User talk:Raevenrises

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¡Tchkung!
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 * The main source I would cite is the one cited by KnotTheUsual, which goes into extensive history of the bands influence in great detail:
 * https://rantalleycom.wordpress.com/2023/03/08/the-most-dangerous-band-in-seattle-the-story-of-tchkung/
 * So I would request undeletion, and then re-write the entry in such a way that this source is cited? Raevenrises (talk) 22:50, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think that source would be good enough, sorry. It is the personal blog of Chris Tharp. Now Tharp may be a writer and you may think it is good and reliable information, but the problem we have is that it is self published. No editor has reviewed the content, and the only person to select what will be published there is Tharp himself. The page WP:RS will describe reliable sources and what we are looking for from these. If there were a published book, for instance, that would be ideal. Other sources can be reliable too, including websites, but they would generally have some kind of editorial oversight. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 22:59, 11 March 2024 (UTC)