User talk:RafelR

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June 2023
Hello, I'm Adakiko. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Akula-class submarine, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Adakiko (talk) 04:08, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * I don't really have an specific source for it, unless deepstorm.ru counts but both the Sierra class and Akula class where designed with skewed propellers before the sale of 9 axis milling machines.
 * K-284 went into sea trials twice in October 1984, the propeller mounting on submarines is done early before being completed and rolled out of the production hall
 * Toshiba only sold 4 9 axis milling machines to the soviet union in late 1984, between 1979 and 1984 Toshiba only sold 5 and 3 axis machines to the soviet union.
 * It's one of those myths from the cold war, same as the idea that the soviets learnt their subs where noisy from the Walker spy ring. RafelR (talk) 04:27, 30 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia goes by what wp:Reliable sources (RS) state. The use of wp:original research, e.g. one's own knowledge does not meet RS. I can find a number of sources that support that content the the Akula-class subs were significantly quieter after the Toshiba sale. See also: Toshiba–Kongsberg scandal Global Security: Toshiba. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 02:26, 1 July 2023 (UTC)