User talk:Raewong20181109

November 2018
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If you think that you were blocked in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text below this notice, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. Longhair\talk 09:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Is Vivien Yeo your client? 331dot (talk) 09:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.197.179.160 (talk) 09:50, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Please log in to your account and confirm that answer, so that we know it is really you. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:54, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * As Boing! said Zebedee stated above, you will need to comply with WP:COI and WP:PAID before you make any further edits. You should also read about edit requests. 331dot (talk) 09:55, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Yes it's me Raewong20181109 (talk) 09:57, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the confirmation; please review the policies I have indicated; WP:PAID is required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use. 331dot (talk) 10:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

May we know why we need to indicate this? She's our client but we aren't paid to do this edit. Just help her to fix some typo and upload her new images, she can do it by herself but she just asked us to do her a favor. Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:04, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If she is your client, you are a paid editor, even more so if she requested you edit for her. She doesn't need to pay you for the specific edit. She shouldn't edit the article about her either; she should make an edit request if she wishes to.(as should you) 331dot (talk) 10:07, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

We doesn't mean to start an argument here...but we thought Vivien never agreed using those old photos and with information irrelevant to her? Even the name of her own store is incorrect in the article...Please correct us if we are wrong here. Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:10, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If information in the article about her is incorrect, you need to make an edit request once you formally comply with WP:PAID. If the images were not properly released to Wikipedia and are violating copyright, you may follow the guidance at WP:COPYVIO. 331dot (talk) 10:14, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Hmm... just saying, isn't it ridiculous to ask Vivien, who never approve Wikipedia using her old photos, to submit a "request" and let somebody "approve" it...doesn't it sounds like kidnapping? The page is using all Vivien's information, but no one ever asked for her permission and check if Vivien herself wants to use that photo. What's the standpoint of Wikipedia's claim here? Just trying to understand. Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:19, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

FYI [Ticket#: 2018110610001782] copyright claim ticket submitted. Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:20, 9 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The request is necessary because, while I believe what you say, we don't know for certain you are who you say you are, so it must be examined carefully. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Vice versa, did anyone "credible" say the info is correct before the whole page is launched to the public... did anyone at least pay some respect to the person being mentioned in the page...no clue. Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:26, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:PAID is part of the Wikimedia Foundation's terms and conditions. If you don't like it, don't edit here. It is as simple as that - and there's no point your arguing here. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:29, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Never tried to argue, just trying to understand what's your standpoint beneath such "respectful" action. And seemed there aren't any. Anyway. If your team thinks acting like this is accurate, go ahead. :) Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:31, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I also now see that the photo currently in the article was uploaded by you, without evidence of appropriate copyright release. I have nominated it for deletion. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:34, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

What kind of evidence are required for a selfie. :) Do we needa ask her to take a video saying that she took the photo by herself? Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:36, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Please see Donating copyrighted materials. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:39, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

I think I did say we have submitted copyright claim and above is the ticket number. Please kindly take a few seconds to read, sir :-) No one ever get back about the ticket and a photo which she doesn't want to be online is sticking there. Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:40, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Ms Yeo does not get to decide (and certainly does not have the right to approve) what images are used in Wikipedia articles - the content of Wikipedia articles is not decided by what the subject wants or does not want. If there is a genuine copyright problem with either the photo originally in the article or with the new photo, then that will be dealt with according to Wikipedia policies, so please be patient and wait for your copyright claim to be dealt with. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:45, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Haha we did submitted copyright claim but no one is going to take a look on it. A full working week already. No replies. Uploading the right photo by ourselves immediately within a second trigger off your attention. That's what we called selective efficiency? Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:47, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Pay some respect to others before asking others to pay respect to your platform. That's a mutual thing. Raewong20181109 (talk) 10:47, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't see where anyone has been disrespectful to you or to Ms Yeo. We have simply been explaining Wikipedia policies. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

That's why I say "platform", it's not about you. We really don't understand the logic and it's really disrespectful in our eyes. Will you be happy to see someone posting a photo of you without your consent? For copyright we don't know what's it all about the old photo. Raewong20181109 (talk) 11:02, 9 November 2018 (UTC)