User talk:Ragesoss/Archive10

Thomas Henry Huxley
If you can spare time, please give your opinion on the THH talk page!

A user has deleted the 'Quotes' section near the end of Thomas Henry Huxley, and I would like some opinions on this. The content is listed on the Talk:Thomas Henry Huxley page (section 18).

Obviously, such a section is unusual, but there are good reasons for having it in the case of THH. First, it improves the biography by making it easier to understand the man: this would not be true of most scientists, but it is true of Huxley. Second, he was, and still is, quoted extensively. Some individual quotations of Darwin may be seen more often, but the range of topics in Huxley is not easily matched. Thirdly, unlike my critic, I don't think it contravenes the 'Wikipedia is not a directory' policy, and if it did I would argue that policy should be a guide, not an absolute. Options, it seems to me, are:
 * 1. section deleted, as now is
 * 2. section reinstated, as was
 * 3. section shortened and reinstated
 * 4. create a linked page 'Huxleyana' to put it in, flagged on the main page
 * 5. put it in Wikiquote (I am against this, both on grounds of remoteness (being on a different system, and little used, and on grounds that Wikiquote has developed into s place for longer excerpts taken from web sources)

Same user changed character of the Biographies section. This is a less significant change, but your thoughts are welcome. Macdonald-ross (talk) 06:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

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Problem user
Hi. I've recently been having trouble with the rather strange user at Celestial spheres, an article that Steve McCluskey e-mailed me to keep an eye on while he's taking a wikibreak. I see that you, along with Steve McClusky, have in the past initiated (rather abortively) an RFC about this user, who seems intent on inserting his own views of the history of science into various articles. Frankly, it doesn't look as though anyone but McCluskey, Logicus, and I have any interest in the Celestial spheres article at all, so its recent history is becoming essentially a slow-motion edit war between Logicus and me. (See the article's and my talk pages for some insight into the situation.) I'd like to figure out a better way of dealing with this problem, so if you have any suggestions about dealing with editors of this sort, I'd be happy to hear them. Deor (talk) 22:49, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Please be educationally relevant rather than mannerist
You have posted the following text on my User Talk page

"Please be civil

Logicus, please take care to treat other editors with respect. Steve McCluskey, myself, and now Deor have all at times been frustrated by edits from you that seem to us to promote idiosyncratic historical interpretations and/or original synthesis. But personal denigration, such as your characterizations of Deor in this edit, will not be tolerated.--ragesoss (talk) 01:22, 6 July 2008 (UT "

Might I respectfully suggest you should be more concerned with admonishing Deor for his outrageously dictatorial and grossly mistaken claim that material on the impetus dynamics of the celestial spheres is irrelevant to the article on the spheres and his repeated deletions of such educational material contributed by Logicus ?

Also note how other users, such as Coffeewhite recently for example, find Deor's uncivil deleting arrogance unacceptable. His irritating invention of spurious rules and dictatorial pronouncements of what he imagines to be Wikipedia policy as though he owned the company or were a member of staff would be amusing if he did not also take the timewasting liberty of deleting material without rational justification. Please do beware of siding with this quasi McCluskey sockpuppet against Logicus ! --Logicus (talk) 01:26, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Logicus, I have not taken any sides regarding the content dispute at celestial spheres, since I haven't been following the discussion closely. But derogatory personal comments are always unacceptable on Wikipedia.--ragesoss (talk) 01:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Logicus"


 * But you have very clearly taken sides in respect of berating what you arguably misrepresent as intolerable derogatory personal comments by Logicus, but do not condemn those of Deor against Logicus on the Talk page and in User Talk. Moreover you fail to say why Logicus's characterisation of Deor as imperious, arrogant and mistaken in his personal criticisms of Logicus's good faith contributions is incorrect or intolerable rather than simply true, and needs to be said.--Logicus (talk) 18:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Deor, from what I've seen, limits his comments to discussion of your edits, without extrapolating to negative personal comments. If Deor has also been engaging in personal attacks, please let me know where, as those would be equally as unacceptable as your own. In any case, please refrain from personal attacks (see Wikipedia:No personal attacks).--ragesoss (talk) 18:36, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but having re-read both the 'No personal attacks' reference you give and also the Wiki article on 'Personal attack', it is now unclear to me I have made any personal attack on Deor in that text in which you claim I do, rather than just 'limiting my comments to discussion of his edits and comments' such as "Deor's latest arrogant imperious mistaken comments". Nor do I substitute these pejorative descriptions of his comments for rational objective criticism of them to substantiate these descriptions, unlike the Wikipedia definition of Personal attack ["...a personal attack is committed when a person substitutes abusive remarks for evidence when examining another person's claims or comments."], since I always give objective evidence of my criticism. So perhaps you would be kind enough to enlighten me by explaining where exactly, if anywhere, you think I have made a personal attack on Deor, and why it constitutes such on Wikipedia rules. It seems such clarificatory guidance on what constitutes personal attack is required before I can possibly comply with your request to let you know where Deor has made personal attacks, if anywhere.--Logicus (talk) 16:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Logicus would be most grateful if you would kindly either substantiate your hitherto unsubstantiated allegation that Logicus has made personal attacks on Deor, as Wiki defined, by identifying any such attacks in the text you cite as containing such, or else retract your allegation as void. Hopefully such might also help clarify Wikipedia policy for Logicus’s future reference and guidance in the otherwise lawless Wikipedia epistemic American Wild West (-:
 * --Logicus (talk) 17:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

