User talk:Radiobums

January 2011
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APDTA
APDTA is an abbreviation that stands for "All Praises Due to Allah." APDTA is also a registered trademark® and brand used by www.nation19.com a street wear clothing line.

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Your submission at Articles for creation
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Proposed deletion of APDTA
Hello, Radiobums, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia!

I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you worked on, APDTA, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:


 * 1) edit the page
 * 2) remove the text that looks like this:
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It helps to explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the Help Desk. Thanks again for contributing! Nat Gertler (talk) 15:20, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about APDTA
Hello, Radiobums, and thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!

I wanted to let you know that some editors are discussing at Articles for deletion/APDTA whether the article APDTA should be in Wikipedia. I encourage you to comment there if you think the article should be kept in the encyclopedia.

The deletion discussion doesn't mean you did something wrong. In fact, other editors may have useful suggestions on how you can continue editing and improving APDTA, which I encourage you to do. If you have any questions, feel free to ask at the Help Desk.

Thanks again for your contributions! Nat Gertler (talk) 19:38, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Nation19


A tag has been placed on Nation19, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. — Jean Calleo (talk) 07:32, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011
Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself, as you did with Nation19. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion, which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the article's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the article. Thank you. — Jean Calleo (talk) 08:24, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Nation19


A tag has been placed on Nation19, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Gaijin42 (talk) 18:36, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Nation19
Hello, Radiobums, and thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!

I wanted to let you know that some editors are discussing at Articles for deletion/Nation19 whether the article Nation19 should be in Wikipedia. I encourage you to comment there if you think the article should be kept in the encyclopedia.

The deletion discussion doesn't mean you did something wrong. In fact, other editors may have useful suggestions on how you can continue editing and improving Nation19, which I encourage you to do. If you have any questions, feel free to ask at the Help Desk.

Thanks again for your contributions! Gaijin42 (talk) 18:41, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Hi there, I was wondering why you removed the Hanafi murders section from the Elijah Muhammad article? Njsamizdat (talk) 16:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


 * wiki stalker here - According to the section deleted, Elijah was not charged, but was suspected. Who suspected? What evidence, etc. I think such an accusation requires more detail, and a more narrowly defined reference than entire book (a chapter number at least, preferably a page number. ) You cannot associate every action (positive or negative) taken by members of nation of islam to their leader, without evidence.  Gaijin42 (talk) 17:10, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Just like the previous person stated...what does that have to do with Elijah Muhammad. He was never involved in a murder. That is why I deleted it. Radiobums (talk) 20:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

I keep adding that his death has been debated by Jabril Muhammad who wrote a book claiming that he is still alive. Why does my entry keep getting taken off? According to the Book Is it Possible that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad is physically alive...his death is debatable. Also there are several other writers who share the same facts of his so-called death. So please leave: Its debatable that Elijah Muhammad died from congestive heart failure at age 77 on February 25, 1975, the day before Saviours' Day, at Mercy Hospital in Chicago, Illinois.[19] There are several irrefutable books that claim that Mr. Muhammad is physically alive. The Book claims that he escaped a death plot.

Thank you. Radiobums (talk) 20:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

death of elijah muhommad
The reason your content is getting deleted, is that what you are trying to add clearly falls under WP:FRINGE multiple WP:RS indicate the subjects death, and a single, non reliable book, does not refute that. You have claimed that the book is "irrefutable", but give no evidence to support that. At most you could add a seperate sentence which included the fringe theory, but it would need to be clearly identified as such, and not listed as the primary information in the death section. Gaijin42 (talk) 17:40, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok, so a man who is a Minister in the Nation of Islam who lived with Elijah Muhammad for six years who is considered the highest minister under louis Farrakhan is considered by Wiki an unreliable source? Minister Jabril Muhammad the author of the book I'm referencing writes a column every week in the Nation's newspaper (The Final Call, www.finalcall.com) on the "facts" in his book. Minister Frrakhan has been quoted on several notable news sources claiming the same thing as Jabril. Radiobums (talk) 20:37, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes. He is considered an unreliable source. Please note, I am not trying to insult, you, Elijah, NOI, or the author : He has his own motives, he is not a disinterested, neutral, uninvolved 3rd party on the truth of if Elijah is alive or not (or for any issue involving his own organization. He is at best, a primary source for the information (he is reporting on his own knowledge). As well, the finalcall is not an independant reliable news source. Just as the newspaper of any religion is not. Please read WP:RS and WP:Verifiability. Similarly, wikipedia cannot report the "fact" of the virgin birth of jesus, based on statements from the pope. At best we can say "It is the position of the pope that..." In this case, if the author is speaking in an official capacity on this matter for the nation of Islam, I think the item can be worthy of inclusion, but It must not be presented as "the truth", but clearly idenitified as the position of the church, which is in conflict with official reports. Even then, this is my personal opinion, and consensus would need to be reached about the reliability of the source, and how WP:FRINGE and WP:UNDUE would interact on this matter. Gaijin42 (talk) 20:55, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Signing posts
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Thank you I'm very new to the Wiki language Radiobums (talk) 20:36, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

nation of islam editing
So, wikipedia is n encyclopedia. In some cases the encyclopedia may report things that conflict with the image or reputation of people, organizations etc. You have been deleting information from the elijah article, which is well sourced. This is considered vandalism. This may be information that the church, (officially) says is not true, or just does not like, or maybe just individual followers blieve it to be so. In any case, wikipedia does not represent the views of the church, or its members, but what is available in reliabile source. This is the case, even if the information may not be true (Wikipedia policy is Verifiability, not Truth) - as long as it has not been factually disproven in independant third party source. Removing of this information is vandalism, and if you persist, you will be blocked from editing. This could entail being blocked from all articles involving Nation of Islam, Islam in general, or even a ban from all of wikipedia. If you have counter information to present, which is reported in WP:RS reliable sources, then you can add it. Please be sure to realize that church documents and publications likely do not count for anything even vaguely controversial,. and at best could be used to add additional information in the style of "It is the official position of the Nation of Islam that..." This is not an official warning, but a friendly one - if you persist, someone else is likely to give you an official warning, or even take action without warning. Gaijin42 (talk) 21:03, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Your article submission Nation19 / APDTA


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 * The image is fine, as the email has been recieved by the OTRS team under ticket number. So don't need to worry about it. I have already made the modifications needed to the page. If you have any furtherquestions please leave a message on my talk page. And I will answer back as soon as possible. --Clarkcj12 (talk) 00:46, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Bars4Justice (January 1)
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Nation19 and Draft:Bars4Justice
With relation to the above articles, I can see that you are a major contributor to them both. Out of curiosity, to what level are you associated with the magazine Nation19 and to the documentary? Thanks. Uamaol (talk) 03:26, 25 January 2016 (UTC)