User talk:Rachel Helps (BYU)/Archive 5

Help with McKay School–Related Pages
Hi, I have been working on Wikipedia for about a month now. I was wondering if you could look at the pages I have been editing and give me some feedback. Thanks in advance. Scd123 (talk) 16:34, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I wrote two drafts that are waiting for review, Draft:Richard Culatta and Draft talk:Joseph South. They are notable alumni of the McKay School. I am planning to write at least two more, but I don't want to keep making the same mistakes without knowing.
 * I have been editing David O. McKay School of Education, but got feedback that it is too verbose, so I have a shortened rough draft in my sandbox. (The references are not complete in the sandbox version.) If you could compare the two and let me know what you think, that would be great.

Nomination for deletion of Template:LDS-UK-States
Template:LDS-UK-States has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 18:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Glen Nelson
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DYK nomination of Wendy Watson Nelson
Hello! Your submission of Wendy Watson Nelson at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 14:21, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I just read your article. You may want to familiarize yourself with some of the guidelines for writing about women under WikiProject Women in Red/Essays/Primer for creating women’s biographies, especially Notability: Poorly written ledes include examples such as: X was the sister (daughter, wife, partner, mother) of Y. If you take away her marital status, is she still notable? (Marital status should be moved to "Personal life".) Best, Yoninah (talk) 14:31, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I agree that my lead was poorly written. I added some information to give her a claim to notability in the lead section. I don't think that her marital status should be removed from the lead though, because it's still one of the things she's most famous for (Barry Van Dyke's page mentions his father in the lead; Alma Mahler's page mentions her husbands in the lead, as does Zina D. H. Young's page). Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:04, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Glen Nelson
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Wendy Watson Nelson
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Permissions switch
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Your GA nomination of Mormon folklore
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Your GA nomination of Mormon folklore
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DYK for Maurine Whipple
— Maile (talk) 00:26, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Mormon folklore
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DYK nomination of Mormon folklore
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:14, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Topaz War Relocation Center
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DYK for Mormon folklore
– Ianblair23 (talk) 01:30, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Sacca-kiriya
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

re: Leonard Arrington
If it is really important for you to have that information in an Infobox, there are options available https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_Latter_Day_Saint_biography Gene Wilson (talk) 16:57, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, thank you. The main reason I wanted to include religion is because I just finished writing a bunch of the Mormon studies page where the religion of the person doing history was important. I couldn't find a field for religion on the Latter Day Saint biography template, but I was able to add his position as church historian. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:42, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Brian Kershisnik
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Tu Books article
This might interest you and your project, since Stacy Whitman attended BYU. There's a DYK nom here. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 18:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, nice page! I think our 21st century curator will be interested in the press. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:53, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you happen to know Stacy Whitman's e-mail address or her year of graduation? I think our curator is interested in making an inquiry. I found some of her social media contact info, but I think e-mail is easier for academic folk. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Mormon studies
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Your GA nomination of Brian Kershisnik
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Your GA nomination of Brian Kershisnik
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 * Thank you! Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:14, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Ingathering
I saw your edit and had a question. I have this book, and I've seen covers for various other editions of it, and none of them show "of Zenna Henderson" in the title. I suppose there could be a collection I haven't seen (it's happened), but even ISFDB] doesn't show any with "of Zenna Henderson". Do you have an edition that does? ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 16:43, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I just looked up the ISBN on worldcat. This record has the subtitle, while this entry lists simply "Ingathering" but has the same cover photo. Our catalog record includes the subtitle. On further examination of the actual cover, I don't see "of Zenna Hendersen" in the title--but the author name is weirdly wedged between the title and subtitle. So I think I incorrectly corrected the title. I'm asking my friend in cataloging if there's a reason it's listed that way in our catalog. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:53, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree the placement of the author's name is odd. NESFA does things like that sometimes. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 17:05, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * When I get home, I can check the title page to see if it's listed differently there. Some publishers do that, too. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 17:06, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, my friend said that the title in the catalog probably comes from the title page. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:08, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * NESFA Press, the publishers of the book give the title as Ingathering: The Complete People Stories, without "of Zenna Hendersen". That was the source of my edits here. BTW the title page doesn't have "of Zenna Hendersen". —Bruce1eetalk 17:16, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay, sorry about that! Not sure why my usual sources were incorrect. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:20, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Not a problem! The Worldcat entry looks authentic, but that does raise the question: just how accurate is Worldcat? —Bruce1eetalk 17:34, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Worldcat is rife with errors. I would not trust it for anything other than a book existing without verifying it from other sources. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 17:38, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Mormon studies
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Topaz War Relocation Center
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DYK for Brian Kershisnik
Vanamonde (talk) 00:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Request for Clarification
It was the above mentioned DYK that attracted me to this article, but when reading it over, I was confused by a line in the middle of the Process and Style section:


 * His use of unusually large or small objects and textual inscriptions to heighten the otherworldly sense in his paintings.

