evo)talk 23:46, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Any edit-a-thons planned?
Are you planning to do any more of these? I'll be happy to help out if you do. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 21:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm doing some editing trainings for our librarians in the next two weeks as part of the #1lib1ref campaign. As you know my previous edit-a-thons have not been very well-attended, so I've been trying to do more trainings as a part of BYU classes. I was thinking of having an edit-a-thon centered on improving the criticisms sections for works of Orson Scott Card to promote our OS Card collection--maybe Leading Edge and their readers would be interested in such an event? I also think that Better Days 2020 might be willing to collaborate on an edit-a-thon, but I want to see if I can get a few BYU professors interested too.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 22:00, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Let me know if you want me to come help with anything. Trainings, edit-a-thons, or whatever. I'm willing to help. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 23:51, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Account creator granted
After reviewing your request for the "accountcreator" permission, I have enabled the flag on your account. Keep in mind these things: If you no longer require the right, let me know, or ask any other administrator. Drop a note on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of the account creator right. Happy editing! TonyBallioni (talk) 13:25, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The account creator right removes the limit on the maximum number of new accounts that can be created in a 24-hour period.
 * The account creator right is not a status symbol. If it remains unused, it is likely to be removed. Abuse of the account creator right will result in its removal by an administrator.
 * Just an FYI that I assigned this without an expiration after looking at your user rights log and talking about it with an ACC tool admin and other administrators on the English Wikipedia admins IRC channel. You use it enough that having it assigned indefinitely seems to make the most sense. TonyBallioni (talk) 13:28, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! One less thing to worry about with my trainings and classes. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:54, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mildred Dilling
Hello! Your submission of Mildred Dilling at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:52, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mildred Dilling
Gatoclass (talk) 00:04, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

Disclosure
Hello: I would especially ask that your group place a talk page template (See, Conflict of Interest) because that's really the only way a reader has an honest chance find out, they are reading a communication paid for in whole or in part by your institution (think of what one sees in newspapers when a guest columnist has listed their affiliation at the bottom of an article)  Thanks

(I placed them at Talk:Laura Bridgewater and Talk:Denise Stephens)-- Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:27, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you think these templates should be placed on every page we work on? Of course, the pages we work on are all connected to BYU, but some subjects only have their papers in our special collections, while others have worked for BYU. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:44, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * My sense is yes, even if some would not consider the article to be advertising your holdings (or whether that's a good thing or not), it's still best to be open about it to any potential reader -- it's more information for them, at the least --Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:53, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I realized that this issue affects other Wikipedians-in-residence (WiRs). I don't want to set a precedent for tagging every talk page that a WiR works on; disclosing affiliation on the author's user page should be enough. I'm aware that the paid editing guidelines encourage users to tag talk pages, but it is not required. I want to show you that this issue is important to me though, so I did put a paid template on pages that me and my students have created that we are directly connected to (L. Tom Perry Special Collections, International Harp Archives, and Primrose International Viola Archive). Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:52, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Good article nomination
Hi Rachel. We've both nominated articles for Good Article status in the Culture, sociology and psychology area. As it will probably take some months for the reviews to run their course at the current rate, I offer to review Mormon folklore if you will review Humanlight. If agreeable, there'd be no guarantee of an approved review in both cases—just a good faith offer to advise on what's needed to get it across the finish line if the article is just short of GA status. Thanks! --Airborne84 (talk) 14:33, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Please disregard; I went in a different direction. --Airborne84 (talk) 01:10, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner! Best of luck with your GA review. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 19:45, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Marjorie Schick
Hi Rachel. I've been reading your comments on the Marjorie Schick review and thought I should let you know that it was I who found the quote which is now under discussion. It is my understanding that the "blockquote" rule is based on cases where lengthy quotations are inserted in the body of the text. In such cases, it is important for the quote to be distinguished from the running text. In this case, however, it does not form part of the running text but is an addition, rather like an illustration, which enhances understanding of the person. I'm sorry to hear that feels that it would be better to remove the quotation completely than to move it into the text as a blockquote. (The only place this possibly could be done would probably be at the very end of the article or as an external link, although neither would be satisfactory.) As the quotation is clearly labelled in the box in which it is now displayed, I think it fully coincides with the spirit of the law, so to speak. I therefore hope you will agree that it should be maintained. (Thanks, btw, for picking up the review so quickly. Articles are sometimes kept waiting for months for GA reviews.)--Ipigott (talk) 12:34, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Ipigott, the main reason I mentioned it is because the template itself states that it isn't advisable to use on articles. But on the other hand, it works well in the Marjorie Schick article and I'm fine to let it stay as-is. Hopefully no one will revoke my GA-reviewing license over it ;-). Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:49, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for your understanding.--Ipigott (talk) 21:16, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Precious two years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:00, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I'm feeling warm fuzzy wikilove. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:53, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

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This may be of interest to you
Especially the part about the new feature being useful for edit-a-thons. See the discussion here. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 18:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads-up! I tried out the Programs and Events Dashboard earlier this year--I think it still has some bugs to work out but overall it looks like a great way to track edits.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:54, 28 March 2018 (UTC)