new category
Thought you may be interested - I made Category:Plants used in bonsai Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Featured sound candidates/Etherea
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AfD nomination of Jessica King
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FYI
This may be of interest to you. Featured_article_candidates/History_of_evolutionary_thought Shyamal (talk) 06:58, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Meadow Pipit
Hi, I noticed you had opposed my picture of a Meadow Pipit on the Featured picture candidate page. A new edit has just been posted, less noisy etc, which I wondered if you might like to take a look at, and see if you like it a bit better.-- Seahamlass  18:42, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Meadow pipit
Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 00:34, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Would you take another look, please? I'm willing to work on the image, it would be a shame for it not to live up to its potential just because I don't know what your concern is, and I can't read your mind, I'm sorry. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 18:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, thanks for clarifying. Papa Lima Whiskey (talk) 06:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

History of evolutionary thought FAC
History of evolutionary thought is going through FAC at the moment and I was wondering if you would care to express an opinion as you have been interested in this article in the past. Rusty Cashman (talk) 01:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for standard infobox for History of [country] templates
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Guide to referencing
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Out of nowhere
No, nothing terrible. I noticed your ref added to Art Renewal Center and it seemed you weren't fully familiar with formatting a ref. It always looks better when it's done properly. There's some info in the guide above about formatting. I have tweaked the ref. Date format is according to personal preference (or what exists for other refs in the same article). "Retrieved" seems to be the term of choice now.  Ty  22:17, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. OK. Let me encourage you to apply your skills more widely! Actually, checking your contribs, I realise I had muddled you up with another (new) editor, or I wouldn't have left the ref guide. Apologies for that.  Ty  22:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

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Requests for arbitration/Pseudoscience
The Arbitration Committee has rendered decisions passing a motion to apply discretionary sanctions remedies to the case linked above. Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict ("articles which relate to pseudoscience, broadly interpreted") if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process.

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I think you deleted Gary Bryan's entry-he was just talking about it on the show this morning and I think he should still have an entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abw14721 (talk • contribs) 21:19, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Eugene V. Debs
I've moved the discussion and the GA review to the dedicated subpage here, and I've completed your requests. Mastrchf (t/c) 23:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. Have a great day, Mastrchf (t/c) 01:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Just a liddell bit mo' respect please ?
Referring to my most reasonable request to you here of 13 July above that you either substantiate, for my edification, or else withdraw your charge that I have made a Wiki Personal Attack on Deor, and to my further repeat of this request @ Template talk:Classical mechanics, I note you have now made the following comment at that location on 29 July:

"As for personal attacks, I'm choosing to ignore that for now, since I find those kinds of disputes extremely unpleasant. Please, just try to treat other editors with a little more respect.--ragesoss (talk) 14:14, 29 July 2008 (UTC)"

(i) In the first instance if you find such disputes so unpleasant, then may I respectfully suggest that in future you should think things through just a little more carefully before you indulge in your long standing habit of making unsubstantiated cavalier accusations against me ? (ii) But yet again here you imply I have treated other editors with insufficient respect.

So would you please now kindly identify which editors you claim I have treated with insufficient respect, or else also withdraw that implication. I do not wish to deny this is possible. But without naming such your advice is completely impractical and empty as well as insulting. --Logicus (talk) 18:38, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Gary Bryan
I tried to work on teh Gary Bryan article and it looks like someone else went in and helped! I am new to wikipedia. Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abw14721 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Stephen Cook photos
Yes, he's the webmaster at my gliding club, the Cotswold GC. I would be happy to let you have further details if you could explain why you need them.--NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 08:42, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I read your message before looking at the GA FAC page! Stephen Cook has given me written permission to use these photos on WP in accordance with the GFDL. All the best. --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 08:48, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅, as mentioned on my talk page. Cheers.--NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 20:50, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Hockney/Falco Thesis
On the off chance that you're not watchlisting a page you contribute to frequently and have submitted to GAN, I have provided a second opinion on the Hockney-Falco thesis. It's available on the GA review page. I welcome any comment or criticism you are willing to forward. Thanks. Protonk (talk) 19:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Along the River During the Qingming Festival.
Hello, I just want to let you know that I uploaded a higher-quality version of the same picture and I was wondering if you would reconsider changing your vote from weak support to support? Thanks. Daniel Chiswick (talk) 20:25, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay then, thanks for the support anyway. Daniel Chiswick (talk) 20:40, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

FAC comments for GA in the UK
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Deletion review for All Stars (video game)
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Darkness Within: The Dark Lineage
May i know who added the deletion tag in that article?. The game is confirmed here is the link to confirm the existence. Could you restore the article?. --SkyWalker (talk) 05:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I could not find press release anywhere but i could find trailers. Is that notable enough?. As far i know the game is officially announced. --SkyWalker (talk) 07:12, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, Even the official site only has trailers nothing but trailer. I think they will give full details in coming week perhaps. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Logicus
Dear Ragesoss: If I understand correctly, Logicus would appreciate finding out from you which specific parts of this post you consider to be personal attacks. See User talk:Logicus. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 18:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Science driver
The article is currently up for AFD. Since you removed the PROD tag, I thought you might be interested in the discussion. Cheers --Patrick (talk) 07:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

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Screencorder
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More Palin
Hey, ragesoss, I hope you're doing well. Thanks for the link at YoungTrigg's user page, to the NY Times article. That reporter did a very good job, I think.Ferrylodge (talk) 02:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

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