That sentence seems to be a fragment as there is no verb, so I'm not certain what I'm supposed to think about his use of objects and text. You added a major portion of that paragraph on 2018 February 14‎ at 13:07.

Thank you for keeping us informed.

WesT (talk) 17:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Oops, I'm not sure why I wrote a sentence without a verb. I fixed it on the page. Thanks your help. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

That Pitman article in the Latin wiki
FYI: Your phrase "Pitmanianis scripti" isn't grammatical: the form of each word is possible, but the syntax doesn't work. IacobusAmor (talk) 12:14, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
 * yeah, sorry, it's been years since I studied Latin in high school! Thanks for making a coherent caption. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 15:19, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Topaz War Relocation Center
Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Library fights...
Those students that you've have that have put a space before the ( versus those who haven't...Naraht (talk) 17:23, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Haha, right? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:08, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * And you on "Team Space".Naraht (talk) 18:17, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joseph Forbes (educator) has been accepted
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About the now deleted article Joseph Forbes (educator) - please let know if you want to get the deleted content
Hi Rachel, I reviewed the content of Joseph Forbes (educator) and unfortunately it was substantially the same as the as the content of the article that was deleted via Articles for deletion/Joseph Barlow Forbes. As far as I can see, there were no WP:COPYVIO and (obviously) no WP:BLP concerns about either version of the content. Please let me know if you want to see and edit the deleted content again. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:28, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi Shirt58, I don't need the deleted content. I do think that this page was substantially different from when it was deleted, and should not have been speedily deleted. When the page was deleted, it had basically only one source and two or three in-text citations. I added at least four newspaper sources. The original deletion nomination mentioned: "Coverage found in searches for independent, reliable sources is limited to a couple of minor name checks." This is not what I found. I found an entry on Forbes in a book on Utah history that was almost a whole page. I found a newspaper article that mentioned his life and achievements in detail years after he passed away in conjunction with the two high schools named after him. I found a contemporary newspaper account of Forbes day, and later when his grandson wrote his biography, several reviews were published. He was not merely a high school teacher--he helped establish the public school system in Utah and influenced three generations of schoolchildren in American Fork. Could you please reconsider the speedy deletion and if you feel the article still merits deletion, give it another formal deletion nomination? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:39, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Looking at the speedy deletion policy again, I am confident that the page did not meet criteria for G4. It explicitly excludes "content that has been moved to user space or converted to a draft for explicit improvement". Please make sure you are looking at the right diff for the original deletion. After the original deletion, the page was converted to a draft, which I heavily edited. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe you speedily deleted this page incorrectly. Could you please explain? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:08, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see that you restored the page to Thmazing's sandbox. Thank you. I waited months for the page to be approved through the draft submission process. Could you please restore the page to the mainspace, or am I allowed to do that? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:21, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd be happy to restore it for you if Shirt58 is too busy. After reading it, I think it meets WP:N and WP:V. If it hasn't been restored by tomorrow, just ping me. ··· 日本穣 ·  投稿  · Talk to Nihonjoe ·  Join WP Japan ! 20:17, 20 November 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Joseph Forbes (educator)
Hello! Your submission of Joseph Forbes (educator) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 19:25, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi, I promoted your hook to Prep 5, but I have a question. The hook makes it sound like Forbes taught Dempsey boxing. I would like to know if Dempsey was his student when Dempsey was a boy, which would make it "future boxing champion"? Yoninah (talk) 12:37, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Joseph Forbes taught Dempsey when Dempsey was in school. I imagine it was things like reading/writing/arithmetic commonly taught at the time, and certainly not boxing.Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 16:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Yoninah (talk) 17:14, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Please see new note on your DYK nomination. Yoninah (talk) 17:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination
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Your GA nomination of Merrill Bradshaw
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