User talk:Radpark1

Coldplay
Why do you consider Coldplay to be British, when they are clearly from England and are therefore English? Gary King ( talk ) 17:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Everyone from The United Kingdom (Scotland, England, Northern Ireland or Wales) nationality is British. All 4 Countries share the same Passport which under nationality says British. Same as someone from the Florida USA nationality is American not Floridian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radpark1 (talk • contribs)
 * English is a country. People from England call themselves English, not British; English is a more specific term than British. Florida, on the other hand, is a state, not a country. Gary King ( talk )  17:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

No they do not public opinion holds that most people consider themselves British.In The UK there is one music chart it is the British Music chart same as the Brits award ceremony it isn't an English or Welsh etc ceremony And regardless of that being true or not, it is Fact. Anyone living in the UK is British doesn't matter what people think officially everyone is British.

Not all of Coldplay are from England, even if they were, British would be more accurate. If English is used, it should all in lower case as an adjective, not a nationallity. 192.28.65.210 (talk) 10:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Specifics
"Britain" is broad. "Wales" or "England" or "Scotland" is more specific. Specific information is useful in an encyclopedia. Removing specific information and replacing it with broad information is not so useful. If you are trying to make some sort of political point with your edits, it is disruptive to Wikipedia. I invite you to stop changing the names of various British countries with 'Britain,' because your edits are removing useful information. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:44, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

My comments are not political but of matter of fact. Under one of your pages on the site British Nationality you will clearly see that you have stated that anyone from the UK is British. It is more specific for all the bands as you list there city or town of origin that is being more specific but your comments are inaccurate and unfounded. If Coldplay were born in the UK that makes them British.


 * Please don't make any more edits like this without including a reference that the band shares your perception of nationality. See also WP:NOR. Please sign your comments on talk pages like this one by typing ~ . Thanks, --John (talk) 17:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nationality is something you are born with/into Coldplay are British it is not matter of politics or of popular debate it is Fact. Perhaps it is you that needs the reference to support the claim that Coldplay have rejected their British Nationality.


 * No, on the contrary, it's been pointed out to you above that English is more precise than British. For that reason we use English, unless there are special reasons not to. Hope that makes sense. --John (talk) 18:24, 30 April 2008 (UTC

England is more specific as Country of origin, however English as a Nationality is incorrect is my point. People from England are British not English their passports, birth certificates and driving licenses identify them as British. Same as someone from Northern Irish is British not Northern Irish or Scotland is British not Scottish. Nationality is something that everyone in the UK shares, which is why freedom of movement is allowed between the 4 constituent countries (England Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales)because Everyone from these countries holds the same passport and Nationality. I am Not saying that everyone from England considers themselves British however by law and birth they are British.
 * That's a very nice political statement you're making, but it has nothing to do with whether changing 'This band is from Wales' to 'This band is from Britain' makes an article more informative. It doesn't.  Thank you for stopping. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 20:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

It is not a political statement it is a matter of fact. With the exception of the Stereophonics article I changed, the rest were correct. You can keep that they are from Wales. When you state that Coldplay are English you are incorrect. Coldplay are from England Yes, however their nationality remains British. I don't understand the problem any encyclopedia will have their nationality as British because English is not an official Nationality! I appreciate you not wanting me to edit wikipedia over this again, However I cant understand how you don't see my point?!?!

I agree with you, British/English is not a political point, it is a matter of fact. For sport, legal systems, education and some politics there is a distinction for music there is not. What is the difference between an england band and a scottish band. Nothing. 86.163.86.6 (talk) 18:45, 6 July 2008 (UTC)