User talk:Rafiullah Khan

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Speedy deletion nomination of Hafiz Shams Uddin


A tag has been placed on Hafiz Shams Uddin requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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December 2010
Hi, and welcome to Wikipedia! When adding the name of an individual to a list of notable people, it is important that the subject either have a pre-existing, properly sourced article on Wikipedia, or that you provide a footnote with a reference to a reliable source in order to establish their notability. The usual course of action is to create a separate article for the individual with sufficient references that prove their notability, and once it has been successfully established, their name may be added to the articles of the places, ethnic groups, etc they are associated with.

It is inappropriate to add an individual's multi-paragraph biography to another article that is not about the individual, as you did at Guliana, Gujrat, simply because articles should stay focused on the topic mentioned in their titles.

If you need further advice or help, please feel free to contact me or another editor! Thank you. AtticusX (talk) 15:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

In general, a person or organization added to a list should have a pre-existing article to establish notability. If you wish to create such an article, please confirm that your subject is notable according to Wikipedia's notability policy. '''Do not continue to simply re-add the same inappropriate material to multiple articles. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked'''. If you need help, please feel free to contact me or discuss the issue on the talk page of one of the articles. AtticusX (talk) 05:49, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

This is your last warning; the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 08:12, 28 December 2010 (UTC) Rafiullah Khan (talk) 04:46, 29 December 2010 (UTC) EdidIting was deleted without asking me. Please note that I belong to Village Guliana, Gujrat. Many details are known to me which I want to upload. This page has no details that show the history, culture and the present. My village is full of history and many known / famous people were of this villagge origin. I want to update the details one by one but you have put me on warning. Keep in mind presently nothing is availabe on internet about these details. Please let me know if you want me to continue and how? Regards, (Rafiullah Khan (talk) 11:18, 11 January 2011 (UTC)) I am still awaiting feedback from your side!

Hafiz Shams Uddin
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A Wikipedia article has to be based on reliable sources independent of the subject. These sources, or references, don't have to be available on the Internet, or even in English. History books or journal articles published in India would be OK, as long as the sources are cited. You can't put in information from your own memory or personal records. Don't discuss what you don't know or want to learn in a Wikipedia article. You can ask these questions in the talk page for the article. You can communicate with other editors with interests and knowledge of related areas by communicating on the talk page of related articles. Don't feel bad if the current article is deleted. Study the Wikipedia standards, work on a better article and provide references. You will be successful if the topic is notable. Feel free to ask me questions on my talk page. Good luck. Cullen328 (talk) 17:10, 30 December 2010 (UTC) Cullen328 (talk) 17:10, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. I see that you have added three references to this article to sources written by Malik Zaman. Could you please provide a bit more information about these sources? If they are from published books or journal articles then please provide the name of the publisher and date of publication. It would also be useful if you could provide the titles and the author's name in the Urdu alphabet, as this may help other editors to track them down. Phil Bridger (talk) 17:11, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Rafiullah Khan (talk) 11:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC) Hello, thank you for the details. All the books refered are printed and published in Urdu. Their titles are written first and the name of author afterward. These all books are publshed many times (number of editions)I can't write in Urdu here but I will have to get it by someone due keypad that I am using. Anwar-U-Shams Arifaan poetry in Punjabi language, printed many times in the past. Asool-e-Irfan is a small booklet first printed in 1924 AD. It is basically written in Persian and translated into Urdu. Above both books are written by Mian Shams Uddin. His Khasf Ul Qaboor is well known in the area. I am not sure or don’t have the details if these information are available in some government's records or not. We are in the process of getting his writings typed in computer and then I hope they will be available on internet as well. But it will take time. The reason of article about him was to collect the information / details related to him if anyone else has so that all of us can share them. Please do let me know how to get it done. Thanks

Hafiz Shams Uddin
Hafiz Shams Uddin RA Born: 		1839 Guliana, Kharian, Gujrat Died:		1902 Guliana, Kharian, Gujrat

Genres Sufiana Poetry in Punjabi, Booklet in Pesian on Tasawwuf and Khasf-ul-Qaboor knowledge and revelations.

Notable work	 Anwar-Ul-Shams ( his Arifana kalaam in Punjabi). Asool-e-Irfan ( Farsi language booklet on Tasawwuf) Identified numbers of Rusools, Sehabies, Shuhadas, especially nine yards long graves (9 Gazze) buried in the area.

Hafiz Shams Uddin RA a Great Sufi and Poet of Arifana Punjabi Kalaam of his times, had deep knowledge of Kashf-Ul-Qaboor. Identified number of Rusools, Sehabies, Shuhadas especially nine yards long graves (9 Gazze) who are buried in the areas of District Gujrat, Sialkot, Jehlum, Gujar Khan etc. and Khyber Pakhtunkhawa. Born, Lived and buried in Guliana, Tehsil Kharian District Gujrat. Writer of Anwar-Ul-Shams (his arifana majmuaa kalaam in Punjabi).

His Lineage

He belonged to Gujjar family. His forefathers were Hafiz for the past seven generations consecutivly and he himself was Hafiz-e-Quran too. He was WaliAllah, had great knowledge of Kashf-Ul-Qaboor and identified many buried in unknwon graves. He was Sufi poet and almost all of his work is based on Holy Quran and Hadeeth narrations.

His Upbringing Unfortunately not much information are available about his upbringing. We know that he was a scholar of Farsi and Arabic languages too as we have found many writings of him as well as poetry. We are seeking help from anyone who has some information about his written work to please contact us as we are compiling all of his work / writings.

His Poetic work He has written twelve siharfies and other sufiana poetry. Almost all of his poetry is based on Quranic verses and Ahadeeth. Time to time his majmuaa kalaam in Punjabi Language named Anwar-Ul-Shams has been printed and published by his followers. His poetry in Farsi and Arabic is also found but not complete writings are available at this time. We are seeking the assistance of anyone who has some information about him / his writings to please contact.

His revelation on Kashf-Ul-Qaboor He has been a great knowledge of Kashf-Ul-Qaboor as he identified many Rasools SA, Sehabies RA, Shuhadaas especially nine yards long graves (9 Gazze) buried in the areas of District Gujrat, Sialkot, Jehlum, Gujar Khan etc. and Khyber Pakhtunkhawa. One example is of Hazrat Qanmbeet AS (Grand Son of Hazrat Adam AS) at Barheela Shareef is also identified including many others.

His Persian writings He has written one booklet in persian language on Tassawuf that was punlished in 1924 AD along with translation in Urdu.

His Passing Away He passed away in 1902 AD and buried in Guliana. A tomb is constructed by his followers. He left without compiling or even collecting his writings / narrations. He used to narrate as and when it was revealed to him. His followers used to write down as they hear. Later on his elder son Mian Sana Ullah collected his Punjabi Sufiana kalaam from his followers and compiled.

Appeal If anyone has more information about him or his writings in Pesian (Farsi), Arabic or Punjabi. is requested to contact on e-mail: rafi.esm AT emirates.com who is his great grandson.

References -	Anwar-Ul-Shams (Punjabi arifana kalaam) Written by Hafiz Shams Uddin RA (Many times published in the past)

-      Asool-e-Irfan (Persian language writing on Tasawwuf) Writtem by Hafiz Shams Uddin, First printed in 1924 AD) -	Gujrat ke Aulia Allah (Urdu) written by Malik Zaman Advocate (Many times published)

-	Gujrat Tareekh ke Aine Main (Urdu) written by Malik Zaman Advocate (Many times published)

-	Hazrat Qunbeet AS ( Urdu) written by Malik Zaman Advocate (Many times published)